Charas-Project
Off-Topic => Archive => Old Game Discussion => Topic started by: Vlad Shadeu on August 08, 2007, 11:48:49 PM
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if anyone here is interested in learing Gamemaker, i am attempting to make a game similar to SSB. this has not gone too well, mainly because i am an idiot. i have sprites, ideas, and plans for design. i need GM coder people and meebe some spriters to make some of the other stuff i need.
i plan to make some charas members into characters in said fighting platformer if they want, mainly to fill empty space on the rewards list.the only character releases for this game i might never create will be hidden in riddles below.remember, i doubt this will actually be made unless i get help soon.
meanwhile, here is some riddles to learn some of the few characters i am considering.(each hint is a seperate character)
1. Adam West: tell the ____ that he won't get my pizza today! (fill in the blank)Depuzzled by Razor~~ The Noid
2. He wasn't only in Wario Land, you know. in fact, he used to have his OWN series of games
3. Fat, Strong, and obbssesed with gold. Depuzzled by coasterkrazy~~~ Wario
4. blue hair, strong magic, and a will to win (you ain't NEVER gonna get this one, only i've heard of him)Answer given away~~ Vladimir Lorenzo Shadeu
5. Gun's aren't the only thing that Squaresoft turned into blade combinations, you know.Depuzzled by coasterkrazy~~~ Sora
6. Baby... electric pokemon... both have been used. but let's find another pokemon that fits the bill
Depuzzled by coasterkrazy~~~ Elekid
7. ____, i am your father! (fill in the oh-so-obvious blank)Depuzzled by coasterkrazy~~ Luke Skywalker
8. Gum? more like taffytaffy to me. Answer given away~~ Monkey D. Luffy
2nd array of hints:
9. man this guy has got defence! shock absorbent, water absorbent, ice absorbent, he can absorb it all!
10.it wasn't planes that killed him... it was you!Depuzzled by Grandy~~ King Kong
11. who could ever love that nine-tailed demon freak! she can.Depuzzled by Grandy~~ Hinata
12. pink is not her color.... sasuke is. (yes i am planning 2 Naruto reps)
13. and the spider hath divided into two, and then into three, and the spider was blue and red, and his creations where either blue or red. I LIKEY DA BLUE GUY!
14. smarter than the average bear, but why is he fighting?Depuzzled by Grandy~~ Yogi!
15. a hedgehog, an echidnia, and... A BAT? (this fighter is the last one)Depuzzled by Grandy~~ Rouge the bat
16.they used to fight, but then pills would kill them. they are back and now pill-resistant (the first squadrant character)Depuzzled by Shady Ultima~~The Virus Squad (Weird, Fever, and Chill)
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Oh, riddles. Fun. Let's see how many I can get.
3. Wario
5. Sora
6. Elekid
That's all I know off the bat. :p
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good, good.
so lemme guess, everyone else just blew this topic off without ever reading it?
btw, i simplified a hint
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as i said, i might not make the game /add all of these, but these are the ones i am considering. MORE HINTS!remember though, not all will be added
10.it wasn't planes that killed him... it was you!
11. who could ever love that nine-tailed demon freak! she can.
12. pink is not her color.... sasuke is. (yes i am planning 2 Naruto reps)
13. and the spider hath divided into two, and then into three, and the spider was blue and red, and his creations where either blue or red. I LIKEY DA BLUE GUY!
14. smarter than the average bear, but why is he fighting?
15. a hedgehog, an echidnia, and... A BAT? (this fighter is the last one)
16.they used to fight, but then pills would kill them. they are back and now pill-resistant (the first squadrant character)
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Let's see...
I spy Kagome, Rouge, Sakura....
You seem to target things I hate. Inu Yasha, Naruto, late Sonic games, Kingdom Hearts, Star Wars.... *dies*
I dunno. I was talking with some folks at gamingw about an SSB type game. It seems hard. How experienced are you, anyway?
EDIT: I mixed up my demons. Thank God, no Inu Yasha. The world needs no more of that, so apologies muchly.
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who in god's name is Kagome?
btw, i am taking requests if i can find a sprite
also, to answer and have me put it up there you gotta put the number next to it.
i know how the basis of fighting physics work. i think i can do it. i think i will have the most trouble with menus, actually. as i said, i need help. but i might be able to wing it alone. i dunno.
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if any 1 person can get 5 unanswered riddles correct i will reveal some of the characters and backgrounds that aren't ripped from anywhere!
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The first one is the Noid, methinks
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the noid is correct.
so, anyone wanna learn gamemaker? anyone wanna help? anyone wanna submit character sprites?anyone have requests for characters? anyone think i'm asking too many questions? anyone?
EDITED IN PART: here are some i would really like a sprite sheet and permission from to add in to the game, if they would like:
Pharye
Grandy
Warxe
Meiscool
guys, PLEASE HELP ME. I REALLY NEED SUPPORT
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Before I say anything else, 7 is Luke. :p
*Sigh*
Vlad Shadeu
guys, PLEASE HELP ME. I REALLY NEED SUPPORT
Since it seems no one else feels like wasting his or her breath, I'll say it, even though I haven't been extremely active in a long time now.
I'm going to make this short and simple. This will probably seem harsh, but I figure I'll just be painfully honest. You will get little to no response from this game. The way it looks, it looks like the hundreds and hundreds of other threads saying "I'm making this game" that have nothing but ideas up in the air and die out within a couple months at the latest. My suggestion to you (and to all people who do this sort of thing really) would be to do something first, and then be able to show people that you are really serious. If they see that, they may or may not be interested in pitching in a bit to help you.
As it is, you have everything against you making this thread. Let me make a short list:
1) You have not shown us anything.
2) You have brought nothing to the table in terms of new ideas.
3) No one here even knows who you are.
And finally, last but certainly not least, if other people make your game, then it isn't your game. Games are hard to take on alone. Trust me, I've tried before, and it has never worked. It is especially impossible if you plan on doing extremely difficult custom things (such as programming this system).
My final advice: plan before you jump in. The first question to ask yourself is always "Is this realistic?"
If you think I'm being mean, then I'm sorry, but if you took the time to look at many threads in the games forum, you'd see that people get much worse (i.e. flamed) and many times don't even get an explanation at all because people are tired of wasting their time explaining.
My guess is this will be dead within a certain amount of time, like all the others. I challenge you to prove me wrong.
EDIT: Just noticed this isn't even in the games forum. Wrong forum then, unless the central focus was the riddles, in which case I think the forum gaming forum would be better. Whatever, though, I don't want to be accused of MINI-MODDING OMG. I hate that term with a passion...
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Yeah, I'd really like to see some examples of your coding et cetera before I make a sprite. Ideas are great, but you don't seem to have any definite plans.
Is this your first gamemaker project? Have you used any other engines (RPG maker et cetera)? What kind of experience do you have with this stuff?
People would be more likely to help if they saw more thought. I'm trying to be supportive, but all I'm seeing is begging for help.
Try:
-posting some sprites you've done
-showing us an idea of how you plan on coding this
-posting a definite list of characters (not counting charas folks who haven't agreed
-maybe some concept screens
Most games that people pay attention to around here have at least some of this stuff. Remember, this is still your project.
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thanks for critiqueing it.
the sprites used in this test level are from digscape, the initial level in adventure mode. this simply contains wario and lance, and neiter of them do damage (yet). lance is controllable with the arrow keys and i didn't program any attacks, mainly because he will only have 1 in the finished game. wario is controlled with WASD, and he can bash using the Z key, although, as i said, i didn't import damage for now.
if you are wondering why there is no definete char list, that is because i think it'll always change, and besides, i need input on what to put.
A teensy little demo (http://www.mediafire.com/upload_complete.php?id=v0tvymswymv)
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XD is 8 Gumby?
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I'll try the demo later. Right now, I need a shower.
A suggestion? Maybe add some folks who haven't been in fighters. I know Wario's in the new SSB, and there are a bunch of Naruto fighters. It'll take work on the edits, but what if you took characters from your favorite anime games who would be fun to play as? I mean, imagine the main character of your favorite novel facing off against a minor but fun character in some anime you love?
EDIT: I don;t know much about gamemaker, am willing to learn, but this seems.... odd. At least it's something, I'll give you that. Rather glitchy, with the way the sprite faces, and he just seems to glide.... admittedly, jumping up and down was more fun than it should have been. Oh, and watching Wario charge hopelessly into a wall.... ^^
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I think it'd be pretty sick if you could play as/fight the Kool-Aid Man. OH YEAH!!!
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ok. i have input. now, all i need is sprites and help. oh yeah, and more input. but still, submit sprites, and offer help. PLEASE!
8 is not gumby.
free giveaway!
8 is Monkey D. Luffy!
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Originally posted by Phayre
I'll try the demo later. Right now, I need a shower.
A suggestion? Maybe add some folks who haven't been in fighters. I know Wario's in the new SSB, and there are a bunch of Naruto fighters. It'll take work on the edits, but what if you took characters from your favorite anime games who would be fun to play as? I mean, imagine the main character of your favorite novel facing off against a minor but fun character in some anime you love?
EDIT: I don;t know much about gamemaker, am willing to learn, but this seems.... odd. At least it's something, I'll give you that. Rather glitchy, with the way the sprite faces, and he just seems to glide.... admittedly, jumping up and down was more fun than it should have been. Oh, and watching Wario charge hopelessly into a wall.... ^^
Your suggestion: I DO HAVE NON-FIGHTERS! really, i'm laughing, not angry, and i will even give you thier riddle numbers:
4,6,10,14, and 16 have never appeared in a fighting type game. well, kinda for 10, but not really
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I wasn't saying you didn't. I was just saying that if I really wanted to have two Naruto characters beat the snot out of each other, I'd grab one of the Naruto fighters. That kinda think. Of course, if I wanted to see Sakura kick Wario in the face.... that'd be different. ;)
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are you on the team? i'd really like to have you. i will even send you the link to the gamemaker tutorials I used to learn this darn thing in the first place.
This is the gamemaker download, and somewhere on here is the tutorials (http://www.yoyogames.com/make/)
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10.it wasn't planes that killed him... it was you!
...King Kong?
11. who could ever love that nine-tailed demon freak! she can.
...Hinata?
Originally posted by Vlad Shadeu
14. smarter than the average bear, but why is he fighting?
...Yogi Bear?
15. a hedgehog, an echidnia, and... A BAT? (this fighter is the last one)
...Rouge?
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Originally posted by Vlad Shadeu
10.it wasn't planes that killed him... it was you!
14. smarter than the average bear, but why is he fighting?
15. a hedgehog, an echidnia, and... A BAT? (this fighter is the last one)
10 - King Kong i think...
14 - Yogi!
15 - Rouge
Dammit. I should have read and saw that Grandy already guess them...
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...I'm still cautious about joining the team, I guess. My strong suit is story, not coding, and I'm in the middle of looking for a full time job. I'll give you a couple sprites I have, but other than that, for now, I'll just give suggestions if that's okay.
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Grandy/Shady got them all correct. the answers where credited to the first poster. would anyone be interested in joining? want me to prove that i can make something more? i'll do either. Given away answer: this one was actually kind of obvious. it's ME! if i can find a jumping pose for my person on the RTP (default name Klaus) then i will be in it. as i said only I know who this guy is.
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So... am I the only one wondering how this got to 2 pages with him actually not telling anything about the game?
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Originally posted by ZeroKirbyX
So... am I the only one wondering how this got to 2 pages with him actually not telling anything about the game?
i'm just like that.
actually, i gave away a bit of the character list, the basic concept, and a small demo. how is that nothing about the game?
to everyone else: c'mon, guys. just slow #13 down a little and you'll get it. but 3 is a toughy. he was in SSB, but everyone hated him.
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Giving clues and making people guess isn't giving away a character list. You act as if its not common action to tell people about the characters before you give them the game.
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2 could be Dr. Mario :
Erm... 13 might be spiderman... but I don't think so...
16 is either Fever, Chill or Weird from Dr. Mario, but since I'm not even sure what squadrant means... I'm not sure which one it is.
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Originally posted by ZeroKirbyX
Giving clues and making people guess isn't giving away a character list. You act as if its not common action to tell people about the characters before you give them the game.
i said A BIT of the character list.
geez, where is your sense of fun? riddles rock, man.
Originally posted by Shady Ultima
2 could be Dr. Mario :
Erm... 13 might be spiderman... but I don't think so...
16 is either Fever, Chill or Weird from Dr. Mario, but since I'm not even sure what squadrant means... I'm not sure which one it is.
2 could never be Dr. mario. he was never in wario land.
13 guess... hmmm.. but then it divided into two? now, what 2 things did spidey create that share all or part of his coloration?
16 squadrant=group. it is technically all three. the game will call them the virus squad, if i add them, and they will change off from either getting hit or it will be one of their commands (i'm not sure which)they will each have semi-unique attacks. this'll be fun to play but hard to master
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first party stuff:
here is some purely original stuff i am planning. this is not official until i have enough info and stuff at hand (like everything else)but here is some new stuff this game will bring to the table as far as characters/stages:
Lance:
this guy is found in the mini demo. he is the ONLY character you start out with, and he is quite pathetic. Bio as a summary: memory is lost. stuck in virtual world. attempt to exit, then regain memory.abilities: strike: a basic attack
Vladimir Lorezo Shadeu
this will be interesting. he is quite strong, and hard to unlock. Bio summary: the strongest mage in his realm blah blah blah abilities:magics of various sorts. final powers undetermined.
Arc:
pure black and white. he is going to be the final character in the nil pit level in adventure mode, i think. he seems like the basic nil fighter, but looks quite differentBio summary: a strange being from the colorless World Of Nil. seeks to find a cure for a disease infesting his mother. abilities: meelee of various sorts. final powers undetermined.
Red the Fuzzi:
this cute lil' guy is a Fuzzi, a small race of cute little fluff balls. this particular one is granted a rare FuzzSkill called Fuzzglow. he is basic, and i think he'll be fun to create Bio summary: fights to have fun, and has fun fighting. abilities: Fuzzglow: causes the user to glow and emit damage to all who touch him, a very effective defence FuzzStatic: emits electric rays. you see, all Fuzzis have unnatural static cling which they use to grab objects. this implements that in a different way he also has a basic strike, filling the basic three buttons.i'm gonna post this guy's lousy lil' sprite sheet.
Matter Rearranger:
a superhero who can do basically anything. his main attacks consist of 1 throwing and 1 slash. the other button allows him to go into Blaster Rearranger mode, which grants him 2 beam attacks and, of course, the power to change back. really need sprites for him and his form, i'll send a pic in the next attachment
New stages:
Cyberspace:
lance's stage. very ummm... spacey!
Nil Pit:
Arc's stage. it's pure black and white, and occasionally may have Gumera or Helnet viruses floating around to damage random people
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does anyone wanna do the sprites for Matter/Blaster Rearranger? i'll post his sprite sheet below. he needs throwing, slashing a red energy sword, and jumping and walking and some fancy transform animation for Matter, and a beam shot and rapid spin, along with walking and jumping for blaster
matter is the red and white one
blaster is the blue and yellow one
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Erm, did I not figure out the dr. mario viruses? you put coasterkrazy lol
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Riddles rock, maybe, but not in your game thread. And no offense, but many of your riddles out-and-out suck. Just post the chars, and screens of the demo you gave me, so people will give a crap, maybe. Don't count on it, though. ^^
Oh, and "fighter" is a genre, not a concept. What kind of stages you planning? Any story mode? Are they in some tournament for the ultimate cheescake or something? I would totally fight for cheesecake.
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Originally posted by Phayre
Riddles rock, maybe, but not in your game thread. And no offense, but many of your riddles out-and-out suck. Just post the chars, and screens of the demo you gave me, so people will give a crap, maybe. Don't count on it, though. ^^
Oh, and "fighter" is a genre, not a concept. What kind of stages you planning? Any story mode? Are they in some tournament for the ultimate cheescake or something? I would totally fight for cheesecake.
but i lub the little riddles. deyso cute. but anyway, yeah. by concept, i mean the base concept of SSB, that's what the general understanding is.there will be a story mode, but i'm not sure about the story XD. but yeah, i need a reason for them to fight. yeah.
some levels i am considering...
Spooner St.
the family guy level. i will only include this if i can find a FG fighter.
Planet surface:
the metriod level. i am highly likely to inculde samus, and her level will be a basic planet surface with a spacey BG
Fight Pit:
will be modified from the KSS wrestling ring. you first see this stage in a mode of it's own,Fight Pit mode, where you fight loads upon loads of enemies to see how many you can kill before croaking yourself.you can unlock characters in this mode by hitting a certain kill level (i.e. 100 kills= the noid)'
the game will also feature a mario level of some sort.
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Originally posted by Shady Ultima
Erm, did I not figure out the dr. mario viruses? you put coasterkrazy lol
sorry, fixed
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This game will officially fail.
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you don't know anything.
heck, for all you can easily prove, i could've finished it already.
all i really need is some people who want to help.
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You still haven't given us much.
So, no offense, but I'm leaning towards ZKX's side here.
If you're staring a game counting on people to do stuff for you, you're getting off on the wrong foot. Many people ask for help, but it's after they've presented a solid idea. So far, all we know is "it's a fighter" and a few people maybe in the game. Yeah, you have that funny little demo, but no one but me has seen it, and you don't even have any concept screens or solid plans.
Especially with more complicated games, you need to stop and think, get all your ideas squared away, before starting anything. If you can't edit a Family Guy sprite from a gameboy game or something, you shouldn't be doing this. In fact, if you're not a good spriter, you shouldn't be doing a fighter, because otherwise it'll be a shoddy rehash of other fighters.
Get your characters together, drop the gimmicks, give us some substance, and show us what you've done. Why not post some sprites you've gathered? If you're having problems with story, contact Team Storyline or something. *points to sig*
Hard as it is to take someone who believes a character in the RTP is an ebil clone or something, it's even harder to take you seriously when you present such an ambitious project and then, instead of showing much of any work, ask people to do stuff.
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fine, i surrender. i got better stuff to do.
what i offered to build wouldn't be good if i did it alone, and not a soul wishes to help.
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*slaps forehead*
*head thunks onto computer desk*
Go have fun, then.
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you brought it apon yourself, Pharye.
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besides, the only real reason i am giving up on it is because no one cares. not a single person said they would play it or that they would be interested or anything.
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Wow... already. That was fast. I gave you nice advice and you didn't care to listen to a word I said. Meh. Funny though, how EVERY SINGLE ONE of my predictions came true not within a month or two, but a FEW DAYS.
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Alright, you quit then. Just some advice, when you plan on making a game, don't expect everyone else to throw themselves into the project because you have some "potentially fantastic" idea. It doesn't work that way; in fact, even if you would have had a small portion of the game done, there's still a strong chance that nobody would have wanted to help you. It's not because people are mean or don't care, it's because everyone has their own stuff to do that's more important to them. When you have an idea that you want to perfect into reality, then you have to do it; you can't expect people to do things for you. As a maker, you have to be dedicated to your project as a whole. If you come off like someone who's just "doing this for the heck of it," rather than somebody who truly wants to make this (and has shown so through many examples of his/her work, including a full-fledged working demo); then people will feel that they're going to waste their time if they were to help you.
All in all, if you want to do something, but it requires the assistance of others; then you're not capable of doing it and therefore should try something at your level, and broaden your skills until you do have the ability to do so yourself.
Just think about that, and take in what you will. It's not something to be responded too, as I'm locking this thread now because it hardly includes the basic structure of a project thread anyway; and, you've quit.
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