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Off-Topic => All of all! => Topic started by: Djanki on November 01, 2007, 06:14:41 PM
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For the past couple of days, I've looked through gaming magazines...and...nothing's caught my attention.
Lair, Blue Dragon, Eternal Sonata, Final Fantasy: Revenant Wings...they just don't catch my eye as much as games like Riviera: The Promised Land or Persona 3 did when I first heard about them. The majority of the games I'm interested in are old ones that I haven't played: Radiata Stories, Growlanser Generations, Xenosaga 1 and 3 (no 2--never 2), SRT: Original Generation....
...am I just getting old?
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yup.
getting old is what turned me on to RPGmakers...
I was sick of fancy over graphik'd games...
I havent played anything past FF9 all the way through. Ive tried, I just lose intrest.
Less is more perhaps.
Getting old is not a bad thing.
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If this helps, there's a Riviera remake on the PSP. You also might be interested in Cry On for the 360.
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Aye, me too. I'm really not that bothered about playing games. I just wanna get out there and make them professionally.
It says something when I actually prefer watching my brothers play videogames to playing them myself... Having said that I've been playing the GBA fire emblem through again on hard. Now there's a game worthy of my free time.
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It's not just you or getting old or anything. Those games just really do look crappy.
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I agree with Sai. Its all ****.
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the DS in general Rekindled my videogame lust.
Then came the wii.
want a fun game? Freakin Phantom Hourglass
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Also, Radiata Stories isn't very good, I regret buying it when it came out. (Very Shallow Battle system, decent character system, poor story and music is BLEH.)
Don't feel bad, I very seldom buy games lately, The only ones that have be jumping for joy that I don't already have are Galaxy, Brawl and the New Animal Crossing, beyond that, I could **** more entertaining sounding games.
Also Cliffs of Dover.
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Revenant Wings, Guitar Hero 3, Rock Band, Brawl, Super Mario Galaxy, Blue Dragon, Soul Calibur Legends (Lloyd Irving as a playable character!), GTA 4, Ninja Gaiden 2, etc etc.
There's plenty to be happy about. :P
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I agree woth Osmose, youŽ're just a sad person. These games are awesome. Also, play those games you mentioned, they're really worth your time.
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Well, I'd have to get a 360 for that, first....and cash is short.
Another thing that annoys me: too many f***ing FPS's.
Still, thanks for your support. I'm sure that once Microsoft, Sony, and Nintendo get over their "We must get a head start on the Console War NAO!!" phase, great and amusing J-RPGs and cult hits will come and drive my weaboo senses into a anime-fueled fury.
Until then, P3 for the win. ^_^
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I just think that some game genres are going way down in quality. Like I kept trying to play through FF12, but I couldn't ever do it... I haven't really seen an rpg that I could actually play through anymore. The older ones just are way better. Even with action rpg games like oblivion, I think it's earlier game (morrowind) was a lot better.
Besides rpgs though, I think games are getting better. FPS games now are just unbelievable. Grand Turismo 5 looks sweet, when I was looking at the screenshots, I couldn't tell if it was a game or not... Twilight Princess was also a great game (for a legend of zelda game). So while rpgs are dying out, other games are taking thier place. So if your an rpg fan, you're a dying bread.
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...I cannot think of a single complaint I have ever had about Oblivion that didn't have a mod that fixed it.
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To Dragonblaze, you're forgetting about Mistwalker. All of the guys who did the Square RPGs of the late nineties are now with that company. Hell almost all of the FF7 team is working on Lost Odyssey. Since Mistwalker is a design company who can pay others to code, it's guaranteed to put out a ****load of good RPGs.
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Originally posted by Osmose
...I cannot think of a single complaint I have ever had about Oblivion that didn't have a mod that fixed it.
Don't get me wrong here, I think Oblvion is a good game, I've been playing it a lot recently actually. I just think that its predicesor morrowind was better, and a lot of people I talked to thought that. First off, Morrowind was huge, it was bigger and it didn't have any boundries (except natural ones like the ocean). The characters also had a lot more "parts". Like in morrowind, you could customize your armor to have diffearnt shoulder plates, and there was a neck slot that oblivion took out, the neck slot was cool for things like masks, glasses, ect, and it worked good for custom races with wings. You could also wear robes and such over armor in morrowind. Oblvion also took out 'levitation' and as far as I know, it can't be modded well into Oblvion due to the enemy AI pathfinding system. The rest of the stuff in oblvion that I dont like can be modded. I think Oblvion is a sweet game, but I thought its earlier version was a lot better...
I haven't really heard of Mistwalker at all, I'll have to take a look at it.
I don't claim to be an expert at games or anything, but it just seems to me that the rpg genre of games just isn't what it used to be, while other genres are getting better by the looks of it. Graphics may be a part of it, but I don't think companies are neglecting the stories for the graphics. Better graphics means more time working on the graphics, which in turn leads to a higher percent of the budget going to graphics. Also, I think 'crapier' graphics allows for a better feel to the story/game itself. Really, if you think about it, some lines that sound perfectly fine reading in a game sound completely corny when said out loud, even with a good voice actor. Also the poses of crapier graphics can't be mimicced with better graphics. Take an old 2d character where the character's eyes pop out of their heads and their arms flail in the air. That pose seems perfectly fine in these games, but with better graphics, its hard to really get the same feel. Even in final fantasy 7, 8, and 9 before the 'facial expressions' came out, a pose like clouds 'shoulder shrug' had a lot more feel than a 'good graphic' character with the same pose.
Personally, I think that the older graphics/stlye make the game better just by their natural feel.
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After consulting with Ventus (Closest thing to a modding community expert for Oblivion I know), all of those can and have been solved by mods except for the clothing + armor part, which can halfway be solved by either setting the equipment you want hidden as rings (With enchantment bonuses to match the status gains from armor, although there's all sorts of effects from armor which can't be replicated with enchantments) or just going into Nifskope and merge the robe model with the armor model that you want to use, although that requires knowledge of armor.
Also,
Originally IMed by Ventus
Oh, also, as for Morrowind being larger than Cyrodiil, that's only because the fog made sure you couldn't see very far, and you ran like a sick mudcrab so you didn't get anywhere fast.
Because I'm a bastard, here's a video of Morrowind without the fog (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iwkEall_uoY).
Just saying. :P
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Holy hell, Morrowind really is a lot smaller than I remember it being.
Yeah, I've almost NEVER... Not... Used Fast travel in Oblivion. Morrowind just seems so much larger because of the aformented fog, as well as the lack of a fast travel feature.
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Playing FF12, loving it. Waiting for Brawl. Everything else doesn't bother me if I don't play.. oh, Singster for PS3 will be cool (I mean, downloading all those new songs). g
I honestly can't be fucked with games these days.
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Oblivion may have more landmass, but most of it is just dead space. Nearly everyone whos played morrowind says it seems much larger than Oblvions. Just quick looking at my maps, oblivion only has 8 cities (not counting kvatch), morrowind has around 18. Oblivions landscape is nearly all the same, forested grasslands with rivers. Morrowinds is way more diverse, you have deserts (kinda), dense forests, mountains, and mushroom thingies... Not only that, the forests in morrowind vary from place to place. There were natural boundries in morrowind as well that prevented you from just crossing the whole map in a stright line. In order to get from point A to point B, you had to go around point C and through point D, ect. There was a big discussion on this topic on the elder scrolls source forums a little while after oblivion was released saying how morrowind was just more vast.
I own both games with all the expansions, and I play both of them a lot (currently working on oblivion). I've put more hours into morrowind than oblvion, and I've been all over oblivion many times, yet there are still places I haven't been in morrowind.
Morrowind has better atmosphere. It has variety in cultures and locales. It has a stronger main plot. It has a better magic system. It has better characters and quests. It has better expansions. A better arch-villain. Basically , everything but the melee combat and graphics were better in Morrowind.
Sure, you can download mods to add more content to oblivion, you can also download mods to make oblvion more diverse, there are even mods to make more landmasses, but if you want to discuss mods here, morrowind has more mods than oblvion, so a modded morrowind could still be bigger than a modded oblvion.
Yes, oblvion can be modded so that it fixes flaws to be more like morrowind, but you can't say oblvion is better than morrowind since oblivion can be modded to be more like morrowind.
In short, unmodded morrowind > unmodded oblvion.
unmodded morrowind <= modded oblvion.
modded morrowind > modded oblvion.
oblvion = great game.
morrowind = great game
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Originally posted by DragonBlaze
unmodded morrowind > modded oblvion.
unmodded morrowind <= modded oblvion.
These are exactly the same.
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Originally posted by Razor
Originally posted by DragonBlaze
unmodded morrowind > modded oblvion.
unmodded morrowind <= modded oblvion.
These are exactly the same.[/B]
Err, my bad, spelling error, i think...
I love oblivion, I just think morrowind was set up better...
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I'm too lazy to make a big reply, but the summary would be that I disagree. *goes back to sleep before realizing he has a class in an hour*
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Ever played Digital Devil Saga? Those have the best literature I've ever seen since Xenogears. The characters are deep, the story is intriguing and heavy. It's conducted in a addictive way. Awesome games, both of them. Go for it, it's undeniable fun.
Also play the Xenosagas. Another universe full of references, theories and stuff. I'm just inlove with this kinda thing.
That's why I say: good RPG = Good story+good gameplay. Graphics are not needed at all.
Suikoden -> awesome story, awesome games.
Xenogears -> same
DDS -> same
Breath of Fire: Dragon Quarters: good graphics, bad story. Bad game.
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Originally posted by Almeidaboo
Ever played Digital Devil Saga? Those have the best literature I've ever seen since Xenogears. The characters are deep, the story is intriguing and heavy. It's conducted in a addictive way. Awesome games, both of them. Go for it, it's undeniable fun.
Also play the Xenosagas. Another universe full of references, theories and stuff. I'm just inlove with this kinda thing.
That's why I say: good RPG = Good story+good gameplay. Graphics are not needed at all.
Suikoden -> awesome story, awesome games.
Xenogears -> same
DDS -> same
Breath of Fire: Dragon Quarters: good graphics, bad story. Bad game.
You forgot Disgaea. How could you shame your fathers like that?
Disgaea: Hilarious story, challenging gameplay.
I've also been wanting to play Digital Devil Saga for ages...but, it's hard to find....
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Originally posted by Almeidaboo
Also [STRIKE]play[/STRIKE]watch the Xenosagas. Another universe full of references, theories and stuff. I'm just inlove with this kinda thing.
Fix'd XD
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Disgaea: challenging gameplay.
WHAT??? Where did you see a chalange in that?? That game seemed to be in the armless-baby difficulty!
Nah Sandwich man, don't give me that watch thing! There are lots of scenes and stuff, but they're worth as hell. All three if them.
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Originally posted by Almeidaboo
Disgaea: challenging gameplay.
WHAT??? Where did you see a chalange in that?? That game seemed to be in the armless-baby difficulty!
Nah Sandwich man, don't give me that watch thing! There are lots of scenes and stuff, but they're worth as hell. All three if them.[/B]
Almeidaboo: I dunno; for some reason, I always get my head handed to me on a silver platter in Disgaea...I just inherently suck at it, lol. But you can't deny that it's a funny game. ^_^
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Originally posted by Almeidaboo
Disgaea: challenging gameplay.
WHAT??? Where did you see a chalange in that?? That game seemed to be in the armless-baby difficulty!
Nah Sandwich man, don't give me that watch thing! There are lots of scenes and stuff, but they're worth as hell. All three if them.[/B]
Bailiff, please up all enemies to level BBQ please. Also, please kill all my monsters and reicarnate them as level 1 ninjas. Without armor. And set their names as "N1nj4", "Ninjew", "Ninjoe", "NinJohn Lennon", "Ninnin" or "Bob".
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I've felt the same way lately, partially due to the fact that I don't have any new console systems (only a DS, but I loves it so) and partially because I spend so much time imagining what would be nice to happen.
Phayre's twisted thought process:
Oh joy! Tales of Phantasia on the GBA! Tales of Destiny remade in Japan! Logic dictates that Namco will love Phayre and bring remade ToD AND ToD 2 to America..... somehow! And Phayre will squee!
Of course, Phayre's obscure obsessions sometimes get the best of her. But I looked through my brother's magazines and saw nothing but overcomplicated, uninteresting sludge.
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Well, if you like classics, they do are remaking Kirby Super Deluxe for the DS. It'll be called Kirby Ultra Deluxe, I think. I'm just sad because they aparently won't keep the classic SNES graphics.
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Do you mean Kirby Super Star Grandy?
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Originally posted by I Have a Sandwich
Do you mean Kirby Super Star Grandy?
That's the US name, isn't it? My old SNES cartridge was the japanese one, so I got used to that name. But yes, yes it is.
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Originally posted by Grandy
Originally posted by I Have a Sandwich
Do you mean Kirby Super Star Grandy?
That's the US name, isn't it? My old SNES cartridge was the japanese one, so I got used to that name. But yes, yes it is.[/B]
Yay, Kirby! It's been too long since the last good Kirby game ^_^
lol, NinJohn Lennon
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This happened to me last year.
It scared me.