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Off-Topic => All of all! => Topic started by: Linkforce on March 26, 2008, 04:09:40 AM

Title: Game Reviews
Post by: Linkforce on March 26, 2008, 04:09:40 AM
So there's this website I visit every once in a while called Gamespot.com.  I like the website because it gives me insightful information on upcoming games.  Not only that, it gives me reviews on games so I have a better idea as to what the game is about and how it plays, what it looks like, etc., etc.  

I think we could do this with the games on Charas.  What we could do is make a new section called "Reviews" or something.  There could be a section where people would post their games and a little info about them.  Then there would be someone designated to play the game first to see if it has enough length to be reviewed.  Then the actual reviewer will play the game and write a detailed and thought out review on the game.  We could have rules when someone is posting a game for review such as length, depth, information, how deep it is into the story, etc.

The review could be separated into these categories:

1. Story- What is the game about?  Plot, goal, etc.  Is it original, bland, done before, interesting, immersive, etc.

2. Graphics- How does the game look?  What kind of resources were used?  How were the maps, sprites used?

3. Characters- Were the characters interesting?  As interesting as styrofoam?  Were they thought out?  Any favorites?  Any that stand out?

4. Gameplay- Was it too hard?  Too easy?  Was it difficult to progress or did things flow gracefully and smartly.

5. Screens- Post some stills from the game and describe it to show the reader some cool/ appreciative scenes.

6. Anything else: What it has to offer, do you recommend it?  Is it one of your fav?  Etc.

I think if we did this people would be more inclined to show their work and continue to work on games.  We could even make it into a contest eventually where the highest rated game wins a prize.  Like a spriter or something like that.    Lol.  Well, if anything, I tried!!
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Post by: Djanki on March 26, 2008, 12:01:23 PM
I think that this idea could help Charas; Charas has a few reviewers, but it's a really unofficial thing.

I'm all for this idea! ^_^
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Post by: Dragonium on March 26, 2008, 05:39:21 PM
I agree with this idea, but the main problem with it is personal opinion. The reviewer might hate a good game. The reviewer might like a bad game. The whole competition thing would be a problem as well, since the reviews wouldn't really be reliable enough.

I mean Gamespot has that problem too. Not all (read: a worringly large number) of the reviews are... strange. Case in point, Monster Hunter Freedom 2 only scored a 5.0 or something? What?
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Post by: Archem on March 26, 2008, 05:51:15 PM
I'd be all for it. Remember my old game reviews? That shows that I care enough for the idea to take part in it myself if need be.
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Post by: Linkforce on March 26, 2008, 08:09:38 PM
Drag- Well we could have maybe 2-3 people review a game and then have like a head person read each review and submit the one that is the most opinionated.  That could also tie into the whole "contest" concept I mentioned.  

I think it's a pretty good idea!  I'd like to know what some of the Mods think.....

And Woo!  Archem agrees with ME!  lol
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Post by: Moosetroop11 on March 26, 2008, 08:19:51 PM
Not a bad idea. I take it demos would be reviewed? There's not enough complete games to really pull this off.
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Post by: Linkforce on March 26, 2008, 08:21:53 PM
Yeah demos definitely.  Otherwise there would be like 3 reviews.  Haha
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Post by: Ben on March 26, 2008, 08:27:43 PM
Game reviews are good. If A good game gets a bad review, whatever, thats the pergoative of the reviewer.
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Post by: aboutasoandthis on March 26, 2008, 09:19:14 PM
I've never liked Story, Graphics, etc. sections in reviews. It excludes games that are more in the minigame or artsy category. You might also get the people who take certain sections too far.

If we had this idea, I'd rather see it done like in Famitsu, 4 scores on a scale of 1 - 10 (40 Total) with three or four sentences explaining why. I think this would be easier to write.

Here's the one for Super Smash Bros. Brawl:

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Nintendo
January 24, 2008 Sale Date \ 6,800 (sales tax inc.)
Variety Fighter/ Action
You can control tons of characters like Mario and Snake. Up to four players can battle at once. Cooperative mode is added in. Online battles are also possible.
Target Players: Anyone can enjoy this one
Average Play time: That depends on how you play this game

This time single player has tons of content. The adventure mode is quite long and fun. And the story presentation is amazing. As for the fights, with the strong unpredictable factor that comes with final smashes, more than ever we can be excited about matches not being related to skill. The controls and sound are also satisfying. Hats off to Nintendo.
Score: 10

The new unpredictable factor that is the final smash allows us to enjoy an amazing effect and refreshing feel from any character. The fights are even more intense. The single player modes are abundant and a plus. The Subspace Emissary Adventure mode movie and action tempo are good and you just forget time while playing. Im highly satisfied with the game.
Score: 10

The powerhouse cast and gimmicks! The dynamic and subtle character moves! The must see final smashes! There are tons of battle stages. The single player mode is also extremely satisfying. There is a stage edit, and you can browse through the detailed information in the game.
Score 10

The moves of the the all star roster of characters have been polished, and the addicting one player mode has been perfected. With its outstanding graphics and wonderful ambience, Brawl is an epic game in which you can feel the efforts that went into it. Every time you play it, you’ll discover something new, and you’ll savor both sweet joy and bitter loss when you battle.
Score: 10
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Post by: Linkforce on March 27, 2008, 04:10:51 AM
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Originally posted by aboutasoandthis
I've never liked Story, Graphics, etc. sections in reviews. It excludes games that are more in the minigame or artsy category.
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How can you exclude Story??  Whats the point of the game then?  Whats the point in reviewing if you cant talk about the story.
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Post by: aboutasoandthis on March 28, 2008, 03:02:49 AM
Are you high? :p  I never said not to talk about the story. I said I don't like sections.

If you want to talk about the story DO IT! All the better. I just think that a paragraph a person would be really easy to write. Plus it makes a game look good to get a 10s from 4 different people instead of just one.
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Post by: Linkforce on March 28, 2008, 03:47:43 AM
Lol, oh ok gotcha.

So.....I wonder if any of the MODS want to put this INTO WORK.

HINT HINT  *WINK*
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Post by: Ace of Spades on March 28, 2008, 05:17:38 AM
tl, dr
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Post by: Linkforce on March 28, 2008, 05:32:10 AM
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tl, dr


Say what now?
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Post by: FFL2and3rocks on March 28, 2008, 07:00:11 AM
It means "too long; didn't read."
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Post by: Linkforce on March 28, 2008, 04:45:39 PM
Oh....well you're an *** Ace!  If you won't read it don't post that you wont read it.

Lol, so then another Mod read it.  
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Post by: Moosetroop11 on March 28, 2008, 08:33:15 PM
I read it. I think it's doable. There's about a million things we're trying to get the go ahead for at the moment but I guess there's room for this. If you want the mods to talk about it officially I'll make a thread about it now.

Sounds kinda like Gem's game of the month thing, but I dunno if he's still doing that XD
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Post by: Ace of Spades on March 28, 2008, 08:43:26 PM
I read it. :p I could've sworn we already had a sub forum for game reviews. It was called... Game Reviews (omg). Was it removed when GhostClown left? I'm pretty sure he was the one who lead the operation.
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Post by: Linkforce on March 28, 2008, 10:18:22 PM
Moose: Thanks that would be great!!  Let me know how things go.

Ace:  :P  And yeah that one by Ghostclown is really old and nobody uses it anymore.  Plus that was a thread and I would like this to be a new section.
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Post by: GaryCXJk on March 29, 2008, 12:38:43 AM
Stopped reading when I read Gamespot. Gamespot is a shitsite. It's too biased, even though they occasionally give console games other than those of XBox360 a decent rating. I mean, compare their Ratchet & Clank rating with other sources. Only they dared to give it a **** rating.
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Post by: Emerates on March 29, 2008, 01:55:37 AM
Mayhap other people should be able to review as well, not just the designated team.
You could call it Civilian Review or something.  That way there a lot of different views and opinions out for a single game that people can work with.  Plus, if a complaint about one particular thing keeps coming up in reviews, something can be done about it.  Usually, if one person says something sucks, it's just seen as bitching.  But if a bunch of people are bitching about the same thing, mob rule can be used effectively.

Mayhap.

BTW, I'm still iffy about this idea.  It seems a bit superfluous.  Not many people post their demos here, or so I think.  I could be wrong, though.  I don't get around much.
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Post by: aboutasoandthis on March 29, 2008, 02:10:14 AM
I really like that idea. Maybe the first few who want to review the game together get the job, and if nobody does it this will go to a set team, or something?

As for the game demos they're coming. I've got something planned.
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Post by: Ben on March 29, 2008, 03:28:26 AM
Ive got quest RPG demo, that could use a review.
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Post by: Linkforce on March 29, 2008, 04:18:12 AM
Yeah I got a new demo coming out soon as well.  If this became a new section we could have maybe one sticky thread of reviews by a set "team" of reviewers and then another sticky thread for any casual member reviews.  That could help to eliminate any biased opinions.
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Post by: Linkforce on April 03, 2008, 06:50:21 PM
Any word yet, Mods?
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Post by: Meiscool-2 on April 03, 2008, 11:37:04 PM
Can someone write a review for Zelda and the Phantom Hourglass (DS) for me? Cuz I played a bit of it and I didn't really like the intro. I want to know if it gets better or if it pretty much stays the same.

And... if this isn't for reviewing any game... then it should be. Reviews for rpgmaker games should go in the Games forum section, and even then they should probably go in their respective topic rather than a smaller topic with a bunch of reviews in it.
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Post by: Ben on April 04, 2008, 12:27:34 AM
for the record, and slightly off topic, the game of the month for april will be up on friday
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Post by: aboutasoandthis on April 04, 2008, 01:08:13 AM
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Originally posted by Meiscool
Can someone write a review for Zelda and the Phantom Hourglass (DS) for me? Cuz I played a bit of it and I didn't really like the intro. I want to know if it gets better or if it pretty much stays the same.


Famitsu gave it a 39/40 so it's supposed to be good...

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Originally posted by Meiscool
And... if this isn't for reviewing any game... then it should be. Reviews for rpgmaker games should go in the Games forum section, and even then they should probably go in their respective topic rather than a smaller topic with a bunch of reviews in it.


I think for real games those should just be casual reviews.
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Post by: Linkforce on April 04, 2008, 01:28:21 AM
Yeah this is gonna be just for RM games.

Off Topic: Maybe we could have a sub forum for actual game reviews..........???  lol
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Post by: Archem on April 04, 2008, 08:36:13 AM
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Can someone write a review for Zelda and the Phantom Hourglass (DS) for me? Cuz I played a bit of it and I didn't really like the intro. I want to know if it gets better or if it pretty much stays the same.

Great game. End of story.
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Post by: Cerebus on April 05, 2008, 07:59:18 AM
Well, while you're at it... about Phantom Hourglass... I tried it at some market and... is it possible to move with the control pad? Or is the Stylus the only way to move around..? Because I really disliked that...

And about game reviews... I'd like this idea. More for actual game, but RM games reviews is a good idea too. So many games I'd like know about... of course, I could go to Gamefaqs or whatever... but I don't know... Anyway.
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Post by: Meiscool-2 on April 06, 2008, 08:40:08 PM
The online part of Phantom is pretty cool, but the actual game is kinda boring to me.
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Post by: aboutasoandthis on April 06, 2008, 11:03:53 PM
Personally I find all the Zelda's boring. It's not that there bad games, they're actually great. They just feel recycled.
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Post by: ZeroKirbyX on April 07, 2008, 02:13:08 AM
What's sad is Aboutaso is right. Whats sadder is it applies to every series. :/
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Post by: Meiscool-2 on April 07, 2008, 03:15:43 AM
Well, it's better than how Samus keeps losing her powerups.
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Post by: aboutasoandthis on April 07, 2008, 03:44:34 AM
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Originally posted by ZeroKirbyX
What's sad is Aboutaso is right. Whats sadder is it applies to every series. :/


They could try a little harder with Zelda. I mean, Colossus and Okami took a lot from Zelda, but were still both really original. They managed to revitalize Mario and Pokemon. Zelda needs to do something new. I wanna see a Zelda game that takes place on a giant falling continent in the sky or something.
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Post by: Linkforce on April 07, 2008, 03:47:13 AM
It would be nice if people would stay on topic.  Or took it somewhere else.  Thank you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by: Meiscool-2 on April 07, 2008, 10:14:28 PM
shhh, don't kill the topic! Just change the name to "talk about/bitch about games"