Post by: Osmose on May 23, 2008, 06:13:59 PM
I <3 Weezer
Post by: Ben on May 23, 2008, 06:59:17 PM
I was skeptical about the song...and then you showed me this.
Im all of a sudden really excited for the Red Album
Post by: Archem on May 23, 2008, 07:21:21 PM
Post by: Dragonium on May 23, 2008, 07:48:14 PM
That's how you know your song/video is awesome, when people who never listen to your music like it.
Or something.
Post by: coasterkrazy on May 23, 2008, 08:18:23 PM
I've seen some music videos that match that though, such as the treadmill dance one (can't remember what it's called) or Word Disassociation. They're at least as good as that.
Post by: c0rn on May 23, 2008, 08:34:02 PM
The treadmill one is by OK Go I think
And
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AuK2A1ZqoWs
Is a pretty sweet song and the video completes it.
Post by: drenrin2120 on May 23, 2008, 08:40:25 PM
Post by: WarxePB on May 23, 2008, 08:53:23 PM
Post by: Almeidaboo on May 23, 2008, 09:10:38 PM
That pretty much makes me go "meh" about Weezer, about your lives, about everything...
Post by: MrMister on May 23, 2008, 11:05:05 PM
Post by: aboutasoandthis on May 23, 2008, 11:33:15 PM
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Originally posted by c0rn
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AuK2A1ZqoWs
Is a pretty sweet song and the video completes it.
Oh HELL NO. I HAAATTEEE Flobots with a PASSION!!!!!!!!!
BURN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: Dominicy on May 24, 2008, 12:00:24 AM
Post by: aboutasoandthis on May 24, 2008, 12:10:37 AM
Might as well repost some Justice Vids. Stress is my favorite.
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x1upou_justice-dance
http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoid=29486720
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zxsu2-xcvNs&feature=related
http://www.kanyeuniversecity.com/blog/?em3106=193629_-1__0_~0_-1_5_2008_0_0
Post by: Moosetroop11 on May 24, 2008, 01:04:55 AM
HOWEVER, that video was pure awesome.
Post by: HackersTotalMassLaser on May 24, 2008, 02:14:48 AM
Post by: Razor on May 24, 2008, 02:56:18 AM
But for all good and stuff they should just refer to that song as "the Internet song"
Post by: ZeroKirbyX on May 24, 2008, 04:22:07 AM
Post by: Apex on May 24, 2008, 06:57:26 AM
That, and the song was boring.
Post by: Osmose on May 24, 2008, 10:50:08 AM
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Originally posted by Apex
It pisses me off when people try to cross-media with internet fads. Every time I see the letters "OMG" on a television, I want to punch someone in the face. I saw the episode of South Park recently that was PRACTICALLY THE SAME THINGS AS THIS MUSIC VIDEO, and to be quite honest, it was painful to watch. South Park is known for cashing in on trends, and I don't know between the two of them which cashed in on this first, but either way, both of them were sickening to watch. Stay in your own damn media, that goes to Family Guy too, a once great show, that's amounted to nothing more than a terrible pile of ****, that lacks any humor what-so-ever.
That, and the song was boring.
Stop being so damn elitist. Yes, the internet is the most popular thing since sex was invented, and yes, as much as you hate it, everyone else is in on the secret. It's not as if there aren't already idiots on the internet, so I don't get why you think it's such a horrible thing that other forms of media reference the internet.
Much in the same way an art critic with a stick up his *** shouldn't freak out when he sees Dali's work being referenced in a cartoon, you shouldn't freak out when your precious internets gets referenced in a music video (Not to mention, who even watches MTV or VH1 anymore? Where else would you see this video BUT the internet?)
Post by: HackersTotalMassLaser on May 24, 2008, 02:03:02 PM
And that part in South park was friggin awesome. Epic in proportions.
The only time when I get poked at something like this, is when they do shameless exploitation. I think this and the southpark thing and even family guy, passes as "just for the lulz"
But, per say, a news network goes ahead and starts using it for mere audience attraction, then i think that's bogus. Of course that is the main reason why the others are doing it, but it's also there for the lulz. News =/= lulz.
Post by: ZeroKirbyX on May 24, 2008, 04:15:43 PM
Post by: Apex on May 24, 2008, 04:58:45 PM
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Originally posted by OsmoseQuoteOriginally posted by Apex
It pisses me off when people try to cross-media with internet fads. Every time I see the letters "OMG" on a television, I want to punch someone in the face. I saw the episode of South Park recently that was PRACTICALLY THE SAME THINGS AS THIS MUSIC VIDEO, and to be quite honest, it was painful to watch. South Park is known for cashing in on trends, and I don't know between the two of them which cashed in on this first, but either way, both of them were sickening to watch. Stay in your own damn media, that goes to Family Guy too, a once great show, that's amounted to nothing more than a terrible pile of ****, that lacks any humor what-so-ever.
That, and the song was boring.
Stop being so damn elitist. Yes, the internet is the most popular thing since sex was invented, and yes, as much as you hate it, everyone else is in on the secret. It's not as if there aren't already idiots on the internet, so I don't get why you think it's such a horrible thing that other forms of media reference the internet.
Much in the same way an art critic with a stick up his *** shouldn't freak out when he sees Dali's work being referenced in a cartoon, you shouldn't freak out when your precious internets gets referenced in a music video (Not to mention, who even watches MTV or VH1 anymore? Where else would you see this video BUT the internet?)[/B]
Point out where the music video "referenced" the internet.
It didn't IT *** RAPED IT. There wasn't a ten second period of that music video where it didn't show something based off youtube. It ceased being a referenced and started being a total cross-media venture. If you saw a cartoon with Dali, it's no big deal, just as if they would have thrown a picture of Pedobear in there randomly, but when the cartoon bases a fraction of it's episode on Pedobear or something else internet related, it becomes a cash in. They're cashing in on peoples interest, because if they do one thing pertaining to the internet, chances are they'll do it again somewhere, which is only a ****-ploy to attract audiences that wouldn't normally watch.
Listen to the song, the part you practically all criticized; the only thing you people enjoyed about the entire thing were the youtube cameos, and guess what, I guarantee that at least one of you will continue to keep an eye out on his videos just see if they ever make another similar effort. It's cashing in, it's no different then Guitar Hero II putting Trogdor in their game, it made the stupid and satirical internet people scream "Hooray, someone cares." And after that song, millions of before skeptical internet yokels began to take interest in the game series. Lining Red Octane's pockets with the cash of internet fad go-ers. Companies that employ cross-media "references" 9/10ths of the time are only cashing in on the low self-esteemed internet fools.
I'm not impressed with the video, simply because it's aimed at youtube users, and basically shows that Weezer is willing to bend over and take it for cash and popularity, even from the whiney emos/crybabies/weeabos/poopers/high-and-mighty-youtube-critics/pre-teens that browes youtube regularly enough to know all of those references. It'd be like me animating a popular band into one of my GIF's (Which I haven't made in forever.) just to make you guys like me more, only shows that I'm a sell out, and I lack the ability to make you guys like me otherwise. (Which it really seems this way to me.)
Oh, and even if you think I'm wrong on this Osmose, you'll never be able to change the way I view these sellout, overrated, horrid-sounding-losers. /self-righteousness
Post by: Dominicy on May 24, 2008, 06:28:12 PM
Post by: Archem on May 24, 2008, 06:54:14 PM
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Originally posted by ApexQuoteOriginally posted by OsmoseQuoteOriginally posted by Apex
It pisses me off when people try to cross-media with internet fads. Every time I see the letters "OMG" on a television, I want to punch someone in the face. I saw the episode of South Park recently that was PRACTICALLY THE SAME THINGS AS THIS MUSIC VIDEO, and to be quite honest, it was painful to watch. South Park is known for cashing in on trends, and I don't know between the two of them which cashed in on this first, but either way, both of them were sickening to watch. Stay in your own damn media, that goes to Family Guy too, a once great show, that's amounted to nothing more than a terrible pile of ****, that lacks any humor what-so-ever.
That, and the song was boring.
Stop being so damn elitist. Yes, the internet is the most popular thing since sex was invented, and yes, as much as you hate it, everyone else is in on the secret. It's not as if there aren't already idiots on the internet, so I don't get why you think it's such a horrible thing that other forms of media reference the internet.
Much in the same way an art critic with a stick up his *** shouldn't freak out when he sees Dali's work being referenced in a cartoon, you shouldn't freak out when your precious internets gets referenced in a music video (Not to mention, who even watches MTV or VH1 anymore? Where else would you see this video BUT the internet?)[/B]
Point out where the music video "referenced" the internet.
It didn't IT *** RAPED IT. There wasn't a ten second period of that music video where it didn't show something based off youtube. It ceased being a referenced and started being a total cross-media venture. If you saw a cartoon with Dali, it's no big deal, just as if they would have thrown a picture of Pedobear in there randomly, but when the cartoon bases a fraction of it's episode on Pedobear or something else internet related, it becomes a cash in. They're cashing in on peoples interest, because if they do one thing pertaining to the internet, chances are they'll do it again somewhere, which is only a ****-ploy to attract audiences that wouldn't normally watch.
Listen to the song, the part you practically all criticized; the only thing you people enjoyed about the entire thing were the youtube cameos, and guess what, I guarantee that at least one of you will continue to keep an eye out on his videos just see if they ever make another similar effort. It's cashing in, it's no different then Guitar Hero II putting Trogdor in their game, it made the stupid and satirical internet people scream "Hooray, someone cares." And after that song, millions of before skeptical internet yokels began to take interest in the game series. Lining Red Octane's pockets with the cash of internet fad go-ers. Companies that employ cross-media "references" 9/10ths of the time are only cashing in on the low self-esteemed internet fools.
I'm not impressed with the video, simply because it's aimed at youtube users, and basically shows that Weezer is willing to bend over and take it for cash and popularity, even from the whiney emos/crybabies/weeabos/poopers/high-and-mighty-youtube-critics/pre-teens that browes youtube regularly enough to know all of those references. It'd be like me animating a popular band into one of my GIF's (Which I haven't made in forever.) just to make you guys like me more, only shows that I'm a sell out, and I lack the ability to make you guys like me otherwise. (Which it really seems this way to me.)
Oh, and even if you think I'm wrong on this Osmose, you'll never be able to change the way I view these sellout, overrated, horrid-sounding-losers. /self-righteousness[/B]
God, such a dick.
Post by: Ben on May 24, 2008, 07:00:34 PM
the thing is....with a music video, its the artists call as to wether or not they want to parody, satire, emulate, reference or @$$ rape anpother entity. I like ya Apex, but think you got your but tied in knots over nothing here. I have to agree with Osmose 1000%.
The Internet does not belong to you, and as such, your urge to punch things upon seeing "OMG"on TV is a bit unfounded. Do you get the Same Urge when you see Google Ad Banners for Streaming TV? Do you get this urge when you see TV characters graphically represented online?If not, then youre full of hypocracy with that statement. But I dont want to attack you over this.
The fact of the matter is....
Art emulates Life, and Life emulates Art. Its inevetable, and resisting this pretty much shows a fear of change or progression. Im not saying you have to Like it, or even Embrace it....but you Do have to accept it.
Weezer has made a pretty effective strategy of satirizing pop culture in their videos in the past. When the buddy holly video came out, it really pushed them into the mainstream, strictly because of the buzz it created. It was seamlessly presented, and it made people wonder "How did they do that?" They took Pop culture from the past and used it to present their product in a way to market themselves.
And Despite Having Drawn the current reference to pop culture from a different media then they did in the Buddy Holly Video, they Have really done nothing different. They took A Piece of Pop Culture (Albeit a slightly more modern one then 'happy days') and they used it to make an appealing product to stir up some hype.
When They did this with the Buddy Holly Video, they were obviously targetting 16-30 year olds. In 93, an 18to 25 year old probably grew up watching Happy Days, and would instantly relate to the Video, and leave it standing out in their memory. They would say at work/school to their friends "Hey, did you see that new video, the one made from old happy days clips?" and the marketing strategy is now a sucess.
When they do it today, they are targeting 16-30 year olds. The same process applies. A 16 year old today has watched a million and one of these "Viral Videos" and can relate.
Sure, theyve drawn from the internet....but theyve Drawn from internet VIDEOS. to create a Music VIDEO....that....well...that I watch ONLINE.
Getting chapped over the use of materials in this video is as osmose said "elitist"
The Internet does not belong to anybody. TV can reference it. Movies Can too. Because holy crap, does the internet ever reference the hell out of other media.
I will discontinue my text wall for now, as I seem to have lost my point
Post by: ZeroKirbyX on May 24, 2008, 08:00:56 PM
Post by: Ben on May 24, 2008, 08:26:58 PM
Post by: ZeroKirbyX on May 24, 2008, 08:30:29 PM
Post by: Apex on May 24, 2008, 09:51:02 PM
No, I just don't buy into it is all, stuff like that doesn't impress me, just the opposite is all. If it works for them, great, their the ones bringing in millions, not me. I'm not saying what they're doing is stupid, because their capitalizing on it, I just don't like there methods, it seems like a cheap-shot cash in to me. Such as EA games, and the flood of Guitar video games as of recent, no effort, just putting on a familiar face to sell to people who like the eye candy and the image.
To Archem and ZeroKirby, I'd rather have 1000 meaningful posts that I put effort and thought into, than 4000-5000 shitty one liner posts that don't add anything to an argument/discussion other than your name appearing more in topics. Here's another radical opinion for people to disagree with me on...
Sorry, all I can do is blame stress for my actions and what I say, because I'm nothing more than a retarded dick-elitist. :P On a nice note: Thanks Gemini, for being mature in an argument, you're a pretty cool guy too.
Post by: HackersTotalMassLaser on May 24, 2008, 10:22:59 PM
Internet is a serious business guys.
Just to let you all know, I didnt read the walls of text.
Post by: ZeroKirbyX on May 24, 2008, 10:43:04 PM
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Originally posted by Apex
If I come off as sounding upset, it's just the stress, I'm not pumping steam out of my ears.
No, I just don't buy into it is all, stuff like that doesn't impress me, just the opposite is all. If it works for them, great, their the ones bringing in millions, not me. I'm not saying what they're doing is stupid, because their capitalizing on it, I just don't like there methods, it seems like a cheap-shot cash in to me. Such as EA games, and the flood of Guitar video games as of recent, no effort, just putting on a familiar face to sell to people who like the eye candy and the image.
To Archem and ZeroKirby, I'd rather have 1000 meaningful posts that I put effort and thought into, than 4000-5000 shitty one liner posts that don't add anything to an argument/discussion other than your name appearing more in topics. Here's another radical opinion for people to disagree with me on...
Sorry, all I can do is blame stress for my actions and what I say, because I'm nothing more than a retarded dick-elitist. :P On a nice note: Thanks Gemini, for being mature in an argument, you're a pretty cool guy too.
Now that's just rude.
+1 post count.
Post by: Ben on May 24, 2008, 10:46:15 PM
Post by: Apex on May 24, 2008, 11:25:46 PM
+1 post count, while revealing a little bit about myself.
Post by: Almeidaboo on May 25, 2008, 04:37:16 AM
Post by: Apex on May 25, 2008, 05:00:57 AM
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Originally posted by Almeidaboo
Did anyone see the link I posted, at all? Why are we still discussing Weezer? Weezer = good, video = awesome. That's about it.
To the untrained eye.
Post by: Osmose on May 25, 2008, 10:59:27 AM
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Originally posted by Almeidaboo
Did anyone see the link I posted, at all? Why are we still discussing Weezer? Weezer = good, video = awesome. That's about it.
For some reason that website didn't work in Firefox 3 so I didn't bother with it.
Post by: GaryCXJk on May 26, 2008, 09:52:25 AM
And the topic title did say "Weezer", so make your own god damn topic about your own god damn shitty link.
Anyway, I find it kind of cool that Weezer mixes their music with other media and ****. Like in Keep Fishing, it was just one big The Muppets skit, and Buddy Holly played out like a Happy Days epinsode.
Post by: shinotebasiiackh on May 26, 2008, 01:23:48 PM
Post by: HackersTotalMassLaser on May 26, 2008, 02:21:44 PM
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Originally posted by shinotebasiiackh
wtf was that rat thing?
dramatic prairie dog. I'll kill you if you dont know what that is
Post by: Apex on May 26, 2008, 03:19:01 PM
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Originally posted by GaryCXJk
There's nothing wrong in mixing media with internet. Complaining about it makes you a ****ing elitist ***hole.
And the topic title did say "Weezer", so make your own god damn topic about your own god damn shitty link.
Anyway, I find it kind of cool that Weezer mixes their music with other media and ****. Like in Keep Fishing, it was just one big The Muppets skit, and Buddy Holly played out like a Happy Days epinsode.
What's more immature, someone complaining over something valid, or the five people complaining about him complaining?
Post by: Bluhman on May 26, 2008, 03:50:42 PM
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Originally posted by ApexQuoteOriginally posted by GaryCXJk
There's nothing wrong in mixing media with internet. Complaining about it makes you a ****ing elitist ***hole.
And the topic title did say "Weezer", so make your own god damn topic about your own god damn shitty link.
Anyway, I find it kind of cool that Weezer mixes their music with other media and ****. Like in Keep Fishing, it was just one big The Muppets skit, and Buddy Holly played out like a Happy Days epinsode.
What's more immature, someone complaining over something valid, or the five people complaining about him complaining?[/B]
That's what HITLER WOULD SAAY!!!! _veryangry_ *Runs off*
lol this post lok thred
Post by: Ben on May 26, 2008, 04:56:53 PM
Post by: shinotebasiiackh on May 26, 2008, 06:34:55 PM
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Originally posted by HackersTotalMassLaserQuoteOriginally posted by shinotebasiiackh
wtf was that rat thing?
dramatic prairie dog. I'll kill you if you dont know what that is[/B]
Bring it, shnookums!
Dramatic prairie dogs are the ones that start screaming bloody murder when you don't shoot them dead-on, right?
Post by: ZeroKirbyX on May 26, 2008, 06:50:20 PM
Post by: Archem on May 26, 2008, 07:08:01 PM
If it's so meaningless, how come it means so much to me that I can express my opinion, even if it's heavily laced in sarcasm half the time?
TOPIC: I like things that I like, regardless of how the money making machine (MMM) behind it all may be trying to "cash in" on something popular. That's how you make money. Nobody's gonna buy things that are unpopular. The internet's crazy popular, so it only makes sense that if you incorporate the internet into your works, it will be successful. And I think that in the vid, they walk the line between cool and oblivious quite well. It's calling our attention to things that we all love/hate without overusing l33t sp33k and words like "radical" and "yo". That's how you do things. I mean, everything that you see on the internet references the internet, and half of that references things other than the internet. Why can't the reverse be true without some stinky orifice trying to tell us that it's a ploy to make us buy something? I haven't payed for their music. I haven't gone to any channels that are within ten numbers of MTV or the like in the last decade. I haven't bothered to even turn on the radio in the past year. How is this cashing in on me?
Post by: HackersTotalMassLaser on May 26, 2008, 10:19:09 PM
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here on the prairies, we dont call them prarie dogs. We call them Gophers
Hillbilly.
Post by: Ben on May 26, 2008, 10:27:16 PM
And I live in a rather large city.
They dig holes in the yard of my condo.
EDIT:
INTERNET
SERIOUS BUSINESS
Calm down fools, its a silly weezer video.
If you dont have anything nice to say, at least word it so that you sound like youre being objective and have an education.
Post by: Moosetroop11 on May 26, 2008, 11:11:49 PM
I feel as if I should add something constructive.
Going back to your GH2 point, Apex... I think you've completely lost the plot XD
By your reasoning, adding Last Child was a completely annoying evil scheme to get Aerosmith fans to play the game. And the rage against the machine fans would've been safe from the greedy company but they were ensnared by the malicious addition of killing in the name!!!
People know that they're spending money on these things, man. They give money, and in return, they want to be entertained. Songs like Trogdor made certain people smile and that made the game more, you know, entertaining. If you go through life being as cynical as you've been in this thread then you're going to kill the joy in everything.
Post by: Osmose on May 27, 2008, 03:29:09 AM
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That's what HITLER WOULD SAAY!!!! _veryangry_ *Runs off*[/B]
Godwin's law (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin's_law). This argument has degenerated into meaninglessness; Apex thinks different from everyone else and it's clear no one is going to change their minds.
As per the modified rules of the law, this thread is now closed.