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Off-Topic => Creative arts => Topic started by: Fisherson on July 23, 2008, 03:36:33 AM

Title: The Fires of Balzar my novel
Post by: Fisherson on July 23, 2008, 03:36:33 AM
Hello,if you don't know me,i'm Fisherson and I wrote and posted a novel some months ago.
It was a Sci-fi novel entitled the Fires of Balzar.I will be posting my writings on here as I finish them.
i'm looking for critisism and advice.
Title: Re: The Fires of Balzar my novel
Post by: Fisherson on July 24, 2008, 03:06:19 PM
In the frozen depths of space there spins a quite unremarkble
little green planet by the name of Balzar.It is a class three
world in the Free Alliance.Which means it is a pre-tecnological
planet with no goverment system.Which is no suprise to some considering
the inhabitants happen to be reptiles,They are called Balzari.
A balzari is typicaly four to six feet tall covered in blue,black and scales.
They are regaurded by most as agressive,primitive and stupid,but this is not
the case episcialy in the case of a young Balzari by the name of Salazar.

How is my opening,is it good or is there somthing more i should add?
Also,has anyone ever sold a novel they were writing?I need to some tips on
how long the chapters should be in order to transfer on to paper,you know what i'm talking about?
Title: Re: The Fires of Balzar my novel
Post by: ZeroKirbyX on July 24, 2008, 04:28:25 PM
It's pretty... bad.
Title: Re: The Fires of Balzar my novel
Post by: Fisherson on July 24, 2008, 04:38:40 PM
It's pretty... bad.
Ok,how exactly?
Title: Re: The Fires of Balzar my novel
Post by: Prpl_Mage on July 24, 2008, 05:11:40 PM
In the frozen depths of space there spins a quite unremarkble little green planet by the name of Balzar.
It is a class three world in the Free Alliance. Which means it is a pre-tecnological planet with no goverment system.
  Which is no suprise to some considering the inhabitants happen to be reptiles.
They are called Balzari; a balzari is typicaly four to six feet tall covered in blue,black and scales.
They are regaurded by most as agressive,primitive and dumb,but this is not the case, episcialy not a young Balzari by the name of Salazar.

I didn't do anything.

Ok, I did. Well, it's good I suppose. But you need to catch the readers' interest. I'm afraid this doesn't.
First of all, perhaps some more formal words. It always looks good in novels.
And well, that description about the Balzari wasn't too important at the moment was it? You could easily move that part into the actual story where there could be a sentence like "Salazar stood in front of his brother, the blue-black scales glimmered in the sunlight".
Just trying to say that the things about the nature of the people did well, just not the looks of them.

Just try to read through your text though. I kinda reacted to some things.
Title: Re: The Fires of Balzar my novel
Post by: Fisherson on July 24, 2008, 05:23:35 PM
Ah,i see thank you Prpl,i see now.I'll write a new one tonight if i get time.
Thank you for your help.
Title: Re: The Fires of Balzar my novel
Post by: Fisherson on July 27, 2008, 12:41:16 AM
This is what I wrote today.It is not all that i'm planing to write today.

The Fires of Balzar chapter one Salazar the Devastator


The Fires of Balzar chapter one Salazar the Devastator


He stod in the shadow of towering Balori tree waiting for his prey to reveal itself.It was very humid,but
Salazar did not sweat,to do such beffore he could hurl his spear at the quick moving
Shishmack,would be a misstake.He was begining to grow inpatient with this follihness,he could hunt better than any of hisfellow tribesmen,even Shoro The Watchfull,his tribe cheiftanHe knew this because ohter hunters could guess a prey's moves as they happened,
but Salazar could feel the prey's emotions and reactions before they even knew they
were being hunted.
Title: Re: The Fires of Balzar my novel
Post by: ZeroKirbyX on July 27, 2008, 01:01:04 AM
That's not exactly enough to post in terms of a story. It doesn't really make a lot of sense, particularly the last few sentences, and there are more than a few errors in type and punctuation.
Title: Re: The Fires of Balzar my novel
Post by: Fisherson on July 27, 2008, 01:17:52 AM
Remember, try to be as descritive as possible. Use many words, many sentence. The bigger it is, the better. Describe the place, the time, the lighting, all that ****. ;)
And check your topic.
Thanks I will try i'll revise it and add some tomorow if i get a chance.
Title: Re: The Fires of Balzar my novel
Post by: Phayre on July 27, 2008, 02:41:08 AM
Bigger, overdescriptive, etc =/= better. Describe what's important, don't flood us with adjectives. Just enough to paint a picture, Lucas.
As for your story, Fisherson, even after sifting through the bad spellign and such, it's just. . . meh. Sorry. If you want, I've taken fantasy workshops with authors of some of the Star Wars books, along with Tamora Pierce and a few other authors. If you need any editing done, I'll see what I can do, but I can be pretty angry in my editing comments.
Title: Re: The Fires of Balzar my novel
Post by: Fisherson on July 27, 2008, 02:49:22 AM
Bigger, overdescriptive, etc =/= better. Describe what's important, don't flood us with adjectives. Just enough to paint a picture, Lucas.
As for your story, Fisherson, even after sifting through the bad spellign and such, it's just. . . meh. Sorry. If you want, I've taken fantasy workshops with authors of some of the Star Wars books, along with Tamora Pierce and a few other authors. If you need any editing done, I'll see what I can do, but I can be pretty angry in my editing comments.
Sure,thanks for offering to edit,i need one realy bad.I'm sorry about my spelling
when i was younger i told my mother that i wouldn't take a spelling class and what you see is the
result.Wait a minute are you saying you helped a writer with work on a star wars book?!
I've been wanting to try writing for the Star Wars expanded universe and couldn't figure out how
to contct them.
Title: Re: The Fires of Balzar my novel
Post by: ZeroKirbyX on July 27, 2008, 03:18:11 AM
Not to be rude, but there's no way you could write for that series yet. Just keep practicing.
Title: Re: The Fires of Balzar my novel
Post by: Ben on July 27, 2008, 07:22:22 AM
Reptiles cant sweat, sop mentioning that is didn't sweat is redundant.
Reptiles are cold blooded. In a Warm environment, they would feel especially lively and active
Title: Re: The Fires of Balzar my novel
Post by: A Forgotten Legend on July 27, 2008, 07:31:47 AM
Maybe you could describe the environment a bit more.  Maybe, "The sun was shining through the great Balori tree as the humid air left drops of moisture upon it's leaves." Or of the sort.  (Just off the top of my head)
Describe in detail so the reader can get a really good sense of where everything is happening.  Is he in a rain forest-like area?  Or maybe topical island?  Also, Proof-Reading is your friend.

+ I can never remember if it's is "it is" or the possessive. o.o  I wanted it to be the possessive. >.>
Title: Re: The Fires of Balzar my novel
Post by: Prpl_Mage on July 27, 2008, 07:44:15 AM
It's all about practise to be honest. I can see that you are not that good at writing novels. You have some spelling and grammar misstakes, things that MS word would react to especially.
The thing you need to work the most on might be the punctuation and the commas. Yours just doesn't make sense most of the time.

The rest is all about experience. You learn more the more you write, your sentances could use quite some work to catch the reader's interest. But you just gotta learn from your own misstakes. Go read a book you like and compare it to what you're writing. I bet you'll see the difference between how descriptive they are compared to you, and in what manner.
Title: Re: The Fires of Balzar my novel
Post by: Fisherson on July 27, 2008, 04:12:21 PM
Reptiles cant sweat, sop mentioning that is didn't sweat is redundant.
Reptiles are cold blooded. In a Warm environment, they would feel especially lively and active


Oh O.K.,it's been a wile since i took sceince.And don't have cable or dish TV.
I'm going to do a little research on Lizzard Phisology.

Maybe you could describe the environment a bit more.  Maybe, "The sun was shining through the great Balori tree as the humid air left drops of moisture upon it's leaves." Or of the sort.  (Just off the top of my head)
Describe in detail so the reader can get a really good sense of where everything is happening.  Is he in a rain forest-like area?  Or maybe topical island?  Also, Proof-Reading is your friend.

+ I can never remember if it's is "it is" or the possessive. o.o  I wanted it to be the possessive. >.>

Okay,got it.More descrpitive..i like your cliping,by the way.

The thing you need to work the most on might be the punctuation and the commas. Yours just doesn't make sense most of the time.

I havn't taken english in a wile ethier.,so i'm going to try that too.
Thanks for your advice and for taking this seriously i realy need this money.
They're going to put an over pass by my house and i may have to move away..
Title: Re: The Fires of Balzar my novel
Post by: A Forgotten Legend on July 27, 2008, 04:35:00 PM
Thanks. ^^

The storyline itself seems like it'll be very interesting.  Good Luck.
Title: Re: The Fires of Balzar my novel
Post by: Fisherson on July 27, 2008, 04:49:44 PM
Thanks. ^^

The storyline itself seems like it'll be very interesting.  Good Luck.

You havn't even heard the best part one the main characters
is a rock star who end up joing the millitary as a test pilot.
By the way,most of this based on a RP me and my freind do over
the phone somtimes.
Title: Re: The Fires of Balzar my novel
Post by: ZeroKirbyX on July 27, 2008, 05:00:14 PM
Stop making ****ing excuses. If you post work to get opinions and they point out a flaw, don't say "It's because of blah," just fix it.
Title: Re: The Fires of Balzar my novel
Post by: Fisherson on July 27, 2008, 05:24:31 PM
Stop making ****ing excuses. If you post work to get opinions and they point out a flaw, don't say "It's because of blah," just fix it.

Er sorry when was i making up excuses?Do you mean what i said about not taking
sceince and english classes in a while?Cause I have A.D.H.D.,so it takes me more effort to learn things.
i forget things very easy if I don't practise them over and over again.Thats not an excuse,it is my life.
Title: Re: The Fires of Balzar my novel
Post by: ZeroKirbyX on July 27, 2008, 05:29:58 PM
Its an excuse if its a reason why you did or didn't do something. "I didn't take English," isn't an excuse for poor writing. If you didn't take English, maybe you should before you want to write for Star Wars.
Title: Re: The Fires of Balzar my novel
Post by: Phayre on July 27, 2008, 05:30:56 PM
No, they kinda taught me at the workshop. Check it out: http://alpha.spellcaster.org , it's a great workshop for young writers. /shameless plug.
But ADHD or no, you still need more practice. Please don't turn this into a bitter discussion of how "disorder x" ruined your life, education, and all that-- we can all play that game, and it's not fun.
Title: Re: The Fires of Balzar my novel
Post by: Fisherson on July 27, 2008, 05:36:50 PM
Its an excuse if its a reason why you did or didn't do something. "I didn't take English," isn't an excuse for poor writing. If you didn't take English, maybe you should before you want to write for Star Wars.

I did english lol! sorry I meant to say that i havn't taken it since i graduated :-[

No, they kinda taught me at the workshop. Check it out: http://alpha.spellcaster.org , it's a great workshop for young writers. /shameless plug.
But ADHD or no, you still need more practice. Please don't turn this into a bitter discussion of how "disorder x" ruined your life, education, and all that-- we can all play that game, and it's not fun.
Sorry about the blame game thing,Phayre.Thank you for the link i'll try it.
The not Leon will still edit for Fish,right?
Title: Re: The Fires of Balzar my novel
Post by: A Forgotten Legend on July 27, 2008, 05:53:22 PM
Uh, a bit of flaming no? o.o

I think that Phayre is right, (like pretty much any other time).

And you do need practice. Also: Practice doesn't make perfect, perfect practice makes perfect.
Title: Re: The Fires of Balzar my novel
Post by: Ben on July 27, 2008, 07:09:50 PM
chill out dudes.


Yeah, on the internet, there is no such thing as any disease other then cancer or aids.


Keep practicing fish, it'll get better.
Perhaps Mapping out your story will help, rather then reciting an old rp from the phone. (phone rp?!?wierd)
The way you're wording youself makes things sound like a short story. I think you would be better of not calling this a "Novel"
because novels often have nothing but pages upion pages of description and insigt into the characters minds, and the histories of the world and situation. Especially sci fi or fantasy. AS much as people tent to think otherwise, it can almost be the hardest thing to write well.

Yeah. Quit calling it a novel. Its a long short story. That being said, google "Short story writing tips" and lear learn learn
Title: Re: The Fires of Balzar my novel
Post by: Moosetroop11 on July 27, 2008, 07:12:41 PM
As far as I can tell, the best way to get better at writing is to read more.

And I wouldn't class zeek's comments as 'flaming' as such. If you honestly aspire to write professionally, taking a class in english spelling might be a good idea... He's got a point.