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Title: Topic switch: SSBB
Post by: Felix-0 on September 01, 2008, 07:45:58 AM
I gave up on keeping on topic
Title: Re: I goes to Pro Halo3 tournment Next week
Post by: HobomasterXXX on September 01, 2008, 07:52:12 AM
Unless theres cash prizes or something i would find this horrible and would rather spend my time playing with friends in splitscreen at my house.
Title: Re: I goes to Pro Halo3 tournment Next week
Post by: Meiscool-2 on September 01, 2008, 08:07:23 AM
I went into a two vs. two team ssbm competition and we won second place a couple years ago. It was a really great experience. Practially everyone there was the same as me, hence I made quite a few friends.
Title: Re: I goes to Pro Halo3 tournment Next week
Post by: HobomasterXXX on September 01, 2008, 08:08:51 AM
Oh god i just had a terrible thought of what a Counter Strike tournament would be like... so horrible.... *dies*
Title: Re: I goes to Pro Halo3 tournment Next week
Post by: Meiscool-2 on September 01, 2008, 08:28:43 AM
Oh god i just had a terrible thought of what a Counter Strike tournament would be like... so horrible.... *dies*

*uses cheats*
Title: Re: I goes to Pro Halo3 tournment Next week
Post by: Prpl_Mage on September 01, 2008, 09:55:52 PM
Oh god i just had a terrible thought of what a Counter Strike tournament would be like... so horrible.... *dies*
You clearly havn't been to Sweden, there used to be LOADS of counter strike tournaments before WoW became popular.
Large warehouses were filled with computers and everyone brought their own computer and the entire place was all "WTF!" "****ing SUXXERS!" "HAXX!!!?!!?" "ZERGS!" ect. It was madness. Don't go there.

My friends have been to some guitar hero and brawl tournaments. But they only used the songs7characters ect that you got from the start. Just to make it even. Complete **** if you ask me, what's the point with a brawl tournament if you can't have a laming Sonic around? And since all my character except a few are unlockable, I wouldn't have much to say in that tournament.

Good luck though, Halo havn't been one of my most liked games though.
Title: Re: I goes to Pro Halo3 tournment Next week
Post by: fruckert on September 01, 2008, 10:08:03 PM
Yeah, good luck dude

My friends have been to some guitar hero and brawl tournaments. But they only used the songs7characters ect that you got from the start. Just to make it even. Complete **** if you ask me, what's the point with a brawl tournament if you can't have a laming Sonic around? And since all my character except a few are unlockable, I wouldn't have much to say in that tournament.

There is no point at all...none...
Title: Re: I goes to Pro Halo3 tournment Next week
Post by: Lukas on September 01, 2008, 10:25:39 PM
I happen to noes about that teeaamm! i heard i was on it...

Ps:Felix quit showing off!
i no were u live...
Title: Re: I goes to Pro Halo3 tournment Next week
Post by: ZeroKirbyX on September 02, 2008, 12:52:12 AM
Make F-Zero a game and I'll care about "pro" gaming. It's all rubbish.
Title: Re: I goes to Pro Halo3 tournment Next week
Post by: Archem on September 02, 2008, 05:16:03 AM
I dislike the idea of playing professionally, since there are so many special rules, bans, exceptions, lacking true fun, and boring gameplay. It's become too serious, and it stops being fun. They're fun to watch, and I could prob'ly do quite well for myself in a professional game tournament for most of the games that I play, but would I want to?

No.
Title: Re: I goes to Pro Halo3 tournment Next week
Post by: fruckert on September 02, 2008, 07:00:31 AM
Professional gaming would suck
Hard
Although I would love to try my hand's at a speedrunning contest in Super Metroid
That'd fun
Title: Re: I goes to Pro Halo3 tournment Next week
Post by: RuneBlade on September 02, 2008, 09:39:26 AM
Im a SSBM player, but there are noone except for my close friends that play it, and I taught them what they know so they have 0 chance of winning against me, most of us prefer it to Brawl. But there was a small Brawl tourney a while ago, so I went to check it out thinking "Hell the average brawl guy here must be totally worthless compared to an AT practicing melee player". So when I got there I didnt even sign up, the rules were 5 stock 5 minutes, that I can bear. But they only had Wiimotes, no cube controllers allowed and the oldest guy that showed up except for me was 11. I still watched the most of it, and it was all in all so bad, 50% of the matches consisted of Meta Knight spamming his neutral B against another Meta Knight that did the same.
Title: Re: I goes to Pro Halo3 tournment Next week
Post by: Meiscool-2 on September 02, 2008, 09:51:43 AM
I played using the Wii mote once as Ike and killed myself like 27594654694769 times.
Title: Re: I goes to Pro Halo3 tournment Next week
Post by: Felix-0 on September 02, 2008, 05:49:50 PM
but I like playing something that
I have a chance in >__>..and I play for fun, because I'm playing with my friends, but theres money involved
And SSBB is awesome BTW
Title: Re: I goes to Pro Halo3 tournment Next week
Post by: ZeroKirbyX on September 03, 2008, 01:16:53 AM
...How can you not use the wiimote? Hold your hands together and its like a gc controller. As far as Brawl to Melee, I prefer heated Brawl combat much more so now that they fixed so many of the old glitches. If I was playing someone and they started wavedashing I'd put the controller down and walk off. I refuse to play with a tourneyfag.
Title: Re: I goes to Pro Halo3 tournment Next week
Post by: RuneBlade on September 03, 2008, 01:27:40 AM
You would so hate me
Title: Re: I goes to Pro Halo3 tournment Next week
Post by: ZeroKirbyX on September 03, 2008, 01:51:31 AM
I'm sure I would Rune. Certain, even.
Title: Re: I goes to Pro Halo3 tournment Next week
Post by: Archem on September 03, 2008, 02:15:15 AM
Yeah, but Melee was better...
Title: Re: I goes to Pro Halo3 tournment Next week
Post by: ZeroKirbyX on September 03, 2008, 02:29:45 AM
I prefer Brawl actually :/
Title: Re: I goes to Pro Halo3 tournment Next week
Post by: Archem on September 03, 2008, 02:47:45 AM
Well, to each his/her own.
Title: Re: I goes to Pro Halo3 tournment Next week
Post by: Felix-0 on September 03, 2008, 05:54:05 PM
is it me or did this enter the "Off topic zone" (do do do do) {errie music!}
Title: Re: I goes to Pro Halo3 tournment Next week
Post by: Archem on September 03, 2008, 06:54:36 PM
Topic Shift. It's a natural occurrence/disaster.
Title: Re: I goes to Pro Halo3 tournment Next week
Post by: Meiscool-2 on September 03, 2008, 07:21:24 PM
I never saw the problem with wavedashing. My friend, a Marth player, used it all the time and that didn't save him from a ripe beating.
Title: Re: I goes to Pro Halo3 tournment Next week
Post by: Archem on September 03, 2008, 08:10:57 PM
I found it to be mildly annoying, but not in any way majorly useful. Except when people wavedash to edgehog. I hate edgehogging to a level reserved only for the Gods. In fact, I usually refuse to play against edgehoggers.
Title: Re: I goes to Pro Halo3 tournment Next week
Post by: Prpl_Mage on September 03, 2008, 09:17:20 PM
I never saw the problem with wavedashing. My friend, a Marth player, used it all the time and that didn't save him from a ripe beating.

If that happened, he didn't do it right. And fight an experienced Fox and Luigi player who know all those "fairs" and "wavedashing" ect. Now that's something that goes on your nerves.
Ever been completely spammed by Fox's reflector? No, not just holding down the stick and spamming B, I'm talking about continuesly being hit by a reflector at least 1-2 time each second once you get close to the wall. I had a friend like that, I had to force him to bring his own controllers over to my place after a while. He was going mad over all the buttons that had to be pressed.
And for mr anti-gravity, it just plain suck when a Luigi can it you with his air-smashes 3 times in a row like that.

But luck with the tourny.
Title: Re: I goes to Pro Halo3 tournment Next week
Post by: Desimodontidae on September 04, 2008, 02:16:13 AM
What's your gamertag? Mine's TehFuZz. I bet I can beat you =D
Title: Re: I goes to Pro Halo3 tournment Next week
Post by: ZeroKirbyX on September 04, 2008, 02:46:48 AM
I never saw the problem with wavedashing. My friend, a Marth player, used it all the time and that didn't save him from a ripe beating.

Its not that I won't fight them because I lose, because normally I can usually pull out a win some of the time. It's just that they're exploiting a glitch in the game and not really playing it in the way its meant to be. Its like if a game was made to be balanced, then you found out there was a glitch that would let you instantly kill your opponent. It'd just devolve into a giant match of who can do it first, ignoring the effort time and purpose that was put into the game.

It's why I like Brawl. Aside from Lucas and a few others, its pretty much balanced.
Title: Re: I goes to Pro Halo3 tournment Next week
Post by: Archem on September 04, 2008, 03:52:56 AM
Pit killed Brawl for me.
Title: Re: I goes to Pro Halo3 tournment Next week
Post by: Meiscool-2 on September 04, 2008, 05:54:08 AM
I gotta say I like Brawl more, just because of how Balanced they made the characters.

Except Lucas, which is my main character.
Title: Re: Topic switch: SSBB
Post by: Djanki on September 04, 2008, 08:40:07 PM
What about Bowser, though? How's he balanced? He weighs a ton, and requires crudloads of damage to knock off. That, and his attacks are abusive, and his final smash is nigh invincible. How the heck is any of that balanced?
Title: Re: Topic switch: SSBB
Post by: Felix-0 on September 04, 2008, 08:49:21 PM
Slow movement, slow attacks, and horrible recovery from hits, And His smash requires him to hit you...since on big stages you can run away, any experienced user would find that easy to dodge.

And Marth's Critical hit FTW
Title: Re: Topic switch: SSBB
Post by: Prpl_Mage on September 04, 2008, 09:17:04 PM
Everything is balanced as long as you know the character you're playing and the character you're fighting.

Ike= Good for beginners, one misstake from the opponent will lead to their death(A+</>).

Lucas=Good against beginners, they never know what hits them( A+^ A+V).

Snake=Good against people who got an awful memory, mines, C4, grenades, just throw them around a bit and you're bound to hit.

As for final smashes.
Bowsers: He gets huge, he gets larger range, he gets more power. But it's actually really easy to avoid all of his attacks since they become so slow. And just hanging on the edge saves your ***. Large stages+ Giga bowser= sorry.
Wario: A lot better than giga bowser if you ask me, no recovery rate after the attacks, you can jump endlessly, fart as much as you want and the bike is a pure hit n' run. Meeting someone with controll as garlic man is deadly, dodging is what saves your *** mostly and of course grabbing the edge.

Landmaster: Pain in the ***, they charge you, they do barrel rolls and shoot you. Landmasters on small stages(where the cannon takes up half the stage) is ridicolus. You better just grab the edge and stay there. They can be avoided, but ducking from the cannon won't save you from the charge. And remember that you can't dodge roll past them.

The 1hit-ko's:
Marth: If used in the air, he will dash forward a long time, so missing this will kill poor marth. If used on the ground, same rules apply but he will stop at the first edge he hits.
Ike: It's not as 1-hit ko as Marth's, large stage and a heavy character will save your arse. And for the usage, dodge rolling and jumping usually makes it miss. Makes me happy at least. It just hits a little bit in front of him anyway.
Link and toon link: It's happened a couple of times, that even if I stand behind him, I get hit. So don't. He rushes a bit forward, kinda like Ike. If you die or not is usually determined where on the stage you are, the damage and the size. I've survived a couple of times, not that common as I may wish though.
Shiek and Zelda: This, is lovely. Hits right a scross the screen, through walls and everything. Unless you got a wall behind you and are ready with the L/R button you'll probably die, you can make it though with the things mentioned above. One thing that bugs me, if two people are standing next to each other; one of them can be blasted into the other and lose speed. Makes them survive.

Well, that's enough for my "smart-*** education". I've just realised that every smash can be avoided, as long as you know what can happen. Meeting a ROB who is smart enough to taunt on the other hand can be quite annoying but I can live with it. Just hates when people get "Sympathy balls" and start with the final smash after being killed. Happens all the time when I fight Snake or Sonic.

Title: Re: Topic switch: SSBB
Post by: Archem on September 04, 2008, 09:36:14 PM
I never use the Smash Balls. I've never been a fan of insta-kill items and weapons in my games (and Final Smashes, for the most part are insta- or near-insta-kill). You either get a free kill, which isn't fun, or you get killed with no effort.
Title: Re: Topic switch: SSBB
Post by: Trueblade on September 04, 2008, 09:55:46 PM
a simple down dodge can negate 90% of all final smashes.
Title: Re: Topic switch: SSBB
Post by: Felix-0 on September 04, 2008, 09:59:53 PM
I have a video where I hit pikachu with marths final smash( pikachu did not 3d dodge duck roll ect... and was not invincible)
I run into him do the slash and nothing happens... -___-
Title: Re: Topic switch: SSBB
Post by: Meiscool-2 on September 04, 2008, 10:11:04 PM
I wouldn't say that Lucas is good against beginners... I mean, most people know Ness's moveset pretty well.

I would say that Lucas was basically an improvement on Ness. Lucas is slower and easier to fling, but his attacks have a greater range and power. Plus, gotta love the more spammable b-set moves.

Now, honestly, I find Sonic to be one of the hardest characters to fight when controlled by a human. The speed, randomness, and above all: the superior smash attack. It is basically a combo of Pikachu's and a landmaster, and it is pretty hard to survive.
Title: Re: Topic switch: SSBB
Post by: RuneBlade on September 04, 2008, 10:30:24 PM
When I for kicks pull out my Brawl disc to kick one of my buddies that prefers Brawls ***, he always plays Sonic, and the running speed can be annoying because of you cant even shieldgrab him and stuff like that. But all in all I think sonic is pretty predictable, keep your spacing decently and its all good. Works for me anyways.
Title: Re: Topic switch: SSBB
Post by: Felix-0 on September 04, 2008, 10:35:45 PM
A few of the amazing things I've done include

1: hitting a smash ball as marth while flying off the screen...then using it before I fall off and come back and kill Captain Falcon
2: In Super SD me and link waited it out till the Bom-Ombs start spawning, I get hit and het get's hit...but he goes sideways and I go into the fallback screen so he dies first
3: SSD me and ike...we sit there running around 3d dodging and blocking...so I decide to face away from him and do his speaking taunt(
BTW he says Everybody, look at me!) in Japaneses. And he does ikes charge..I counter at the last millisec to kill him
4: It's down to me and lucas, He jumps half-way off the edge and hits a smash ball. (If he got it off their was no way  I was living)
so I throw a pit fall at him and to my suprise He falls straight to his death.
Title: Re: Topic switch: SSBB
Post by: Prpl_Mage on September 04, 2008, 10:37:30 PM
I usually turn off every item, I'm sick of charging a smash attack and having a blast box spawn in front of me and that stuff. Okay, call me silly, but It've happened to me so many times during classic, all-star, bossbattles and the multi man brawls that it makes me sick.

And smash balls is usually a nono, I got a friend who always get it, most times, by luck(or pk thunder/aether/sonic snake B^) but he always get it and get like 2-6 cheap kills.

But Ness and Lucas A moves are rather different, especially the smashes that kills, while Ness uses the lame yoyo, Lucas got the force to wipe out his enemies.

But it's all about taste, I prefer Lucas myself, never liked Ness much.
It's like i used to prefer Roy over marth before I learned about the "use the tip" thingy.

And Sonic's final smash, I actually find it easier than Pikachu's, Pikachu can stop and make that "electric shock" thingy while Sonic only dashes back and forth and along the ground/walls/roof. And most people can't control Sonic's as well as Pikachus(since Pika's goes through the stage). But it's just personal taste, find it easier to dodge, Pikachu gets so friggin big.
Title: Re: Topic switch: SSBB
Post by: Archem on September 04, 2008, 11:20:10 PM
Ever since I played a game where a Smash Ball spawned within the first ten seconds, and I lost all three lives over the next thirty, I refuse to play with them on.
Title: Re: Topic switch: SSBB
Post by: Red Giant on September 04, 2008, 11:51:56 PM
I usually turn off every item, I'm sick of charging a smash attack and having a blast box spawn in front of me and that stuff. Okay, call me silly, but It've happened to me so many times during classic, all-star, bossbattles and the multi man brawls that it makes me sick.
Goddamn that is the worst thing. Played the final co-op event as Ike, bomb-omb appears mid-air LITERALLY  in the path of the arc of my sword.
Title: Re: Topic switch: SSBB
Post by: Djanki on September 05, 2008, 01:50:38 AM
a simple down dodge can negate 90% of all final smashes.

Too true, especially for Pitt. His has to be the easiest to dodge, especially in multiplayer.
Title: Re: Topic switch: SSBB
Post by: Archem on September 05, 2008, 04:57:28 AM
Too true, especially for Pitt. His has to be the easiest to dodge, especially in multiplayer.
???
Title: Re: Topic switch: SSBB
Post by: Prpl_Mage on September 05, 2008, 06:26:28 AM
Worst brawl moment:
15min brawls, me= marth.

There are 3 of them left, random bombs, spiky things, gang-bangs and meta knights got me up to 123%.
I find a ball of poke, throw it. I get the bastard Metagross. I'm thinking all "yeah, ****ing finally, will beat this crap in the end" and walks into his protection.
What happens? A bomb/goey bomb/mine/ blast box/hell even a capsule. Something explodes right above me (thanks to his earthquakes) and I died big-time.

Other moments: Trying to get the meta ridley trophy in SSE. I got my trophy stand, his health is low, just waiting for him to pass over me or at least a bit away from the edge. He does the swipe thing, there is a green shell that gets hit and slides over and hit him 0,5 secs later and he died.
Now, this might just be bad luck, but I tried so many times with it that you get kind a bored of it.

And as for Pits Final smash... I hate it because it's so random, I prefer Star storm actually, they are easier to spot and move away from if the stage isn't as broad as two meteors together.

other annoying final smashes: Snake. It shouldn't be a problem, I can counter them, but meeting my freind as snake and then give him a smash ball will result in your death. Sometimes even twice. I don't know how he does it, but he reads me like a book, knows where I'm gonna go and stuff.
Negative zone: For some reason, I'm always inflicted with "sleep", and after that, the bastard always goes near me and do the B^. Just hate it, pretty useless on a larger stage though.

Blue falcon: I actually hate avoiding this, 'cuz if you are in front of him when he presses B, you're hit. You are his even before the racer comes from the rear to bounce you into the 3d scene.'
The beast: This one is annoying, a lot. You can get hit even if you are behind the guy, just like that *wham* dies. Just trying to be near an edge is usually a good idea.

Title: Re: Topic switch: SSBB
Post by: Djanki on September 05, 2008, 11:38:33 AM
???

Pitt's Final Smash summons several cherubs that home in on enemies, right? The homing is still weak--with enough dodging, you can escape them all. With a lot of players on the screen, some will fly to one, one to another, etc. It's a mess; the cherubs just fly off screen in the general direction of one player.
Title: Re: Topic switch: SSBB
Post by: ZeroKirbyX on September 05, 2008, 03:09:44 PM
I love items on, even when they're not in my favor. I was playing my friend, I was Ike he was Snake. I'm charging at him, and the ****er fires off a Nikita. A Box appears RIGHT as I attack him, I burst it open. The box contains a soccer ball. Now, his nikita was timed somehow so that it would hit that ball right as it came out of the box. Simultaneously, a smash ball appears in the top left corner. The soccer ball flies RIGHT INTO THE SMASH BALL, GIVING SNAKE FINAL SMASH. Jaws were dropped, as neither of us could believe the insane luck and fortune that happened. I still won. It was AWESOME.
Title: Re: Topic switch: SSBB
Post by: Cerebus on September 05, 2008, 03:36:59 PM
Pitt's Final Smash summons several cherubs that home in on enemies, right? The homing is still weak--with enough dodging, you can escape them all. With a lot of players on the screen, some will fly to one, one to another, etc. It's a mess; the cherubs just fly off screen in the general direction of one player.

He was referring to the fact that you said " especially in multiplayer."
I may be wrong, but I guess Final Smash are avaiable only in multiplayer.

Never had the chance to try Brawl, I'm still stuck with Melee, but I'd really like to play it. The only thing, though, is that 3 of the characters I used aren't in this one (Dr. Mario, Mewtwo and Pichu) but I would probably get over it.
I also don't really like Final Smash, but this can be set. I would probably try them before removing them, though.
Title: Re: Topic switch: SSBB
Post by: RuneBlade on September 05, 2008, 05:32:11 PM
Does anyone have any GOOD experiences with Wifi play? All I have gotten is 1.5 sec delays on everything and that really annoys me.
Title: Re: Topic switch: SSBB
Post by: ZeroKirbyX on September 05, 2008, 06:08:57 PM
Wifi is terrible for it. Prpl and I had a few matches a couple of months back. US <-> Sweden = bad.
Title: Re: Topic switch: SSBB
Post by: Felix-0 on September 05, 2008, 06:11:19 PM
I have some
GOOD expirences with wifi...and some bad ones =/
Title: Re: Topic switch: SSBB
Post by: Prpl_Mage on September 05, 2008, 06:24:05 PM
You need a LAN adapter or something for it to run rather smoothly(as in, some delay) otherwise, expect the game to run in slo-mo and get ready to throw away all your skills 'cuz the delay is gonna make it impossible to sidesep away from attacks and such. Be ready to be brutaly beaten by pikachu's thunder spam and Ike's smash of death.

That's Wifi play unless you play with anyone, it can run "kinda good".
Title: Re: Topic switch: SSBB
Post by: Archem on September 05, 2008, 07:33:25 PM
When the Wii was in my brother's room, he'd play wi0fi a lot. I'd come in and see him playing with next to no lag. However, I've never had a lag-free experience.

And all my home's internet-related items are in my room. :\
Title: Re: Topic switch: SSBB
Post by: Meiscool-2 on September 05, 2008, 11:40:47 PM
I can't seem to play anything but timed matches online. Am I missing something?
Title: Re: Topic switch: SSBB
Post by: Cerebus on September 06, 2008, 02:43:16 AM
I can't seem to play anything but timed matches online. Am I missing something?

I heard from a firend you can only play timed matches online, which kinda sucks because it can allow players to just wait and hit the player with high damage %. I guess it's to avoid someone having to wait for other players to finish when he is KO. They could've allowed timed stock matches, though.
Title: Re: Topic switch: SSBB
Post by: Archem on September 06, 2008, 04:18:25 AM
Quick matches are timed only. Custom matches have a ton of options that you can set up.