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Off-Topic => All of all! => Topic started by: Prpl_Mage on September 06, 2008, 10:18:29 PM

Title: Earth doomed by Haldron collider?
Post by: Prpl_Mage on September 06, 2008, 10:18:29 PM
http://www.foxnews.com/wires/2008Aug07/0,4670,SwitzerlandParticleCollider,00.html

http://public.web.cern.ch/public/en/LHC/Safety-en.html

Well well, someone figured it was a good idea to create a black hole on earth... A 17 mile particle accelerator tube that will create these cosmic rays, it cost a fortune and they might create a black hole? Am I the only one having doubt if it's safe to do?

Well, I hope I'm wrong or the world will slowly dissappear on tuesday... Would be a shame.
Title: Re: Earth doomed on tuesday?
Post by: Uberpwn_w00t on September 06, 2008, 10:21:10 PM
...Niiice. Can't wait.
Title: Re: Earth doomed on tuesday?
Post by: Dragonium on September 06, 2008, 10:24:58 PM
Oh God, Large Hadron Collider stuff again.

It's meant to give a small simulation of the Big Bang. It's not going to destroy the Earth. Even if it does make a black hole, it would be so small that it would probably be able to swallow a sock at most, and it would decay within seconds. I read somewhere that even if the Sun were to suddenly turn into a black hole, we'd still be able to orbit it. It's pretty harmless. At the worst it'll destroy France and Switzerland. Win-win.

The press is full of bull. It's really nothing to be worried about, but because there is an infinitesimally small chance that it might do something dangerous, the media blew it way out of proportion. It has more chance of turning the sky into rainbow patterns and summoning dinosaurs with hats.

Sorry to rage, but I've had too much of people bawwing about it.

ITP: Facts.
Title: Re: Earth doomed on tuesday?
Post by: Uberpwn_w00t on September 06, 2008, 10:28:21 PM
Yeah, I don't watch TV, so I didn't hear about it. Pretty much figured it was bullshit though.
Title: Re: Earth doomed on tuesday?
Post by: Moosetroop11 on September 06, 2008, 10:35:51 PM
Anyone who thinks that this experiment will be that dangerous is seriously underestimating the amount of planning that these scientists have had to do.

I mean... An experiment that costly can't afford to go wrong. This thing will have been planned down to a ridiculous amount of detail.

The best part about me and Stu's posts is that if we're wrong, you won't be able to throw it in our faces :p
Title: Re: Earth doomed on tuesday?
Post by: Prpl_Mage on September 06, 2008, 10:39:37 PM
I guess you're right. I could live without France if it fails. It's just that I hope they are right about the black hole that might appear won't be able to grow.

But what if it does? That's my worry. They can't be certain since it's the first time they're doing it. And it would feel kinda lame if the black hole would grow and devour our nice planet. 
Would've expected a nuclear war or enviromental disaster to take us out and not some scientists trying to recreate big bang...
Title: Re: Earth doomed on tuesday?
Post by: coasterkrazy on September 06, 2008, 10:43:28 PM
I have an idea. Since we're all on different parts of the globe, we should make sure everyone in different areas posts here on Tuesday. I will be the northeastern US representative. :P
Title: Re: Earth doomed on tuesday?
Post by: Dragonium on September 06, 2008, 10:51:15 PM
I guess you're right. I could live without France if it fails. It's just that I hope they are right about the black hole that might appear won't be able to grow.

But what if it does? That's my worry. They can't be certain since it's the first time they're doing it. And it would feel kinda lame if the black hole would grow and devour our nice planet. 

A black hole is formed when a large object collapses in on itself. If the object is big or heavy enough, it'll collapse into something so dense it basically has infinite gravity. Generally this'll only happen if the object is freaking huge, like double the size of our Sun. There is no massive object being used in the LHC, just air particles and such. Not even the LHC is big enough to form a black hole if something goes wrong. Therefore, a black hole cannot be formed, and even if it did, it'll be tiny. Stupidly tiny.

And that, ladies and gentlemen, is why I do A-Level Physics.
Title: Re: Earth doomed on tuesday?
Post by: Archem on September 06, 2008, 10:52:03 PM
So what?
Title: Re: Earth doomed on tuesday?
Post by: zuhane on September 06, 2008, 11:14:55 PM
Owned.









Earth-wise.
Title: Re: Earth doomed on tuesday?
Post by: Moosetroop11 on September 07, 2008, 12:53:04 AM
:p They're not even going to be thinking about the destruction of the world, Lucas. They'll make sure it goes perfectly so that they get results before their equipment breaks.
Title: Re: Earth doomed on tuesday?
Post by: boozer on September 07, 2008, 01:39:00 AM
I saw a program on this today and trust me they know hat they ae doing, Do you acually think they would allow them to do an exeriment that would wipe out man kind and the planet, i highly doubt it
Title: Re: Earth doomed on tuesday?
Post by: Razor on September 07, 2008, 01:39:16 AM
As much as we'd all like to entertain the idea of the world's destruction to science, the probability of anything happening is so infinitesimally small that any sources stating that something WILL happen is just a load of alarmist propaganda.

YAY LONG SENTENCE
Title: Re: Earth doomed on tuesday?
Post by: ZeroKirbyX on September 07, 2008, 01:53:12 AM
I'm tired of the Collider doomsday stuff. The odds are so abysmally small that it doesn't matter. Black holes are STILL purely theoretical, so the odds of theoretically creating a theoretical anomaly is ridiculous.
Title: Re: Earth doomed on tuesday?
Post by: A Forgotten Legend on September 07, 2008, 02:08:10 AM
I have an idea. Since we're all on different parts of the globe, we should make sure everyone in different areas posts here on Tuesday. I will be the northeastern US representative. :P

Why do we have to live in the same area?

(Don't we live in the same state? I don't remember...)

Oh well.  I'm kinda in the same boat as prpl. I guess
Title: Re: Earth doomed on tuesday?
Post by: coasterkrazy on September 07, 2008, 02:21:09 AM
Why do we have to live in the same area?

(Don't we live in the same state? I don't remember...)

Oh well.  I'm kinda in the same boat as prpl. I guess

Haha yeah, AFL, we do live in the same state. Oh, well, we'll dual represent! By the way, wasn't it crazy having a tornado warning and all? Or are you further west PA?
Title: Re: Earth doomed on tuesday?
Post by: Archem on September 07, 2008, 02:25:20 AM
I don't know what you're suggesting, but I'm the resident Texan.
Title: Re: Earth doomed on tuesday?
Post by: ZeroKirbyX on September 07, 2008, 02:27:04 AM
I guess I'll represent Southern California :/
Title: Re: Earth doomed on tuesday?
Post by: boozer on September 07, 2008, 02:30:56 AM
Ill be representing scotland
Title: Re: Earth doomed on tuesday?
Post by: _JeT_ on September 07, 2008, 02:39:44 AM
Uhh.... Can I be the third Northeastern US Rep?

Guess my state for a cookie. Shouldn't be hard...

EDIT: The text re-sizer not working...
Title: Re: Earth doomed on tuesday?
Post by: coasterkrazy on September 07, 2008, 02:50:10 AM
Sure. I'm gonna go ahead and guess... NJ?
Title: Re: Earth doomed on tuesday?
Post by: _JeT_ on September 07, 2008, 02:58:02 AM
Well, I don't see what is so bad about it, if it destroys us, or anything similar. We are destined to meet our end, so does it really matter how, and when, it comes?

To coaster: Nope, there is a clue on this site, quite obvious when you see it. Another clue, would be... I am ashamed, and embarrassed, of this state's judicial system.
Title: Re: Earth doomed on tuesday?
Post by: A Forgotten Legend on September 07, 2008, 03:04:14 AM
uh...

NY?

I don't get the judicial reference.  Sorry.
Title: Re: Earth doomed on tuesday?
Post by: _JeT_ on September 07, 2008, 03:09:12 AM
Close, but no.

The legal system is what I meant. One, two, or three (I don't remember) years, or so, specifically...

Child molestation laws are pretty pathetic.
Title: Re: Earth doomed on tuesday?
Post by: coasterkrazy on September 07, 2008, 03:26:31 AM
MA?
Title: Re: Earth doomed on tuesday?
Post by: _JeT_ on September 07, 2008, 03:31:31 AM
No...

To keep this short... I'll tell you the location of the first clue. Just to get rid of my raging clue... (South Park reference...

The Off Topic game.

Title: Re: Earth doomed on tuesday?
Post by: coasterkrazy on September 07, 2008, 03:39:19 AM
Eh, nevermind it. This is taking up too much space.
Title: Re: Earth doomed on tuesday?
Post by: Meiscool-2 on September 07, 2008, 09:09:35 AM
A black hole would be great for getting rid of waste.
Title: Re: Earth doomed on tuesday?
Post by: X_marks_the_ed on September 07, 2008, 12:21:19 PM
(Don't we live in the same state? I don't remember...)

PA

****! I gotta get outta here! They're on my tail!
Title: Re: Earth doomed on tuesday?
Post by: Meiscool-2 on September 07, 2008, 04:47:22 PM
Sorry. I JUST read all of the first post and JUST read the most recent post and really didn't know what to figure from it.
Title: Re: Earth doomed on tuesday?
Post by: A Forgotten Legend on September 07, 2008, 06:27:09 PM
****! I gotta get outta here! They're on my tail!

!



...Well, nice to know that I wasn't the only one that heard this story.
Title: Re: Earth doomed on tuesday?
Post by: Djanki on September 08, 2008, 01:50:26 AM
If we DO die in a black hole, that means we'll be able to go through Spaghettification (i.e., stretched by gravitational forces), and Stephen Hawkings will finally be proven right...or wrong.

Eh, if we die, at least I had it coming.
Title: Re: Earth doomed on tuesday?
Post by: drenrin2120 on September 08, 2008, 01:55:57 AM
[badjokegshagfyre]A brief of history of time may be briefer than we expected =O[/badjokegshagfyre]
Title: Re: Earth doomed on tuesday?
Post by: GaryCXJk on September 08, 2008, 08:08:12 PM
To get back on the Large Hardon Collider, you have to remember that CERN practically invented the Interwebs, or at least someone who worked at CERN invented HTML and such. They basically administrate the Internet.

You can't go wrong with the administrators of Interwebz.
Title: Re: Earth doomed on tuesday?
Post by: Razor on September 09, 2008, 12:35:47 AM
To get back on the Large Hardon Collider, you have to remember that CERN practically invented the Interwebs, or at least someone who worked at CERN invented HTML and such. They basically administrate the Internet.

You can't go wrong with the administrators of Interwebz.

Have you SEEN the internet lately?
It's all trolls and porn.
Title: Re: Earth doomed on tuesday?
Post by: ZeroKirbyX on September 09, 2008, 12:52:20 AM
Trolls, porn and sexy men.
Title: Re: Earth doomed on tuesday?
Post by: Archem on September 09, 2008, 01:14:00 AM
I'm a little bit of all three.
Title: Re: Earth doomed on tuesday?
Post by: _JeT_ on September 09, 2008, 01:16:21 AM
Quote from: Razor
Have you SEEN the internet lately?
It's all trolls and porn.

And? What's so bad about that?

What else would I do on the internet?
Title: Re: Earth doomed on tuesday?
Post by: Felix-0 on September 09, 2008, 06:20:30 PM
yea...We made it through the fail
Title: Re: Earth doomed on tuesday?
Post by: Prpl_Mage on September 09, 2008, 07:10:41 PM
They moved the launch till tomorrow.

http://public.web.cern.ch/Public/Welcome.html
Title: Re: Earth doomed on tuesday?
Post by: Dragonium on September 09, 2008, 07:12:46 PM
Fun fact: tomorrow they're firing a stream of protons in one direction only. They don't start introducing protons in the opposite direction, and thus causing collisions, until mid-October.

Sorry to kill your buzz, but nothing is going to happen for a while yet.
Title: Re: Earth doomed on tuesday?
Post by: Emerates on September 09, 2008, 07:59:36 PM
Apparently the scientists working with the LHC are now recieving death threats.  That's a shame.
Title: Re: Earth doomed on tuesday?
Post by: Archem on September 09, 2008, 08:25:22 PM
Oh really? Are the senders gonna kill them after the black hole? Will they still kill them in the likely event that there's no black hole? This sounds poorly planned out.
Title: Re: Earth doomed on tuesday?
Post by: Red Fox on September 09, 2008, 08:28:50 PM
No, we're going to kill them before.
Title: Re: Earth doomed on tuesday?
Post by: coasterkrazy on September 09, 2008, 09:14:27 PM
This is all rather anti-climactic...
Title: Re: Earth doomed on tuesday?
Post by: Rayonius on September 10, 2008, 07:50:25 AM
The machine is online, and it looks like we're still alive! of course, the collision won't take place for a few weeks, so I wouldn't hold your breath.
Title: Re: Earth doomed on tuesday?
Post by: Archem on September 10, 2008, 08:58:04 AM
Whoopee. I bet nobody knows or cares about what this whole thingamy is doing. And by "nobody", I mean "95% of all people". They only care about the black hole part that the media's since spun out of control.
Title: Re: Earth doomed on tuesday?
Post by: Red Fox on September 10, 2008, 09:57:42 AM
Damn why couldn't it end today? I have to have a ****ing presentation at school :/
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Post by: boozer on September 10, 2008, 02:28:40 PM
Well there we go we all yet again survived another "Doomsday"
Title: Re: Earth doomed on tuesday?
Post by: Emerates on September 10, 2008, 05:17:58 PM
The problem with the black hole theory is that the entire particle accerlerator is a vaccuum, kept at just above absolute zero.  Even if a micro black hole to appear, it would have no matter to absorb and almost no energy about whatsoever, and would most likely collapse on itself in a matter of nano-moments.  Of course, that might attenuate the whole 'reality' and 'space-time' thing, but I wouldn't worry about that too much.  Most likely, that would only make things better, like if the place started flooding with gasoline.  Or uranium.  Idunno, that last part was actually bullshit.

BTW, thanks you Archem for actually responding to one of my posts.  That just doesn't seem to happen much anymore.
Title: Re: Earth doomed on tuesday?
Post by: Archem on September 10, 2008, 07:43:15 PM
You're welcome?
Title: Re: Earth doomed on tuesday?
Post by: coasterkrazy on September 19, 2008, 03:40:46 AM
Hey, guess what guys?

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080918/ap_on_re_eu/eu_big_bang
Title: Re: Earth doomed on tuesday?
Post by: Archem on September 19, 2008, 03:44:18 AM
Wow, that sucks.
Title: Re: Earth doomed by Haldron collider?
Post by: Archem on September 19, 2008, 05:01:15 PM
"In the name of science" is not a phrase you acknowledge, is it?
Title: Re: Earth doomed by Haldron collider?
Post by: Felix-0 on September 19, 2008, 05:46:07 PM
lets hope it destroies france only >__<[/s]

Oops...I thought this was a new topic..not a renamed one!
 :eyes:
Title: Re: Earth doomed by Haldron collider?
Post by: Dragonium on September 19, 2008, 05:56:12 PM
Introducing, from two weeks ago - Felix! *Applause*
Title: Re: Earth doomed by Haldron collider?
Post by: Felix-0 on September 19, 2008, 05:59:45 PM
what did I do wrong THIS time

Nva mind....

I honestly think a black hole is improbable....BUT they theriosed(mispell) that
IF(big if) a black hole would be made it would take around 4 years to swallow the earth

Year 2008+4=2012(which = The Predicted end of the world)