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Off-Topic => All of all! => Topic started by: Drace on October 22, 2008, 08:55:21 AM
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This thread is made by Drace Phoenix and it is thus, highly possible, contains loads of spoilers. This is a spoiler warning.
We all know that this has been a big topic in gaming history. Games based on movies mostly suck and the effect is the same if you turn it around. But between all those little ****-ups and mistakes are a few videogame based movies that stand out. Which have you seen that suck and which have you seen that rule?
Suck
I do not need to comment on House of the Dead, but Alone in the Dark is also magnificent example of what can go wrong in a movie. I will not discuss this in great details right now, but I can tell you that it is bad.
When I look back at my childhood, there has been one fighting game I loved the most. To me, it made my Sega Genesis more awesome than it already was. The game I am talking about, of course, is Street Fighter. But on how good a game it was equals to how bad the movie based on it was. Again, not going into details. That Guy With the Glasses already did it so it's pointless to do it myself. (http://thatguywiththeglasses.com/videolinks/thatguywiththeglasses/nostalgia-critic/48-street-fighter-the-movie-review)
Rule
The ones that do rule for me, are quite a lot though. I think I have a habbit of picking the good.
Sure, they're not perfect and do not really follow the main plot. But to me, this was a trilogy of zombie madness that fulfilled my dreams of what a videogame based movie should be. I am, of course, talking about Resident Evil. Sure, the second one was the worst, but the third made it all better really fast. This is a trilogy I would recommend to anyone who have played the games and can put their fanboyish self aside to watch it as a stand-alone movie.
When thinking back of my childhood, but stepping up a little further from Street Fighter, I come across a fighting game that is so violent that all the kids wanted to play it. This is, of course, Mortal Kombat. Now I have not seen the second movie or the television series, but what I do know is that the first Mortal Kombat movie was one that entertained me. Sure, I haven't seen it in six years, but my childhood says it was good.
Doom. Nothing much to say. It wasn't that good. It had no demons, instead a virus. But it still had a little appeal to me. I... actually enjoyed it. I won't say this is THE rule movie, it is on the edge. But I can't remember being all that angry at it besides the monster origin part and The Rock.
While the above movie have no order at all, this is still the one that I saw and is on the top. Not only did it actually FOLLOW the plot of the actual videogame. Sure, a different parts, but I don't care. It also included awesome CGI, acting and actually scared me a few times in the cinema. I'm a sucker for loud noises =P. Silent Hill. It is THE best videogame based movie out there at the moment.
Other stuff
It's a shame I did not have the change to watch recent videogamebased movies. Though I think I am not missing that much. If someone did see Far Cry, Postal, Hitman or Max Payne, please comment.
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My friend said hitman is awesome...As for me, I have every single videogame based movie, because they always suck. And superhero movies too, because they're idiotic. Except for the last Batman.
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Why is this just about bad videogame-based movies?
I'd say that the movie-based videogames are a lot worse. At least, that's my point of view.
And btw, Tomb Raider. I'd say they actually made that movie work.
Sure, there were no dark creatures (except in the second one) and you had Angelina as Lara croft. But hey, good luck finding a real woman who can do all those stunts that Lara does, have enormous breats and also speak with that accent.
The story of the movies themselves were okay; considering what the games are about. So yeah, that one was good, but not quite "OMG awesome!".
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As for me, I have every single videogame based movie, because they always suck.
...I'm going to assume you meant "hate"
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Yeah, they all suck.
Well, that recent Final Fantasy one was pretty neat...
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D'oh, forgot those. I actually liked both Final Fantasy movies.
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I personally think that as long as Uwe Boll, or however the hell you spell his name, stay's the **** away from the project, it has potential
And my personal favorite Video Game movies are the Resident Evil movies, Silent Hill (I daresay that's one of my favorite movies ever), and the Final Fantasy movies
Drace, I'm going to have to disagree with you on Doom, but that's kind of because I think they messed up the source material too much
The movie itself is okay, but not terrific, and I don't like how the demons got cut out of it
On another related topic:
What do you think about movies based off of books?
A prime example of what not to do is Eragon
They cut out alot of important stuff, the acting blew, and it was rushed
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I think the first Harry potter film was a fantastic example of how to turn a book into a film. No matter whether you enjoyed it or not, it represented the book so damn well.
Advent children was horrible for the type of FF7 fan I am... It totally raped it. The annoying "Sephiroth and vincent should have babies" crowd loved it, though.
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How about the Super Mario Bros. movie? Ugh, what a horrible movie that was...
(http://img72.imageshack.us/img72/866/supermariobrosthemovieev6.jpg)
Just... no.
The guy on the far right is Bowser, by the way.
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...I'm going to assume you meant "hate"
You can proceed on that line of thinking.
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Drace, I'm going to have to disagree with you on Doom, but that's kind of because I think they messed up the source material too much
The movie itself is okay, but not terrific, and I don't like how the demons got cut out of it
I know, I know. That's why I said it barely is holding on the edge. But you have to see me as someone who can take a movie out of something else. I can watch a movie stand alone from a game or a book, and in that part Doom was slightly entertainable. Now, if they got the facts straight, it would've been ok. But like I said, barely on the edge.
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Completely agree with the fact that the movie itself was entertaining, just that I wouldn't consider it "Doom"
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Anyone know who's directing the upcoming Halo movie? Also, another Street Fighter movie is in the works. It looks as though it won't be a complete peice of crap, at least Uwe isn't involved.
We can't forget Bloodrayne. That movie sucked beyond anything else I've seen. The old Street Fighter movie wasn't too bad, it just didn't really follow any part of the games. I would say just like Doom, it was entertaining, but not over the top.
Also, here's a list of 10 movies that are based on video games that have been released and that are in the works:
1. The Sims (I have no Idea how that's gonna work)
2. Area 51
3. Hitman (Already out)
4. Metriod
5. Max Payne (Already out)
6. Castlevania
7. The new Street Fighter movie
8. World of Warcraft (WTF)
9. Resident Evil: Extinction (Already out)
10. Halo
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Area 51 isn't just a game though... unless the movie only follow what's on the game, but from what I saw, not a lot of video game movies do this.
That WoW movie will probably suck in some way because I'm sure it will be only Alliance related like that South Park episode... although I did like that episode.
And, well, Resident Evil movies are quite good, but I'd prefer if they actually followed the video game history.
...also, Sims movie!? I wonder what it'll look like... because, well, basically, Sims is just normal life family. Unless they add the force controlling them, and preventing them to go to the bathroom and such. And I sure hope they won't talk like they do in the game.
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Maybe a Sims movie would be based off of those story based ones, like the Urbz: Sims in the City. It may work, but it would take a helluva good script, and director.
Also, I thought the Metroid movie idea was pulled.
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Oh yeah, maybe. Or Bustin' out. But it would still need the mysterious force controlling them. Else, it wouldn't be a Sims!
I do hope if that Metroid movie comes out, they won't add some love story and such...
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No Metroid movie. There's no way it can be good, so don't ruin my Metroid for stupid money.
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Agreed
The closest story that Metroid has had was in Prime, and it sucked
Plus think of how boring the movie would be
"Oh, whats that? OMG ITS A MISSLE TANK!"
"OMFG PLASMA BEAM"
'OMFG ANOTHER ITEM! THATS THE 306TH IN 2 HOURS!"
Ugh
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Well I don't think that's how it would be. For exemple, in Resident Evil, they don't cure themselves with some random plant they find on the ground, or some First Aid Spray. There's no wandering demon vendor who keep weapons inside his coat to sell them to whoever he come across. There's not so much puzzles to solve, too. And in FF7, they don't wander around killing monsters to get stronger and defeat Sephirot... I think.
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Good point
But there still isn't enough story in the source material, save from the Prime games, to build up a good movie
The most story, in all of the actual Metroid games, is this-
Pirates killed my parents
Go find stuff to kill them
Blow up base
Metroids are dangerous
Go kill Metroids
Find baby
Bring baby to ship
Baby get's stolen
Go get stuff to save baby
Find more pirates
Kill pirates
Blow up planet
Yay
Definitely not enough to keep an engaging movie
Most of Metroids charm is from exploring a world that you technically have full access to, and finding more tools to help you explore the world
Translating that into a fixed story is nearly impossible, without it sucking uber hard core
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Well, Lord of the Rings is basically
Ring is evil
Go destroy it
And they made a heckload of it.
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...I actually LIKED the Mario Bros. Movie...Leguizamo was funny....
...to each his own, I suppose. It's not easy to take the acid-trip-world of Mario and make it live-action, mind...
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Saw Max Payne a few days ago, it was IMO not bad as a movie, but according to a friend who played the game around 321318 times, wasnt related to the game stories. He said something like the names of prota/antagonists were the same, not counting Max ofc.
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Saw Max Payne a few days ago, it was IMO not bad as a movie, but according to a friend who played the game around 321318 times, wasnt related to the game stories. He said something like the names of prota/antagonists were the same, not counting Max ofc.
I never played Max Payne, but it always looked like some sort of dark and gritty noir-mafia-game. The movie looks really....supernatural...
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I liked Doom. Max Payne fuckin blows.
Halo movie = bad idea, though.
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Max Payne wasn't all that terrible. It could've been better, but it could've been much worse.
As for other video game movies, I like Silent Hill, Mortal Kombat, DOA: Dead or Alive, Resident Evil (only the first one), and Advent Children.
I hated Super Mario Bros., Doom, Street Fighter, the second Mortal Kombat, the second Resident Evil.
I'm looking forward to Street Fighter: The Legend of Chun-Li...It has to at least be better than that first SF movie, right?
Oh, and I haven't seen any of Uwe Boll's movies, nor do I ever plan to. I also haven't seen that Double Dragon movie they made back in the day, but I've heard conflicting reports on whether it's any good....
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Well, Lord of the Rings is basically
Ring is evil
Go destroy it
And they made a heckload of it.
True, true. Lord of the Rings is not a complex story because it's really easy to see who is evil and who is good.
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Passion of the Christ was a pretty good VG-Based movie...
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True, true. Lord of the Rings is not a complex story because it's really easy to see who is evil and who is good.
I didn't say that.
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I didn't say that.
It's still true though, in my opinion.
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Agreed
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[...]Metroid [...] Prime [...] sucked
*tightening grip around neck* What was that? I couldn't hear you ever the sound of you choking to death.
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*tightening grip around neck* What was that? I couldn't hear you ever the sound of you choking to death.
I said the story sucked
The game kicked ***, it's one of my all time favs
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Haha... Yeah, pardon my anger-inducing skimming skills.
However, I was fine with the story. It wasn't all that much different from the rest of the series.
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Metroid's story is rad.
But if they decide to make a movie(god forbid) they better make it like advent child. Animated, FMV style. Real actors would ruin it. Good luck adding a samus vs ridley without it looking crap.
And if they do, they better give her a sidekick who speaks for her, samus talking= no no.
We all saw what happened when Link spoke(I'm looking at you Zelda the cartoon and CDI).
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How was the lord of the rings plot simple? As well as telling the story it fleshed out an entire world and detailed history. There was so much going on that they had to cut out tons of it for the films and only concentrate on the main points 0_o
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We all saw what happened when Link spoke(I'm looking at you Zelda the cartoon and CDI).
Oh, don't remind me.
You know, I'm suddenly reminded of that false live-action Evangelion trailer they made. A friend of mine fell for it, hard. He still thinks it's gonna come out!
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Oh, boy! I'm so hungry, I could eat a Pizza (that I'm cooking right now).
Excuuuuuuuuuuuse me for a moment, guys....^_^
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And if they do, they better give her a sidekick who speaks for her, samus talking= no no.
Doesn't she actually speak sometime in Metroid Fusion? Sure, it's texts, but it's still speaking. She also speak in Super Metroid and Metroid: Zero Mission, but only like at start and such.
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On the subject:
http://thatguywiththeglasses.com/videolinks/thatguywiththeglasses/nostalgia-critic/2294-double-dragon
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I thought Samus spoke in the prologue of Super Metroid. I could be mistaken, though...it's been forever since I've played it.
I'd still like to watch Double Dragon, though. Some guy who has the audacity to diss Mortal Kombat is clearly talking out of his ***.
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Yeah, she talks in the form of report logs and inner monologues, she never has dialogue.
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Well, we have a few grunts and screams to go by, and a live-action movie would blow, so if they did a quality CGI movie using the same voice actress they've used in the past (or one of them, since I'm not sure if there's been more than one), and they had a plot that wasn't "Oh no! Mother Brain again somehow!", or an adaption of one of the games (i.e. something new and able to be condensed into a two hour film), then all would be awesome.
Not terrible puns or Samus using the action movie lines like "Chill out" after Ice Beaming someone. DOn't recall what those are called, but they must be forbidden.
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1st time spoken here!
I myself, really do not like Video game based movies if I try to base them of of the game itself.
Take FF Spirits within, trying to call THAT FF fails, but the movie itself was good
Resident Evil series was good though I wish they worked better on Extinction
Silent hill was Amazing, but it lefty flipped the story line, making the mom look for the daughter, not her father.
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1st time spoken here!
I myself, really do not like Video game based movies if I try to base them of of the game itself.
Take FF Spirits within, trying to call THAT FF fails, but the movie itself was good
Resident Evil series was good though I wish they worked better on Extinction
Silent hill was Amazing, but it lefty flipped the story line, making the mom look for the daughter, not her father.
Funny thing is, people wanted a movie that was based on an exisiting Final Fantasy game. Did it not cross their minds that Final Fantasy created a new story for every game that game before the movie? Bad Final Fantasy fans, bad. You deserve a stick being smacked on your head.
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Yeah, she talks in the form of report logs and inner monologues, she never has dialogue.
Not true. In Metroid Fusion, she talks to the computer, Adam. I know, for I have defeated that game prior to this thread.
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Not true. In Metroid Fusion, she talks to the computer, Adam. I know, for I have defeated that game prior to this thread.
So have I but I didn't remember direct speech. I remember Adam barking orders and her thinking in the elevators, but maybe I'm just spacing. If she does then that's the only dialogue in the series.
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Funny thing is, people wanted a movie that was based on an exisiting Final Fantasy game. Did it not cross their minds that Final Fantasy created a new story for every game that game before the movie? Bad Final Fantasy fans, bad. You deserve a stick being smacked on your head.
Ooops I really didin't mean storyline I mean basic FF stuff, like magic, summons, chocobo, moogles, stuff like that
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They could make a movie with the main character not talking all the way, but comunicating by pointing stuff or nodding.
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I want an F-Zero movie. I never did for a long while for fear of ruining, but when I saw Speed Racer, I immediately thought "This is how an F-Zero movie should be," and pictured Emile Hersch as Cpt. Falcon the whole time.
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I want a Suikoden movie...but I don't think that anyone got the money to get such number of artists...On a second thought, they'd need about 10 main people and 98 unknown and badly paid people...
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They could make a movie with the main character not talking all the way, but comunicating by pointing stuff or nodding.
With other words, take the movie Nosferatu and rename it Castlevania.
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Well, Zelda and Metroid would work in a movie like Daft Punk's Interstella 555. Well, they didn't make the actuall animations or stuff but they made the only sounds used in that movie.
That proves that you can have a movie without dialouge and such.
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No Zelda. That can never be a movie. Ever.
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No, it didn't. It was sinful.
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No, it didn't. It was sinful.
Well, excuuuuse me Archem, I sort of, kinda, liked it... Well, not really, but the Captain N episode of it wasn't that bad.
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I want a Final Fight movie. Seriously, it could work. Sure, it wouldn't be oscar material or anything, but if they did it right, it would be a whole lot of fun.
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DMC baby!
ANY of those would be rich ground for a movie, especially #3
And as long as Mr. Boll (that is his name isn't it?) didn't touch it, it has a chance at working wonderfully
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DMC baby!
Run?
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Mi scusi?
I don't understand
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Run-DMC. Pardon my awkward use of words.
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Okay?
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Run-DMC was a Hip-Hop group, according to Wikipedia.
I guess you actually meant Devil May Cry..?
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He placed a quarter and his order
Small fries
BIG MAC
You be illin'
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I guess you actually meant Devil May Cry..?
that I did
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wow... You dont know who Run Dmc is??
Any the Double Dragon movie was good imo
I love the first mortal kombat and the mario bros movie...
uhh max payne was ok... i feel alseep on it soo xD ( i have played both games )
hitman blew...
never saw and dont want to see DOA...
never saw street fighter but meh i'll live...
Now NINJA TURTLES was the ****
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Ninja turtles isn't based on a videogame. That's like saying that transformers and batman was as well.
And nothing can beat the overpowered awesomeness of the Ultimate mortal kombat 3 bots, they kick your *** even on very easy if they are given the sapce. A lot better than the AI of tosday's fighting games.
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Ninja Turtles was based on a comic book, so it would be better to compare it to the likes of The Hulk or X-Men.
By the way, remember Wing Commander? That one was....watchable, at least.
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I meant the movies made after the games...???