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Off-Topic => All of all! => Topic started by: X_marks_the_ed on February 09, 2009, 01:58:58 AM

Title: Belonging in a plot that does not belong to begin with.
Post by: X_marks_the_ed on February 09, 2009, 01:58:58 AM
As some of you may know, I draw a comic in my spare time. One that already stretches common belief of heaven and hell. The few that read it daily are well aware of this and find it the source of the entire comic: that maybe they run in a unified system. But recently, I added a character that not many find true to it.

The character is the daughter of Satan. Now after having a robot made entirely of Nintendo consoles, a skeleton mimicking Dan Balan, and monocles that fire massive lasers, I thought this new addition would go over without any problems. However, I'm getting a lot of "Do you think god would allow Satan to?", "Who is the mother? Who would have a child with Satan himself?", and "Are you trying to make this comic emo?"

In the comic, the common ideal of Satan is merely that of the first Satan, and all predecessors did not see his ways. Because, once you think about, Satan would not voluntarily punish the damned if he were as damned as any of them. So, he ran off, and a new 'Satan' was chosen. From then on, old Satans retired and gave way to new ones. (To be honest, God is the only being in the comic that always held his position.) The system gave way and the Heaven/Hell pact was set up, but that's describing more than I need to. This is all to set up the parodies of human life and pop culture the comic uses.

Now, this thread is not debate the concept, but rather if a character such as Satan's twisted, manipulative, evil, daughter belongs in a world such as this. Amongst the empty faces of a bored Death and friend, a persistently happy angel, and an easily tempered demon.
Title: Re: Belonging in a plot that does not belong to begin with.
Post by: Drace on February 09, 2009, 05:30:55 PM
I read up tp the first sentance of the second paragraph and I already don't want to read it. "Robot made out of nintendo consoles"... *cough*Ctrl*cough*Alt*cough*Del*cough*
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Post by: X_marks_the_ed on February 09, 2009, 10:51:37 PM
I read up tp the first sentance of the second paragraph and I already don't want to read it. "Robot made out of nintendo consoles"... *cough*Ctrl*cough*Alt*cough*Del*cough*

Yes, Drace, because I have nothing better to do than copy ideas onto a comic. Especially from a comic I have yet to read.
Title: Re: Belonging in a plot that does not belong to begin with.
Post by: Drace on February 09, 2009, 10:54:24 PM
Yes, Drace, because I have nothing better to do than copy ideas onto a comic. Especially a comic I have yet to read.

Some people try to make a living with plagerism. For all I know, you could be searching down each and every webcomic and comic to try to steal ideas.
Title: Re: Belonging in a plot that does not belong to begin with.
Post by: X_marks_the_ed on February 09, 2009, 11:05:34 PM
(http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c268/X_marks_the_ed/Doesnotequal.png)
Title: Re: Belonging in a plot that does not belong to begin with.
Post by: Musha on February 09, 2009, 11:06:08 PM
Satan has a daughter in Milton's 'Paradise Lost'. Her name is Sin.
Title: Re: Belonging in a plot that does not belong to begin with.
Post by: Drace on February 09, 2009, 11:07:47 PM
Weebot is so not like that one robot.

Also, Drace. You are a phoenix. Are you the first one to ever think of a phoenix? I dont think so.

I never said I'm a Phoenix, thus making your comeback a fail.
Title: Re: Belonging in a plot that does not belong to begin with.
Post by: Archem on February 09, 2009, 11:08:21 PM
Satan has a daughter in Milton's 'Paradise Lost'. Her name is Sin.
What about Lucy? The Daughter of the Devil?
Title: Re: Belonging in a plot that does not belong to begin with.
Post by: Musha on February 09, 2009, 11:10:57 PM
In Paradise Lost, Satan commits incest with Sin, resulting in the birth of Death.  Yep, this is some great literature here, folks.
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Post by: Drace on February 09, 2009, 11:13:34 PM
Damn Satan with his incest. *shakes fist*
Title: Re: Belonging in a plot that does not belong to begin with.
Post by: Musha on February 09, 2009, 11:19:22 PM
Also, Sin doesn't have a mother.  She was born out of Satan's head.
Title: Re: Belonging in a plot that does not belong to begin with.
Post by: Drace on February 09, 2009, 11:24:48 PM
Also, Sin doesn't have a mother.  She was born out of Satan's head.

Did it explode?
Title: Re: Belonging in a plot that does not belong to begin with.
Post by: Musha on February 09, 2009, 11:26:57 PM
Did it explode?

Nope, she just popped out.
Title: Re: Belonging in a plot that does not belong to begin with.
Post by: Drace on February 09, 2009, 11:37:21 PM
Nope, she just popped out.

Weird. Can you describe the scene in more details?
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Post by: Red Fox on February 09, 2009, 11:42:32 PM
Are you sure it wasn't a big gory explosion? That would be so hot.
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Post by: Musha on February 10, 2009, 03:21:29 AM
Weird. Can you describe the scene in more details?

Well, he's actually described as giving birth to Sin with a burst of flame from his forehead.

Sin herself recounts her birth and subsequent impregnation like so:

"All on a sudden miserable pain
Surprised thee, dim thine eyes and dizzy swum
In darkness, while thy head flames thick and fast
Threw forth, till on the left side opening wide,
Likest to thee in shape and countenance bright,
Then shining heavenly fair, a goddess armed,
Out of thy head I sprung. Amazement seized
All th' host of Heaven; back they recoiled afraid
At first, and called me Sin, and for a sign
Portentous held me; but, familiar grown,
I pleased, and with attractive graces won
The most averse—thee chiefly, who, full oft
Thyself in me thy perfect image viewing,
Becam'st enamoured; and such joy thou took'st
With me in secret that my womb conceived
A growing burden."

           -- From Paradise Lost (1674) Book II

So, yeah.  Sounds like it hurt....
Title: Re: Belonging in a plot that does not belong to begin with.
Post by: fruckert on February 10, 2009, 03:22:19 AM
Neato
Never thought of something like that happening
Title: Re: Belonging in a plot that does not belong to begin with.
Post by: Musha on February 11, 2009, 05:15:19 AM
Neato
Never thought of something like that happening
That's why you're not Milton...lol
Actually, Paradise Lost is quite an interesting read, if the "classical" dialect and religious themes don't bother you...Same with 'The Inferno' by Dante.  You'd be surprised with the sort of things Christian Authors used to write about back in the day.
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Post by: fruckert on February 11, 2009, 05:21:07 AM
Always wanted to read The Inferno
I'll do it later though

Right now I'm watching eggs get thrown into a microwave
Title: Re: Belonging in a plot that does not belong to begin with.
Post by: Drace on February 11, 2009, 11:04:45 AM
Bought The Inferno a while ago. Need to get used to the writing style, but so far in (Canto 7? I think I'm reading that next) I'm enjoying it.
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Post by: Dominicy on February 11, 2009, 03:46:55 PM
I read some of The Inferno some time ago.  People being dragged through their own feces or something.  Was a LONG time ago, maybe it made more sense at the time.
Title: Re: Belonging in a plot that does not belong to begin with.
Post by: Musha on February 16, 2009, 02:50:02 PM
Heh. I actually own a copy of "The Inferno" which I started reading, but never got around to finishing it.  It's...an interesting take on Hell, to say the least.  Heads sewn on backwards, burining eternally in open coffins....great stuff.
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Post by: drenrin2120 on February 16, 2009, 07:28:41 PM
Gotta love them ancient scare tactics!