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Off-Topic => All of all! => Topic started by: Fisherson on February 18, 2009, 10:41:44 PM
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Hey, guys. Well it's that time, time to get a new computer and i'd like your help with somthing. You see latley i've eard alot of bad things about Windows Vista, and I've been wondering: Is it realy the best? Also I could use a little bit of help deciding inbetween the three diffrent models i'm looking at. They are..
Dell Vostro 200
Dell Vostro 220
Dell Optiplex 360
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Vista isn't really as bad as everyone makes out.
Imagine you leave your bedroom, and when you get back to it it's been rearranged and tidied, so nothing is where you left it but at least everything looks nice. Also there is a bouncer at the door who stops and searches everyone who tries to enter, including you. That's what Vista is like.
Also I'd recommend avoiding Dell. Shocking reliability.
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Vista is more for the looks. XP works better in practise, at least for me.
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Vista's okay
Not the best windows, but it's okay
And Drag's explanation is one of the best of Vista that I've heard
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Vista is really crappy if your machine has no power.
I had an AcerAspire3690 that came with Vista Home Basic, I upgraded to premium.
Thed machine had like 512ram or some junk. It had a single lonely processor, and a shitty graphics card I had a frustrating time using any windows functions. Multiple Applications running at the same time would lag and such.
About a month ago I got a refurbished Gateway FX gaming machine. It came with Home premium.
I havent gotten around to switching from Norton to something that isnt a resource hog yet...but it hasnt affected anything.
Now I can take advantage of some more of the vista do-dads i couldnt before and make a non biassed judgement call
Vista is Decent. XP was more practical for the PC devotee, but if youre running it on a good machine, then its fine.
Some of the Machine specific factory bloatware for vista is a bit heavy, and some people just arent smart enough to change windows settings around for it to run how you want it to.
If your dislike simply comes from a fear of change and properly figuring out the minute differences in Interface, then you can just change your settings so that it works like XP
I wouldnt get too attached to any OS though, things are moving forward at a stupid rate...its all about delivering new product to the consumer, and by the time many of you are working adult consumers, youre gonna have so much awesome
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keep to xp i have Vista and all my new games like the sattlers rise of an empire does
works on ok my window xp it to old for that game the way you can get around this is use you usb hard drive so you can save the game files then i move the driver to my new Vista pc and it work ok for me know
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I wouldn't bother holding out for Windows 7 either. If you've got a nice chunk of cash, I'd just drop it on an Apple and install XP on it, great machine power and when you realize that OSX is superior in every way, all you'll have to do is boot up differently.
A hacked version of XP can be downloaded in an hour at most via torrent, so whatever you decide on, you always have that option. I've never partitioned and installed a separate OS through windows, but it's easy as pie on Mac.
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Have you seen my sig? Based on a true story, courtesy of Fista. It does many annoying and mostly pointless things, such as interrupting all running applications to restart your computer to install 'upgrades'.
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Those upgrade things suck
I told it to wait for 4 hours
Reminded me in 10 minutes
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more things you can change to suit your needs.
I dont get interrupted for upgrades....because i told the computer not to.
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Pros-
1. Like effing Fort Knox security-wise.
2. Looks fantastic.
3. Gadgets.
4. Latest Direct X versions for hardcore gamers.
5. The "search" function saves you years finding things.
Cons-
1. Like effing Fort Knox security-wise. (yeah, it gets rather annoying)
2. Icons can sometimes rearrange themselves in a ridiculous way and make no sense
and have no reasoning behind it.
3. The "search" function saves you years finding things. But the security popups
probably take that time back off you.
4. MANY, MANY programs I've tried crash a lot, don't work properly or just simply won't
open. I can't get RPG Maker 2000 to work on Vista, but 2003 works great. If you're big on
freeware/retro games, prepare to get disappointed now and again.
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i-already-posted-this-elsewhere-but-ill-post-it-again.
vista-sucks-balls
1-deleted-the-rtp-to-2k3
2-any-c&c-before-3-wont-run
3-most-retro-games-wont-run
4-security-popups-happen-twice-a-page
also-im-not-using-space-key-because-it-isnt-working-gonna-look-into-that-later
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Imagine you leave your bedroom, and when you get back to it it's been rearranged and tidied, so nothing is where you left it but at least everything looks nice. Also there is a bouncer at the door who stops and searches everyone who tries to enter, including you. That's what Vista is like.
That is possibly the greatest analogy I have ever heard for Vista.
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I'm getting used to vista. I admit I was probably happier with XP, but vista's pretty natural to me and on the most part it doesn't annoy me.
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Vista can't handle any recent games with music on in the background.
It can also occasionally freeze while people are contacting you on msn - and you're playing something.
Vista can't show GIF animations correctly.
Old games don't work properly on Vista. Like worms, Monkey island and so on.
Vista doesn't really work well with Hamachi so you and your buddies' LAN weekend can get very complicated if you are supposed to host.
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What about emulators and RM2k3 made games? Any trouble there? I'm thinking about reinstaling my emulators after I check out what they have availible in ROMs now. Hopfuly the've translated Romacing Saga (SNES), that looked so good and then when I finaly got one it was all in japanese :(
Anyway back on topic. From what you guys have said it sounds like Vista is okay and probly my only option right now since all the cheap computers i'm looking at have it.
Hey! I have my old XP disc, couldn't I use that to install XP on my new computer? Or will that not work?
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Vista can't handle any recent games with music on in the background.
It can also occasionally freeze while people are contacting you on msn - and you're playing something.
Vista can't show GIF animations correctly.
Old games don't work properly on Vista. Like worms, Monkey island and so on.
Vista doesn't really work well with Hamachi so you and your buddies' LAN weekend can get very complicated if you are supposed to host.
Something must be wrong with your computer, all of that works fine on my computer
Emulators work fine on my Vista
And I personally don't know about the XP installation, as I am not a computer guru, despite what my family thinks
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Vista was more to impress people with these new features, while not really enhancing any of the old ones.
I like XP, I find it slightly faster, but I feel disorganized.
Vista makes me feel more ... better, but it also feels a bit slower.
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Think of Vista as a beautiful, stunning girl. But imagine that the girl has severe learning difficulties.
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Vista can't show GIF animations correctly.
Lies and slander.
Seriously though, I'm pretty sure it depends on what you're using to view the GIF.
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i tried with ms paint but it wasnt animated =~~(
Good point! I noticed that, too.
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I honestly forgot that MSPaint existed, due to the fact that I never use it...so correct me if I'm wrong, but can't Paint not view gifs as an animation?
I quite honestly forgot if paint can use layers
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You guys best be trolling.
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I see you trolling, this thread now, why don't you show some tits or gtfo.
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Vista is cool. I like it.
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I honestly forgot that MSPaint existed, due to the fact that I never use it...so correct me if I'm wrong, but can't Paint not view gifs as an animation?
I quite honestly forgot if paint can use layers
No it can't. That's why I use game maker to animate my drawings and stuff. Okay i'm down to two computers now
Vostro 220 and the Optiplex 360. The first one (the Vostro 220) is only 349$ and comes with Vista and the other one (the Optiplex) wich comes with windows XP profesional.
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I personally like Vista. Don't know why. I just do.
I do like that the zoom feature in it's ms paint though. =D
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Oh and Sound Recorder is rubbish on Vista. I had to download seperate voice recording software. They've removed all the functions... God knows why.
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Oh and Sound Recorder is rubbish on Vista. I had to download seperate voice recording software. They've removed all the functions... God knows why.
This is very true, although to be fair nobody who wants to record sound uses Sound Recorder anyway.
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To clear things up:
The basic (double click a BMP/PNG/JPEG file) program in Vista does not show an animation.
It simply show the first "page". (Windows photogallery or someshit).
To see an animated GIF you need to open the file with Media player.
And if the background is transparent: you will see all the other poses underneath the current one.
So it's all just a blur.
So really see an animation like it's supposed to be on Vista you need to use IE or Irfnaview. At least for me.
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And Media player+World of Warcraft= freeze.
Sometimes it happens. Sometimes it don't.
Media player loads so friggin slow on vista that it's breaking my balls in two. And once i get it working, the computer freezes with any demanding full screen game.
Oh yeah. My Vista can't handle RPGM2k3 in full screen either. It's just a black screen. I need to play by pressing F4 at the menu and get like ½ screen.
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I got vista with my new computer, because I had no choice. I really wanted to keep XP - I was rather used to it - but my old computer was as fried as fried can be, so I really needed a new one.
I can't say I'm the biggest fan of Vista, but I have no problems. It's okay.
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Nevermind about vista, I got XP instaled in my new computer by negotiating. :D