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Game Creation => Requests => Topic started by: SaiKar on April 06, 2009, 06:08:27 PM

Title: REQUEST FORUM UNDER MARTIAL LAW
Post by: SaiKar on April 06, 2009, 06:08:27 PM
Man, the requests forum finally gets up and running nicely again and you 'tards have to muck it up with your trolling nonsense. I've been trying to be the good cop and keep thing civil without threats, but nooooooo. This is why you can't have nice things! So, since apparently nobody respects anything but force, I shall use force.

From this point onwards, the Requests forum is under martial law.

1) Anyone trolling threads in this forum shall be in violation of the martial law.

2) Anyone posting multiple requests threads for the same request shall be in violation of the martial law.

The penalty for violating martial law is a one-day ban.

I know who the good people in this forum are, the people that are asking and answering requests politely without causing trouble. Those people have nothing to fear.

There is no appeal process. The moderators are your judge, jury, and executioner.

This policy shall continue as long as it needs to. Hopefully won't be very long before I make my point. It will be reversed after that if the forum calms down on good faith.

This is your first, last, and only warning. No private messages shall be sent. Just ban.

Try me. Come on, do it!
Title: Re: REQUEST FORUM UNDER MARTIAL LAW
Post by: Drace on April 06, 2009, 06:21:02 PM
I'll give you your lulz. Ban me.
Title: Re: REQUEST FORUM UNDER MARTIAL LAW
Post by: Dragonium on April 06, 2009, 06:28:32 PM
Might I also add that if your request has been fulfilled, don't start an off-topic discussion in the thread. It's served its purpose. The should-we-shouldn't-we controversy about going off-topic in All of All is understandable, but in Requests it's just downright silly. Requests is for requests, not discussion of meat produce. Just stop posting.
Title: Re: REQUEST FORUM UNDER MARTIAL LAW
Post by: Fisherson on April 06, 2009, 06:30:32 PM
As much as I don't like Sai as our Sumpreme Emporer I agree with her on this one. Although I think we should ban Trymaker and save a lot of time.
Title: Re: REQUEST FORUM UNDER MARTIAL LAW
Post by: SaiKar on April 06, 2009, 06:32:07 PM
Oh, I fully expect he'll trigger one or both of the conditions sooner or later, so it's all good.
Title: Re: REQUEST FORUM UNDER MARTIAL LAW
Post by: Red Fox on April 06, 2009, 06:34:28 PM
Ja Herr Komodant!
Title: Re: REQUEST FORUM UNDER MARTIAL LAW
Post by: Fisherson on April 06, 2009, 06:42:00 PM
Oh, I fully expect he'll trigger one or both of the conditions sooner or later, so it's all good.

Hey I never looked at that way. You know Sai, if you run for Mayor i might vote for you because of this policy on decipline.
Title: Re: REQUEST FORUM UNDER MARTIAL LAW
Post by: SaiKar on April 06, 2009, 06:53:14 PM
Somehow I get the sneaking suspicion that administrator is a higher rank than mayor. But thanks for the support.
Title: Re: REQUEST FORUM UNDER MARTIAL LAW
Post by: Fisherson on April 06, 2009, 07:18:07 PM
Somehow I get the sneaking suspicion that administrator is a higher rank than mayor. But thanks for the support.

By power only. Being Mayor means that people actually voted you in because you made them see your point of view. I've been a power hungry politician since high school.
Title: Re: REQUEST FORUM UNDER MARTIAL LAW
Post by: Ben on April 06, 2009, 07:24:01 PM
mayor is a firvilous title.
Im suprised this didnt happen sooner.

This applies to the request forum only I hope....not that it matters terribly...what you dudes say pretty much goes.

Because if somebody is posting a game idea in the appropriate forum, its a bit silly to think people would get one-day-bans for posting Critique and Criticism


I think it would help new members ACTUALLY read the rules (cause face it, they dont) and ABSORB them if this was ACTUALLY enforced.
And it would probably make asses like myself hold their tounges a little longer then normal.
Title: Re: REQUEST FORUM UNDER MARTIAL LAW
Post by: SaiKar on April 06, 2009, 07:27:01 PM
Critique and criticism is fine. It's okay to say you think something someone did isn't any good. It's not okay to rip on them or a game they haven't even posted anything about just because everyone else is doing it.
Title: Re: REQUEST FORUM UNDER MARTIAL LAW
Post by: _JeT_ on April 06, 2009, 07:42:26 PM
Yeah, I apologize for yesterday, won't happen again.
But really, that guy was annoying, and I think he was purposely doing that to get a rise out of us.

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I think it would help new members ACTUALLY read the rules (cause face it, they dont) and ABSORB them if this was ACTUALLY enforced.

Second.
Title: Re: REQUEST FORUM UNDER MARTIAL LAW
Post by: Fisherson on April 06, 2009, 07:43:31 PM

I think it would help new members ACTUALLY read the rules (cause face it, they dont) and ABSORB them if this was ACTUALLY enforced.
And it would probably make asses like myself hold their tounges a little longer then normal.

Yeah I was just thinking I hope this doesn;t happen to rest o f the site. I mean we all need a little sillyness in our lives. Other wise we'd be just like Nazis.
Title: Re: REQUEST FORUM UNDER MARTIAL LAW
Post by: Ben on April 06, 2009, 07:56:34 PM
why is everyone so quick to godwin these days?
Title: Re: REQUEST FORUM UNDER MARTIAL LAW
Post by: Darkfox on April 06, 2009, 08:39:22 PM
Critique and criticism is fine. It's okay to say you think something someone did isn't any good. It's not okay to rip on them or a game they haven't even posted anything about just because everyone else is doing it.

I'm actually very tired of this routine of "I have a request" then "LULZ NO!" and basically troll him or "Put Pikachu in there!" making obviously bad suggestions and patronization. That is trolling.
Title: Re: REQUEST FORUM UNDER MARTIAL LAW
Post by: Ben on April 06, 2009, 09:06:06 PM
On the other side of that though....consider this because it happens more often then not


Newmember: I want a charset of the dude from XXXXX
Member named Gus: That could easily be made with the generator...or a quick google image search. Did you even bother to look?
              If you google XXXXX youll find it on the first page. Also, You can find tutorials HERE and HERE. If you want us to help you, at least show that youre putting some effort into this
Newmember: BAAAW i didnt really intend on putting effort into this. Dont be such a jerk Gus
Gus: Dont be an asshat
Other members: What a douche. Go f yourself.
Newmember: Youre all just ganging up on me. Dont be like Gus. He called me an asshat.
Other members: What a douche. lol.
Newmember: Youre all just ganging up on me. Dont be like Gus. He called me an asshat.
Other members: What a douche. Go f yourself.
Newmember: Youre all just ganging up on me. Dont be like Gus. He called me an asshat.

Some random member feeling generous: Here is your charset. Please just shut up

Newmember: Youre all just ganging up on me. Dont be like Gus. He called me an asshat.
Gus: You got the charset. STFU already
Newmember: Youre all just ganging up on me. Dont be like Gus. He called me an asshat.
Other members:lol
Newmember: Youre all just ganging up on me. Dont be like Gus. He called me an asshat.
Other members:lol
Newmember: Youre all just ganging up on me. Dont be like Gus. He called me an asshat.
Gus: God shut up
Other members:lol
Mod: Facepalm. Dont make me think about locking this
Newmember: Youre all just ganging up on me. Dont be like Gus. He called me an asshat. RAAAGE
Gus: jesus


. If I point somebody in the direction of a starting point, and tell them i have no intention of doing the work FOR them, but will gladly offer advice and links to tutorials, and tell them ways to make the resource in question themselves, and ACTUALLY LEARN SOMETHING, then yeah, Ill shoot my mouth. I fully anticipate a ban for this honestly.








Alternate scenario.



Newb: I want to make a sonic Naruto Crossover game. Make me sprites for This this this this this this and this
Gus: This is a bad Idea. I dont think anyone is going to fill this....most of these resources can be found with a quick google search
        If you go to BLAHBLAH.com they have lots of stuff. You will just have to copy past it into a template. Theyre in CR.
Newb: I DONT KNOW HOW TO COPY PASTE. JESUS I JUST REQUESTED IT. WHY ARENT YOU HELPING. YOURE ALL ASSES
Othermembers: lol here [image link to a boat on fire with kittens on it]
Newb: YOURE ALL JERKS LIKE GUS.
Mod: Stop alienating new members. this is the internet. it is to be taken seriously at all times.


SOme of actually are glad to help people that are willing to roll up the sleeves and post their attempts. I dont understand why we dont have a policy along the lines of "TRY THE GENERATORS BEFORE REQUESTING CRAP"....after all.....charas' whole foundation is the generators....its a forum for a charset generator. I dont see Charset request forum on the mainpage. I see some links to a program that AUTOMATICALLY fills requests for things like White haired black ladies from the Xmen.

This dude could have easily made a similar charset, and posted his progress....asking for a recolour....or editing help. but he didnt. he put no effort whatsover into it.


Im not trying to rant. I know I am a douche, and could stand to be less harsh. I know my **** stinks, and i know i could conduct myself better. I know that 70% of the time im pretty much a forum troll. But on the same note, 95% of requests these days seem to not have any thought or effort. They seem to think we are there to serve peoples random whims.

We should just have a Common charset requests forum, or page or something. I would gladly spend a couple of hours with the generator, MSpaint and editing things, if it means putting an end to requests that have disrespectfull undertones.


This is all TLDR. Not trying to stir drama. Just trying to articulate my thoughts regarding this matter.
Im going to try to set an exapmle, and STFU more. On the otherhand, if this "MARTIAL LAW" is enforced even after the inevitible BAAAAAWVAGINA fest is over {which i doubt will happen} I certainly hope that its carried out in an unbiassed way. It seems to me that in regards to this sort of thing, the offending established members are persecuted more then ignorant newcomers who  simply dont read the rules, or put effort into their projects. As such, I believe such ignorance warrants a bit of berrating. But then again...who am I?
Like I said, Ill just STFU more....set the example.


Title: Re: REQUEST FORUM UNDER MARTIAL LAW
Post by: Darkfox on April 06, 2009, 09:36:54 PM
I know what you mean but people have to understand that being a jerk to a jerk is just like putting fuel to the fire. There are sites that hail such behavior and even make mods out of the ones who do it the most but those places are poorly managed and such. I can't remember the name but there's a Bleach fan-forum that has mods that could classify easily as trolls.

The reason I bring this up is because it doesn't help matters but serves only to exasperate them. I know everybody is weary of it and so am I but you have to admit that this does not help either. Though I blame myself for letting this go on as a behavioral norm than speaking out against it...
Title: Re: REQUEST FORUM UNDER MARTIAL LAW
Post by: SaiKar on April 07, 2009, 12:43:28 AM
Probably something like that.
Title: Re: REQUEST FORUM UNDER MARTIAL LAW
Post by: Darkfox on April 07, 2009, 12:44:17 AM
What about breaking the laws twice = 1 week ban, and three times = permanent ban?

Not sure, but I doubt we will have to get THAT serious.

Probably something like that.

Oh, then lets just hope it doesn't come to that then. :S
Title: Re: REQUEST FORUM UNDER MARTIAL LAW
Post by: SaiKar on April 07, 2009, 12:52:10 AM
Well I'm not actually going to perma ban. But the time will get so long that you'd be spending a week off the forum for every hour you're on.
Title: Re: REQUEST FORUM UNDER MARTIAL LAW
Post by: X_marks_the_ed on April 07, 2009, 01:17:54 AM
For a second there, I misread it as marital law.

Now that this place has new rules, I feel like doing requests now. :/
Title: Re: REQUEST FORUM UNDER MARTIAL LAW
Post by: Titan12 on April 07, 2009, 01:30:35 AM
i agree 100%... Lols to geminis newb "ur all ganging up on me" crap cough, cough, tmerril, cough cough, (no offnence).

And I know this is really newbish, but... what are "trolls" (not meaning the big but-ugly monster-type-thingies, lol...)? :-\
Title: Re: REQUEST FORUM UNDER MARTIAL LAW
Post by: Darkfox on April 07, 2009, 01:38:05 AM
i agree 100%... Lols to geminis newb "ur all ganging up on me" crap cough, cough, tmerril, cough cough, (no offnence).

And I know this is really newbish, but... what are "trolls" (not meaning the big but-ugly monster-type-thingies, lol...)? :-\

Trolls are people on the internet that intentionally go out of their way to arouse arguments either by playing dumb, using controversial topics, or just plain spamming.

Also fighting with respected members/admins and mods.

It's also harassing and stalking select users, thus individual trolling.
Title: Re: REQUEST FORUM UNDER MARTIAL LAW
Post by: SaiKar on April 08, 2009, 11:24:18 PM
Martial law rescinded, but I reserve the right to still do what needs to be done to keep this place clean.
Title: Re: REQUEST FORUM UNDER MARTIAL LAW
Post by: coreystranick on April 09, 2009, 01:04:05 AM
I would have kept marital law, it wasn't such a bad idea
Title: Re: REQUEST FORUM UNDER MARTIAL LAW
Post by: Cerebus on April 09, 2009, 01:06:10 AM
Yes, a bit of strictness isn't bad.
Title: Re: REQUEST FORUM UNDER MARTIAL LAW
Post by: Fisherson on April 09, 2009, 01:50:46 AM
i agree 100%... Lols to geminis newb "ur all ganging up on me" crap cough, cough, tmerril, cough cough, (no offnence).

And I know this is really newbish, but... what are "trolls" (not meaning the big but-ugly monster-type-thingies, lol...)? :-\

Didn't I post a link in this thread or another one like it as to what Trolls were?
Title: Re: REQUEST FORUM UNDER MARTIAL LAW
Post by: Cosmos on April 11, 2009, 03:51:04 PM
*coughs* Gem, just because newbies are annoying as **** does not mean we should treat them like pieces of **** 24/7.

Trolling is fun, but don't troll this forum. Go troll a sex chat. Now THAT is fun *giggles*