Charas-Project
Off-Topic => Archive => Old Game Discussion => Topic started by: Hawkfrost on June 09, 2009, 05:10:06 AM
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I'm back and with an idea for a new game. I'm starting a game using every FF character ever made as a main character. We all know everyone has their favorite characters from each game now use them all at once. The game will allow you to create a party of whoever you want from every FF game 1-13. Who would be interested in playing this game if i made it? Cause lets face it...I dont want to waste my time
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The biggest problem is that they're ALL warriors...
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People give FF fan games a bad rep but I think it would be ok if you did it right.
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You're going to have to work your *** off trying ot do this and please the players. 'cuz let's face it. The ff7 people won't be happy without a limit break system and FF8 players would want the Trigger happy-thingy.
And summons, and GF, maybe an AP system, all the skills, materia, classic enemies, bosses, references ect.
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Yea. You would need a s*** load of information about all of these games. IF I saw Terra in your game and she didn't have an esper from, I'd be pretty mad myself.
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I know im gonna have to work hard and integrate all of these systems make sure each character gets things only they should use and so forth. Such as making sure Garnet and Eiko from FF9 each have different summons. and the trigger systems and so forth but im willing to do it because i love the idea of having a game where you can have Cloud, Squall, Basch, and Vivi all on one team. Also the enemies in the game will be every enemy from the FF...well the major ones anyway...that have human forms. Such as all the judges from FF12
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This has bad idea written all over it.
You're going to have to sprite every one of those characters, and possible the monsters since not all FFs have the same monsters/bosses, as well as all the important NPCs and do all the coding.
I don't see this happening.
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This is kinda sounding like the concept of Dissidia, with all the heroes uniting against all the villains, except turn-based.
What about Butz/Bartz and the rest of the FF5 main party crew? Are you going to make a separate class system, just for them?
But, if you go through with this, I may actually help you if you need/want it, rather than being my usual, not caring self. So... just ask if you need it.
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Wouldn't be a bad idea to kind of have a Kingdom Hearts kind of thing where a new hero travels into each othe FF worlds.
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so... you ARE using my sugestion for the name? well... you know this is gunna take a s*** load of time to do right? heh... I'd help, but I'm kinda busy with my game, but I can provide some information if needed... just ask dude...
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Yes i got idea from dissidia. But i don't just want main characters cause lets face it...most other characters from the games are way cooler than the mains. Also i know it is gonna take a very long time and a **** load of work but i'm willing to do it. I like the idea of worlds though
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Why is it that FF gets so many fangames? Really unfair...
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Why is it that FF gets so many fangames? Really unfair...
Because no one pays attention to SMRPG.
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Because each of the 10 ff games have their own story and stuff. Makes things interesting when each game usually shares some common factors but not the entire world and stuff.
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Wouldn't be a bad idea to kind of have a Kingdom Hearts kind of thing where a new hero travels into each othe FF worlds.
Lol That's what I thought KH should be from the begging. Okay here's the thing, swear to me hear and now that three things and I'll give you a some excellent FF charas.
One: You won't give up halfway through.
Two: You WON'T use any KH characters (none! no Disney no KH nothing).
Three: You'll consider adding the true FF villains (The Four Fiends) Lich, Kraken, Marilith and Tiamat.
When you give me an awnser then I'll send you a little something.
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Oh and don't make darkness or chaos the main villain. That would be totally lame. Also no random guy becoming a god. That is also lame. Also, no evil Death.
These are the biggest cliche's running in RPGs and gets really annoying. There's no reason for each of them to be evil, there is no motive. O_o
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Well i was thinking there will be two characters not from an FF series. Main good and Bad guy. And i will not give up halfway through fisherson that i swear. I will never use KH characters..its an FF game not some disney rip-off and i was already considering them.
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Your not making the main villain chaos/darkness/death/random guy that becomes an angel/god are you? Just want to get that out of the way.
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NO! that is way to cliche
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NO! that is way to cliche
Thank you! XD
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Your welcome. I need a name for main Baddie though cause all i got is X. If u have a name to suggest if i like ill use and remember you in credits
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Oh, and I demand Gilgamesh!
I need a name for main Baddie though cause all i got is X. If u have a name to suggest if i like ill use and remember you in credits
Bestro
Elenimon
Telekuras
Benzen Gorito
Alarshak
... Jet
I don't know, is it a monster, a person, or what?
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Danuos R. Kemley
Nerran Ronrick
Clyde Snyzel
Tonnel Reinsik
Rem Scheilk
Fronnier
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It is a human. I like Jet but he needs a last name too.
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Jet Blade...
(I would suggest a better name, but I'm using it for my game...)
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It is a human. I like Jet but he needs a last name too.
Jet only said it because his nickname is Jet. XD
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Jet Onyx
Jet N. Gin (couldn't resist ^_^)
Jet Oriosin
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Sounds like a stupid idea but... why not have one named Hawk and other named Frost?
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Dear god! That is brilliant hirochi!
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You also use the name Fatal Frost, which could be better?
PS: I try.
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Try not to be too obvious guys. Don't give names like "Fatal" and "Evil" in a villain's name. Why would a villain who thinks his works are justified give himself a name like "Evil" and "Malicious"?
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I never said Fatal had to be the bad guy...
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I never said Fatal had to be the bad guy...
Hm... if he was a total contradiction to name, it'd be like an oxymoron. Like how Darkfox, despite the name uses no darkness attacks at all and instead uses spiritual/holy. Contradictory names are fun. XD
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Indeed they are my friend... indeed they are...
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http://asutoranagan.hp.infoseek.co.jp/battlecharset.html
This is for the later FF games, these are absolutly awesome char sets.
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Thank you very much my friend...wow those sprites are bad @$$.
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Very well. Here is you're reward. I didn't make them, but found them a long time ago and lost them and then found them again. They are made by a legendary spriter known as Orochi Weapon 2000. Enjoy and credit him.
FF8 Charas
(http://i612.photobucket.com/albums/tt207/Davidstargazer/FF8Chars-2.png)
FF8 Charas
(http://i612.photobucket.com/albums/tt207/Davidstargazer/FF8Chars-1.png)
I also have some boss and guardian forces.
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Fisherson...those're pretty horrible.
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Yea, they're just edits of the RTP...
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Well i have decided that it will not be a worlds game like KH as that completely ruins my idea of having characters from each game fighting together. Also the main character, Frost, now has a background story that i will post later after i edit and improve it
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This sound really interesting actually. I haven't played a good final fantasy game in quite some time, so I'll be looking forward to this one's development.
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I'm having trouble trying to decide if i want it in a modern world or if i want it to be more medieval in style like most FF games. Input would help
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Medieval, but I'm just a medieval person. Just go with yout gut.
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i was thinking medieval too so thats what it shall be
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It could be a world where different continents are isolated so some medievel and other modern, that way all the characters from ff can be in it and still make some sense
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o and do not forget ff crystal cronicles lol, there is not main character to that game since you just pick one. But they have the black knight, Raem, that light girl. besides that not much
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yes i am not forgetting crystal chronicles that one was one of my favorites lol.
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You should mix it. The classic FF with airships and robots and stuff.
And if you take FFCC, you better take FFT as well.
Either stick to the main series or take all of the spin-offs.
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Finally. Galuf can beat up Jenova.
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This is a horrible idea. This game seems like it's being created as a mockery of gaming. Mixing all these characters from all these time periods from all these worlds from all these different styles into one game is a horrible idea.
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Ok i will take no spin offs as there are way to many. if i took all of them i believe there are 27 FF games all together. I'll just stick to the main ones 1-13 and VS 13. And Dragoon you are entitled to your opinion
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I steal his opinion.
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I agree, as I stated before, you don't really get diversity in your main characters in the FF games. They're all warriors. Who's going to heal? Who will use magic?
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I agree, as I stated before, you don't really get diversity in your main characters in the FF games. They're all warriors. Who's going to heal? Who will use magic?
You could have some thing happen that brings them together, but not all the characters just the best. Add in magic users and healers and lessen the number of warriors
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well the idea of the game is to have ALL the characters... Vivi, yuna, rikku, auron, cloud, edge, cecil, etc. that way you can have a team of mages if you want, or have all superpowered people.
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yes what Hirochi says. I am putting EVERY character from FF in the game not just the main characters.
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are you also going to put in reoccuring events such as Biggs & Wedge, "You Spoony Bard!", and Cid?
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yes but it might be kinda weird having 13 cids wandering around along with however many biggs and wedge
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well, you could have just the one Cid from FF 7, unless there are objections to leaving out Cid from FF 4...
And you might only need 1 Biggs & Wedge since they are the same (kinda) people in the FF they were in...
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Biggs and Wedge are not the same in the games. in 7 they were good guys helping the underground unit created by Barret and in 8 they are evil. thats just one example. but i agree on cid thing
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well maybe they're good guys at first, then turn evil...
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maybe i dont know. I wanna know what others think on this subject
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Uh, no. You said you want to include every final fantasy character, I expect every damn Cid in fron the series in the game. You don't want to break your promise now, do you?
Seriously, including all those characters gives you little choice to balance your charcaters. Lets all count the characters shall we?
Warrior
Black Mage
White Mage
Thief
Black Belt
Red Mage
Knight
Black Wizard
White Wizard
Ninja
Master
Red Wizard
Firion
Mario
Guy
Leon
Minwu
Gordon
Josef
Leila
Ricard
Luneth
Arc
Refia
Ingus
Cecil
Kain
Rosa
Rydia
Yang
Edge
Edward
Cid
Tellah
Palom
Porom
FuSoYa
Butz
Lenna
Galuf
Farris
Krile
Terra
Locke
Edgar
Sabin
Cyan
Shadow
Gau
Setzer
Celes
Relm
Strago
Mog
Umaro
Gogo
Cloud
Tifa
Aeris
Barrett
Red XIII
Cid
Yuffie
Cait Sith
Vincent
Squall
Zell
Rinoa
Irvine
Quistis
Selphie
Zidane
Garnet
Vivi
Steiner
Freya
Quina
Eiko
Amarant
Tidus
Wakka
Yuna
Lulu
Kimarhi
Auron
Rikku
Paine
Not to mention continuity issues between FFX and FFX-2, and those're just the protagonists.
Now when you can choose a party with Auron, Steiner, Cloud, and Amarant, so overly powered by using Materia and GFs to give them white magic and black magic, where is the strategy? Where's the point to it?
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The point is you can use whoever you want. And i wont make two versions of yuna and rikku from x and x-2 because they are the same person so no need.
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The point of an RPG is that you include strategy and fun to the battles. Using those four powerhouses, combined with white and black magic via Materia and GFs, make it to where the battles become a tedious collection of mashing enter over and over again until you run into an enemy that can only be killed by black magic, which are few and far between, or when someone needs healed.
You are not thinking about this very well at all.
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Only cloud could use materia and only character from 8 can use Gf's. each character will have their respective ability from the real game so even with powerhouses like them it would be difficult. and the point of the game is that if u love characters from two different games then throw them together in a team. it doesnt matter
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Haha. Like this hasn't been thought of before.
Seriously. If I remember right from when I used to visit here more frequently you were a smart guy. You should know this wouldn't work, or at least it would be met with horrid disapproval. Your time and talents would be better spent on a more original project.
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So you mean for some magical reason, despite these universes coming together, only characters from that game can use their respective stuff?
Zidane: So...Cloud...how can you use Black Magic?
Cloud: Because I have materia equipped.
Zidane: Can you teach me how to do that?
Cloud: No. You have to be from my game.
Zidane: But why?
Cloud: You just have to be from my game. Despite us being equally capable, you just ahve to be from my game.
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Each game will have its own continent if you will. And noone will want to give away their secrets in case of war between them
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And yet they are SO quick to work together and reveal how these secrets work while working together to save the world, because I doubt they equip their materia and junction the GFs while hiding behind a tree or a bush or in the shadows.
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u have a good point. Do to critics and the like this game is postponed indeffinately. I will be working on another game using the character i made to be this ones main.
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Dragoon, you have a lot of good points...
BUT what if there is a NEW materia type, that everyone uses, and there is no island only stuff
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ya but there are so many characters and basically no story i can come up with that would bring all of them together.
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So you mean for some magical reason, despite these universes coming together, only characters from that game can use their respective stuff?
Zidane: So...Cloud...how can you use Black Magic?
Cloud: Because I have materia equipped.
Zidane: Can you teach me how to do that?
Cloud: No. You have to be from my game.
Zidane: But why?
Cloud: You just have to be from my game. Despite us being equally capable, you just ahve to be from my game.
well what if the characters know they can only use certain things, since if they could other peoples stuff they would lose their current abilities. So to make sure they can handle any scenerio they dont go into each others abilities.
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So Zidane using Materia would get rid of his ability to Steal, something he's done all his life and his class is defined by this ability?
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You know, this could have been a lot easier if you just gave skills from their games normally, rather than going with Cloud uses materia, Squall uses junction, Zidane goes with equipment mastery, etc... And just do a basic limit break system for everyone, rather than doing every game's.
For example, Vivi would simply learn offensive spells, and does a strong magic attack for a limit break. Zidane could learn moves like Steal (Maybe split into Steal item, gil, armor, etc...) and various moves to increase speed, and does a Tidal Flame (or whatever) for his limit break.
That would have been better in the long run at least.
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If i did do that the fans of certain games would be mad that there system wasnt in a game that that character was in
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So you're trying to please everyone? That's pretty useless. You can't please everyone. You may as well give that up.
You should follow his advice, or give it up, because the other option is so full of flaws that it's swiss cheese.
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ok project is back on. Instead of having each games system there will be one limit system as suggested. Thank you for offering a good solution _JeT_
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No prob, I guess.
Haha. Like this hasn't been thought of before.
Seriously. If I remember right from when I used to visit here more frequently you were a smart guy. You should know this wouldn't work, or at least it would be met with horrid disapproval. Your time and talents would be better spent on a more original project.
You're back now?
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Meh, I'm lurking.
If you're going to try and make one system for all characters to use, I suggest looking at the game Cross Edge. I haven't played it, but I've read that it effectively brought together the main characters of some six odd games. Maybe you'll get some ideas there.
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Thanks. I'm going to take time off of this and work on a different game i have going on
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What game?
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A secret project
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lame name
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That is not name. I prefer to keep project a secret
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If its one thing ive learned, no matter how hard you try or how awesome your **** is, there will always be someone you cant please. All you can do is do your best and hope most people enjoyed your efforts.
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Ya i am gonna do this game still but im doing a project i want to complete much more first...I guess i can tell u. I won't make thread for awhile but look forward to Final Fantasy: The Chocobo Wars
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...Chocobo...Wars? Errrrmmmmm...
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it sounds stupid in title cause i ahve not thought of a good one so....basically your a knight on a chocobo. battleing in a war against other nations. it is gonna be ABS...i make it sound bad but imagine running around on back of chocobo hacking others on backs of chocobos up
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Ehhhhhhh... Not helping.
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That's an even worse idea. My suggestion is making an ORIGINAL game, not one based off of Final Fantasy.
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Will you be able to use the remains of the chocobo, put it in 11 secret spices, flour, fry it and market that?
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I have an original game im working on too. i switch between projects when i get bored with one of them.
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I have an original game im working on too. i switch between projects when i get bored with one of them.
Well this actually can work. Switching between games is something I do. The problem is when your switching between 3 or more it's hard. Unless you're working on a game for Drak's crappy game reviews. But, i still think you should move on past FF fan games. There is only one super sucessful FF fan game I would ever play and it's site crashed a while bakckand I think it's gone forever. I miss FFTATA so badly....I'd kill for a download link...
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Well im mainly doing the chocobo game cause some friends of mine want it and the other opne well maaa its not turning out so great so i think im gonna drop it
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Well im mainly doing the chocobo game cause some friends of mine want it and the other opne well maaa its not turning out so great so i think im gonna drop it
I would drop it very soon and start thinking up an original project. It's not that hard. I mean I made an original project from a Star Wars spoof and look how that turned out. Everyone wants to play it. Heck I made a game where the main characters are a surfer, a sailor and ninja and I even made that original. If you need help with ideas then I can help you and would be happy to.
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As i said I do have an original idea. I'm writing out the main plot and spriting my main characters now. That is the game i really really wanna do but i dont wanna dissapoint my friends so im thinking chocobo wars will be like one level just run around and hack **** up
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well you could of course make chocobos wars but extrememl short, or have different levels whcih u chose from and each one has different enemies. Like a tactical game, but no leveling up.
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Well that is what it was gonna be anyway. It was was gonna be choose chocobo and you get that colors ability. That would be about it that would be different