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Game Creation => Requests => RPG Maker Programming => Topic started by: RadiantWind on June 16, 2009, 07:24:25 PM

Title: Need suggestions for Sonic RPG
Post by: RadiantWind on June 16, 2009, 07:24:25 PM
Well, for all of you who saw my Sonic RPG a year ago in the other sub-forum, I am still working on it. Anyways,
I need some suggestions on the combat. Here's what I had in mind.

All equipment are rings. (example: Attack rings, shield rings, defense rings, support rings)

Weapons are attack rings
Shields become shield rings
Armor and helmets become defense rings
Accessories become Support rings

Also, there will be no leveling up in the game. Only things that enhance stats, MP and HP.

How do you feel about this? Don't like it? Give me a suggestion on how to fix it. SOme ideas for the game would be nice, too.
Title: Re: Need suggestions for Sonic RPG
Post by: Shady Ultima on June 16, 2009, 08:31:05 PM
It COULD be interesting, but it all depends how you do things. Who will be your characters? Villains? Story? I mean, Sonic itself doesn't even have a very coherent story. You'll have to do a lot of planning.
Title: Re: Need suggestions for Sonic RPG
Post by: RadiantWind on June 16, 2009, 08:53:01 PM
Okay, here are the planned main characters and story that I have so far.

Characters:

Sonic
Knuckles
Tails

Story:

This is a quick summary.

Sonic is in bed when he gets a phone call from Knuckles (yes, Knuckles lives in a house, not in the emerald shrine) telling
him that the emeralds have been acting strange lately and that he needs to come to the chaos emerald shrine right away, then hangs up. Sonic has no time to ask questions, and sets off for the shrine.

The main plot will involve the chaos emeralds being corrupted by a mysterious power, turning them into the dark emeralds.
Sonic gain new abilities from their powers, and has to find out what has made the emeralds dark. Expect to see Tails, Amy Rose, Shadow, and other characters from Sonic. Also, there will be new locations and other cool features.


But I still need a team to help me. Anyone interested?

In that case, hope you like the story, Shady Ultima.
Title: Re: Need suggestions for Sonic RPG
Post by: Shady Ultima on June 16, 2009, 09:00:37 PM
The story could work.

You need to have the batchick though.
Title: Re: Need suggestions for Sonic RPG
Post by: RadiantWind on June 17, 2009, 04:00:02 AM
Hahaha! Rouge? I'll see what I can do. Some sort of subplot concerning her and the emeralds?

Like this, maybe?

Rouge sneaks into the Emerald Shrine one night to steal the emeralds. (Seeing that she could make a lot of money off of them)
However, just as she is about to bag them, a dark figure pushes her aside and does something strange to the emeralds. Suddenly,
a strange light appears from the emeralds, and the figure teleports away. Sonic and Knuckles run to the emeralds after hearing a
loud noise and find Rouge unconscious. Later, when she is awake, she is questioned.

Like it? Sounds good to me. And I just came up with it while I was typing it!  :P
Title: Re: Need suggestions for Sonic RPG
Post by: tmerrill420 on June 18, 2009, 03:22:06 PM
you should make it to were you can play either side good or bad i think that would kinda cool for a sonic game
Title: Re: Need suggestions for Sonic RPG
Post by: _JeT_ on June 18, 2009, 03:41:54 PM
you should make it to were you can play either side good or bad i think that would kinda cool for a sonic game

...

Like Trymaker's?
Title: Re: Need suggestions for Sonic RPG
Post by: RadiantWind on June 18, 2009, 06:58:06 PM
Maybe there will be another game where you can do that. Right now, I'm just working on all the items, skills, and animations. But playing as the bad guys sounds fun. Expect something like that someday.
Title: Re: Need suggestions for Sonic RPG
Post by: RadiantWind on June 18, 2009, 10:11:17 PM
The Sonic RPG? Or that game I'll do someday involving the bad guys?
Title: Re: Need suggestions for Sonic RPG
Post by: Mortalitas on June 18, 2009, 11:25:55 PM
how about:  Original Idea!
Title: Re: Need suggestions for Sonic RPG
Post by: RadiantWind on June 18, 2009, 11:27:57 PM
To Lucas: We have our opinions. But why shouldn't I do it? Just wondering.

To Mortalitas: Maybe someday. But keep in mind that I asked for suggestions on Sonic RPG. I don't mean to be rude, but if you don't have any suggestions, don't post here.

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UPDATES

Instead of rings for equipment, there will just be stat boosting equipment. You can't attack, attacks are replaced by skills that act like attacks and use up AP. (The equivalent of MP) Progress is good, I have made animations by getting spritesheets of Sonic Battle at the Spriter's Resource.
Title: Re: Need suggestions for Sonic RPG
Post by: fruckert on June 19, 2009, 12:54:55 AM
But why shouldn't I do it?
Fan games as a general rule, tend to suck reaaally badly
Title: Re: Need suggestions for Sonic RPG
Post by: RadiantWind on June 19, 2009, 01:51:37 AM
Ok. I can understand that. (I have played a lot of fan games) I forgot what makes fan games so bad. Is it the story? Gameplay?
I'm not sure, but most of the fan games I have played are based on Final Fantasy.

Anyways, maybe you guys could help me make my game non-suckish? I already posted the general story a few posts up, could you give me feedback and what could be better/what I could improve on? I want to make a good game.

Thanks!
Title: Re: Need suggestions for Sonic RPG
Post by: Shady Ultima on June 19, 2009, 02:21:39 AM
To make a good Sonic game... you have to be Sega.

The reason fan games suck is A) they're usually dumb, add stupid characters or do stupid things (see Final Fantasy : Collision with EVERY FF character)
B) They change the overall dynamics of the game series. I've seen a Zelda game that is an RPG.
C) The story is usually complete crap, using recycled topics (like your Crystals)
D) There is little to no original development.

I have yet to see a GOOD fan game, and most try too hard to be like the actual series. True, most fan games in rm2k3 are FF ones, but I have seen quite a few Zelda ones as well.
Title: Re: Need suggestions for Sonic RPG
Post by: RadiantWind on June 19, 2009, 03:50:03 AM
Hahaha! I have to sort of disagree with you on the thing about SEGA. (They have almost ruined the franchise, save a few recent games)

Anyways, I think my story is fine. I have been outlining it and improving it. Should I have a new villain? Eggman over and over is boring.
But I will still continue on development. A demo might be out sometime later, you can rate and give suggestions.

Thanks for your help, though.

BTW: I'm making Sonic resources out of sprite sheets for my game. Should I submit them to the complete resources?
Title: Re: Need suggestions for Sonic RPG
Post by: HobomasterXXX on June 19, 2009, 08:30:13 AM
Eggman is low tier Robotnik is god tier
Title: Re: Need suggestions for Sonic RPG
Post by: Shady Ultima on June 19, 2009, 06:56:06 PM
Sega doesn't want to make a good game. They make a good game, Nintendo makes huge profit.
Title: Re: Need suggestions for Sonic RPG
Post by: RadiantWind on June 19, 2009, 09:58:13 PM
HobomasterXXX: Eggman is the original name for Dr. Robotnik.

This talk about SEGA is funny and all, but could I get some feedback on the story here? What you did and didn't like?
Title: Re: Need suggestions for Sonic RPG
Post by: RadiantWind on June 19, 2009, 10:15:53 PM
Thanks, I'll be sure to improve.

What I agree with:
1. Fangames tend to not have original storyies.

Disagree:
2. Not true. Sonic Chronicles: The Dark Brotherhood was awesome.
3. Not really a cliche. True, the chaos emeralds might be in every Sonic game, but they have never really played a big
role in the games except turn Sonic into super form. The emeralds play a more important role in the story.

Agree and kinda disagree:
4. True, it's not creative when you hear about it, but I only have 20% of the story right now. This might be interesting.

Title: Re: Need suggestions for Sonic RPG
Post by: RadiantWind on June 19, 2009, 10:32:41 PM
I agree with you on number 3 on your post.

Here are some ways Sonic RPG aims to be different.

1. Hard work. I have seen so many fan games that have no work put into them. (not mentioning names)

2. No cheesy fan characters. I am probably put in a new character, but it won't be cliche ridden. (Awesome magic powers, able to destroy cities with a single swipe of the hand)

3. Everything is planned. I am writing the scripts for the story, planning skills, etc, all before doing them so that it can make sense!

4. If I have to say so, a good battle system.  Skills replace attacks, and they take up AP, which you can rest in battle to regain. This gives a sense of strategy in managing your AP.

Adding more soon!
Title: Re: Need suggestions for Sonic RPG
Post by: HobomasterXXX on June 20, 2009, 02:21:16 AM
HobomasterXXX: Eggman is the original name for Dr. Robotnik.

This talk about SEGA is funny and all, but could I get some feedback on the story here? What you did and didn't like?
His design was cooler.
Title: Re: Need suggestions for Sonic RPG
Post by: RadiantWind on June 20, 2009, 07:04:05 AM
I thought they were the same for both Robotnik and Eggman? But I'll double check.
Title: Re: Need suggestions for Sonic RPG
Post by: fruckert on June 20, 2009, 07:33:04 AM
They're the same guy, but Robotnik sounds less stupid
Title: Re: Need suggestions for Sonic RPG
Post by: HobomasterXXX on June 20, 2009, 08:27:51 AM
They're the same guy, but Robotnik sounds less stupid
And Robotnik says Pingas.
Title: Re: Need suggestions for Sonic RPG
Post by: zuhane on June 20, 2009, 11:55:21 AM
Make a Sonic fangame that has no Sonic characters, music, sprites, ideas or similarities!
Title: Re: Need suggestions for Sonic RPG
Post by: RadiantWind on June 20, 2009, 06:49:26 PM
 >:(  Dammit! I wish all of you would give me some actual HELP instead of telling me to make another game. Read the subject!
Title: Re: Need suggestions for Sonic RPG
Post by: _JeT_ on June 20, 2009, 08:50:54 PM
Meh, just leave him alone now... If he wants to spend time on this, let him.
Title: Re: Need suggestions for Sonic RPG
Post by: Mortalitas on June 21, 2009, 02:03:25 AM
okay here is a suggestion which is not just another telling you to make another game:

Dr. Eggman is Dr Robotnik (however it is spelt)

But is grandfather is also Dr. Robonik, which built the eclipse cannon.  He was locked in jail for wanting to kill everyone include him in your game as the villian instead of Eggman, Robonik is cooler
Title: Re: Need suggestions for Sonic RPG
Post by: RadiantWind on June 21, 2009, 03:36:12 AM
To Jet: Thanks.

To Mortalitas: Actually, he died a long time ago. But the plot will involve Eggman as a minor villain.
Title: Re: Need suggestions for Sonic RPG
Post by: fruckert on June 21, 2009, 06:50:06 AM
And Robotnik says Pingas.
Which would mean Eggman says Pingas
Since they're the same dude
Eggman is just his Alias
His name is Ivo Robotnik
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Title: Re: Need suggestions for Sonic RPG
Post by: HobomasterXXX on June 21, 2009, 06:53:16 AM
Which would mean Eggman says Pingas
Since they're the same dude
Eggman is just his Alias
His name is Ivo Robotnik
[/nerd]
Well, basically i like Robotnik for 2 reasons.
One: It doesn't sound ****ing stupid.
Two: It was his name before the series had a gun foced down it's throat by SEGA.
Title: Re: Need suggestions for Sonic RPG
Post by: fruckert on June 21, 2009, 06:54:29 AM
Well, basically i like Robotnik for 2 reasons.
One: It doesn't sound ****ing stupid.
Two: It was his name before the series had a gun foced down it's throat by SEGA.
I agree wholeheartedly.
Title: Re: Need suggestions for Sonic RPG
Post by: Mortalitas on June 21, 2009, 03:12:46 PM
To Jet: Thanks.

To Mortalitas: Actually, he died a long time ago. But the plot will involve Eggman as a minor villain.

Oh well on Sonic Adventure 2 battle:  He makes a speach which sounds like it is occuring at the same time... but it could have been just a recording made for the future and seem like it is the present