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Off-Topic => Archive => Old Game Discussion => Topic started by: supasora on August 18, 2009, 04:24:20 AM
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Yes I am commiting the unforgiveble act of creating a Final Fantasy sequel. And of #8 no less! the reason for me doing this is for me to get experience using Rm2k3 while I develope chipsets and charsets for my other game. Also its about time someone did FF8 fan game to ruin it more! Im also doing this to make people upset. Why would you want to play this game? Idk just stay tuned. Oh it wont have sorrceres and squall and zell will problable be the only past party members, all else are new. TAKE THAT!
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This is what is known as a bad idea.
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This is what is known as a bad idea.
Darn right! but I'm finishing this thing. If I get that map tree of death I'll still do it.
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Darn right! but I'm finishing this thing.
Until it's done and ready for download I don't think this is gonna be finished.
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If I had a camera I would take a picture of my Final Fantasy VIII sucks t-shirt. Sadly I have no camera so I'm just gonna say Final Fantasy VIII sucks, and I would not play a fan game of it.
And wouldn't it go faster if you instead of using time to create this game actually used it to make the chipsets for your other game.
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...yeah, not a very good idea.
If it's going to get a sequel (I hope not), let's leave it to the professionals, so we can boycott them instead of flame you.
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good luck.
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FF8 was the one FF i couldnt stand.
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squall and zell will problable be the only past party members
What, no Selphie? Fail.
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I'm only making this game so I can learn how to do events and make cut sceans and crap. It'll help me with my real game. I dont have to make anything for this game since the bizzilions of fans have already done that for me. this way I can learn the systems and work on the stuff for my real game... Screen shots! these are showing how i make fun of myself and fan games.
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Might want to work on your mapping skills too.
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Might want to work on your mapping skills too.
Hence the word fan game. FF7 the dark cloud, that was awful. I'll be able to learn all kinds of crap by doing this game.
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If you're making the game just for the experience, and know it will suck and that nobody would want to play it,
then what's the point to even make a thread on it?
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VIII was okay. Graphics and music were great but I'd say the story and gameplay go to VII or VI.
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Just posting to say, there is not enough diversity with the poll options. There is no option for, "My opinion of you cannot go any lower".
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If I had a camera I would take a picture of my Final Fantasy VIII sucks t-shirt. Sadly I have no camera so I'm just gonna say Final Fantasy VIII sucks, and I would not play a fan game of it.
You're an arse.
If this game is terrible I will personally assassinate everyone in this thread.
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Eh. I get the feeling I'm the only one who's actually looking forward to this. Couldn't be any worse than the original, that's certain. My advice would be to aim low and make it short. That way there's no pressure to finish it. Good luck and all else.
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I wanted you to put Squall and everyone in it. I never really liked Zell. You gonna have any Triple Triad? didn't think so.
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Posting in epic fail thread.
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I know how you can make the game actually good. Picture it opening screen flashing lights as you zoom in on Squall and Zell. Zell walks up to Squall and bursts out "Hey Squall! Let's go on an adventure!" Squall quickly replies "Hell no!" He then strikes Zell down to the ground with a mighty slap. Then fade to black.
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I know how you can make the game actually good. Picture it opening screen flashing lights as you zoom in on Squall and Zell. Zell walks up to Squall and bursts out "Hey Squall! Let's go on an adventure!" Squall quickly replies "Hell no!" He then strikes Zell down to the ground with a mighty slap. Then fade to black.
Darn that would be cool. Wish I thought of that. I'll use it if you don't mind. btw ill put selphie in
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Couldn't be any worse than the original, that's certain.
You poor deluded child.
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You think so? Believe me, I've played a fair amount of nearly all of the Final Fantasies, finished quite a few of them, too. I can say with absolute resolve that the series is near-uncontested rubbish. :P
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This ain't the Crappy RPG thread....so what's it doing here? o_o
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... Captain Picard?
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FF flaming trolls... This thread is getting very smelly...
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FF flaming trolls... This thread is getting very smelly...
Yeah I think it's time it died. Look, Supasora, when you make game thread, you need to be serious about it. Not trying to bust your balls or nothing, just next time, plan out a simple back story. If you have trouble, well that's why you make freinds here on charas. Warped wouldn't be as good as it is, without my freindships with Lonewolf, Muraiko, Jet and many others. Now if you want to make a game with no sotry and random characters try the Crapy Game Reveiw thread.
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the Crappy Game Review thread.
I'm sure they would love this game.
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Who said it would have no story or characters. And since this is my test game I do have to try otherwise I wont learn anything. Im just not going to even going to try and make it like an epic Final Fantasy. It problably be a gaiden game with some seirous stuff and comedy and about 5 bosses intill you beat it. If I were to make a complete crap game I'd make catwoman the rpg based on the movie. And since some asked I'll put the original party members in.
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double post bump! (Oh Noes!). I have seem crappy new screen shots. I need to find new beds where I can put people in and make them look like they're sleeping. I finally basically figured out the events. If floating gun blades bother you to bad.
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I liked the original FF8...this I um..yeeeeaaaah..
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Oh boy...Now, I hope you actually finish for the simple fact that throughout the years of me being here, there have been thousands of FF fangames and they all sucked or they were never made. This also, needs alot of work and no one is gonna take it seriously from the screenshots. The maps aren't good, for some reason Capt. Picard is with Squall and the Gunblade wasn't even in Squall hand.
I see you are trying to get better at making games by making this but... Don't you think you should put alot of effort into this anyway? Just making the game stupid and uninteresting won't make you learn anything... Try to use alot of tutorials and make this a test game... Take it seriously.. No one is gonna take Squall seriously in a VIII-2 game even when Kingdom Hearts made him look even more "uncool"....
Just take my advice and work on your mapping and storyling and gameplay. That's how you will get better... and this game might be a decent play
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I like the way it looks when the gunblade is out of his hand. And if this was a fan game Then I would have said something to the effect of "I know you'll enjoy this because I draw my inspriation from the original." It'll be a more playable version of that bessie the cow game...
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Bessie owns you!
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Bessie owns everyone...
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hahahaha
HAHAHAHAHA
This blows. I don't care if you're just "training" with the program or not.
It's GREAT that you're trying to make a game before trying to make your own personal masterpiece game, but for heaven's sake don't advertise it if you know, and intend, for it to turn out poorly. If you want help with mapping and such, there are other places for it, like the tutorial section or the screenshot thread.
BTW, google RPGM Font Fix, it will help make your text look cleaner. :)
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Check your grammar...also, some of the dialogue seems out of character. Also your maps are empty.
Also FFVIII sucked.
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Also FFVIII sucked.
How dare you.
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We're a merciless bunch.
... that doesn't mean anything we're saying is untrue, of course.
How dare you.
Oh come on, it's true. I've beaten 4, 6, 7, 9, 10, and 12, but couldn't get more than a few hours into 8 before just walking away shaking my head in confusion and disgust.
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I loved 8, I just didn't like the ending. everything else was just awesome about it. I've loved all the FF games with the grand exception of 10, 10 was a abomination to everthiny that is good and pure in this world.
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If #10 was on ps1 it might have been good. what bothers me is when people dis #8 just because they cant understand the plot. Because of this they think its a weak story. Its the one with the most complex plot with the most beilivable characters. The characters are well developed. And contuary to what others say squall never pulls a gohan. I also liked the sci fi. Id explain more but psps have character limits and most people dont care which is sad. Understand its well developed before hating.
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I liked 8 alot more than 10 and I liked all the character including Squall.
Which is why Kingdom Hearts angers me because they just ruined Squall.
Edit:
Btw why is Squall wearing a red skirt?
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You're going to have to accept that it was the black sheep of the series. It was utterly different to everything that came before it. There was no OMG WE MUST GRIND TO BE STRONG or OMG WE MUST STOP EVILBADGUY™. It was story-based with different gameplay mechanics. And let's face it, some people are not okay with that.
It's my favourite of the series but you can't expect everyone to like everything.
EDIT: That said, it would be nice if people could appreciate the difference between "I don't like it" and "it sucks".
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If #10 was on ps1 it might have been good. what bothers me is when people dis #8 just because they cant understand the plot. Because of this they think its a weak story. Its the one with the most complex plot with the most beilivable characters. The characters are well developed. And contuary to what others say squall never pulls a gohan. I also liked the sci fi. Id explain more but psps have character limits and most people dont care which is sad. Understand its well developed before hating.
Yes, that's exactly why I don't like it. I should understand its well developed, and has beilivable characters before I dis it. Since contuary to what others say, its actually a great game. :bend:
EDIT: That said, it would be nice if people could appreciate the difference between "I don't like it" and "it sucks".
Sorry Dragonium...you know I love you :hi:
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Guys, guys, please.
Let's just agree that they all suck.
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Sorry Dragonium...you know I love you :hi:
Forgiven.
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If #10 was on ps1 it might have been good. what bothers me is when people dis #8 just because they cant understand the plot. Because of this they think its a weak story. Its the one with the most complex plot with the most beilivable characters. The characters are well developed. And contuary to what others say squall never pulls a gohan. I also liked the sci fi. Id explain more but psps have character limits and most people dont care which is sad. Understand its well developed before hating.
Even if I grant you that 8 had well-developed characters and a complex plot, which I do NOT, it's still a video game that's confusing and not fun to play. A complex story and developed characters alone does not a good video game make. Those things make good games great, but they can't make bad games good. Most of the things that the game has you do, like drawing from enemies ad infinitum and leveling up only to find out that your enemies also level up, is just plain not fun to perform. Some of the cutscenes were kinda cool. Maybe it would have made an okay movie, or a graphic novel, or a book, or something that did not require a player to interact with it. As a video game though, they made a lot of design choices that took away from the fun of playing a video game. Whatever else you can say about it, that means it fails.
Guys, guys, please.
Let's just agree that they all suck.
NO U
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Saikar pretty much just hit it on the nail.
Dragonium too, in the sense that it was the black sheep.
I personally didn't like it.
Story didn't really make much sense in some places (...and you who are supposed to be our villain is?...), and the gameplay was omfg ridiculous (but not as bad as XII, although that's kind of hard to beat...but it comes close).
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What was going to attempt to be a thoughtful well developed post ended up kinda short...
much liek teh game, ooh burn, you al lloos btw
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I used to hate FF8 and now it's probably my second favourite FF. Try replaying it, and for good measure don't ever summon GFs in battle. Use attack and magic instead. Work out the junctioning system and ignore most of the tutorials. Then suddenly it becomes awesome.
Or not, if it's not your thing, which might just be the case. The ridiculous split in opinion on the quality of FF12 is enough evidence to show that the fact that an FF is good to most people doesn't mean a fan of the series will like it.
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Or not, if it's not your thing, which might just be the case. The ridiculous split in opinion on the quality of FF12 is enough evidence to show that the fact that an FF is good to most people doesn't mean a fan of the series will like it.
Pepole don't like FF12? What kind of jerk wouldn't want to play a game with no world map and an automatic fighting system? Personally, I love running across the desert for hours on end, only to be killed by a bird because I have no ranged weapons.
Especially when the last save point was 4 hours ago.
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Pepole don't like FF12? What kind of jerk wouldn't want to play a game with no world map and an automatic fighting system? Personally, I love running across the desert for hours on end, only to be killed by a bird because I have no ranged weapons.
Especially when the last save point was 4 hours ago.
Don't forget the level 50-something fireball thingies when you're level 10ish!
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Pepole don't like FF12? What kind of jerk wouldn't want to play a game with no world map and an automatic fighting system? Personally, I love running across the desert for hours on end, only to be killed by a bird because I have no ranged weapons.
Especially when the last save point was 4 hours ago.
Lol
That is the best thing I have read in this whole thread.
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I used to hate FF8 and now it's probably my second favourite FF. Try replaying it, and for good measure don't ever summon GFs in battle. Use attack and magic instead. Work out the junctioning system and ignore most of the tutorials. Then suddenly it becomes awesome.
A million times this. You can win by spamming GFs but when you get your Junctions set up right and you actually learn to play properly it is immensely satisfying. Especially when Zell has 255 Strength and uses his Limit Break. Then you are if anything overpowered.
Most of the things that the game has you do, like drawing from enemies ad infinitum and leveling up only to find out that your enemies also level up, is just plain not fun to perform.
It becomes a lot less tedious when you start using Card Mod and Item-RF skills. Drawing becomes moot. And the level-scaling is really not a problem if you're consistently improving by using the Junction system to its full potential.
I'll say it again - it was not a bad game, you just didn't like it. Just because you don't find something fun does not mean it is not fun for others.
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A million times this. You can win by spamming GFs but when you get your Junctions set up right and you actually learn to play properly it is immensely satisfying. Especially when Zell has 255 Strength and uses his Limit Break. Then you are if anything overpowered.
It becomes a lot less tedious when you start using Card Mod and Item-RF skills. Drawing becomes moot. And the level-scaling is really not a problem if you're consistently improving by using the Junction system to its full potential.
I'll say it again - it was not a bad game, you just didn't like it. Just because you don't find something fun does not mean it is not fun for others.
You got it right no eveyrone likes everything just a diffrence of opion.
I do however think FF8 got the short end of the stick though any game following the way ridiculously overpopular game FF7 was bound to make people alot of people dissapointed especially since as soon as FF7 ended their mind was already set unconsciously that they were going to hate FF8 because it wasn't FF7.
Drawing was annoying though but that was only one thing there game had so many great things and scenes.
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I'll say it again - it was not a bad game, you just didn't like it. Just because you don't find something fun does not mean it is not fun for others.
By that definition nothing is bad or good because, no matter how crappy something is, at least one person somewhere will think it has more good than bad. That's some pretty weak sauce language. While it's important to be respectful of people's opinions, that doesn't mean that I can't have my own. I believe it was a bad game. A lot of other RPG players think this too. Square seems to even think this because they threw away a lot of bad systems from FF8 and didn't put them in future games.
I do R&D projects at work. Sometime I make bad material. I learn something from it and move on, but that doesn't stop the thing I made from being bad. I view FF8 is sort of the same thing. Square tried a lot of stuff but people didn't like it so they moved on. A learning experience for us all, but doesn't stop the game from being unpopular.
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I really wish I was not on a psp and at school otherwise I could defend this WELL DEVELOPED Game. It is all a matter of opinion. I thought #8 was great because it had more emphasis on attacking and summons then magic. I thought #12 sucked because the characters were boring and I thought the side quest were fun. I disliked #6 (For Shame!) because the story, while well devolped, didnt appeal to me. Im not saying you cant like it, Im just saying I cant like It. Too bad the FF 6 fan boys are the most angry.
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Too bad the FF 6 fan boys are the most angry.
Good call, pot. :P
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Good call, pot. :P
Yup, to bad Im being an ultra noob right now and adding a bizzilion differnt characters from FF 7-10. Theirs so many sprites out their and I mainly just want it to be like a crappy old school FF with sprites of the 3d characters... Tidus is likable as a sprite... Im bassically doing what Missingname is doing, but without billy mays and less original.
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Too bad the FF 6 fan boys are the most angry.
Hey you ****er, I take offense.
****ing idiot...
=P
Yeah, opinions opinions, whatever the ****.
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And to put this thread to more contraversy and because I cant just make a new thread for this, Im deciding to make my own costume sprites for... Everybody Loves Raymond (seriously). No hopefully they wont be in this game but you have to wonder... A everybody loves raymond fan game... Okay thats problably too much, but I will also try Babylon 5 sprites which would be nice non important extras. But Its gonna kill me making this hair...
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Oh good Lord. I remember that guy. I still don't know WHY they went with that hair style. It's like a sideways mohawk.
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Is that guy half broom, or something?
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Dude wtf are you even doing? /facepalm If you're going to make a fan game at least make a crappy game first with no fan base attached or people are going to think you're a clown designer. You want a good first impression or your **** will end up in my thread as a joke and posted on youtube to be made fun of.
P.S. Final Fantasy 8 had the worst spell system in the fucken world. Though, I did like Squall and his strange behavior O.o
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You know, I actually like FF8. I got into it easier than I did with 7 (maybe cuz I copied my brother's 7 file cuz I didn't want to do the reactor and I had no idea where the hell I was at). But really, I don't see why everybody hated FF8 so much. My theory about it is this: It was because it was by Square. If it was by a different company, it woulda sold a lot more (or not at all, depending on the company and how they did it).
And did anybody try this (really, I'm not sure): Rewrite FF8's story. Same story, but make it BETTER.
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I like FInal Fantasy VII (7) better. YOu should do a FF7 and FF8 crossover with Squall and Cloud kicking *** =D
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I like FInal Fantasy VII (7) better. YOu should do a FF7 and FF8 crossover with Squall and Cloud kicking *** =D
Is that not kinda like the idea of Dissidia?
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I don't own a psp =(
I wish they would make it for the DS
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A DS would not be able to handle it as is. Either the DS would need a major revamp, or the game would have to be majorly downgraded, which would make it unenjoyable for the most part.
I like FInal Fantasy VII (7) better. YOu should do a FF7 and FF8 crossover with Squall and Cloud kicking *** =D
Ugh, bad crossover ideas make me sad.
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I'm starting to think either this is a troll or somebody who's IQ is total 50.
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But really, I don't see why everybody hated FF8 so much. My theory about it is this: It was because it was by Square. If it was by a different company, it woulda sold a lot more (or not at all, depending on the company and how they did it).
Er... The Series of Final Fantasy is, and has to my knowledge, always been done by Square. They just merged with Enix latter and became known as Square Enix.
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But really, I don't see why everybody hated FF8 so much. My theory about it is this: It was because it was by Square. If it was by a different company, it woulda sold a lot more (or not at all, depending on the company and how they did it).
And did anybody try this (really, I'm not sure): Rewrite FF8's story. Same story, but make it BETTER.
I fully believe the opposite - that FF8 only did as well as it did because it was made by Square and had the "Final Fantasy" in the title. Not to knock your liking of the game, but a lot of gamers didn't like it at all and probably only picked it up because they enjoyed other FF titles and figured 8 couldn't be that bad.
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I fully believe the opposite - that FF8 only did as well as it did because it was made by Square and had the "Final Fantasy" in the title. Not to knock your liking of the game, but a lot of gamers didn't like it at all and probably only picked it up because they enjoyed other FF titles and figured 8 couldn't be that bad.
That exactly.
Some people wanted to see Cloud or Squall in SSBB. Mixing two three things that don't blend together.
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It was because it was by Square. If it was by a different company, it woulda sold a lot more
Yes, I'm sure Square are really kicking themselves about the seventh best selling playstation game ever.
Goshdarn if only someone else had made it. Then maybe they'd have sold more than a measly 6 million copies.
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Some people wanted to see Cloud or Squall in SSBB. Mixing two three things that don't blend together.
Each Final Fantasy is unique in its own way, crossovers should never really be done.
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Each Final Fantasy is unique in its own way, crossovers should never really be done.
*Unless it's Dissidia
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*Unless it's Dissidia
I've not played dissisia, but imo i think its square trying to copy the Kingdom Hearts idea but keep it FF only
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Dissidia isn't that good though. Kind of a boring fighting game, with the only real novelty that you're playing old FF heroes and villians. The core of the game isn't that fun. It's not nothing on Smash Bros, which was designed from the ground up to be wacky good times.
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Dissidia isn't that good though. Kind of a boring fighting game, with the only real novelty that you're playing old FF heroes and villians. The core of the game isn't that fun. It's not nothing on Smash Bros, which was designed from the ground up to be wacky good times.
I like Smash Bros better for parties, but Dissidia has a good fighting system and is great for 1p, at least in my opinion (and also IGN's http://psp.ign.com/objects/904/904962.html). I enjoy the 1stish/3rd person view also, and the wide playing fields. It does bear similarities to kingdom hearts, however, the variety of characters (with different fighting styles), and the time sensetive commands really do keep you on your toes, especially the duel parts (when you are locked in time and alternate blocking and attacking with an opponent).
Even if Smash Bros is better, one game being better than another doesn't make the lesser game bad.
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Dissidia isn't that good though. Kind of a boring fighting game, with the only real novelty that you're playing old FF heroes and villians. The core of the game isn't that fun. It's not nothing on Smash Bros, which was designed from the ground up to be wacky good times.
That and Gilgamesh isn't a bonus character.
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Hooray! Iiiiiiii'll wait for download. I just want a few more games to play. FF is always nice.