Charas-Project
Off-Topic => All of all! => Topic started by: fruckert on December 13, 2009, 02:45:59 AM
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Link (http://rdmag.com/New-To-Market/2009/12/New-to-Market-First-commercial-3-D-bio-printer-makes-human-tissue-and-organs/).
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This is highly conflicted news for me.
While we can now create human organs now, and that's terrific news in a way (Organ transplant failed? Load up your own DNA into the machine and make yourself a new one), we're also probably not too far away from playing mad scientist with it.
Seeing as it can already make organs, it's more than likely that they're going to try to push the limits of the machine. Why not see if we can make complete organisms, fresh off the production line?
Miss your dog? Poof, make a new one.
The possibilities are practically endless.
I can't close for ****.
Just discuss.
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Well, a plus is that look at the number of kidney and heart transplants that will go down because of this technology. It has a lot of good points to it. I do however agree with you on what could happen if they pushed the technology too far, which I am sure it will happen eventually.
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Technology is never evil; it's human nature we should be worried about. Sure you could use something like this for unethical purposes, but you can pretty much use anything for unethical purposes. Worrying about the way it can be used improperly casts a shadow on all of the very positive, very awesome, completely ethical and totally great things it would be intended to be used for.
Though this sort of seems a bit unreal. A 3D printer for organs? Either this is some sort of unusual joke or I'm way behind on technology's advancement. My work has a 3D printer for making solid models, but it just makes things out of sand and glue. I can't imagine how you would make something that's alive by putting cells in rows.
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This was posted two days ago, so apparently it's brand new technology, but the fact that they're actually selling them means that they have the technology actually very well under way.
And I must confess, most of my paranoia about this came from this ****ing insane review on stumbleupon that very gleefully awaited the day we can make organisms. For butlering purposes of course.
Oh, my god. Do you REALIZE what this means? Okay, sure, for now you're looking at skin, teeth, tissues and organs being 'printed' (built, really) and that's great news. Burn victim? Take a swab, load the tissue cylinders, and crank out new skin. Broken arm? Make a new bone, and replace the splintered section with a healthy bit grown from your own DNA. The new section would knit to your own bones in a fraction of the time it would take to heal a splintered bone. Bad heart? New one. Diabetic? We'll make you a healthy pancreas in about a day. So that's all nice. But. With the application of just a few more technologies, none of which are terribly far beyond the horizon... GARTHIM. I have always wanted an army of Garthim to do my bidding. Always. This technology isn't limited to making copies of existing organs and tissues. With a little work, it could be used to make custom-designed organisms from scratch. Improve the output of the 'printer' so it can produce multiple tissue types simultaneously, and in complex layouts. The completed organism would probably go into a bath of nutritive solution and maintenance nanobots, who would tighten and solidify connective tissue and whatnot, also allowing for diagnostics to be run on what is at that point a floating corpse. Hook up the jumper cables, send Igor to the roof with a lightning rod, and bam! It's alive! You wouldn't need or want to create a whole new cohesive DNA, just use compatible tissue types. And why bother to give a reproductive system to organisms that you'd charge for by the unit? Assuming some advances in nano and biotech, the new creature's nervous system can be preprogrammed, up to and including memories and skills that would be built in. Seriously. Yes, yes, this could be used to copy people. Not the point! Garthim! Okay, first off would probably be custom pets for the super rich and eccentric crowd. I'm thinking, iridescent beetles the size and temperament of housecats. Maybe tropical fish, made bigger, given multiple legs, made air-breathing and programmed to use the litter box. Maybe tiny people with pretty butterfly wings that speak in musical whistles and love to dance. Dude. I'm not kidding. Faerie pets are not just possible with this technique, they're probable. From there, military types and corporate psychos will vanguard the advance into a whole new tier of bioweapons. Great big dumb brutes that simply kill on command. Stealthy creatures with horrific poison and stealth capabilities to guard or infiltrate, seeking a preselected and designated prey. Or, my inner mad genius screams in glee, gigantic crustacean/reptiles with rudimentary intelligence, immunity to pain, and no drive other than to obey my commands! GARTHIM! BRING ME A PIZZA!
Tell me that is not utterly horrifying.
I will call you a liar.
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The poster's name and post gives the conclusion he really is quite a bastard
=P
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If it's made in the US, I don't want it replacing my bad spleen.
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durr
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What's old is new again.
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I heard about this, it isn't fake. They have been working on this for a while now. It was on a TV documentary/thing on immortality.
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Why do people want to stay alive longer? We live long enough.
Accept death already.
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Why do people want to stay alive longer? We live long enough.
Accept death already.
Well, what about young people? Even children are born with poor hearts. It could save millions of lives. This is amazing. It's terrifying the possibilities, but amazing as well
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Where do they get the human cells from?
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Prisons.
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I have to agree with Prpl. Why live longer than one already can?
What are you saying? You want us to stop natural selection? You want those malfunctioning babies to grow up, and have more malfunctioning kids?
Heil.
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My wife has a bad heart.
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Come on... Zombie Apocalypse... Come oooon....
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Five years ago, expect the government to have a huge army of super soldiers.
fixed
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Where do they get the human cells from?
This is my thoughts too. Now introducing the worlds most expensive toner. Seriously though, it can't just be any-old cells either; seeing as tissue cells are different for just about every organ. (I think.) That being said, how do we harvest specific tissue cells without having to harvest the organ itself, and if we have the organ itself, why don't we just use that. Unless this avoids the whole donor compatibility process, it doesn't really sound that hashed out.
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From what I have heard it is kinda like graphting (sp?) skin, they have been able to do that I'm pretty sure for a while for Burn patients. (If I'm wrong PLEASE correct me. I'm trying to remember to a health discussion about 5 years ago)
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This reminds me of a **** film I watched last night called Outpost.
About loads of Nazi zombies which can't die.
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From what I have heard it is kinda like graphting (sp?) skin, they have been able to do that I'm pretty sure for a while for Burn patients. (If I'm wrong PLEASE correct me. I'm trying to remember to a health discussion about 5 years ago)
You know that a majority of skin grafting jobs receive the extra skin from the patient's extra *** skin right? That being said, our new hearts will be made from our anus?