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Off-Topic => All of all! => Topic started by: Felix-0 on August 10, 2010, 11:20:52 PM
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I go into my senior year tommorow!
Any tips?
lol
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Uh.. do your stuff. People say that your senior year doesn't count towards college much. This is a LIE. Do the best you can. Do NOT slack off. Also, if you have the opportunity to take college level courses, do it. I get out of a math class and a history class in college thanks to an AP US History class and a dual enrollment campus class.
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adopt an attitude that will actually benefit you in the years to come. Nobody takes freerunning, silly haircuts, or people prone to whining fits seriously in the workforce.
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As someone who's out of college and has a full time job, let me give you the alternate advice: f it. Seriously, f it. Screw around, don't care, blow stuff off. Cuz guess what. This is basically your last chance. That type of attitude will NEVER fly in college or at work. This is basically your realistic last chance to act like a kid. Don't waste it studying for too many AP courses.
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Also, never say "lol". Ever.
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Also, never say "lol". Ever.
lol nah.
Unless you mean in real life, in which case, die.
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That's waaaaay too expensive to do here.
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I'm going to a state school.. luckily my financial aid covers a lot of it. All I have are some Federal Sub and unsub loans.
And I got a nice $600 scholarship from the music department. That's also I nice help. Especially since this music department doesn't usually give out scholarships...
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Yeah.
Its not completely government run, but state funded.
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Wow, really? Lucky bitch.
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See, all of our arts programs are pretty hard to get into (unless if you go to a school that has like 5 fine arts majors. Or in the case of a university near me, all of your music students play trumpet badly or sing with their lungs filled with Cigarette smoke, and either way they suck.)
I'm going to a school that has over 100 music majors. =D
Er, to clarify, because its big doesn't make it good, but it does make it harder to get into for me (as more people audition to go there) I made it into a smaller school just as easy be decided on here.
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Pretty much. I'm going for music education, so I don't expect to be getting rich anytime soon. Although, I do plan on getting a doctorate eventually...
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Haha, alright. But I don't think it will be anytime soon.
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You guys have to pay to go to a state school?
....You remember all those times they told us America was the greatest country on earth? Lies, all lies!
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....You remember all those times they told us America was the greatest country on earth? Lies, all lies!
I second that.
And Felix: senior year is the last time you have to goof off, like Sai said. But don't over do it, because the last thing you need is to be expelled a few weeks before graduating. Damn, that sucked for him.
And now I'm off to college, to study mechanical engineering.
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I go into my senior year tommorow!
Any tips?
lol
Pick on dah fressshmen >= D....Errr I mean...Try to respect your peers and behave yourself! It's up to you to set a great example for others..
Seriously don't worry. Just study hard and try not to act like a moron and you'll do fine.
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Oh, lame. Over here its free. :P
=\ Heading into my second year I'm already a couple grand in debt. And I'm going to a community college. I could pay it off in a year or so just working, but still, when I transfer to an actual state college, the debt I'll be in then is terrifying.
So yeah, don't let AP courses blow your mind. Plenty of kids I know studied real hard and failed the AP Final, meaning they didn't get any college credits for the class, meaning it was basically a waste of time (Other than learning stuff). AP courses are far more intense then college courses anyway, in my opinion. I just wish through out my education I was actually prepared for a college workload.
Anywho, I'd take Gem's advice going into college and partly Sai's advice for your last year of high school. I mean, don't completely blow everything off, but don't spend hours studying for an AP final unless you're confident you can actually get the credits.
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I only took AP history classes. I stayed far away from math and science course. O.o
I really wish I would've taken the AP Music Theory class though. =/
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Fun fact. All school is free over here AND we get paid to go there.
Well, at first our parents get paid if we are in school, then when we finally reach 18 we can claim the cash for ourselves since we're of age.
And then we get more money the higher we study.
And yet we like to complain that we can't afford to live near school.
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Fun fact. All school is free over here AND we get paid to go there.
Well, at first our parents get paid if we are in school, then when we finally reach 18 we can claim the cash for ourselves since we're of age.
And then we get more money the higher we study.
And yet we like to complain that we can't afford to live near school.
Can I come live with you?
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Looks like a win-win situation, Prpl... I'm so jealous...
By the time I get out of college, I'll be in so much debt. I pretty much have to juggle a part-time job and school to pay off some of my loans before they start building up in interest.
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Looks like a win-win situation, Prpl... I'm so jealous...
By the time I get out of college, I'll be in so much debt. I pretty much have to juggle a part-time job and school to pay off some of my loans before they start building up in interest.
I'm lucky, my loans don't start collecting interest until I'm done with my associates.
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Stupid Scandinavian countries, always gotta be so perfect at everything
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I'm still deciding if I want to even go down a tertiary education path. A Visual Arts certificate would probably help with getting into the photography industry, which is what I want to do, but I'm still undecided. Start my second last year of highschool next year.
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Ya'll realize it's not really free, right? What they get in free education now they pay back in higher tax rates for the rest of their lives, including the ones that didn't even make it through the college system. The government can't wave a magic wand and make teachers work for nothing and equipment appear out of nowhere.
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Ya'll realize it's not really free, right? What they get in free education now they pay back in higher tax rates for the rest of their lives, including the ones that didn't even make it through the college system. The government can't wave a magic wand and make teachers work for nothing and equipment appear out of nowhere.
Yeah we get some high taxes, but that's what you get for free daycare, education and hospitals - even dental care 'till you're 20.
Still, feels like it's pretty worth it. Everyone pays a lot. So the prices on stuff are set so people can buy stuff. So any person with a job can pretty much afford a huge and flat tv, video games, insurances, cars, vacations to other parts of the EU, computers that can juggle and pour soda in your face.
It work 'cuz it's been like this for so long, making the rich richer and giving the not-so-rich more expenses would only create a pretty big gap.
If we paid less taxes it would make little difference for the rich while the average person would get it tough. We don't have to compromise to send our kids to school for the day, fix your broken legs, search for genitals for STDs, get an abortion or avoid scurvy.
So in the end - everyone still have money left and can get what they like.
Everyone can get an education and do what they want without the need of 15 years of savings or rich parents. The possibilities are there, you just gotta decide what you want to do and where you want to be.
EDIT: Oh, and our teachers pretty much works for nothing.
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Yeah, a socialist economic system is all well and fine. Except that nothing is free....ever. You could spout off a bunch of benefits of INGSOC from 1984 and make it sound just as good.
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It's not free but it's a lot cheaper.
Kinda like going together with your friends to buy something. If you divide the cost among many it will be very little for lots of people.
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That... I don't...
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It's not free but it's a lot cheaper.
In more ways than one.
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It's not free but it's a lot cheaper.
Kinda like going together with your friends to buy something. If you divide the cost among many it will be very little for lots of people.
Except you make random people off the street pay for what you and your friends are buying.
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If 1 million people pays 1 dollar each for something that costs 1 million dollars for example a school - it's gonna be way more efficient than having the school pay 1 million dollars by itself.
Everyone can afford to pay one dollar, few will be willing to part with a million dollars.
It's also worth mentioning that our schools are government owned as well so it's for everyone and not just the ones who have the money.
If schools are expected to have the latest equipment, computers, teachers and all that they need to pay a lot for it. And the students / their parents are the ones who have to pay for all that if you live in a place of capitalism.
So you could say that even some of you pay for what other students are using and not just what you. Like lab equipment, sport equipment and so on.
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Yeah, public schools in the US are tax-paid, which everyone pays. What that basically means is that there is no real quality control for schools in any part of the US, which means some public schools can be pretty crappy, unless you specifically pick out a high quality public school district (which my parents were like obsessed with doing) or have the money to burn to go to a quality-controlled private school.
The point I guess is that there is no country/government that uses completely all capitalism or all socialism (maybe the latter, but that might just be a generalization of what I was taught about communist russia and china back as a high school sophomore.) For things like video games, T.V. models and channels, and movies, capitalism is used to ensure that the highest quality amusing stuff is the most profitable and successful, whereas for things like water supply, roads, and electricity, it's "socialist" or government owned and paid by everyone's taxes, since a huge majority of the people use these resources, and imagining capitalist roads (competing roadways you have to pay for to drive on) would just be silly (the downside being that there's little quality control or preference, so you might have to deal with things like potholes in your roads, crappy traffic lights, questionable tap water, or power outages. In which case, if that's getting annoying, the best thing you can do is find others who agree that is annoying and start a petition to get your local government to fix the problem). And sometimes, like for school, you've got a choice.
The thing with Scandinavian schools, it seems, especially for higher education, seems to be that it's all government paid, whereas even for our public higher education, there is some tuition to pay. On one hand, this encourages more people in Scandinavia to uptake high education; in theory, that would make more members of the society capable of achieving higher statuses in the country and being more successful. The problem is that the schools are not quite as well funded, which depends strongly on how high the taxes are. As Prpl noted, the teachers basically are working for free/very low wage (similar to how teachers work for public schools in our 1st and 2nd level education), and without pay as an incentive, it sometimes can be hard to find people willing to take up jobs in those universities and teach with zeal. Here, in the US, I've attended a public university (halfway across the country in SoCal, which sort of defeated the purpose of taking it up, since the cost was still the same as your typical private school) and even then, there were some teachers that were good at picking out interesting topics, making new fields of research and study interesting to students (That was probably just UCSB being a party school, but whatever). You still have to pay to go, and might not even make it that far with the money you've got, but the people working there are determined to make it a learning experience.
I can't say much for Scandinavia in terms of how their university classes work or how they are to experience. Since I will never be able to experience that, nor will Prpl probably be willing to give up something free to see what an American university is like, it's a bit hard to compare quality, and the matter of whether purely government paid universities are better or worse than the tuition we have to pay as students is purely up to ones opinion. Since my parents are apparently rich as ****, We seem to fly with the latter.
I'll probably correct some of the erroneous information above after I check stuff. Also, Probably everyone already knows the **** I've just said. So I don't know.
TL;DR version:
Fully tax-paid higher education:
+ Pretty much everyone is encouraged to go and become better educated
- Possibly a lower quality education due to low-paid professors
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Partial or full tuition with Public/Private US Colleges:
- You have to pay an arm and a leg to get in and show them you're capable
+ You learn a lot of interesting stuff from professors paid heartily to teach or research
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If 1 million people pays 1 dollar each for something that costs 1 million dollars for example a school - it's gonna be way more efficient than having the school pay 1 million dollars by itself.
Everyone can afford to pay one dollar, few will be willing to part with a million dollars.
Okay, 1) everyone paying 1 dollar is like a model of gross inefficiency, since it takes a million more effort to make sure that everyone paid the right amount and sent it in at the right time and all that.
But more to the point, no matter how much you spread the costs among the population, the prices are the same. So if you pay high tuition now you have to have a lot of money upfront but then you're done. Or if you pay low or no tuition now, you get your education for free, but you're paying the higher taxes for the rest of your life. The $1 a million times argument makes the second way sound awesome since nobody expects $1s to add up to much, even over a lifetime, but it's not like tuition in the states is a million bucks, so it's kind of misleading like that.
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Did a "back to school" topic seriously turn into a debate about economics?
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What the hell is wrong with us?
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Commit suicide now with me.
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Plus, I very sure that living in Sweden leads to a much easier and happier life than in the US.
The US consistently ranks worse than other industrialized (first world) nations in terms of poverty, inequality, life expectancy, infant mortality, high school dropout rate, etc. etc.
Regarding happiness, I think this map (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/2f/Happy_Planet.PNG) says it all. It's based on the Happy Planet Index. The happiest countries and bright green; the least happy are brown. That's right, we're down there with Russia and sub-Saharan Africa.
There are a number of reasons for this, but economic debate aside, I think the facts speak for themselves: what we're doing right now is not working. The more -- gasp! -- "socialist" countries are actually much better off than we are.
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There are a number of reasons for this, but economic debate aside, I think the facts speak for themselves: what we're doing right now is not working. The more -- gasp! -- "socialist" countries are actually much better off than we are.
Environmentally. The HPI seems to be more of a measure of countries' ecological footprint.
As such, the HPI is not a measure of which are the happiest countries in the world. Countries with relatively high levels of life satisfaction, as measured in surveys, are found from the very top (Colombia in 6th place) to the very bottom (the USA in 114th place) of the rank order. The HPI is best conceived as a measure of the environmental efficiency of supporting well-being in a given country. Such efficiency could emerge in a country with a medium environmental impact (e.g. Costa Rica) and very high well-being, but it could also emerge in a country with only mediocre well-being, but very low environmental impact (e.g. Vietnam).
So what that's saying is that the US is really shitty at conserving the environment. And that is no secret.
Wait, what the hell does this have to do with going back to school!? I'm not an economics or ecology major! Dammit!
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We're actually dead last still? I'm not sure I believe that. I work in industry and there are some ridiculously obnoxious disposal regulations for chemicals and stuff. I have a hard time believing 3rd world countries follow the waste disposal laws we have here.
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I'd think they don't have as many (or as bad) environmentally unsafe products showing up.
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There's still the 250 million or so motor vehicles driving around the US today, only a few of which are hybrids or other enviro-friendly stuff, probably because many people want to hold on to their valuable cars for as long as possible. I honestly can see us going uphill in the future, but the shear size of heavy industry and volume of cars and cattle and other pollutant creating things certainly explains the US's crappy HPI rank on that map. For me, at least.
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Yeah, you're right about the HPI, Bluhman. Now I'm surprised Sub-Saharan Africa is so terrible in that regard. How could they possibly be all that damaging to the environment?
Here's another list of the happiest countries based on a gallup poll:
http://www.forbes.com/2010/07/14/world-happiest-countries-lifestyle-realestate-gallup-table.html
The US finishes a much more respectable #14, but the top 5 is still dominated by the Scandinavian bloc. Denmark is #1. Not a surprise, we Danes are pretty amazing.
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Leaving for college on Thursday.
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But you are american...
I'm of Danish ancestry! I have a super-Danish last name!
Here in America, we try to play up our foreign/exotic-ness.
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Mine is...
eastern european... All it does is get wrong pronunciations (and sometimes not even in the same ball-park planet)
I leave for marching band auditions on Friday, then band camp starts Saturday. Classes start the 30th for me.
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Guevara. It gets some pretty horrendous mispronunciations.
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So I think we can all agree Australia is the best country ever, right?
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Guevara. It gets some pretty horrendous mispronunciations.
gweh-var-ah? gweh-vare-ah? guay-var-ah? guay-vare-ah?
Boboige. I... I don't even know why.
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Guevara. It gets some pretty horrendous mispronunciations.
El Che!!!
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People consistently can't pronounce a really easy Scottish name because of the ****ing Gilmore Girls.
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El Che!!!
Whoa, like Che? If yes, then **** yes, its very awesome.
Yeah, despite this, people still can't get it right. "Guava", "Guerrero", and "Vaguera" are all common (and very wrong) pronunciations. Easy as pie to pick out telemarketers. Kind of funny, too.
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I have no idea how you're supposed to say that.
Boh-boy-jih
^That probably won't help you though.
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Boh-boy-jih
^That probably won't help you though.
That's about what I'd guess.
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You're in the minority. x.x
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My name is... extremely unique, so I'm not even going to give a hint except that it's a Native American name.
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Fujiwara. That's me. Not Missingname.
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But you are japanese!
Wrong. I have no Japanese in me whatsoever.
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I'm packing for college right now... I think I have everything. Is there anything that you think I will think of later and be like, "shiiiiit"?
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Toilet paper.
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Hahaha, I actually thought of that. Nice use of my words, though.
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A time machine to go to when you were a kid. Or while your in college learn how to create a time machine or eternal youth.
I'm counting on you to provide this.
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A towel.
An umbrella.
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Hm, I didn't think of an umbrella...
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A) I'm a music major, I don't have time for girls.
B) I'm a poor college student. What money?
C) Hm... could be useful.
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You've got to have money. (http://wevegottohavemoney.ytmnd.com/)
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You've got to have money. (http://wevegottohavemoney.ytmnd.com/)
lods of emone (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ON-7v4qnHP8)
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A) I'm a music major, I don't have time for girls.
I'm going into engineering. Naturally, I have no social skills.
B) I'm a poor college student. What money?
Yup...
C) Hm... could be useful.
Oh yah, ya betcha.
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Alright, well, I'm heading off, I'm not sure when I'll have internet access again (or time to get on for that matter) but I should be back on after next week at the latest
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Hey kids, special public service announcement! If you move into a new apartment for skool, MAKE SURE YOU HAVE THE INTERNET SET UP ASAP! Because you will be hopelessly lost and crippled in a strange town without it.
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Then starve yourself so you can afford it. It's worth it.
Alternatively: 419 scams
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Hey kids, special public service announcement! If you move into a new apartment for skool, MAKE SURE YOU HAVE THE INTERNET SET UP ASAP! Because you will be hopelessly lost and crippled in a strange town without it.
Fact.
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Then starve yourself so you can afford it. It's worth it.
(http://img256.imageshack.us/img256/209/iagreebonus.png)
We all miss Archem
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I just got my internet working since being here Friday. Band Camp here is really hard, but fun. I've memorized the music for the four movements of our Planets show (Gustov Holst's The Planets; Mars, Venus, Uranus, and Jupiter), our version of Amazing Grace, and a song the director composed called Crimson Xpress. ...in the last three days.
My dorm is the only one on campus withOUT A/C... so I have this nice large fan in my room. I am also in the only one without wi-fi. Ugh. Freaking ethernet cable...
Also, the cafe food doesn't agree well with the digestive system after a while... since the only good stuff is the pasta... so I've had pasta for lunch and dinner the past 4 days... bad idea.
I am also in the farthest dorm on campus from everything. Its a good 35 minute walk to the freshman parking lot... and I don't have all my books yet. -.-"
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No AC?! Where the hell do you live??
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Pennsylvania. And it sucks. I'm in the only dorm on campus without it. You walk outside and it gets cooler.
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Yay! We've been getting so much rain lately, the science center roof is leaking in many places.
And our food is surprisingly good.
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Lucas, that does make me feel better, but I feel bad for you.
Missing Name. I had to march out if all the rain we've been getting. There is a girl in my section that is so sick her speech has been impaired. (Her throat got all swollen up and she is still at band camp everyday.)
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Ouch. I'm sorry still.
Well, unless you have a cool family, then not so much. I wanted to go to a school more than 3 hours away to get away from mine... that didn't work so I'm only an hour away.
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Living far away ain't all its cracked up to be. There's just something about being able to dump your dirty laundry in a washer for free.
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Living far away ain't all its cracked up to be. There's just something about being able to dump your dirty laundry in a washer for free.
I'd rather pay for that than be at home with the it I call a sister.
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What are you talking about? Are you saying that you actually have to wash your clothes? Whats wrong with wearing them until they rot? Sounds much cheaper if you ask me.
There's a happy medium. Mine is two and a half weeks.
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I head back to school this tuesday. I'm not really ready. So if I don't post much, like I haven't been posting much as it is, then you know why.
This seems the appropriate thread for it, so: when does everyone head back to school?
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Well, classes started last Monday for me, but I've been here since the 19th.
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Wait, for some reason I thought you were an englishmen, where do you live?
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Fully tax-paid higher education:
+ Pretty much everyone is encouraged to go and become better educated
- Possibly a lower quality education due to low-paid professors
VS
Partial or full tuition with Public/Private US Colleges:
- You have to pay an arm and a leg to get in and show them you're capable
+ You learn a lot of interesting stuff from professors paid heartily to teach or research
I know this is kinda far behind where we are in this topic now, but I'd like to point out that it's not always like that. America's colleges are well respected, yes, BUT they are not the best in the world. The best ones in the world (currently) are in Tokyo, which are free.
It's a capitalist fallacy that you are stating that you get what you pay for. It doesn't always work that way. Canada's health care is free (paid by taxes) and America's is not. Which country has the better medical facilities? According to studies, Canada, by a long shot.
I'd also like to point out that Socialism and Communism are not the same thing.
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Wait, for some reason I thought you were an englishmen, where do you live?
He lives in Brazil... o.o
Bahaha. Wow.
Thanks to Federal Student aid and some lovely scholarships, I'm not paying a leg. Maybe a hand.
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Here it's free, but we're stuck with the lags. It isn't rare to wait hours in line because 75 person who caught a cold judged necessary to abuse the free health care to see a doctor and waste people who really need to see one's time. I'm one of them 75.
I kid, I kid.
However, medicine or whatever can cost a lot, some times. But then, insurances pay it back. You still need the funds, though. That, or you only pay a small portion of it. Or, some times, you don't pay a single cent. It all depends on the insurance your job or whatever gives you.
As for dental care... they separated from the rest. Having a single tooth removed, if you're very not-lucky, can cost over 400$. If you're lucky, about 80$. Screw you dentists!
Also, I'm back to school as well. Adult school, though. Sucks. A lot. Working at your own rhythm isn't as great as it sounded.