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Off-Topic => All of all! => Topic started by: HackersTotalMassLaser on January 18, 2011, 05:46:27 PM
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Yes Final Fantasy 13-2 was announced today/yesterday (depending on location)
And even a short trailer was shown http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GuJ9ooz7cIE
Seriously, I know this will probably weirdly tie it somehow with Versus (modern time-esque)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pU1PfjhLI1s
With both taking place in the same universe and all. (IIRC)
But Lightning's new design is already looking like the redesigns from X-2... A horrible entry to the series is getting an even more horrible direct sequel. Gaf, the FF series have been doomed since 7.
So, yeah who's played FF13?
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Never played 13. 14 has been terrible.
I think 9 was the doom point for FF.
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IX was the last good one, if you ask me.
VIII wasn't fantastic, but I know a lot of people will disagree with me.
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Some, including me, will agree with you, though. Didn't like VIII. And yeah, IX was the last good one.
At least, their last was my favourite.
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I have only played I and II.
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VIII wasn't fantastic
In your opinion.
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That's the beauty of it.
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By my comment, I mean 9 was the last good one, not the first **** one.
I liked 9 more then 7. It took itself less seriously, and the ability system had the most natural feeling FF system to it.
I wish Square wasnt so afraid of embracing its retro appeal. It seems to like to mask it with bunny ears and convoluted graphics.
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I played XIII. I rather enjoyed it... But a XIII-2? Hasn't Square learned from that last complete fail?
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X-2 really isn't all that bad. They tried something new and just failed a bit.
And since noone wanted to make the story since sequels suck they invited a team that thought that charlie's angels was a good idea for a FF story.
And well, not much to say about the sequel based on that trailer. But they better make a bunch of improvements since I rated FFXIII just above XII.
Nice look and graphics, sound was okay, never bonded with the characters and the role system. But a but too much linnearity and sci fi for my taste.
Ps, the link doesn't work anymore.
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X-2 probably had the best battle system of the entire series. It was pretty fun if you ignore the utterly awful story. Anyway this wioll probably be really awful. I mean, it's a sequel to FF13. It can't not be awful.
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X-2 had fantastic gameplay. If they'd put the same effort into the story it would have been fine.
Well, apart from Shuyin being a plot-hole the size of the Sun.
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... didn't really like X-2's gameplay even. Changing jobs in battle was a nifty touch, but that's about it. There were too few fights for as much BSing around with minigames and cutscenes as there were.
Didn't play XIII, have no desire to play XIII, don't care about strange sequel.
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Weird how this board went from FF lovers to like neutral FF fans.
I guess a lot people didn't like FF13. Which is with good reason. it sucked major bones.
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Oh, I still love FF games. 4, 6, 7, and 9 are great. Even 10 grew on me, a little like a fungus, but it was there.
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IX is actually my favourite. And to be completely honest I thought X was really well done as well. The characters weren't as likeable as IX I think but they were still memorable and the story and game were well crafted. If we had to choose the point of no return I'd say it's XI if that even counts. If not, then XII.
EDIT: Also VIII sucked girl balls.
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Weird how this board went from FF lovers to like neutral FF fans.
Kinda like how Square went from being a good developer to a ****ing awful one.
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Liking Final Fantasy has gone out of vogue. All the cool nerds are jaded about the series.
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It's not our fault that the series has taken a turn for the terminal gonorrhea.
I mean worst.
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What are you talking about? We've had Final Fantasy 12, 13 and 1-
Oh God. You're all right.
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XII was horrible both story and gameplaywise. I'd like to try that "Final mix" version of it though with the class systems.
IX was a game which was a tribute to the original series, steam/ mist engines, swords, spells, castle and crystals. And Vivi is the most memorable RPG character ever.
X was good, I liked it more than 7 and 8, sure the story surrounding the main char was all fugged(like every main chars since FF4) I liked the sphere grid, I liked the feeling of the game, the battles were fun and overall amazing. It was all less sci-fi and more rpg.
X-2 had this "sequel thing" going on, the worst thing that can happen. Imagine all 13 games taking place in the same world...
Anyway, interesting battle system, although the waiting times are a bit awful, also it was nice that you could gain AP by using abilities. It kinda reversed the "Use regular attacks > is the enemy dead? NO: repeat". Liked that you could change classes mid battle, that was annoying with the previous class games (3 and 5) it was one of the better systems of FFX.
But the story seemed to be a fanfic, character mating, new enemies rising, Yuna in hotpants completely reversed from the previous game were she was all innocent and shy.
So overall great game with awful story, also I'm not fond of mission games.
XIII was... Well, it was cool to begin with, all hyped with the characters - switching between parties. But then stuff started to make no sense, terms and uses of words left and right. Fal'cie, Cie'th, Pulse Fal'cie ect, Cocoon, Gran Pulse. It felt like reading the third book in a trilogy where the writer expect you to know everything mentioned.
Game progressed with some nameless dungeons with enemeis I can't remember. Then you get your roles, which are basically "use what the game suggest you should do" with the auto command. Medics can only heal, ravagers can only cast spells, only commanders can use regular attacks. Spells cost no mp and there basically no penalty for leaving the battle in bad shape, status probbed or dead.
The game heals you after battles and if you die you can pick game over and start before you entered the fight.
It was a game of looks but a gameplay so linear... Half the game took place over at some place you couldn't even return to. And the other half was pretty much optional. You could just run all the way, and you see these large "gods" that you can't even kill.
I played through it, fixed the highest rank of the "quests" and leveled my characters to the max level. I still haven't felt the urge to replay this.
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Oh, I still love FF games. 4, 6, 7, and 9 are great. Even 10 grew on me, a little like a fungus, but it was there.
Let's not forget how you lost your life to FF11 for like 2 years or so. <<
Personally, I love 13 and I hope the second one will be worth playing. :) (awaits the omfgwtfruinsane!? comments)
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Not insane. You just like corridors a lot, I guess.
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<<...You mean...those things that are in most games? Yeah, I guess so. =/
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No, just the stuff that's IN final fantasy 13. Where you get corridors even in open spaces.
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Even the dungeons were basically "run straight ahead".
FFX had the same time of linnearity, but at least you could return to those places.
And there were towns, there are neither towns nor NPCs in 13. None that you can interact with.
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Even FF1 was less linear!
Haven't played FFXIII, but heard/read enough to not want to play. Never liked FFX. Won't try XII either and XI... no, just no. Same with XIV.
No world travel by Airship is not fun for me. I just loved being able to wander around the World, sometimes finding "secret" spots, etc. Seems like something all FF's past IX lacks. Haven't played them all, but that's what I've heard/read. Maybe the story's good and all, but meh...
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<<...You mean...those things that are in most games? Yeah, I guess so. =/
Yeah but FFXIII is a corridor simulator compared to most games. I don't think Square even have a level designer. They probably fired him so they could spend more money on giving that Vanille person the most annoying voice known to man.
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Let's not forget how you lost your life to FF11 for like 2 years or so. <<
Two years is very generous >_>
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Personally I'd prefer long corridors to the wide open endless deserts of FFXII.
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Personally I'd prefer long corridors to the wide open endless deserts of FFXII.
This
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That may be true, but at least FF12 had some parts that could classify as dungeons. There was a cave in XIII, but you pretty much just ran right through it to get out on the other side without even fighting a boss. But you did see a Fal'cie on the way out.
FFXIII was a lot like Resident evil 5 in that matter, but no puzzles whatsoever. Following the pebbled road will lead you to the right place, and if you don't open that chest - you never will be able to.
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This
If you haven't played FF13 Zerls, then you know not corridors. If they put that desert on XIII it wouldn't matter, it'll be a single road all the way.
What does it mean? All the way...
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Double rainbow all the way across the sky?
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Two years is very generous >_>
Lawl if you say so. :)
Personally I'd prefer long corridors to the wide open endless deserts of FFXII.
I kind of agree. But then again, I'm not that picky. :D
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I'd actually run through monster infested plains where I can wander off into the jaws of a behemoth rather than being forced to follow a narrow road and more or less engaging every enemy on screen unless I use some world map item while every "chest"(see: metallic floating orb) is placed 1,5 feet away from the main path.
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haha, I go to look up some videos on FFXII and XIII and you still see people arguing over FFVII. **** is ridiculous.
I'm going to sound like a total n00b, but I've already lost my pride to Zerl, soooo I heard somewhere that some high-up guy in squenix wanted to reply to all the fanboys having heart attacks over the "subpar" nature of the new FFs, and, reportedly, he said they simply can't make games with as much extra content as they used to while matching the graphical standards they've set for themselves. Simply put, it would take an enormous amount of time and effort to add all that extra content, which would mean extra graphical content.
I don't know, I read this on some random site, so I'm doubtful of its authenticity. Any one want to corroborate that story?
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If that's true, then they should realize from the bitching that even though people agree that the games are pretty, people are appreciating substance over style a lot these days.
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I rarely hear a good argument for substance over graphics when it comes to FF. Its mostly just "wahhh. FF7 was a model and *piss moan*".
Also, I'm ignoring zerl and archem.
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I loved Final Fantasy XIII. Haters gonna hate.
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I liked VI (Good plot and characters), VII (Great plot. I mean the original game by itself, before the Complication started.), IX (The characters are just so great and well-developed), XIII (XII? The one with Balthier, the Gayest Straight Man On Ivalice), Tactics (Quite probably the best Tactics style game before the PS2 brought Disgaea in) and Tactics Advance II.
X felt just "uhh....", The PSP remake of the first game was okay, but perhaps I needed nostalgia googles I didn't have to fully appreciate it.
Dissidia doesn't count. I liked it, to an extent, but it's simply not final fantasy, or at least what I understand as "Final Fantasy".
Dirge of Cerberus, the same, but I take away the "I liked it" part.
The movie sucked. Advent Children was a great fight sequence. not a movie, just a big, great, wonderful battle scene with great special effects.
I don't think I ever played other Final Fantasy games. Kingdom Hearts, if you want to stretch it.
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Wait, this is charas and the thread is in it's fourth page, we're still talking about Final Fantasy here?
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I've never played Final Fantasies I-VI.
Although I should...
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You know what, really, forget my last post, this has all gone too far. I'm splitting the thread, no more words about Dren please. Let's get back on topic and leave the man alone.
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Yeah, good idea. Glad you can show some restraint (even if it is after you've already said something).
I've never played Final Fantasies I-VI.
Shame on you.
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You know what, really, forget my last post, this has all gone too far. I'm splitting the thread, no more words about Dren please. Let's get back on topic and leave the man alone.
Awww, it's cool. You act like I can't handle a little razzing! As if I, in my emasculated, ego deflated, mentally unstable state, which would purportedly have been a direct result of your uncanny attempts to haze me, have devised a detailed plan which I'm setting in motion this very moment to fly to where you all live, spending all my college savings fund, to murder you all with a rusty spork and how I got excellent deals on flights to Brazil on Expedia... or something! Jeeeeeez! pffff
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A bit late to split it lucas... It's not like everyone was talking about the Dren, more like you talking about the Dren.
It was all fun and games.
Also, I kinda like the first FF's more than the later, the first 6 where all fantasy-ish while 7,8, 10(I guess) and 13 where more sci fi. I kinda prefer swords over guns and airships over tazers and OMGWTF ENTERPRISE!
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No, you can still split the topic and go away with whatever nonsensical shenanigans you are bringing up upon my thread! Let it die in peace!
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I actually like a little scifi mix into fantasy games. The FF's did it pretty well, but I do also heavily enjoy the steam punk theme, especially in FF6. Probably the best theme.
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Yeah I'm all for a little sci fi, probably the best part about FFX's setting. FFIX and FF6 had the steampunk like setting going on while 7,8 and 13 is (at least to me) more sci fi than fantasy.
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I never really played 8, and (obviously with no PS3) I haven't played 13. 7 definitely had a more modern feel to it. I don't know if I'd call it sci-fi. It just replaced king's with presidents, and empires with companies.
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No, it's definitely sci-fi.
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I like XIII...all the other ones were awesome. If XIII wasn't so linear it would be marvelous.
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If XIII wasn't so linear it would be marvelous.
Indeed.
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HOT DAMN ALMEIDABOO'S HERE?!
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MASSIVE KICK ATTACK
The game's demo came out a week ago, or so, and it's surprisingly looking better than the last game in terms of linearity and story. However, there were some VERY. STUPID. limitations and problems with general gameplay and game design that I only hope, those were cause it was a demo.
So this game is coming out on the 31st. I have pre-ordered it. So I can get it by midnight. And guarantee a copy, since I live on a very FF driven area apparently (per Gamestop employee). This is one of the three games I'll review for my youtube channel, since I really want to hate on it as much as I can openly, and thoroughly.
Anyway, anybody has played the demo/plan to get it?
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Wait, you know it's going to suck, you want to hate it, and yet you have preordered it?
Oh man, it must be nice to be able to throw away money like that.
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He's going to review it, dude.
And...no.
I don't plan on getting it at all.
Or getting the demo.
I haven't cared about Final Fantasy in...well, forever. Literally.
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Wait, you know it's going to suck, you want to hate it, and yet you have preordered it?
Oh man, it must be nice to be able to throw away money like that.
I can return it for a refund after I am finished reviewing it. How if I'll be peeling off the case label and plastic wrap? I'll keep that to myself. But it involves a trip to blockbuster. Besides I actually paid 35 bucks for it. Just how I paid 28 for RE: Revelations. And maybe who knows, I might actually like it.
Pfff.
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I didn't like FF 13 after all (contradicting my last post). I loved 10 and 12 (specially), but 13 was linear in our faces. 7 is still the best, and 8 was awesome too. People like to bash FF 7 to look "cool" and angsty.
Either way, Skyrim wrecked RPGs for me. I'm playing Dragon Age 2 right now and all I think is "Dude, this sucks now."
I'm waiting anxiously for Mass Effect 3.
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Most people didn't like DA2 anyway.
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I don't like the look of this game, gives me too many flashbacks of Tales of symphonia dawn of a new world for the wii. A pair consisting of helpless girl with a cute pet and then a swordnut youth with the rest of the party being enemies you capture or something. And also it's an actual sequel, enix ain't to famous for those.
I'm hoping they're going through with the FFX revamp for ps3 and vita, also whatever happened to FFXIII VS?
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I don't like the look of this game, gives me too many flashbacks of Tales of symphonia dawn of a new world for the wii. A pair consisting of helpless girl with a cute pet and then a swordnut youth with the rest of the party being enemies you capture or something. And also it's an actual sequel, enix ain't to famous for those.
I'm hoping they're going through with the FFX revamp for ps3 and vita, also whatever happened to FFXIII VS?
Exactly my POV. AND it plays a whole lot similar like it too. Specially the part that past entry characters join the party and are AI controlled. I hated that about ToS2. ToS2 was a disappointment of one of the greatest jRPG ever., this direct sequel seems like in some areas is doing better, but I really don't like that approach.
Versus is still in development, Agito (or w/e) has been renamed type zero.
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Dawn could have been a million times better if 1) they would have removed that stupid monster capture thing; seriously, who the hell wanted that? 3) made the original characters have real equipment / leveling past like level 30 and 3) not pulled their punch on that whole "Lloyd and the old team are evil" plotline. Seriously, I've ALWAYS wanted to play a sequel where the first game's characters are the antagonists, but it's always some awkward miscommunication.
I also wasn't a fan of every boss having an attack that reduced the party to 1 HP, but that's another issue. Also, no walky overworld.
Though, I actually liked the two new characters. The pseudo love triangle plot that they strung out for the entire game was actually worth following along with. I've never gave two shits about a love story in a game before that, but they really treated Dawn's pretty well.
Game wasn't totally unplayable. Still a disappointment.
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Ike and the dudes are a bit evil in Fire emblem radiant dawn. But the rest of that storyline was messed up with **** hitting the fan.
Emule could've grown a pair throughout the entire game, and they kept throwing Richters fabulous quote in your face all the time but beside that it was rather entertaining, but not even close to as great as the original game. Starting a new game+ with your 2 lvl 99-ish lunar wolves-ish sidekicks were a bit fun, but then it stopped being entertaining.
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I work in a game store and they have these trailers they play on loop, the FFXIII-2 trailer being one of them. Can I just say that every time it comes on I want to cut my ears off.
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And now I am getting an Ad at the bottom.
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I think 9 was the doom point for FF.
I think you need a slap on the face for that.
anyway, Final Fantasies? I like 6, 7, 9 and 12.
And Tactics. Which is more a Tactics Ogre game but whatever.
I dislike Dissidia. It represents everything Squeenix is doing wrong currently.
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I dislike Dissidia. It represents everything Squeenix is doing wrong currently.
Boobs?
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Ha, I was going to bring up Radiant Dawn as "sequels can be better than the original" myself. Doubt this will be one of them, but it's possible.
As for FFXIII-2, I've seen a lot of the game around, and eh. Maybe I'd be interested if I really cared about any of the characters. It's FF; you have to go in at this point knowing the story's going to be kind of absurd, but what I've seen of this one is absurd in a way that just doesn't interest me.
I will say, I really like the character designs, though. Vanille and Fang were both well-designed in the original, and I'm glad they have more characters with that "look" to them.
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Okay so I watched some streams of this. Seems pretty much like the original game. Paradigm shifts, auto battle, reused graphics, onscreen encounters. Story seems really messed up but I'm betting that people that thought ffxiii was an okay game without counting lightning will think this is an okay game as well. Thinking about getting it since it's not at all as expensive as the original(whether that's a good thing or a sign for something waits to be seen) but I'm keeping my hopes up for the Last story and hoping that xenoblade chronicles is pretty good.
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The story is very discombobulated, because of the very messy time traveling mechanic. At some parts of the game, you don't even have an idea at what point the story continues. I have no idea how famitsu gave this 40/40. Oh yeah, I do; $$$.
And the frame rates. OMG It doesn't matter how pretty the game looks, it feels like i am playing a very laggy MMO.
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I have no idea how famitsu gave this 40/40. Oh yeah, I do; $$$.
I assume you mean "еее".
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And the frame rates. OMG It doesn't matter how pretty the game looks, it feels like i am playing a very laggy MMO.
On the ps3 or the 360?
Anyway, watched some more, seems like they fixed that crystagen-majing which acted like the sphere grid in ffx, this time it isn't affected by the storyline progress - thank god. And there's a shop in the game, although it's some crazy lady in a chocobo outfit or something.
Also what's up with all these time travel/paradox storylines these days? Do the creators think that it's the only way to stop us from predicting exactly what's going to happen next? It's just getting messy and not at all comprehensible.
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Okay so I watched some streams of this. Seems pretty much like the original game. Paradigm shifts, auto battle, reused graphics, onscreen encounters. Story seems really messed up but I'm betting that people that thought ffxiii was an okay game without counting lightning will think this is an okay game as well. Thinking about getting it since it's not at all as expensive as the original(whether that's a good thing or a sign for something waits to be seen) but I'm keeping my hopes up for the Last story and hoping that xenoblade chronicles is pretty good.
Well it's a weird mix of on-screen, and off, for battles. They appear like normal, random encounters, and poof on-screen, so you can run away, but once you touch them, it's on a new screen. It's kind of a 'best and worst of both worlds' situation.