Charas-Project
Off-Topic => All of all! => Topic started by: Brieg on May 10, 2011, 09:00:13 PM
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It couldn't be THAT hard to set one up, right?
Nothing to complex, obviously. But it would promote the generators, which are supposed to be this site's main feature. Anybody can upload a generated character design and use it as their avatar. Maps made in rpg maker with an emphasis on adventure, exploration, and treasure hunting.
As far as combat goes, the complete uniqueness of everyone's avatar would make it impossible to give everyone a battle animation, but... If we go the way of gauntlet and just have projectiles, people could customize their characters to throw weapons and cast spells.
I know nothing about coding and MMO stuff, but I wouldn't mind leading the creative aspect of it. I have a lot of ideas, but no ability to do such things.
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Nah.
If someone wants to actually do the hard work of coding this up, then sure. But otherwise nah.
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I don't think we as a community have ever completed a game, ever.
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This would require an engine to compile user chosen parts into a charaset to use in game. That would be, in other words, rather complicated in itself.
Sure, this would be really cool, but like most projects, its just far too ambitious.
Of course, if you think can get a simple beta of this running, I'd gladly help. RMXP is you're best bet because of its on mmo capabilities. I don't know too much about rmxp tho so you're gonna have to do your own research.
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we admit it. We suck. :3
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This is a classic newbie trap.
MMOs are one of the most popular game types for newbies to try and make, and they will always fail because these are really, really, really goddamn hard to make.
There is a ton to do for this, so unless we get some really good programmers, this likely isn't going to happen.
Instead, we probably need a charas themed RPG (like that thing Sai was doing a while back*), or something like that.
(*hint hint)
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Newbie?
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Oh ****, now you've done it, fruck.
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No offence meant.
It's just that MMOs are a TON of work.
Hell, even coding in proper multiplayer can take you forever to do.
Until we get some more experienced coders...I'm sorry, this just isn't going to happen.
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Uh i said in the first post i didn't know jack about how to do this, jsut geting the ideas out there. I hadn't known that you guys had become self aware of your 0 game output yet.
Congrats.
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Oh Christ, here we go...
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Yeah, it tends to be a popular bandwagon to jump on. People either wanna make an MMORPG
or some super-expansive over-the-top RPG with more choices than real life. I wish people would
set more realistic goals.
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Yeah, it tends to be a popular bandwagon to jump on. People either wanna make an MMORPG
or some super-expansive over-the-top RPG with more choices than real life. I wish people would
set more realistic goals.
This here is what I meant by "Common newbie trap"
Think small at first, then slowly become more ambitious.
That reason is why I've never published a game, because I fell for it too.
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(*hint hint)
I kind of lost interest in that when everyone decided to be jerks at me on like the same day. But I think my premise was unusally sound.
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[...]when everyone decided to be jerks at me on like the same day.[...]
...what?
I seriously don't remember what you're talking about.
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And I don't remember this either.
Maybe, unlike Lucas, you just had a Charas Nightmare?
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Maybe. I *thought* it was weird when Bruce Lee started giving me crap too.
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It's okay, Sai, I still like you, even if you are a bit of a touch hole.
Also, I'm still making AoA, and zuhane is still making Quasimodogeneticaltestical Island. Its just time consuming and will never happen. So calm down.
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I'm not talking anything Charas themed with Sai and dren going at it or anything. Just a virtual world where you explore dungeons and **** with a charas generated avatar and you need a charas account to play.
it could even be limited custimization at first instead of uploading every single piece.
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I will say, I do like that idea.
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It's a good idea, but to be honest I doubt anyone here would have the know-how to make it work. We have a couple of guys working with RPG Maker and GM, neither of which would really do this idea justice. A lot of us don't even work on games any more, or aren't in a position to commit to what would be such a big project.
It's not that any of us are unnaturally lazy, [Archem joke removed], it's just that we lack either the expertise or the free time for big projects.
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Charas themed with Sai and dren going at it
I would play this game. And I would beat dren, too.
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zuhane is still making Quasimodogeneticaltestical Island.
XD
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Also, I'm still making AoA, and zuhane is still making Quasimodogeneticaltestical Island. Its just time consuming and will never happen. So calm down.
Believe it or not, I am actually working on Kyoob.
Despite the lack of a thread and the fact that nobody's heard about it in a while, it IS making fantastic progress.
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Well what if it starts out small? Just the hub town and chat feature to start. this is more of a social forum and less of a gaming forum anyway. THEN we add in dungeons and such.
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I will say the same about AoA. I have made a lot of progress in that.
Also, I'm excited about kyoob.
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I'll do some research on hard it is to do multiplayer in Game Maker later.
However, I can't make any promises, especially considering that since GM Studio isn't out yet, I can't export games to HTML 5, which means that you'll have to download the game.
Research indicates that I could theoretically program it in Python (I have modules for networking and games already, I just suck at Python), and then use Jython (A Java implementation of Python) to compile a java applet, which could be embedded in a page, but I don't know how well that'd work, especially considering that I am not very good at programming.
Also, I must stress that even if this is more possible than I thought it was, we'd still have to do everything from the ground up, which will be very, very hard.
Knowing my work ethic, I probably won't be able to do much in this at first, unless we can find some open source work that I can build up from.
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there are other game makers out there besides the ones covered on this site. honestly why is this place even still up if no one on it partakes in the very thing that it was based on. what if a star wars fan site's members stopped liking star wars?
in 5 min of googling i found tons of legit ways to get this project up, but you all would rather struggle with the programs you don't have any ability to use.
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but you all would rather struggle with the programs you don't have any ability to use.
The **** are you talking about?
honestly why is this place even still up if no one on it partakes in the very thing that it was based on.
Because we care about more than one thing?
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Brieg, if this site is so terrible *points* there's the door.
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Why do you even come back if you dislike us so much? You're Kairou, right? I mean, you said many times we were "the worst community" and such. Why do you stay?
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I'm still confused as to what he means by "with the programs you don't have any ability to use"
He does realize that I'm an experienced GM programmer and know Python, right?
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well then Mr. Fruck, where are your games at? I and many on here can use rm2k3 and the like, but where is the product?
(ps you all brought this up.)
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Why do you even come back if you dislike us so much? You're Kairou, right? I mean, you said many times we were "the worst community" and such. Why do you stay?
Is he REALLY? I don't remember Kairou being this much of a tool.
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well then Mr. Fruck, where are your games at? I and many on here can use rm2k3 and the like, but where is the product?
(ps you all brought this up.)
Can you not read or something?
That reason is why I've never published a game, because I fell for it too.
The reason why I've never published a game is because the very first thing I tried to do was a gigantic ****ing RPG with tons of continents races and characters and got overwhelmed.
****, I'm starting to regret getting in this argument.
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Fruck, he's being an ***.
Brieg, stop being an ***.
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What's wrong with us still conversing, even when we've outgrown the original reason for the forums? We enjoy the community, so we stay. We aren't inept when it comes to making games with the maker, but most of us have lost the passion, patience, or free time to actually complete a project. We don't need someone to come here, stir up ****, and act as though we have no right to continue on the way we have been for years.
Please be civil or leave. By choice or by force, your nonsense will come to a stop.
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honestly why is this place even still up
I can't believe we've let you live as long as you have. We're well over due for a witch hunt and I rather enjoy public hangings. You can make a killing soliciting pop-corn./sarcasm
Why are you even interested in making a Charas MMO if you dislike charas so much?
Archem: touche
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Maybe a bit much there, Dren. Fuel on the fire and all that. Doesn't help when I'm trying to keep things under control.
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it was just a suggestion that i thought would pump more interest in gamemaking back into what was once one of my favorite game making community
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Archem, you've got potentially to be a pretty decent admin here, but the fatal flaw is mentioning that you're trying to keep things under control in public. ;)
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Dude, have you seen the Crappy Game threads? They may not be very long, but we actually do complete games here - and we have fun doing it, too.
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Archem, you've got potentially to be a pretty decent admin here, but the fatal flaw is mentioning that you're trying to keep things under control in public. ;)
Something about me and tact. Not sure.
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...What the...? I don't even...
Basically, the idea is nice. Hey, if there are people that have the time to do it, that's great! The idea of using a charas-generator like system is great too. Is it something that we would be interested in seeing? Sure. Who will be playing it? Who knows. With the basic animations it would have, it probably wouldn't be too popular, but it be a way to get people interested in RPG Maker. Even Fruck had said he would look into it. And he did. Isn't he nice?
Unfortunately, the number of people who know how to do a programming language appropriate for this sort of game is very minimal on charas, or even the knowledge of how to use a program for MMOs. Eclipse and XtremeWorlds are two of these programs. They aren't too bad, but getting the system for a charas-generator like character creation will take a lot of time and effort. Now, charas isn't the most bustling place for games on the internet, but there are a few things going around. Every has a project. Even if they haven't made it public. Its just the age group on the forums is mostly college age students. College students are usually busy and barely have time to relax let alone make a game. Hey, I'm one of them. I haven't been able to touch RPG Maker in a few months because of my schedule.
Before you can say anything about the forum take in consideration the other factors on why we are the way we are. This forum has been a home of the internet for a lot of us, and when someone says anything bad about it, we make a big deal about it. I've only been here for about 4 1/2 years, and I love this place. As much as I don't get to be on here too much, I know I can come back here and find Archem up to his antics or a Warxe joke being tossed around. Charas is still a game-making forum. That will never change. We all have used RPG Maker to a point when that new poster comes here and asks a question, we usually can answer it. Hey, we might not get around to using our knowledge for ourselves, but we do spread it to others.
<3 Charas
/end long winded response
I agree with Archem 1000%. Just sayin'
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So let me get this right. You come on here saying you want to build an mmorpg using charas people in it, but you can't do it yourself or are asking for the entire community to help out with such a large scale project that would take years to make? Dude, I don't even know who you are let alone would I stop doing everything I am personally working on just to make something like that. To be a leader you have to first prove yourself and bring some inspiration to the community. Once you develop a name for yourself and get some respect than you might have a better chance at making something like that with the folks here on this forum.
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Drak for the win.
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The unfortunate thing with game-making, Brieg, is that people rarely want to contribute
if there's no motive. If there were screens and concepts, ideas, artwork, pseudocode, etc,
people might be more interested. Any average Joe can pitch an idea, but someone who really
wants it to go forward will map every little detail of it out before presenting it.
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An ideas guy is generally undesirable unless he has money to give all the useful people, basically.
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You can be a good idea guy, but you need SOLID planning and proof of your hard work and a genuinely
good idea. A game allowing you to do lots isn't a good idea - anyone could come up with it. Some
expertise in a certain area always helps, too!
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Well then i'll do all the mapping too.