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Off-Topic => All of all! => Topic started by: forgetaboutit on June 16, 2011, 12:14:00 AM

Title: Holy friggin' horsedump man
Post by: forgetaboutit on June 16, 2011, 12:14:00 AM
http://media.chick.com/digital-comics/0111/0111_5.html
Talk about sabotage.

Trying to convert people to your faith is one thing, completely mutilating history and backing up your nonsensical claims with "historical" facts that someone with less knowledge might believe is ****ing wrong, dude.

Read the whole thing if you have time. I thought I'd get some laughs from it at first, but now I'm just pissed. This just ain't right man. No matter what religion you follow (or don't follow), that thing should probably make you not very happy. Even [real] Christians will probably [and rightfully] think that guy is a moron.

The worst part? At a bunch of points he has footnotes where he tells people to look up books where they can find more info on the subject. Dear ****ing lord, I don't even want to think about what kind of insane **** they are making up in those books.

:/

EDIT: Oh, and a short story by the same guy (http://www.chick.com/reading/tracts/0046/0046_01.ASP) talks about how Dungeons and Dragons and Rock and Roll are a tool used by the devil to corrupt the youth. Dungeons and Dragons also gives you mind controlling powers, but you have to join a cult and sell your soul first.
Title: Re: Holy f*ucking horseshit man
Post by: Razor on June 16, 2011, 12:32:57 AM
Congratulations, you just discovered Chick tracts.
Title: Re: Holy f*ucking horseshit man
Post by: A Forgotten Legend on June 16, 2011, 12:50:55 AM
... I am laughing at how stupid the storyline is. Haha.  I mean, I really don't think that a lecture that short would cause someone to spiral out of control and start beating people and setting fire to buildings.

I don't get it.  I can't even get past page 28 when he starts talking about the Inquisition.  That's not anything new.  I mean, I learned about the Inquisition in high school.  Multiple times.  Oh my, some of the things people have time to do these days...
Title: Re: Holy f*ucking horseshit man
Post by: fruckert on June 16, 2011, 04:59:31 AM
Chick tracts are highly debated over whether or not they're serious.
I personally hope they're not.
Title: Re: Holy f*ucking horseshit man
Post by: WarxePB on June 16, 2011, 07:09:48 AM
Based on everything I know about Chick Tracts, they are in fact serious. And they do have their fans - most of them are fans in the "bile fascination" sense, but there are a few people out there that actually believe stuff like this. (See also: the Left Behind series of books.)

Of course, if they were a joke, that means Jack Chick is the greatest troll of all time.
Title: Re: Holy f*ucking horseshit man
Post by: Razor on June 16, 2011, 08:53:53 AM
Chick tracts are highly debated over whether or not they're serious.
I personally hope they're not.
“Without a winking smiley or other blatant display of humor, it is impossible to create a parody of fundamentalism that someone won't mistake for the real thing.” (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poe%27s_law)
Title: Re: Holy f*ucking horseshit man
Post by: zuhane on June 16, 2011, 09:42:37 AM
Don't get me started on religion.... don't....

(I'm a hardcore atheist)
Title: Re: Holy f*ucking horseshit man
Post by: SaiKar on June 16, 2011, 12:47:43 PM
And they do have their fans - most of them are fans in the "bile fascination" sense, but there are a few people out there that actually believe stuff like this. (See also: the Left Behind series of books.)

Most of the Left Behind series fans are "bile fascination" type people? That's odd. I found the series really enjoyable. Well-written religious apocalypse stories are exceedingly rare.
Title: Re: Holy f*ucking horseshit man
Post by: Dragonium on June 16, 2011, 01:01:16 PM
I don't think anyone here wants another fart tornado like all our other religion threads, so let's not even go there man.
Title: Re: Holy f*ucking horseshit man
Post by: Grandy on June 16, 2011, 01:07:29 PM
hey guyse is religion dumb or is religiong dumb lol am i rite or wat jesus was magic zombie never existed savior is lie priests rape kids logic is best etc etc etc
Title: Re: Holy f*ucking horseshit man
Post by: zuhane on June 16, 2011, 01:54:41 PM
hey guyse is religion dumb or is religiong dumb lol am i rite or wat jesus was magic zombie never existed savior is lie priests rape kids logic is best etc etc etc

Made me lol! I'm not one of THOSE atheists. I've decided you get less stick if you keep your views to yourself. No
matter how scientifically backed they are :P
Title: Re: Holy f*ucking horseshit man
Post by: HobomasterXXX on June 16, 2011, 03:36:19 PM
**** Atheism. I subscribe to the not-giving-a-****-ism school of thought.
Title: Re: Holy f*ucking horseshit man
Post by: MissingName on June 16, 2011, 03:42:08 PM
I subscribe to the not-giving-a-****-ism school of thought.

Me too.
Title: Re: Holy f*ucking horseshit man
Post by: Zerlina on June 16, 2011, 05:09:20 PM
I subscribe to the don't-rub-your-belief-or-non-belief-in-other-peoples-faces school of thought.
Title: Re: Holy f*ucking horseshit man
Post by: Archem on June 16, 2011, 05:55:01 PM
Yeah, those are both great schools. I treat religion the same way I treat sexual preference - Do what you want, believe what you want, but please don't make it apparent. Don't you have anything better to do than flaunt what you do in your free time?

By the way, I'm going to actively stop before I turn this into a gay thread.
Title: Re: Holy f*ucking horseshit man
Post by: SaiKar on June 16, 2011, 09:02:07 PM
I ascribe to the "I'm a Christan but also a scientist, a if I can make that work than you can at least make an effort not to be a douche when we talk" school. Mostly, I just like discussing things with people, even if they have different beliefs, but too often it generates into lol@u nonsense.
Title: Re: Holy f*ucking horseshit man
Post by: fruckert on June 16, 2011, 10:36:00 PM
I hate zealots.
Of any kind.
If all you really feel like doing all day is trashing what other people hold dear, then **** you. If you seem to think that if you screech loud enough about just how wrong another person is, the world will listen, then sorry to say, but you're wrong.
Good for you, for believing in something, but **** you for saying I'm a heathen/idiot for not thinking the same way.

Other than that, religion is pretty cool if you step away from the crazies. People getting together and hanging out, based around a single belief? I can get behind that.
Title: Re: Holy f*ucking horseshit man
Post by: Phayre on June 16, 2011, 11:10:10 PM
I wish I could think Chick was a gigantic troll. But even if he is, I met people in my foster parents' church who bought all this and then some.
Barred me from playing FF when they found out there were black mages. Actually set fire to one of my writing notebooks because I wrote fantasy.
(And yet! They also bought me Fire Emblem. XFD.)
Title: Re: Holy f*ucking horseshit man
Post by: lilsniffs3 on June 17, 2011, 01:43:00 AM
I'm Catholic and I firmly believe this is bs. People like these are like people who believe Landover Baptist is not a parody and support the mindset of the fake members of that site (Landover.)

Anyway, the only people who would believe this is some uneducated people who have been completely restricted to anything not "phallic shaped" or "devil-worshipping."

Just my angry two cents.
Title: Re: Holy f*ucking horseshit man
Post by: zuhane on June 17, 2011, 08:58:14 AM
I think there's this misconception that all Catholics act like Arthur Mitchell out of Dexter, and that all atheists
go round rubbing their noses in people's faces because they think they're wrong, and that all Muslims are
extremist terrorists. People need to remember that everything works on a spectrum, and some people take things more
seriously than others. I choose not to base my life on any kind of religion, but I don't think people are stupid for doing so. My best
friend's a Muslim, and that's completely his choice. I'm fine with it. He's fine with me being an atheist. We don't ridicule each other,
let alone even mention it at any point. Everybody has their vices. Some believe in the great afterlife, others believe in helping
others, and some believe in living in the present. All a matter of personal preference.

Having raw hate towards atheists is just as bad as dissing a religion. I'm not lawless, and I don't go round bashing religions.
I'm just me. I also believe in evolution purely because my course delves into that area and discusses it an awful lot, so I can't
just blindly ignore it. Doesn't mean I then preach about velociraptors to my Jewish friends!!
Title: Re: Holy f*ucking horseshit man
Post by: Razor on June 17, 2011, 10:44:16 AM
What was the point in the apostrophe in f*ucking
Title: Re: Holy f*ucking horseshit man
Post by: SaiKar on June 17, 2011, 12:46:10 PM
Also, you know what really pisses me off? When I hear a creationist saying something along the lines of "Oh, so you really believe that man "evolved" from a monkey?". I mean, DUDE. Not a ****ing monkey. We and monkeys had a common ancestor. We're not evolved monkey. Well, not literally, anyway.

It’s a gross simplification of evolution. It seems like you understand enough to know it’s not exactly true but sort of is. But the point isn’t that we’re from monkeys – it’s that even people that have scientific backgrounds believe things based on faith.

"How do you know God exists?"
"Because the Bible tells me He does."
"That's stupid."
"Yeah? How do you know the Big Bang happened?"
"Because some eggheads tell me it did. But I don't understand any of the science involved at all."
"Who's stupid now, eh?"

As someone working with science, I can tell you that I understand worrying little about the chemistry and physics I use everyday. I mean, REALLY understand. Most scientific beliefs are theories built on theories built on theories and many of them cannot be explained to people that don’t have a strong background in science. And if you get deep enough down into many of them, you find “well we don’t know why this is, but all our observations say it is, so I guess it is!” type situations. How does gravity work? Cuz it does.
 
Now, granted, we are taught that if a theory is acting up and not giving the proper results than it is analyzed and perhaps altered or discarded. But most people don’t ever do that in their day-to-day life and have no way of verifying if science is really true.

All of this is without touching on concepts that, thusfar, science has totally failed to even come up with the slimmest possibility to explain. Things like why we have a sentient consciousness that allows us to sit around on forums and write posts like this. Where this thing that I call myself that inhabits my body came from and where it goes if my body takes critical damage that prevents it from continuing to function. Why life – a massive collection of controlled chemistry and electrical impulses, even exists in the first place and why it exists in crazy places, even under the ocean, in total isolation. The world is weird, man. We’re so smug with our particle colliders and hubble telescopes, thinking ourselves the master of the universe, and we don’t even understand why single-celled beings exist in the first place.
Title: Re: Holy f*ucking horseshit man
Post by: zuhane on June 17, 2011, 01:30:32 PM
SaiKar + lucas, you ought to give 'The Selfish Gene' a good read. It's absolutely fascinating. It's the theory that molecules accidentally competed
for resources on an atomic level, as some free-floating elements became more scarce or had already bonded to other elements in a stable form.
Then some stencil-shaped molecule gave rise to the first form a DNA - an RNA strand capable of self-replication without the need for enzyme
helicase. Works on a similar principle to natural selection, but with no conscious decisions and pure kinetic energy accidentally causing these
molecules to collide.

It then expands on this principle by saying that all life is purely accidental and is a result of things being able to compete with each other better
without reasoning or knowing. Things such as emotions, conscious thought, working together, etc, have all arose from this in the first place as
some means to pass our DNA on and act as "Outer shells" which coat the DNA and keep it safe from harm. Dawkins even explains why certain
genders prefer certain colours, how humor arose and why most species never kill their own species, but simply battle them. You have to remember,
there's no reason to evolve if you're adapting just fine to your environment in the first place. That's why it's so interesting to look at the variation
of organisms all over the world. Some of them just seem pointless, but they're doing just fine where they are. It's a pretty nihilistic outlook on life
for some people, but I find it a pretty beautiful concept.
Title: Re: Holy f*ucking horseshit man
Post by: SaiKar on June 17, 2011, 01:59:46 PM
I blame my existence on sheer luck.
It's the theory that molecules accidentally competed for resources on an atomic level, as some free-floating elements became more scarce or had already bonded to other elements in a stable form. [...]Works on a similar principle to natural selection, but with no conscious decisions and pure kinetic energy accidentally causing these molecules to collide.
[...] all life is purely accidental and is a result of things being able to compete with each other better without reasoning or knowing.

There is no luck in science. There aren’t even probabilities. Everything is certain and deterministic. What we call probabilities and accidents are us not understanding the full situation. When you flip a coin, you don’t have a 50% chance of heads and a 50% chance of tails. You have 100% chance of one and a 0% of the other, since everything that influences the coin flip is finite and, theoretically, measurable. You simply do not understand the situation well enough to know ahead of time what the outcome will be.

(this doesn’t discount the existence of God – He could be the one that decided and controls the deterministic possibilities by having direct control of all variables of the situation. You do the same exact thing when you mix two chemicals together)

Now, it could be that life just happened because the conditions were right and it kept evolving because the conditions were right, succeeding until some creature like me was able to sit here and write forum posts. But we don’t know what those conditions were or how to replicate them. Have there ever been any successful experiments of scientists creating life out of material components that were never, at any point, ever alive? We have technology that can replicate heat a fraction of a degree warmer than absolute zero or hotter than the surface of the sun, and pressure lower than the deepest spaces between the stars or as strong as a stellar mass. We have access to every chemical and material on the planet, including some that have crashed from the moon or comets. We should be able to make this happen again.
Title: Re: Holy f*ucking horseshit man
Post by: drenrin2120 on June 17, 2011, 04:20:09 PM
I <3 sai.
Title: Re: Holy f*ucking horseshit man
Post by: Archem on June 17, 2011, 05:16:31 PM
I blame my existence on sheer luck. Everything necessary for me to exist, from the first molecules of nonlife that decided to get together and form living organisms, to the fish that started becoming an amphibian, to the early mammal who didn't get nuked when the meteor come, to the right sperm that came out of my dad's ball and landed on my mother's uterus - It all took some very, very large amounts of luck. I believe that what made the universe and earth what they are now is just a combination of random events that ended up working quite well for us (could be better, but hey, could be much worse). So in the end, I'm one lucky bastard. And that's why I enjoy life so much. Can't go and waste all that luck, now can I?

(http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g32/Archem2/03819.gif)
Title: Re: Holy f*ucking horseshit man
Post by: zuhane on June 17, 2011, 05:21:20 PM
There is no luck in science. There aren’t even probabilities. Everything is certain and deterministic. What we call probabilities and accidents are us not understanding the full situation. When you flip a coin, you don’t have a 50% chance of heads and a 50% chance of tails. You have 100% chance of one and a 0% of the other, since everything that influences the coin flip is finite and, theoretically, measurable. You simply do not understand the situation well enough to know ahead of time what the outcome will be.

(this doesn’t discount the existence of God – He could be the one that decided and controls the deterministic possibilities by having direct control of all variables of the situation. You do the same exact thing when you mix two chemicals together)

Now, it could be that life just happened because the conditions were right and it kept evolving because the conditions were right, succeeding until some creature like me was able to sit here and write forum posts. But we don’t know what those conditions were or how to replicate them. Have there ever been any successful experiments of scientists creating life out of material components that were never, at any point, ever alive? We have technology that can replicate heat a fraction of a degree warmer than absolute zero or hotter than the surface of the sun, and pressure lower than the deepest spaces between the stars or as strong as a stellar mass. We have access to every chemical and material on the planet, including some that have crashed from the moon or comets. We should be able to make this happen again.

I was speaking in generalities to save time and explanation, but thanks for clearing it up anyway :P
Title: Re: Holy f*ucking horseshit man
Post by: Drakiyth on June 17, 2011, 07:32:58 PM
http://media.chick.com/digital-comics/0111/0111_5.html
Talk about sabotage.

Trying to convert people to your faith is one thing, completely mutilating history and backing up your nonsensical claims with "historical" facts that someone with less knowledge might believe is ****ing wrong, dude.

Read the whole thing if you have time. I thought I'd get some laughs from it at first, but now I'm just pissed. This just ain't right man. No matter what religion you follow (or don't follow), that thing should probably make you not very happy. Even [real] Christians will probably [and rightfully] think that guy is a moron.

The worst part? At a bunch of points he has footnotes where he tells people to look up books where they can find more info on the subject. Dear ****ing lord, I don't even want to think about what kind of insane **** they are making up in those books.

:/

EDIT: Oh, and a short story by the same guy (http://www.chick.com/reading/tracts/0046/0046_01.ASP) talks about how Dungeons and Dragons and Rock and Roll are a tool used by the devil to corrupt the youth. Dungeons and Dragons also gives you mind controlling powers, but you have to join a cult and sell your soul first.



Actually, the history you read is false. Schools teach you jack and **** and are ran by the government who do nothing but lie to you. This comic was actually a very interesting read. You should do research on the Illuminati. A lot of things said in this have ties to it.  This seems to be a comic of somebody trying to warn of the NWO. Big time.

Did you know the first president of the united states was actually a black man?  They don't teach that **** in school, kid.
Title: Re: Holy f*ucking horseshit man
Post by: fruckert on June 17, 2011, 08:20:44 PM
That was one of the most mind-boggling displays of stupidity I've ever seen,
Good job, Drak.
Title: Re: Holy f*ucking horseshit man
Post by: drenrin2120 on June 17, 2011, 11:01:24 PM
I'd love to see where you read that from, Drak.
Title: Re: Holy f*ucking horseshit man
Post by: Razor on June 18, 2011, 12:07:33 AM
I thought he was joking, but then
>Drakiyth
so now I don't know what to believe.

also
(http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g32/Archem2/03819.gif)
Best poster in the world award goes to this guy.
Title: Re: Holy f*ucking horseshit man
Post by: Archem on June 18, 2011, 12:32:48 AM
On the subject of awards...

*motions towards avatar*
Title: Re: Holy f*ucking horseshit man
Post by: Dragonium on June 18, 2011, 02:59:50 AM
(http://chan.catiewayne.com/m/src/130636786297.jpg)
Title: Re: Holy f*ucking horseshit man
Post by: MissingName on June 18, 2011, 04:11:53 AM
(http://chan.catiewayne.com/m/src/130636786297.jpg)

I think I agree with you now.  Didn't take long, did it...
Title: Re: Holy f*ucking horseshit man
Post by: A Forgotten Legend on June 18, 2011, 06:40:12 AM
Everytime I see this topic on the front page I think that Lucas got into the alcohol again.
Title: Re: Holy f*ucking horseshit man
Post by: zuhane on June 18, 2011, 10:30:42 AM
Charas: The only forum on earth that allows you to tangent so much that you can't even tell what
the topic is any more! :D
Title: Re: Holy f*ucking horseshit man
Post by: Archem on June 18, 2011, 04:05:23 PM
And that's why we love it.
Title: Re: Holy f*ucking horseshit man
Post by: Drakiyth on June 18, 2011, 04:57:02 PM
That was one of the most mind-boggling displays of stupidity I've ever seen,
Good job, Drak.

Stupidity? You have no idea of the shadows that lurk in this world do you?

JOHN HANSEN - FIRST PRESIDENT OF THE U.S.A.   Many videos get taken down daily about this.  Watch if you want to know what the government doesn't want you to know.
Hey, Fruckert. See that SSN in your wallet or in that hidden place you put it?  That's your slave tag.  We may have more freedom than the slaves but we are still property.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TpHP8J4hSYE


Famous musician: Prince.  Talking about the black history video he saw and chemtrails.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YOGUqXRXPts



Before you call somebody stupid ask yourself if you're really safe in this world. If your government actually gives a flying piss about you.




Title: Re: Holy f*ucking horseshit man
Post by: Archem on June 18, 2011, 05:25:40 PM
Best be trollin'. Also, cut that out.
Title: Re: Holy f*ucking horseshit man
Post by: fruckert on June 18, 2011, 05:27:42 PM
And in that I've lost any shred of respect I may have had for you.
I don't think it is at all possible for me to care even the slightest about you or your stupid projects.
Good day sir, I hope you -CENSORED FOR TASTELESS FLAME-

P.S.
John Hanson, the guy you're likely talking about, was an Englishman.

By Archem: Let's keep it classy.
Title: Re: Holy f*ucking horseshit man
Post by: Dragonium on June 18, 2011, 05:35:58 PM
Not only was John Hanson not the first President of Continental Congress (Peyton Randolph was (http://www.history.org/almanack/people/bios/biorapey.cfm)), he also wasn't black. The black man photographed in that first video was a different John Hanson, a Liberian senator (http://www.loc.gov/exhibits/treasures/trr033.html). It's unlikely that that photo was taken of him as President in 1781, given that President John Hanson died in 1783, the method of photography used, daguerrotyping, wasn't invented until 1839 (http://memory.loc.gov/ammem/daghtml/dagdag.html), and the black John Hanson only became a senator in 1856.

Misinformation spreads through poor research.
Title: Re: Holy f*ucking horseshit man
Post by: fruckert on June 18, 2011, 05:48:11 PM
That's just what they want you to think.

BY FRUCKERT:
I'd like to apologize for the tasteless flame.
Not the intent, I quite honestly don't like Drak, but guess I went kind of overboard with the insult.
(it involved most conspiracy theorist stereotypes and rape...yeah)
Title: Re: Holy f*ucking horseshit man
Post by: Drakiyth on June 18, 2011, 09:05:17 PM
That's just what they want you to think.

BY FRUCKERT:
I'd like to apologize for the tasteless flame.
Not the intent, I quite honestly don't like Drak, but guess I went kind of overboard with the insult.
(it involved most conspiracy theorist stereotypes and rape...yeah)

Why the hate? Why the doubts? What did I ever do to you to not like me?  I don't think I've even had a conversation with you. We all have opinions and I can also say that the government and everything you know is what they want you to hear too?

My comment I made was don't believe everything your public schools teach you. Yeah, most of the **** online is more than likely fake, but there is a story that truly holds weight. Tupac, who died after exposing the elite. He has made me believe in some the twisted things that might be in this world.  If you believe everything you hear in school why have doubts about things you hear from other places?  I'm not trying to troll you dude, I'm asking you an honest question.


Also, shed of respect?  Seriously? Would love to know what I did to piss you off so much.  I'll tell you what. I'll be respectful to this community and your personal feelings with not talking about dark **** like this. You have my apologies, Fruckert.  I never meant to discomfort anybody with my opinions.




Also, lucas. I don't like people slamming religion down other's throats. I can understand your point and your flame to the comic. It's really hard to believe many things in this world that cause discomfort or gloom. It's easy to write off **** because it's just too much.
Title: Re: Holy f*ucking horseshit man
Post by: SaiKar on June 18, 2011, 09:44:09 PM
Archem, that's one heck of an award you have there.
Title: Re: Holy f*ucking horseshit man
Post by: Zerlina on June 18, 2011, 10:49:15 PM
If you guys ever get a chance, this is a fascinating and intelligent book about the history of secularism and the place of religion and secularism in our modern ideology.

http://www.amazon.ca/Secular-Age-Charles-Taylor/dp/0674026764
Title: Re: Holy f*ucking horseshit man
Post by: fruckert on June 18, 2011, 10:55:00 PM
Drak, you don't need to apologize for anything, or insinuate that we're not mature enough for such a dark topic or nonsense like that.

My problem with you stems from the fact that I believe you're an egotistical jackass who massively overestimates the quality of his own work, to the point that you stated that Charas would be lost/dead without the CGR thread to bring in one-post-wonders (with the exception of Missing, that is).
There's also the little bit of how bloody insane your none-work posts can be, especially the shining examples in this topic. Yes, schools are fairly stupid at time. However, the claims that you make (I honestly still can't believe that you seriously mentioned chemtrails of all things) aren't much better. They're poorly researched conspiracy theories that are easily refuted when you actually look at the underlying facts instead of seeing what you want to.

I do apologize for the needless flaming, that was extremely immature of me, but until you prove me wrong, my opinion of you probably won't change for the better.

ed:
I'm going to honestly leave the topic now, before I fully ruin what little reputation I have.
Title: Re: Holy f*ucking horseshit man
Post by: Archem on June 18, 2011, 11:47:40 PM
Archem, that's one heck of an award you have there.
I'd say I've earned it.

Now then, I'd like to see a return to civil posting. Fruck, I commend you for trying to apologize, but it totally wasn't cool to snap like that in the first place. Drak, say what you mean a bit more plainly, so as to avoid any misunderstandings. If you earnestly believe that the world is made of conspiracies and the government is only out to turn people into gold (or something), that's fine, but it falls into the same group of extreme ideologies that we've unanimously agreed are a problem. Voicing an opinion and preaching are two different things, and we don't need evangelists of any kind, religious or otherwise.

Now then, Chick tracts. Resumé.
Title: Re: Holy f*ucking horseshit man
Post by: fruckert on June 19, 2011, 12:33:12 AM
Yeah, I admit that I really went off the deep end.
However, that won't fix things, because it still happened, and the point is it shouldn't've.

I'll be more sparse now.
Title: Re: Holy f*ucking horseshit man
Post by: Drakiyth on June 19, 2011, 12:44:04 AM
 
I'd say I've earned it.

Now then, I'd like to see a return to civil posting. Fruck, I commend you for trying to apologize, but it totally wasn't cool to snap like that in the first place. Drak, say what you mean a bit more plainly, so as to avoid any misunderstandings. If you earnestly believe that the world is made of conspiracies and the government is only out to turn people into gold (or something), that's fine, but it falls into the same group of extreme ideologies that we've unanimously agreed are a problem. Voicing an opinion and preaching are two different things, and we don't need evangelists of any kind, religious or otherwise.

Now then, Chick tracts. Resumé.


It's extremely difficult to talk about this subject openly without arguments. Like you said, it's a best to not even get into it.  As far as being egotistical, that's a different view point.  Some might see an ambitious game designer who is spending his free time to give the public some entertainment and some might see me as the devil or an ***hole who gets off on being praised for my work. As far as saying charas will fall without the CGR's.  Nah, I didn't mean it that way. I meant to say that the CGR's have brought a good deal of new blood to the charas forums and it wasn't just me who said this. It was originally started by a couple of the originals.

I know if I took the CGR's away from Charas the sight would be fine with it's awesome people and database of resources.
Title: Re: Holy f*ucking horseshit man
Post by: Zerlina on June 19, 2011, 02:18:05 AM
Let's talk about something that won't start mad rage.

How bout that Stanley Cup?
Title: Re: Holy f*ucking horseshit man
Post by: fruckert on June 19, 2011, 02:49:54 AM
I'm shocked that Vancouver acted so...stereotypical about a lost hockey game.
Seriously, for shame.

ed:
I'm awful at saying goodbye.
Title: Re: Holy f*ucking horseshit man
Post by: Archem on June 19, 2011, 04:31:36 AM
Archem. That award. You deserved it. Keep being awesome.
Compliments left and right. Razor did a bang-up job, and I wear it with pride, knowing that it's 1000% true (the only percent worth being).

Charas should have a gift shop, and they should make an Archem poster to hang on your wall. Best poster, twice.
Title: Re: Holy f*ucking horseshit man
Post by: drenrin2120 on June 19, 2011, 05:18:41 AM
Yeah, how about that stanley cup, zerl? Oh wait.
Title: Re: Holy f*ucking horseshit man
Post by: A Forgotten Legend on June 19, 2011, 05:29:23 AM
Alright, here goes.  I feel like Charas has started to get a little too filled with easily arguable topics and posts.  I mean, we're a tight knit group.  We don't need anything to cause any more issues than we can handle.  Unfortunately, the Charas we know and love now, with all its off-topic-ness, is becoming what we tried to avoid when we closed the Off-Topic forum.  I remember the huge deal when that board was opened.  It was pretty great, but eventually it started filtering into the rest of the forum.  Once it was closed things went back to normal for a while, however, now it is getting there again.

I'm not saying that topics like this should be against the rules, but I do believe that they should be discouraged.  Also, we sometimes forget the basic rules of the forum.  I mean, I know I certainly did in that topic Brieg posted when I roasted him about that game he posted, and I regret it.  However, the moderators should point out when things are getting a little too overheated.  I'm not suggesting stricter rule enforcement, but rather a simple reminder every once in a while.  Archem was a good example of this when he edited Fruck's post and reminded him about Flaming.

All in all, we do have a great, small, passionate community.  I'm glad I am apart of it, but it brings a sort of sadness when I see it go like this.


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But yes, it is indeed worthy of Archem status.  Oh, and Lucas, Canada and Hockey are like Pedobear and Children.  They just can't get enough, and when they don't win, you might as well have walked right into a room full of very hungryhorny bears.
Title: Re: Holy f*ucking horseshit man
Post by: Razor on June 19, 2011, 06:54:38 AM
Unfortunately, the Charas we know and love now, with all its off-topic-ness, is becoming what we tried to avoid when we closed the Off-Topic forum.
Uh
gonna assume you mean the Unmod forum
that **** was pre. cool we should bring it back
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And this thread like what I presume happens to all of the threads Lucas starts, has veered off topic to a level of permanency, I'd wager.
Title: Re: Holy f*ucking horseshit man
Post by: A Forgotten Legend on June 19, 2011, 06:58:24 AM
That was the name, wasn't it?  I guess I coulda went and looked.
Title: Re: Holy f*ucking horseshit man
Post by: Razor on June 19, 2011, 07:53:52 AM
Yeah
Offtopic is where Unmod was held and well, it's right there. We're in it now.


Also: I don't know to feel regarding the thread title reading "Re: Holy f*ucking horses..." in the main forum
Title: Re: Holy friggin' horsedump man
Post by: Prpl_Mage on June 19, 2011, 08:29:10 AM
So yeah, fanatics are great. They are so convinced that they know the truth that the only right thing to do would be to make everyone else believe the same. They are doing everyone a favour. Or so they think.

And AFL, I'll gladly go policeofficer on the whole bunch of ya: if that's what you guys want. I can discourage you from making things go off topic and I'll bring the water hose to drench the overheat; 'cuz that's what a Mayor should do.
Title: Re: Holy friggin' horsedump man
Post by: Archem on June 19, 2011, 08:42:26 AM
Also: I don't know to feel regarding the thread title reading "Re: Holy f*ucking horses..." in the main forum
I'm a fan, in case it's not apparent.

I'm really not big on killing what I prefer to see as an evolution of the thread (pun totally relevant), so when the subject shifts, I feel happy. I mean, I tend to be the root of the derailment most of the time, and it feels like a personal accomplishment, but still. Typically, a lot of the fun that keeps us around stems from the  off-topic posting. Having said that, I don't have an issue with keeping things from melting down into controversy and petty bitching. So if things are going South really fast, I'm going to do my part to get back on subject and avoid any unnecessary unpleasantness. I don't see this as a black-and-white issue, so don't expect me to follow some sort of guidelines about this, just as I don't expect you all to live by a code of conduct. Just be yourselves (unless you're dicks at heart), use your best judgement about approaching a situation, and don't be a douche lord.

Man, would I be an awesome motivational speaker or what?
Title: Re: Holy friggin' horsedump man
Post by: MissingName on June 19, 2011, 02:05:15 PM
Reading through the last few pages, I'm not surprised at the way the conversation went.
Title: Re: Holy friggin' horsedump man
Post by: Dragonium on June 19, 2011, 02:42:51 PM
I'm with Archem; I don't mind the off-topic threads - I come here now because I love you guys (no homo), not because I want to talk about RPG Maker - but I'll always drop a hell naw we ain't doin' this if I see a great big fight about to kick off.

I'd also like to say that last night I had a dream that Zerlina and I were pirates. It was... beautiful.
Title: Re: Holy friggin' horsedump man
Post by: Zerlina on June 19, 2011, 03:00:22 PM
Yarrr! To the siggy with ye!
Title: Re: Holy friggin' horsedump man
Post by: drenrin2120 on June 19, 2011, 04:09:23 PM
Agree'd. This is how people talk. It happens. Topics change, and thank god for that.
Title: Re: Holy friggin' horsedump man
Post by: Archem on June 19, 2011, 04:49:11 PM
(no homo)
:/

I'm going to start saying things that are incredibly homoerotic, and just leaving it without this little tag.

Look! I think the topic is changing again!
Title: Re: Holy friggin' horsedump man
Post by: Zerlina on June 19, 2011, 05:46:55 PM
I like girls.
Title: Re: Holy friggin' horsedump man
Post by: Archem on June 19, 2011, 05:50:35 PM
****ing yes.
Title: Re: Holy friggin' horsedump man
Post by: drenrin2120 on June 19, 2011, 06:46:26 PM
Guys, I have a secret...... I like girls too. And that's pretty homo.
Title: Re: Holy friggin' horsedump man
Post by: Razor on June 20, 2011, 02:17:49 AM
This topic evolution just feels forced. Like the big fat elephant in the room making us go all "uH, sO, hOW ABOUT THAT LOCAL SPORTS TEAM?"

And as we all know I was a huge advocate for topic evolution back in the day when we had topic creationists like Carmen and Ghostclown locking everything.
Title: Re: Holy friggin' horsedump man
Post by: Archem on June 20, 2011, 04:10:28 AM
So you're saying "I was into this before it was cool, now it's full of mainstream garbage".

Razor's a hipster.
Title: Re: Holy friggin' horsedump man
Post by: ZeroKirbyX on June 20, 2011, 04:14:09 AM
This ****ing forum ruined me for others. I've been banned from so many for not always staying straight on topic. Balls guys.

Also, Mets won the SuperBowl
Title: Re: Holy friggin' horsedump man
Post by: Archem on June 20, 2011, 04:33:59 AM
Talk about a hole in one!
Title: Re: Holy friggin' horsedump man
Post by: Dragonium on June 21, 2011, 02:50:25 AM
"Hey this thread is getting enjoying, cut it down or I will have to lock it and bun you for having fun".

What, we're being moderated by Zlad now?
Title: Re: Holy friggin' horsedump man
Post by: Archem on June 21, 2011, 04:24:24 AM
That was the most poorly-constructed sentence I've ever seen Lucas and his foreign-language self ever post.

It's also awesome that we all know each other, more-or-less.
Title: Re: Holy friggin' horsedump man
Post by: ZeroKirbyX on June 22, 2011, 06:52:08 AM
Hah, Portuguese is just poor Spanish.
Title: Re: Holy friggin' horsedump man
Post by: Archem on June 22, 2011, 06:43:11 PM
Poortuguese.
Title: Re: Holy friggin' horsedump man
Post by: Cerebus on June 22, 2011, 09:43:11 PM
And in French, it's "Portugais" which kinda sounds like "Portu-Gay" you know. It's like, Poor-tu-Gay. You know.
Yeah...
Title: Re: Holy friggin' horsedump man
Post by: Natako on June 22, 2011, 09:54:37 PM
And in French, it's "Portugais" which kinda sounds like "Portu-Gay" you know. It's like, Poor-tu-Gay. You know.
Yeah...

Or "Pour-tu-gay", which kind of sounds like someone who's not fluent in the language trying to say "gay for you".
Title: Re: Holy friggin' horsedump man
Post by: Dragonium on June 23, 2011, 12:44:01 AM
Homosexuals in the UK are about 7% of the population, the same as in Brazil.

But I'd expect no other sentiment from someone coming from the country with the highest rate of homophobic murders in the world.
Title: Re: Holy friggin' horsedump man
Post by: A Forgotten Legend on June 23, 2011, 01:07:15 AM
...
...
Well this thread got awkward real fast.  Anyway, I think that some of the stereotypes for other countries can be funny, but outside of comics and videos, it just looks rude.
Title: Re: Holy friggin' horsedump man
Post by: fruckert on June 23, 2011, 01:16:16 AM
This topic is basically Charas's tampon by now.

No offense meant to the Charrettes, of course.
Title: Re: Holy friggin' horsedump man
Post by: Dragonium on June 23, 2011, 02:30:28 PM
Alright, fine. I retract my statement, and instead assert that Lucas wears a sombrero and sleeps most of the day.

Now if you'll excuse me I have to go and have tea with the men at the croquet club.
Title: Re: Holy friggin' horsedump man
Post by: SaiKar on June 23, 2011, 03:31:01 PM
Cheers
Title: Re: Holy friggin' horsedump man
Post by: Archem on June 23, 2011, 04:38:17 PM
Alright, fine. I retract my statement, and instead assert that Lucas wears a sombrero and sleeps most of the day.

Now if you'll excuse me I have to go and have tea with the men at the croquet club.
I wear a hat and sleep most of the day. However, my mixed heritage states that the hat must be of a Caucasian styling, and the sleeping must be followed by consumption of a Hot Pocket.
Title: Re: Holy friggin' horsedump man
Post by: Dragonium on June 23, 2011, 07:07:45 PM
>accidentally confuse Brazilians and Mexicans
>nobody notices

Dodged a bullet there.
Title: Re: Holy friggin' horsedump man
Post by: ZeroKirbyX on June 23, 2011, 11:02:46 PM
No one minds Drag. It's the same concept how all Europeans believe that America is actually just an extension of Texas. Just because I'm from Texas means nothing, yee-haw.

Mexico is Central America. Brazil is Lil' Germany.
Title: Re: Holy friggin' horsedump man
Post by: Archem on June 24, 2011, 01:48:23 AM
Europe is basically the same throughout.
Title: Re: Holy friggin' horsedump man
Post by: Prpl_Mage on June 24, 2011, 07:40:04 AM
Yeah, from Sweden to Greece, same damn thing. Everyone looks and acts the same, the same money, the same food, same sheep and same religions. It's hard to tell us apart.
Title: Re: Holy friggin' horsedump man
Post by: WarxePB on June 24, 2011, 05:05:36 PM
Yeah, from Sweden to Greece, same damn thing. Everyone looks and acts the same, the same money, the same food, same sheep and same religions. It's hard to tell us apart.

I knew it!

Well, to be fair, isn't that part of the point of the Euro?