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Title: Megaman Legends 3 cancelled
Post by: Grandy on July 19, 2011, 01:58:43 AM
 CAPCOOOOOOOOOM!!! *shakes fist at the sky*
Title: Re: Megaman Legends 3 cancelled
Post by: EliroX904 on July 19, 2011, 02:17:18 AM
As much as I LOVE Megaman, I never cared about MML, nor do I have a 3DS so this doesn't affect me.

Now if it were Megaman 11 or Megaman X9, I'd probably set fire to my whole neighborhood in a fit of rage.
Title: Re: Megaman Legends 3 cancelled
Post by: Grandy on July 19, 2011, 02:27:43 AM
Oh, you poor, pathetic souls...

Just...

Deal with it.

**** you.
Title: Re: Megaman Legends 3 cancelled
Post by: oooog on July 19, 2011, 02:52:56 AM
I decide to lurk for old times sake, and what do I see but the piece of news that has sent me in to a spiral of rage and depression that I just got over by downing a glass of rum and V8.
Title: Re: Megaman Legends 3 cancelled
Post by: Grandy on July 19, 2011, 02:58:47 AM
I decide to lurk for old times sake, and what do I see but the piece of news that has sent me in to a spiral of rage and depression that I just got over by downing a glass of rum and V8.

Whenever you need rage and depression in your life you may count on me.

Also, Megaman Universe was cancelled as well. As was Assassin's Creed.
Title: Re: Megaman Legends 3 cancelled
Post by: oooog on July 19, 2011, 03:05:23 AM
I was expected Universe to get cancelled, and I don't care for Assassin's Creed.  But Megaman Legends 3 was among the top 5 reasons I purchase a 3DS in the first place.  Honestly, if not for the fact that they implied that we would have all those great games at launch when I reserved it (only the to discover they decided to push them back, some to even 2012), I would never have gotten this very expensive paper weight.  Zelda lasted me 4 days.  Next up, Cave Story.  OH WAIT!  That was pushed back to September IIRC.  I was also promised the Megaman Legends 3 Prototype Beta within a week of it's launch.  So they've taken Xenoblade and The Last Story from me, and now Capcom has taken Megaman.

If not for The Witcher, I would despise the gaming world.
Title: Re: Megaman Legends 3 cancelled
Post by: HobomasterXXX on July 19, 2011, 06:20:50 AM
Cross off reason one for buying a 3DS. That leaves uh... Oh yeah, none. Welp.
Title: Re: Megaman Legends 3 cancelled
Post by: zuhane on July 19, 2011, 10:28:46 AM
What's the huge appeal with Megaman? I think it's rubbish.
Title: Re: Megaman Legends 3 cancelled
Post by: HobomasterXXX on July 19, 2011, 12:23:42 PM
Firstly Megaman Legends is completely different to the mainline Megaman games, secondly you clearly have no soul.
Title: Re: Megaman Legends 3 cancelled
Post by: zuhane on July 19, 2011, 03:24:47 PM
It's just so linear and basic. Don't feel like it's aged well. However, games like Super Mario 3 and LoZ:LTTP have aged
fine and are still great to play today. Just my opinion, brah!
Title: Re: Megaman Legends 3 cancelled
Post by: Archem on July 19, 2011, 04:12:25 PM
Megaman was always the kind of game that seemed like a perfect match for me, yet, I couldn't ever really enjoy. No idea why.
Title: Re: Megaman Legends 3 cancelled
Post by: EliroX904 on July 19, 2011, 05:14:51 PM
It's just so linear and basic. Don't feel like it's aged well. However, games like Super Mario 3 and LoZ:LTTP have aged
fine and are still great to play today. Just my opinion, brah!

I think I just lost an entire inch of respect for you. SM3 is mediocre at best, and it has aged HORRIBLY. Megaman is still EXTREMELY fun to play.
Megaman has had better graphics than SM3 since the first MM games. I don't care about graphics too much, but damn are SM3's graphics just... boring.
SM3's music is blander than vanilla ice cream, even the worst of MM's music is better than 90% of "real songs".
All Mario can do is jump and has no health bar. Megaman has a bunch of not only weapons, but tools as well, and he gets new ones every game unlike stuper Mario (see what I did there?) not to mention a health bar and E-tanks, W-tanks and M-tanks to refill his health bar AND all his weapon energy bars.
And don't even bring up popularity, SM3 may be at the top of the sales charts but so is Call of Doody.

Also it's not fair to compare the NES MM games to LoZ:LTTP because LoZ:LTTP is a SNES game. I haven't played LTTP so I can't compare it to MM, though. However, while it's DEFINITELY better than the SNES MM games in the main series, the SNES MMX series probably beats it.
Title: Re: Megaman Legends 3 cancelled
Post by: Cerebus on July 19, 2011, 06:03:06 PM
You forgot one important thing: Opinion!

For some, Super Mario 3 is better while for others, it's Mega Man.

Personally, I loved Mega Man X, but was slightly disappointed by the upgrades of X2, X3 etc. Haven't played that much Mega Man games, though.
However, they're still pretty fun games. I'm not a huge fan of the series, where I'd go sad by one not coming out, though.
Title: Re: Megaman Legends 3 cancelled
Post by: SaiKar on July 19, 2011, 06:05:15 PM
SM3 is mediocre at best, and it has aged HORRIBLY.
No way, man. It was the best platformer in the world when it came out, and with the addition of a save system like in All Stars, still very playable to this date. Very tight platforming, huge number of different levels, power ups you could save and use when you were in trouble. It's a fun game today.

You're allowed to not like it and like Megaman better, but I think you're going overboard here and not giving due credit. And MM's music can be pretty awful >_>
Title: Re: Megaman Legends 3 cancelled
Post by: Archem on July 19, 2011, 07:49:36 PM
Dude, SMB3 is the pinnacle of NES platforming. I don't even care who disagrees, because they're wrong.
Title: Re: Megaman Legends 3 cancelled
Post by: Cerebus on July 19, 2011, 07:51:11 PM
I agree with Archem 100%. (Because you can't agree more than totally)
Title: Re: Megaman Legends 3 cancelled
Post by: EliroX904 on July 19, 2011, 08:24:08 PM
Okay so I wasn't giving SM3 enough credit, but still the music and graphics don't even compare to MM, and the power-ups are cool too, but Megaman has badass weapons AND tools, including a robot dog, an elec beam, metal blades, shadow blades, a time flasher, a gravity reverse move, etc.

SM3 is definitely NOT as great as everybody says, I'm with Lucas here, I actually thought the first Mario game was better than SM3. I liked the graphics and music in SM1 WAY better, and SM3's gameplay wasn't that much better so there. SM3 is not as great as everyone says, and MM beats it in every aspect. SM3 just felt like a half-assed sequel to me so Nintendo could make movie about it and get money off the 9,000,000,001 people who played the first game and would beg their parents to take them to see that waste of time movie "The Wizard".
Title: Re: Megaman Legends 3 cancelled
Post by: Archem on July 19, 2011, 08:35:28 PM
I don't even care who disagrees, because they're wrong.
Title: Re: Megaman Legends 3 cancelled
Post by: EliroX904 on July 19, 2011, 08:53:41 PM
Hey Archem,

DON'T BE A DOUCHE LORD.

All you've said is "SM3 is the best platformer on the NES because it's SM3", you haven't even given a real reason to why it's so good.
Title: Re: Megaman Legends 3 cancelled
Post by: fruckert on July 19, 2011, 09:02:23 PM
Added gameplay mechanics that work really well, better level design, improved graphics, all-around better presentation, stuff like that.

But yeah, basically I disagree with you in every possible fashion about that.

Also, I'd take your own advice. Nobody likes people who talk like generic internet douchebags.
Title: Re: Megaman Legends 3 cancelled
Post by: SaiKar on July 19, 2011, 09:22:40 PM
I think my favorite Megaman was the V on the gameboy. The one that had you go TO SPACE TO FIGHT ROBOTS ON JUPITER AND ****. God that was so cool. It even had a death star.
Title: Re: Megaman Legends 3 cancelled
Post by: EliroX904 on July 19, 2011, 09:25:20 PM
Added gameplay mechanics that work really well, better level design, improved graphics, all-around better presentation, stuff like that.

But yeah, basically I disagree with you in every possible fashion about that.

Also, I'd take your own advice. Nobody likes people who talk like generic internet douchebags.

Megaman 3 does the same thing as SM3.
And excuse me for sharing my opinion.
Title: Re: Megaman Legends 3 cancelled
Post by: fruckert on July 19, 2011, 09:39:19 PM
I'm not talking about your opinion, I'm talking about the way you present it.
Title: Re: Megaman Legends 3 cancelled
Post by: zuhane on July 19, 2011, 09:41:48 PM
No way, man. It was the best platformer in the world when it came out, and with the addition of a save system like in All Stars, still very playable to this date. Very tight platforming, huge number of different levels, power ups you could save and use when you were in trouble. It's a fun game today.

You're allowed to not like it and like Megaman better, but I think you're going overboard here and not giving due credit. And MM's music can be pretty awful >_>

Agreed! NSMB: Wii has levels without a touch on the older Mario games!
Title: Re: Megaman Legends 3 cancelled
Post by: EliroX904 on July 19, 2011, 09:48:07 PM
I'm not talking about your opinion, I'm talking about the way you present it.
I'm not the one who said somebody else's opinion is wrong without even saying why. You're just on his side because you have the same opinion on SM3.
Title: Re: Megaman Legends 3 cancelled
Post by: Cerebus on July 19, 2011, 09:56:26 PM
I wish I had Admin Powers so I could say
"Stop this, or I'll delete the whole thread and reduce all your post counts to zero."
But then I'd be perma-banned the same day.
Title: Re: Megaman Legends 3 cancelled
Post by: EliroX904 on July 19, 2011, 09:57:16 PM
NSMB Wii was disappointing. SMB1 was great, but not perfect. Same goes for the Megaman games as a whole. Mr Gimmick was perfect.

We done now?

I can agree with that, even if I don't like Mr. Gimmick nearly as much.
Title: Re: Megaman Legends 3 cancelled
Post by: Archem on July 19, 2011, 10:16:23 PM
Play Mr. Gimmick.
Looks like a cross between Mario and Kirby. That's pretty neat.
Title: Re: Megaman Legends 3 cancelled
Post by: fruckert on July 19, 2011, 10:22:59 PM
I never got past the first three enemies.
I suck at it.
Title: Re: Megaman Legends 3 cancelled
Post by: zuhane on July 19, 2011, 11:41:03 PM
Hey Archem! I'll get the ball rolling by saying this! You might 'Bawl' when you go on Steam! Balls!
Title: Re: Megaman Legends 3 cancelled
Post by: Archem on July 20, 2011, 02:29:54 AM
Gee, I wonder where the hell that came from? I'll be honest, I'm kind of bowled over by this round of conversation.

Sphere.
Title: Re: Megaman Legends 3 cancelled
Post by: fruckert on July 20, 2011, 02:33:34 AM
I'm confused.
Title: Re: Megaman Legends 3 cancelled
Post by: drenrin2120 on July 20, 2011, 06:02:25 AM
oooooog, did you say RUM and v8?

and uh, megaman is awesome, but that's no excuse to waste your money on the 3ds. Or any other piece of crap nintendo decides to vomit up.
Title: Re: Megaman Legends 3 cancelled
Post by: HobomasterXXX on July 20, 2011, 06:08:33 AM
To anyone who didn't see/totally overlooked my post, Megaman Legends is COMPLETELY different to the other Megaman games in about every way possible. The only similarities are some character names (like two of them) and the actual title. Whether or not you choose to suck all of the dicks and not like the classic Megaman games, that has jack **** to do with legends really.
Title: Re: Megaman Legends 3 cancelled
Post by: EliroX904 on July 20, 2011, 06:24:52 AM
oooooog, did you say RUM and v8?

and uh, megaman is awesome, but that's no excuse to waste your money on the 3ds. Or any other piece of crap nintendo decides to vomit up.

This. The 3DS doesn't even have any good games, and if they are good games they are either
A) Remakes
or B) Cancelled

Not to mention the 3D option can really give you a headache after a while >_>
Title: Re: Megaman Legends 3 cancelled
Post by: zuhane on July 20, 2011, 11:35:21 AM
Archem and I love our spherical banter!
Title: Re: Megaman Legends 3 cancelled
Post by: Archem on July 20, 2011, 03:44:19 PM
It's full of circular logic and 360° revolutions. Despite the rounded edges and elliptical movements, you'll notice that what we're saying rings true.
Title: Re: Megaman Legends 3 cancelled
Post by: SaiKar on July 20, 2011, 07:19:48 PM
Not to mention the 3D option can really give you a headache after a while >_>
I find it really relaxing. It feel very natural to me. No headachey. Are you sure you've set the 3D depth to a level that you like the look of?

But yeah, prospects are looking increasingly dim. I really should have known better than to expect strong 3rd party support on something that must be difficult to program like 3D for what you get out of it. Oh well. They'll make a Mario Kart and hopefully a Mario Bros and a Metroid and a Zelda and a couple of other decent games, so it'll be a worthwhile system to own in... uh... a year or two. I hope.
Title: Re: Megaman Legends 3 cancelled
Post by: EliroX904 on July 20, 2011, 09:04:38 PM
I find it really relaxing. It feel very natural to me. No headachey. Are you sure you've set the 3D depth to a level that you like the look of?

But yeah, prospects are looking increasingly dim. I really should have known better than to expect strong 3rd party support on something that must be difficult to program like 3D for what you get out of it. Oh well. They'll make a Mario Kart and hopefully a Mario Bros and a Metroid and a Zelda and a couple of other decent games, so it'll be a worthwhile system to own in... uh... a year or two. I hope.

I've tried different depths, and in the end I just like 2D.

But y'know, if the 3DS has some great games for LoZ, Metroid and especially Earthbound, I'd probably get my own.
Title: Re: Megaman Legends 3 cancelled
Post by: oooog on July 20, 2011, 09:12:39 PM
3DS would have been a great purchase, had they specifically announced the dates of the games they said would be in the launch window, or at least defined what the launch window would be.  To them, the system releasing in March, the launch window remains open well in to the holiday season.  After I had reserved the system, they announced that the earliest game I was looking forward to, OoT, would be coming out mid-June.  Now I'm watching as the others are getting pushed further and further back, or in this topics case, cancelled all together.

I better get my goddamn Layton Vs Wright.

And yes, V8 Berry Blend + Bacardi's rum was surprisingly good.
Title: Re: Megaman Legends 3 cancelled
Post by: Archem on July 20, 2011, 10:03:50 PM
The 3D doesn't give me a headache, but I have trouble keeping the effect going. It's like my eyes are cross-proof. They keep evening out, and the image keeps doubling. It's a little bit of a struggle.
Title: Re: Megaman Legends 3 cancelled
Post by: oooog on July 20, 2011, 11:24:50 PM
I don't like the 3D full blast, but about 1/2 to 3/4 of the way seems to be a good fit.  I don't get a headache unless I play for hours on end, but frankly and game after 1 and a half hours starts hurting my eyes.
Title: Re: Megaman Legends 3 cancelled
Post by: Grandy on July 20, 2011, 11:37:38 PM
Looks like a cross between Mario and Kirby. That's pretty neat.

I'll admit that looks pretty fun.
Title: Re: Megaman Legends 3 cancelled
Post by: drenrin2120 on July 20, 2011, 11:38:16 PM
Oh, berry blend, that's a lot different.

The 3d was surprisingly cool. I tried it out and liked it, but I have a hard time believing I'd use it for too long.
Title: Re: Megaman Legends 3 cancelled
Post by: oooog on July 20, 2011, 11:52:11 PM
The Tropical Punch is alright with it as well, but nothing beats Berry.

The 3D does create a strong visual appeal.  I love the greater sense of depth perception, although it isn't necessary.  The only issue with it is the aiming of the projectile weapons (in OoT), but that was easily solved if you remember to turn your whole upper body.

In an attempt to force this train back on it's rails.  I was opening for kind of a first person approach for this game should you so choose with Megaman Legends.  But alas... it'll never be.
Title: Re: Megaman Legends 3 cancelled
Post by: Cerebus on July 20, 2011, 11:56:27 PM
Oh yeah, that's where the 3DS talk was. Oh well.

Also, I guess you meant "hoping" rather than... opening?
Title: Re: Megaman Legends 3 cancelled
Post by: Grandy on July 22, 2011, 10:50:38 PM
Hey guyse, speaking of Capcom

http://press.capcom.com/pressreleases.asp

SAN DIEGO – July 22, 2011 – Capcom® Entertainment, Inc., a leading worldwide developer and publisher of video games, and Sanrio, Inc., creator of beloved icon Hello Kitty®, today announced a partnership to create a new line of co-branded Street Fighter™ themed merchandise that will launch in fall 2012. The collaboration will be a fusion of the unique styles of these world-famous brands, yielding a broad range of merchandise featuring Hello Kitty dressed in the distinct costumes from the Street Fighter series of video games.

Capcom has long admired Sanrio and their ability to create memorable and cherished lifestyle brands so it is a distinct pleasure to partner with them for this new cross-over line of merchandise,” said Joshua Izzo, Director of Licensing, Capcom Entertainment, Inc. “The combination of Street Fighter and Hello Kitty will offer fans a whole new way to experience our characters.”

We are always looking for new ways to surprise our fans and partnering with a strong brand-focused company such as Capcom is a natural fit for us,” said Jill Koch, Vice President of Brand Management and Marketing, Sanrio, Inc. “Hello Kitty and Street Fighter have a dedicated core following around the world and our collaboration brings the legacy of both brands together in a fun and unexpected way.”

Specific details on the co-branded merchandise and retailer availability will be released at a later date.
Title: Re: Megaman Legends 3 cancelled
Post by: fruckert on July 22, 2011, 11:20:24 PM
That just makes me want to see a DMC themed Hello Kitty thing.
'cause that'd be funny hurr hurr
Title: Re: Megaman Legends 3 cancelled
Post by: Archem on July 23, 2011, 02:07:37 AM
I am palming all of the faces.

All of them.
Title: Re: Megaman Legends 3 cancelled
Post by: HobomasterXXX on July 23, 2011, 03:55:11 AM
Fun fact: Capcom said they wouldn't put Megaman X in the newest version of MvC3 because he wasn't high enough on the polls.



He was at the top of the polls. Literally the very top by a significant margin. Also Capcom are saying they cancelled Megaman Legends 3 because noone was demanding it. Worst PR ever.
Title: Re: Megaman Legends 3 cancelled
Post by: EliroX904 on July 23, 2011, 05:01:06 AM
Hey guys, even if you don't care about Megaman PLEASE LIKE THIS PAGE:

http://www.facebook.com/pages/100000-Strong-for-Bringing-Back-Mega-Man-Legends-3/149316248475958

I got back on Facebook just to support this, maybe the game could be greenlit if the goal is reached. I don't even care about the 3DS or MML, but these people need as much support for the petition as they can get! Wishful thinking, but it's worth the shot. I mean it takes 2 minutes to log on and press the like button.
Title: Re: Megaman Legends 3 cancelled
Post by: HobomasterXXX on July 23, 2011, 05:40:32 AM
Petitions never work. Like, ever. Facebook groups are like the retarded younger cousins of petitions.
Title: Re: Megaman Legends 3 cancelled
Post by: EliroX904 on July 23, 2011, 06:08:44 AM
Petitions never work. Like, ever. Facebook groups are like the retarded younger cousins of petitions.

Well I know that. But these people want to reach their goal and even if it doesn't work, it's worth the shot.
Title: Re: Megaman Legends 3 cancelled
Post by: ZeroKirbyX on July 23, 2011, 06:59:30 AM
Well, if they already said they cancelled it from lack of interest when there was a ton, what makes people think they won't disregard this.
Title: Re: Megaman Legends 3 cancelled
Post by: EliroX904 on July 23, 2011, 07:22:54 AM
Well, if they already said they cancelled it from lack of interest when there was a ton, what makes people think they won't disregard this.


I asked people on the page the same thing and everyone facepalmed me so there must be SOMETHING, right?
(Wrong)
Title: Re: Megaman Legends 3 cancelled
Post by: Prpl_Mage on July 23, 2011, 07:29:09 AM
No earthbound / mother have been released in English that I know of. People complained about that as well. But in the end it was the people who decided to do something about it and make an English patch who made a difference. Not the ones saying how silly Japan is.
Title: Re: Megaman Legends 3 cancelled
Post by: HobomasterXXX on July 23, 2011, 09:23:28 AM
The first two mother games were released in English though
Title: Re: Megaman Legends 3 cancelled
Post by: Grandy on July 23, 2011, 06:13:57 PM
No earthbound / mother have been released in English that I know of. People complained about that as well. But in the end it was the people who decided to do something about it and make an English patch who made a difference. Not the ones saying how silly Japan is.

I wish we could make a working patch of MML.
Title: Re: Megaman Legends 3 cancelled
Post by: EliroX904 on July 23, 2011, 09:05:26 PM
The first two mother games were released in English though

The first one was translated into English, but it wasn't released. Maybe it'll be on VC some day, but that's it.

Speaking of Earthbound, it has a lot of fan-support, but it sold horribly on the SNES. MML has a lot of fan support but the MML series' sales have never been too good, and the 3DS aint too popular, so if MML3 wasn't cancelled Capcom would've lost a good amount of money. I can understand them doing it. They don't need a bunch of people who haven't even played MML or don't even have a 3DS backlashing against them.
Title: Re: Megaman Legends 3 cancelled
Post by: Grandy on July 23, 2011, 11:26:26 PM
Don't you speak Japanese? Do it!


But yeah, the Mother 3 patch was awesome. Most people wouldn't know about that amazing game without the patch. It was really good.
...the bad news is where I found it.

I'd need a game to patch first.
Title: Re: Megaman Legends 3 cancelled
Post by: HobomasterXXX on July 24, 2011, 04:39:25 AM
The first one was translated into English, but it wasn't released. Maybe it'll be on VC some day, but that's it.
Wasn't the GBA compilation of the first two released in English?

Also I'm pretty sure there would have been at least a slight profit margin in it for them if they finished MML3, it was hardly looking like a big budget blockbuster after all, and the fanbase has only grown since the original games.
Title: Re: Megaman Legends 3 cancelled
Post by: EliroX904 on July 24, 2011, 05:07:03 AM
Wasn't the GBA compilation of the first two released in English?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yg2u_De8j5o
Title: Re: Megaman Legends 3 cancelled
Post by: A Forgotten Legend on July 24, 2011, 06:09:59 AM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EarthBound_%28series%29

Wikipedia that ****.  Only Mother 2 was released in the US, as Earthbound in 1995 for the SNES.
Title: Re: Megaman Legends 3 cancelled
Post by: SaiKar on July 25, 2011, 08:07:52 PM
Earthbound was very "love it or hate it." And I understand people that hate it. The graphics are completely awful, from the battle system to the interface menus. And it's actually really, really hard. Simple encounters with normal enemies at certain points just totally destroy your party, and boss battles turn into spamming ice and rockets before you get hit with some horrible move that one-hit KOs you, disables you, or otherwise wipes you out.

I ultimately enjoyed the experience for the story, the music, and the strange sense of humor. But I would have made a considerably different game if I was in charge of Earthbound, and I have no interest in playing any of the others in the series.
Title: Re: Megaman Legends 3 cancelled
Post by: Archem on July 26, 2011, 01:23:47 AM
For me, the battle system was a big deterrent. I also wasn't fond of the music (don't care what anyone says, I found it annoying).
Title: Re: Megaman Legends 3 cancelled
Post by: fruckert on July 26, 2011, 01:42:41 AM
Main reason why I didn't play Earthbound is because I hated the battle system.
Couldn't stand it at all.
Title: Re: Megaman Legends 3 cancelled
Post by: Archem on July 26, 2011, 05:56:50 AM
I'm pretty much at the point where respect points are worthless. I could lose them all over the place, and still have more than I know what to do with. They're worth less to me than Boondollars.
Title: Re: Megaman Legends 3 cancelled
Post by: HobomasterXXX on July 26, 2011, 06:03:45 AM
Earthbound's battle system and graphics were pretty awful. Mother 3 improved massively on those two aspects (well, not massively with the battle system but I find it a lot more engaging due to the rolling HP counters and combo system)
Title: Re: Megaman Legends 3 cancelled
Post by: Prpl_Mage on July 26, 2011, 05:44:31 PM
Yeah, earthbound is a really special game. Grinding is the way I went with them though.