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Off-Topic => All of all! => Topic started by: DragonBlaze on August 31, 2011, 01:33:31 AM

Title: Drugs
Post by: DragonBlaze on August 31, 2011, 01:33:31 AM
So I'm really curious, but what is everyone's opinion on drugs/alcohol? I classify alcohol with drugs because it's a substance that changes human behavior (and state of mind) just like any other drug would, legal or illegal.

I drink alcohol on weekends with my friends. Personally, I think as long as you don't drink to the point where you hurt yourself or other people, it can be a lot of fun. I'm gonna be honest, as some of you may have already guessed, I also smoke pot.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Dragonium on August 31, 2011, 02:05:22 AM
Alcohol. I'm pretty big on real ale and cider.

Also caffeine is fun from time to time, although it just gives me jitters lately so I think I'm going to lay off it for a while.

But then you wake up with a naked, vomit-covered friend in your couch, and there are bite marks on your penis, and not only the whole house smells of every bad smell you can think of, but your mother will be home in a few hours... Well, it's not something I want to do again.

The hell were you drinking, gay potion?
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Zerlina on August 31, 2011, 03:37:54 AM
I love a good social drink, or getting buzzed at parties, but not drugs.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Grandy on August 31, 2011, 04:11:29 AM
Never drank, never smoked, never did anything really.

Sometimes I feel curious as how it must be to try some of these things, but in the end I just decide not to. In fact I'm aware that I am a little afraid of the idea.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Cerebus on August 31, 2011, 04:49:01 AM
Never smoked, never took any drugs and only drank very small amount of alcohol.

To be honest, being drunk/high isn't something that interest my the slightest. I want to stay far away from thinks that creates a false happiness, or else I might grow dependant on it...
No but seriously, I've seen enough stupid due to alcohol, it tastes like piss and I don,t have money to waste on that. No. I'll but cans of Java Monster instead, which are actually more expansive, but won't stupidify me.

However, I have nothing against people who drink/do drugs, but don't come annoy me with your drunk/high talk.
Especially drunk... drunk people talking are annoying.

Also, I despise those who feel the need to mention they are drunk/high when they clearly are only looking for attention.
Seriously, you're not cool because you drink or smoke pot, it's nothing special. And no, I'm not aiming at any of you.
I'm aiming at those who, for example, when you play a game, feel the need to mention "lol guys I'm drunk/high".
This really annoys me. I don't care if you are. Shut up. Leave and run into a wall.

Only alcoholic drink I like so far is Pina Colada. And I'd rather have it without alcohol, actually. Less expansive and no piss taste.
And no, I don't want to get used to the taste of piss.

Yeah...
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: fruckert on August 31, 2011, 04:51:25 AM
I'm a total pothead.
It's the best thing for my bad hip (being serious here) and it's a ton of fun.

Alcohol sucks. Can't stand the taste, although vodka is alright if you drown it with orange juice.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: aboutasoandthis on August 31, 2011, 10:43:06 AM
Don't smoke or drink pot, but I loves me some alcohol. Many cognac and vodka. Not a fan of gin or beer.

I actually believe the drinking age in the US should be lowered, just as long as the person is drinking responsibly. Sucks cause I see the opposite everywhere in the military. I had to carry some behemoth back to his dorm room because I worked security that night. I've also put many a friend over a toilet or in the recovery position. :/
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: MissingName on August 31, 2011, 02:06:40 PM
Drinks: I would rather have a small amount of something good with people I know than have tons of shitty stuff with people I've never seen before.
I'm quite partial to bourbon, scotch and whiskey.  (Damn 21 drinking age!)

I smoke cigars once in a while, buy you're more likely going to find me chewing on one instead.

And that's about it.

But then you wake up with a naked, vomit-covered friend in your couch, and there are bite marks on your penis, and not only the whole house smells of every bad smell you can think of, but your mother will be home in a few hours... Well, it's not something I want to do again.
Jesus Christ.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: DragonBlaze on August 31, 2011, 04:40:20 PM
Well I'm glad to hear that no one is into anything dangerous like heroin or DMT. I have a room mate who has had cancer twice already, and has had a fourth of his brain removed because of a tumor, he's 21 now. Because of that (and because he's in a metal band), he is big into pot, but he also wants to experiment with a lot of other types of drugs because he figures he won't live to long anyway. So that kinda scares me :/

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But then you wake up with a naked, vomit-covered friend in your couch, and there are bite marks on your penis, and not only the whole house smells of every bad smell you can think of, but your mother will be home in a few hours... Well, it's not something I want to do again.

That just about beats any drinking story I've ever had! lol are you sure you weren't roofied?

Even though I've been 21 for a few years now, I think the drinking age should be lowered as well. When I turned 18 I had to register for the draft. Apparently I was old enough then to be drafted into the army and put on a suicide mission, but not old enough to have a beer?
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Darkfox on August 31, 2011, 05:51:58 PM
Don't drink or do drugs, I don't really like to think on something that would inhibit or screw around with the functioning of my brain even if for a moment. Do what you want, but don't zealot it to me, I've had enough crazies preach to me how great it was. One of them died in a car accident, another had to be put on life support several times, so uh... not exactly convincing.

Honestly, caffeine and sugar are as far as I go to a substance that affects my behavior. Otherwise I am high on life and some people say I sound drunk or high at times so I guess I'm... good? O_o Regardless, I'm generally very against it, though drugs more-so than alcohol considering that I accept the latter as a health beneficiary on occasions.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Prpl_Mage on August 31, 2011, 07:01:37 PM
Got drunk occasionally then my brother took me out and drank me 6 feet under the table, I don't remember much about that night except getting into a bunch of fights and puking all over the bus stop and then again when I laid in bed. Good times. My body is kinda rejecting anything that tastes like alcohol since then though.

I still prefer to have my head clear and my body under control, more or less the only thing that stops me from doing slightly bad stuff.

And when it comes to drugs, I don't do them but know enough people who do. Some have the classical tv high, others gets more like nervewrecks and one just assumes a second personality like that. Not interested in it at all. But if you're gonna do drugs, do stuff like pot. The Netherlands realized this some time back when they legalized stuff like this while keeping the stronger more dangerous drugs out of people's way.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: A Forgotten Legend on August 31, 2011, 07:08:14 PM
Meh, I used to be totally against drinking and then I got wasted with two of my instructors form high school (not teachers, but basically younger adults that work with the high school band).  After that, I'm perfectly fine with getting really drunk.  Haven't done anything really stupid yet so, I think I'll be pretty okay in the future.

Drugs... I've never had any illegal ones, but I think I'd be okay with Pot, but I would have to eat it since smoking would be completely stupid because of my major.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Archem on September 01, 2011, 01:24:19 AM
I've had plenty of friends who used drugs, and I have to work hard to convince folks that I'm completely clean. Like, family, friends, family of friends, friends of family, work, school, strangers trying to bum something off of me, etc. I suppose that I look and act like the most blatant user ever.

I drink a little, but usually not enough to get any real effect. I'm not even sure why I drink; I don't really enjoy it that much.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: SaiKar on September 01, 2011, 04:55:14 AM
I've been really drunk a few times. Like, drunk to the point where the body really won't accept anything more down the gullet, booze or otherwise. And things were pretty much fine. I told some weird stories, made some totally out of character comments. I was told I'm an adorable drunk. Remember the vast majority of it. Didn't throw up. Didn't have gay gay sex with a friend like Lucas.

It was okay. Expensive, and I felt kinda lousy the day afterward, but fun.

I don't like beer. The hops is bad. But vodka is fine.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Shady Ultima on September 01, 2011, 07:26:17 AM
I find I'm kinda the opposite of almost everyone here. I drink very little, preferring pot over alcohol. I really can't understand why pot IS illegal, considering that it is not that unhealthy. Most people believe it hurts a lot, but the truth is, it actually helps the body relax. It lowers blood pressure, helps with eating disorders, and, strangely enough, it actually improves lung performance. Many famous brass/woodwind players smoke it, because in the process of smoking, you take a deep breath and hold it, and then release, which actually increases lung strength.
 
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: HobomasterXXX on September 01, 2011, 11:40:55 AM
Haven't touched pot or any drugs really (family history of mental illness is not something I want to add to), but I drink frequently. I can hold my alcohol like a champ, so long as I don't mix different kinds of alcohol (that ends very badly. Oh so badly). Can't stand beer or wine though, I stick with spirits, usually Bourbon, Rum or Vodka. Although I can only stand most alcohols if I dilute them a lot with coke/orange juice/insert beverage here, or just do shots. The worst thing I've ever done when drunk was puke everywhere, and that was the result of mixing wine, bourbon, vodka and god knows what else in quick succession. I didn't even drink a large volume of alcohol, just made the mistake of mixing.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Razor on September 01, 2011, 11:48:11 AM
I wouldn't mind drinking I guess, but it costs so damn much and I have better things to do than spend it on the one-time-fuzzies
*proceeds to buy pokemon cards*

Also DragonBlaze we should talk 3D some time
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: fruckert on September 01, 2011, 07:01:21 PM
[...]it actually improves lung performance. Many famous brass/woodwind players smoke it, because in the process of smoking, you take a deep breath and hold it, and then release, which actually increases lung strength.
The problem with that little theory is that you're holding smoke in your lungs, which is pretty unanimously agreed upon as being absolutely awful for your lungs.
Admittedly, good pot has very mild smoke, but it's still smoke.

Now vaporizers, that's another story.
Vaporizers are awesome.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: PPL on September 01, 2011, 07:58:25 PM
At the age of 12 I already learned to smoke cigarette, at 15 smoke marijuana and liquor at 17 methamphetamine. But all those are just a history of me, now I'm clean and healthy for I all slowly erasing each in my brand new life. Church/religion? absolutely, nope...! It just came out in my mind to wake up of long time nap. Actually, the latest anniversary I celebrate is my first free of nicotine last 2 days ago.

Its all gone...!

Just believe in yourself and motivate.



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Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: A Forgotten Legend on September 01, 2011, 08:58:10 PM
Awkward.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: fruckert on September 01, 2011, 11:24:53 PM
Hey, at least this one isn't kicking topics.

I.E. the cleverbot thread.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Archem on September 02, 2011, 12:14:27 AM
I like these semi-intelligent bots. I'm not killing them, because they're almost like having new members.

Almost.

The problem with that little theory is that you're holding smoke in your lungs, which is pretty unanimously agreed upon as being absolutely awful for your lungs.
Admittedly, good pot has very mild smoke, but it's still smoke.
Good to see someone else isn't ignoring the obvious flaw in that theory.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: A Forgotten Legend on September 02, 2011, 12:44:23 AM
As a woodwind player meself, I've found pretty much any kind of smoke is harmful to playing.  And my professor would kiiillllll anyone who even touches a cig or anything with smoke.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Cerebus on September 02, 2011, 01:15:46 AM
What if you "touch" someone who smokes? Would you get killed for it?
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: SaiKar on September 02, 2011, 05:43:27 AM
It's a vicious cycle.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: HobomasterXXX on September 02, 2011, 07:47:56 AM
The problem with that little theory is that you're holding smoke in your lungs, which is pretty unanimously agreed upon as being absolutely awful for your lungs.
Admittedly, good pot has very mild smoke, but it's still smoke.
There's also the issue that the majority of pot smokers often make mixes which have tobacco in them, which definetly ISN'T good for your lungs.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Dragonium on September 02, 2011, 03:22:02 PM
Up to 80% of house fire deaths are caused by the smoke rather than the fire.

Smoke is bad, doesn't matter what it's from.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: DragonBlaze on September 02, 2011, 06:48:33 PM
There's also the issue that the majority of pot smokers often make mixes which have tobacco in them, which definetly ISN'T good for your lungs.

I have never heard of anyone doing this before  O.o

Smoke in general isn't good for you, but pot smoke is better than most. The reason cigarette smoke is so bad for you is all of the added chemicals they throw in, and these chemicals kill tissue in your lungs. While pot smoke also coats your lungs with residue, it is an all natural substance that your body can break down very quickly, and in general, won't kill your lung tissue. It also helps if you filter the smoke with water, because that removes a lot of the residue.

I also believe pot should be legalized. No one has ever died from pot, it is physically non-addictive, no long term side effects, and in general, no one gets wild, violent, or dangerous like some people get with alcohol.  It also has a lot of great medical uses. For example, my girlfriend's mom had a car accident and was pretty much disabled. She was in and out of surgery for years, and was on a constant supply of Vicodin and other powerful pain relievers. She got addicted to them and started feeling really moody and shitty all the time, but had no choice because of all the pain. I gave her some marijuana, which she used as an alternative pain killer, and it really helped her. My room mate's grandpa was also helped by pot. He had terminal cancer and was given less than a year to live, but then his doctor came up with some experimental procedure where he boiled the THC out of marijuana leaves and put it into pill form. The THC, when in the blood stream, attaches to fast growing cells in the body, and in a cancer patient, it's the cancer cells. Long story short, in a few months all of his cancer was gone, and he was completely healthy. 
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Shady Ultima on September 03, 2011, 01:24:46 AM
Hey, I don't mind if people here doubt me, I've seen the research, and I've seen it first hand. My buddy has been a severe asthmatic for his entire life, until about two years ago, when he started smoking pot (he moved to Vancouver... go figure). He used to have to see a doctor twice a month, but now, there is no problems at all. The pot smoke helped relax the muscles of the lungs, and fixed his asthma.

While in general smoke inhalation is bad for you, so is drinking a poison chemical, or putting a poisonous mineral on fries, (and I'm sure there are many other things I can't think of).

I should point out that smoking from a bong/water pipe is much better for you than smoking a joint, because the paper burning isn't good.

And all those house fire deaths because of smoke, it's not because of the pure smoke, it's because of the chemicals in the wood that houses are built with, or the melting of plastic to make tvs and computers, and so many other things
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: HobomasterXXX on September 03, 2011, 02:29:10 AM
I have never heard of anyone doing this before  O.o
Maybe it's unique to Australia or something, cause it's really widespread here.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: HobomasterXXX on September 03, 2011, 06:33:24 AM
I don't see why someone would do that on purpose, but if you're selling it, it makes sense. Tobacco gets people addicted, and since pot isn't as addictive as it is, adding some will make the customer need more. Or something.

Though to be honest nobody really does that here either, as far as I know.
It's on purpose. I can't speak of what effect it has on the actual effect, having never smoked, but I wouldn't be surprised if cheapness is a factor.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: fruckert on September 03, 2011, 08:27:04 AM
It's probably filler, to make it last longer. Never smoked tabacco before, so I don't know what it'd do.
I still doubt the "smoking is good for your health" thing. Every single time I've smoked I've been short of breath, and coughing for at least half an hour. And this is with medical grade permafrost, and stuff like that.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: drenrin2120 on September 03, 2011, 02:26:58 PM
Where I'm from, some people sell pot nicknamed Puerto Rican Hydro. It's pot sprayed with windex so it looks dank and shiny.

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There's also the issue that the majority of pot smokers often make mixes which have tobacco in them, which definetly ISN'T good for your lungs.
Spliffs. That's twat we americans call that.

I can't help it, I hang out with a lot of potheads. Well, not all of my friends are potheads, but if they aren't, they probably enjoy smoking often. I got no qualms with pot. I've never once seen someone tweak out on pot or get aggressive. That's in stark contrast to the amount of people I've seen get aggressive while drinking alcohol or using other drugs. It really is mind numbing how many people are stubbornly against pot.

I drink from time to time. I enjoy getting sloshed, but I've cut back a lot since doing so on a semi regular basis has put friendships, relationships and my job at risk. My suggestion for people who like to drink is to get use to beer, buy a six pack of something nice and stick with it. Because beer is only 5 to 7 percent alcohol, it's much easier to moderate. Considering liquors are anywhere from 20 to 100% alcohol, these are not only harder to moderate but when you're black out drunk and you've got half a liter of vodka left, that's just dangerous.

Oh, and I used to smoke cigarettes like a ****ing chimney when I worked at this gas station. I don't work there anymore and I've cut back a lot. More than half a pack a day to 2 or 3 a day. Cigarettes are ****ing stupid. They're only useful when you adjust to them, and even then the affects are deceiving. You feel more relaxed when you have a cigarette because you've been craving one. You're not actually relaxing, you're easing the craving for nicotine. Basically, you're addicted.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Archem on September 03, 2011, 04:25:53 PM
Yeah. Cigarettes are the worst drug you could possibly do.
You know about hard drugs, right?
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Bluhman on September 03, 2011, 04:55:52 PM
Brazilians are immune to Heroin.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Archem on September 04, 2011, 02:07:42 AM
I'd beg to differ.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: DanielW on September 09, 2011, 06:54:46 AM
I am totally caffeine addicted.  ::) ::)

Drugs are not for me (I have this forum instead)  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: channal1 on September 14, 2011, 07:26:13 AM
As a woodwind player meself, I've found pretty much any kind of smoke is harmful to playing.  And my professor would kiiillllll anyone who even touches a cig or anything with smoke.


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Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Archem on September 14, 2011, 12:14:02 PM
Ok, I deleted that bot's other post about Zerl's creepy stalker, but I'm leaving this bit of plagiarism here. I like this bot and its eerily relevant posts.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: HobomasterXXX on September 14, 2011, 12:36:31 PM
They're just edited posts from other people though, mostly.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Archem on September 15, 2011, 12:49:11 AM
plagiarism
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Moosetroop11 on September 18, 2011, 03:41:30 AM
*4 days later*

I get drunk quite a bit but I'm a pretty nice drunk.

As for other drugs...  I don't tend to like being around people when they use them because their personality changes and it's hard to feel included without using yourself.  Other than that, I have nothing against them really.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: MissingName on September 18, 2011, 03:57:42 AM
These first few weeks of college have been disappointingly dry...
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Moosetroop11 on September 18, 2011, 11:28:37 AM
Don't they have horrible organised things where you go out and get wasted with a load of people?  It's usually good to go to those even if you think they'll be bad...  Unless you know people there already.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: EliroX904 on September 30, 2011, 12:16:29 AM
When I was little, my dad offered me 1 sip of beer, and the taste was so bad, I vowed never to put another drip of it in my mouth.

And to this day I still don't drink.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: fruckert on September 30, 2011, 08:05:49 PM
Reminds me of that Calvin and Hobbes strip where Calvin's mom lets him smoke a cigar.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Archem on September 30, 2011, 11:14:25 PM
My dad fucked up with that lesson. He had me try one of those Mike's Hard Lemonades. Those taste like lemonade. After that, he tried beer. Didn't work. One day, I ended up chugging a glass of beer because I thought it was the apple juice I poured for myself. After the fact, I realized that distinctive alcohol taste. I'm by no means an alcoholic, but I don't hate it.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: HobomasterXXX on October 01, 2011, 04:24:05 AM
I still can't stand beer. It has the worst taste. The fact that you managed to  confuse a glass of beer with a glass of apple juice is a little special.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Archem on October 01, 2011, 05:06:58 AM
Aside from quickly downing it (in what now seems like a rather gluttonous move), there's also an odd taste similarity that I find between the two. I suppose it lies somewhere in the realm of after-taste (which is the primary taste when chugging fluids).
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: drenrin2120 on October 02, 2011, 08:35:05 AM
Aside from quickly downing it (in what now seems like a rather gluttonous move), there's also an odd taste similarity that I find between the two. I suppose it lies somewhere in the realm of after-taste (which is the primary taste when chugging fluids).

Are you sure it wasn't cider? Because that makes no sense.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Archem on October 02, 2011, 04:25:44 PM
Totally.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Dragonium on October 02, 2011, 08:51:15 PM
You can't dislike cider. Even the cheapo chemical stuff and the throat-searing bathtub scrumpies are drinkable.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Archem on October 02, 2011, 08:54:06 PM
Ah, cider. It's the filthiest apple juice going.

I love it so.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Prpl_Mage on October 02, 2011, 10:55:50 PM
You can't dislike cider. Even the cheapo chemical stuff and the throat-searing bathtub scrumpies are drinkable.

Probably the most comfortable way to get drunk as well.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Felix0 on October 04, 2011, 04:22:54 PM
I
 thought this was gonna be about
D.R.U.G.S
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Razor on October 05, 2011, 01:52:10 PM
Stop everything I have the best joke?

DragonBlaze? More like [spoiler]DragonBlazed[/spoiler]

Thank you and good night!
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Moosetroop11 on October 05, 2011, 02:20:48 PM
Lilsniffs lines of coke

lolololololololol
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Razor on October 05, 2011, 02:27:05 PM
ahh ****
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Dragonium on October 05, 2011, 08:36:09 PM
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Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Cerebus on October 05, 2011, 08:42:30 PM
Prpl_Haze.

Drugonium.

Shoot, I thought I'd have some more...
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Archem on October 06, 2011, 12:11:23 AM
Hard chems.

I'm sure I've ego'd myself in somewhere...
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: MissingName on October 06, 2011, 02:51:03 AM
Bottle of Svedka.  Oh yeah.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Ace of Spades on October 07, 2011, 06:45:40 PM
I love herb. I'd say any time I've gone somewhere and it was a smoking "party" everyone got along nicely and were all good pals. Compare that to drinking where your own best friend might be trying to swing at you due to a little too much 151. Everything in moderation though is my motto when it comes to any of this. Sure it's not exactly harmful to get completely baked out of your mind, but personally I enjoy having "deeper" conversations with my friends when we all smoke. Smoking just to "get high" isn't exactly my forte, every once in awhile I'll have one of those days where I just wanna relax and get extremely stoned, but I don't like getting retarded high like a lot of others do.

With regard to harder drugs.. I watched Requiem for a Dream so I'm good on that :P