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Off-Topic => All of all! => Topic started by: Archem on November 05, 2011, 02:54:13 AM
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Ok, so my house has the only nearby street right behind it, and it's a simple two-lane street with no lights or traffic, and two deep ditches on either side. About five minutes ago, I hear a loud squealing and a crash. I look out back and see a smoking vehicle right on the other side of my back fence. An ambulance is right outside my window as I type. Sweet Jesus, I'm full of adrenaline right now. I hope the driver is ok. Man, more emergency vehicles are showing up right now. People are all over. I think someone said the driver isn't breathing. The car is definitely on fire. I'm totally shaking right now. I've never seen the normally pitch dark street like this right now. My two dogs are flipping out.
Excitement, I suppose.
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Pictures taken on a camera phone. Blurry, shaky, and not well adjusted, but they're pictures.
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Weirdly enough, if I saw a car accident outside my house, I would barely even find it noteworthy, let alone tell people about it 0_o
Does that make me heartless? I mean, unless I knew the people in the crash.
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My dad is pissed because my sister is all sunshine sparkles about this. For her, it's a cool spectacle. For my dad, it's a terrifying reminder of how she drives around at night and stays out until the wee hours of the morning. I really wish that the two of them would shut up with their constant arguing right now.
Update sorta: Pretty sure the driver (seems to be a teenage girl) is dead. Big gash in the side of her head, paramedics aren't acting with any level of haste.
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Ok, so I'm not getting sleep tonight, I can see that. I'm wound up tighter than some kind of a spring on Jupiter or something. Dead girl, younger than me, right on the other side of my fence. I'm pretty tense, slightly nauseous, and I think I'd rather not hear my family talking about it with their eclectic views on this (ranging for dead-serious to completely ecstatic). I'm pretty sure my emergency phone call was the first one through, but a few other cars had stopped on the road by the time I snapped about what had just happened. Yikes, this is intense.
Sorry in advance if I massively multi-post. Kind of hard to keep my cool right now.
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My dad's going out right now to pick my younger brother up from some school. Some kind of band event. I have never been so worried about this as I am right now. My brother's going to flip, I think. Hope it's not someone he knows from school. Might not be, since he's still pretty new there, but still.
Guh, I think I might end up throwing up sometime soon if all this adrenaline doesn't work its way out of my system. Also, I've never had such a hard time typing the word "system". Typos everywhere. Red squiggle is my nemesis right now.
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Ah the adrenaline rushes, makes life worth living. I think I've grown too content with life as it is, walked down town and saw a car laying upside-down and just kept walking without a care in the world. I guess it's worse if it happens so close to you though, not like it's possible to escape it. And of course even worse if it's someone related.
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Wow, I don't really know how I'd feel if something like that happened around me... closest thing that's happened here was a murder one street over from me. I never saw anything happen though, and I didn't know the guy, but the thought of a killer being in my area was a bit scary.
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I got my driving license about... six months ago. But I hate driving, because I always imagine it'll end like that, no matter how careful I am.
In fact I almost crashed in two cars in sequence two months ago, and refused to drive since. I've got to get back to it sometimes before I forget the basics, but... scary stuff.
(If you're wondering, I didn't see the red light, stopped just before crashing on another car, he made frenetic moements of "well goddamn if you're this far in the lane just go ahead!" and I was like "NO!" and he's like "JUST GO ALREADY" asnd everyone started honking because I was breaking the goddamn flow of a major street and I snapped and went foward... and almost crashed on another car coming the other way. Then, arriving home, I gave the keys to my father and said nevermore.)
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This is pumping your adrenaline?
You really don't get out much.
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Son, you ain't seen a car accident until you've seen a British car accident. (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-somerset-15606278)
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So they removed the body at about 12:45 last night. My sister was mystified by seeing a corpse, while I was a bit disgusted by both the idea and her reaction to the events. The emergency vehicles were there until about 2:30 cleaning up the scene. Today is my sister's 21st birthday. For those not familiar with US drinking laws, that means she can buy alcohol now. This is all compounding into a rather worrisome mix. I know her driving habits, and I can't say I trust her at all.
I don't think I like the spirit of youth right now. I'm not talking about the possible idiotic behavior that led to the death of that girl last night, I'm talking about how almost everyone I've spoken to about it who is under 30 seems to take it with either excitement or neutrality. The comments range from making fun of the dead and behaving like they're having the time of their life, right down to "no big deal, it happens all the time". No big deal, right? Kids younger than you wreck their cars about 100 feet from your window at night and then die there all the time, right? My sister commented that "at least they died having fun. I hope I can die happy like that", and it rocked me. One of my closest friends commented on how it's hardly worth noting. He would know, he was in an accident about a week-and-a-half ago. The only people who act in a way that seems appropriate, respectful, or whatever, are people above that age. Gone are the "live fast, die young" thoughts, and rational thinking seems to have kicked in. My father said "this is horrible! A mother isn't going to have a daughter tomorrow! She's dead, they're not doing anything for her! She has a hole across the side of her head, she's dead!", and my sister just made fun of the situation right in front of him. It made me sick.
Maybe it's because I worry too much. I've seen too much death in my life. Lots of lost family, plenty of complete strangers, and none of it helps. Worst of all, I worry. I worry about my family and friends, and when they do something dangerous or disappear for no reason, my mind wanders into a horrible little realm where the worst-case scenario plays out. I can't just blow off the death of a stranger, because I think about the wave of effect. The moment of death, the family's reaction to the news, the person's friends, co-workers/school teachers, their commitments and plans, and how everything has just come to a horrific end all at once. It's intense. Then, worst of all, I imagine for a moment that I'm directly tied to this tragedy. Not an "I'm responsible" attachment, but rather a "they could be someone I care about". It's stressful, and my God, I think I'm actually about to cry thinking about it right now. Man, this is horrible.
Honestly, I think that those of you making too much light about this issue are losing a bit of respect right now.
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I got my driving license about... six months ago. But I hate driving, because I always imagine it'll end like that, no matter how careful I am.
And this is why I'm just not even ready to get my driver's licenses.
About the accident, is it known what happened?
Because I'll be honest; if alcohol or speed is involved, I don't feel pity for her.
I mean... I'm sorry, but I can't feel bad for someone who drives in a way that can put other people's life in danger.
Because those people could actually cause the death of others. And in fact, this happens all the time.
Not saying that if it's the case, death was what she deserved, though... but I'd rather a reckless driver dies than cause the death of others.
Now of course, it could be a complete different reason. But crashes due to alcohol and/or speed are so common that I'm inclined to think it might be the case here.
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Not sure of the cause, but it's been reported that she wasn't wearing a seat belt, and that she died on impact.
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This is pumping your adrenaline?
You really don't get out much.
And how many sudden, violent deaths have you seen first hand?
I haven't seen anything like this up close, so I can't really relate to your feelings on the matter, but I have to agree that the attitude people in general are having to this are sickening.
Seriously, shame on you. Somebody just died.
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I've seen lots of accidents. For whatever reason, people see the need to speed in my (usually) quiet neighborhood. It's not unusual to see two or three accidents a year. The worst I saw up close was the guy with his snapped humerus pushed past his elbow through the skin.
In another accident we passed by (not in my neighborhood), there was a car bent around the tree, with paramedics just standing around looking at a sheet-covered body.
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I'll be honest; if alcohol or speed is involved, I don't feel pity for her.
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I don't think I'd react much differently if I were you, Archem.
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Why should I feel pity for someone who drives recklessly and put other people's life in danger?
I'm not saying those people deserve death, but if there is to be someone dying, I'd rather it's the one speeding/driving under influence than the one who was walking/driving near. And I'm not talking about this case specifically, since it's still unknown what happened, but about any case where speeding/drunk driving is involved.
I mean... how many times do you see someone getting killed by those? Too often. So yeah... sorry, but I wouldn't feel pity.
But again, don't get me wrong: If either speeding or alcohol is involved, I'm not saying she deserved death.
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Maybe not pity, but at least something. Remorse? Maybe not quite that, but regardless, I can't just feel nothing.
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There's no lying that the death of a teenage girl is sad. I'm not saying "Meh, who cares?".
I'm just saying that I can't feel pity for someone who could have caused the death of people who I would feel pity for.
However, it's still uncertain whether it's the case or not, though. I mean... she might just have been distracted and lost control of her vehicle or something.
And of course, when it happens right in front of you, it's completely different, too.
I mean... you probably would have felt different if you had just heard it from someone.
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It's a shame to be sure. I see an accident at the intersection by my workplace at least once a week, so I'm a little desensitized to it. Never seen a death as a result, but I've had to call an ambulance on multiple occasions. Though after witnessing a shooting and being robbed at gunpoint, the adrenaline rush isn't quite the same.
Odd topic to return to and chime in on, but oh well.
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I understand where you're coming from and what you're saying. It just seems pointless to debate why you should or shouldn't feel pity for someone who died based on why they died. People do lots of stupid, reckless things.
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And how many sudden, violent deaths have you seen first hand?
I haven't seen anything like this up close, so I can't really relate to your feelings on the matter, but I have to agree that the attitude people in general are having to this are sickening.
Seriously, shame on you. Somebody just died.
Two.
I've seen one fatal car accident happen in front of me, almost hitting the car with the people i was in, and the other was a guy beaten and then taken to the hospital where he died.
However this is not the point. My point wasn't about feeling bad for a person dying (which I do, passing it off as I don't care is a little inhumane.). My point was that he was feeling pumped for a crash in his backyard (or near his backyard as seen in the pics.). I mean, UNLESS he was going into action and help out, I do believe there was no reason to get 'pumped'. I am not saying I got nerves of steel but, I've been close to many, many crashes and seen a fire or two breakout close to places in which I stayed, and yeah there's that spectator feeling, but that's it. He sounded frantic on his OP post.
I guess my realization here was that he had probably never witnessed stuff like that so close, again, as my accusation went, because he doesn't get out much. Which, aside of the death of a human being (which is terrible), was my point.
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I understand where you're coming from and what you're saying. It just seems pointless to debate why you should or shouldn't feel pity for someone who died based on why they died. People do lots of stupid, reckless things.
I guess you're sort of right, but in a way, my own post isn't any more pointless than the "I wouldn't have really cared" ones.
The only difference here is that I explain why and you clearly disagree with me.
Perhaps my own point of view makes me look like a jerk, and I suppose it was sort of pointless to mention it, yes... but oh well.
I once started a thread where I said I saw someone who just had died (didn't see him die, just like less than a minute after he fell to his death) and two or three posts were pretty much "People die. Who cares?".
Was it pointless to say this? Kind of. Should they have refrained from saying this? Not really... they're free to tell their own opinion.
It's not like I said "B*tch got what she deserved". Because I don't think she did.
But anyway... you're free to feel pity for her, just like I'm free to not feel any if the reason she crashed was because she was driving dangerously and putting other people's life in danger.
Oh, and also... I'd probably be pumped as well if an accident where people died occurred only a few meters away from where I live.
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I guess my realization here was that he had probably never witnessed stuff like that so close, again, as my accusation went, because he doesn't get out much. Which, aside of the death of a human being (which is terrible), was my point.
The explanation helps a bit to make you look like less of a jackass, but honestly, if watching as a tragic event happens just outside the window, where you can't walk away and try to get past it, you're going to be a bit rattled. It could have easily veered to the left instead of to the right, gone through my fence, and into my house. The only reason it ended up where it did is because of the tree it basically rebounded off of. Saying that someone doesn't get out much just because that affects them is kind of bullheaded, and a little inconsiderate. It's not like I've never seen a serious accident happen in front of me, or that I've never been closer to the action where someone ends up dead; I have. I'm just not really able to shrug it off. It sticks with me. It digs deep. It really hits me like a brick wall, and I can't just get over it like some people seem to be able to do.
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I'm not trying to paint you as jerk cerb. Sorry if I came off that way.
I mean, people deal with **** in different ways. I don't think it really says much about them other than they're human.
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It's good that you care, but the sooner you come in terms with death, the better.
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Badass mode activate. Gotcha.
I'll just stick with being me.
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I'm not trying to paint you as jerk cerb. Sorry if I came off that way.
I mean, people deal with **** in different ways. I don't think it really says much about them other than they're human.
I didn't say anything about that, though.
I mean... if someone cares and pity her no matter why it ended up this way... there's absolutely nothing wrong with it.
Not saying anyone who reacts heavily to this kind of stuff are sissies... it just show they aren't heartless.
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I know the name of the victim now. A major local newspaper has a story on it.
Link Time (http://www.chron.com/news/houston-texas/article/17-year-old-dies-in-Harris-County-wreck-2256182.php)
No mention of alcohol, but I still have to wonder if she was texting or something.
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Seems like she neglected her seatbelt. She could have survived if she wore it.
No mention about speeding either.
I guess her death was due to negligence and possibly being a little careless.
And this, pals, is why you should always wear your seat belt and be concentrated on the road.
Too bad many people seem to think they're safe, that they can't get accidents, etc. A good amount pay with their life.
I feel sorry for her. Wasted her life for so little.
Too bad some people don't learn. Bet many people will go "My prayers for the family, poor girl. You should always wear your seat belt." then drive back home without theirs.
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Yeah, I still don't understand why people won't take the couple of seconds to put the thing on. I remember hating them when I was a kid, but that was because I was too small, and they would dig into my neck. Now that I'm an adult, there's no reason for me not to wear something so effective at keeping you from flying out of the windshield.
She went to my brother's high school. No surprise, but it's really one of those six degrees kind of things.
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Well if I ever want to creep on Archem in the future I now know where to find him. Just kidding.
Thats a horrible sight to witness. I drive at night all the time and I have to focus really hard on the road. Especially with all those goddamn dear we have here in PA.
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You weren't already? Man, you guys blow.
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I am; I'm just more subtle about it.