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Off-Topic => All of all! => Topic started by: zuhane on December 04, 2011, 02:04:49 AM
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Hey everyone. I've probably just never bothered to tell anyone this, but I'm a black belt in Taekwondo which I've trained in for
7 years. I've also done lots of training in Kali, Escrima, Feng-Shou, boxing, Jujitsu and also go to the gym 3-4 times a week. I'm
a very placid and non-violent person, but I train constantly at my club, striving to be the best at my martial art. I'm in pretty damn
good physical condition and can beat most members of my club in sparring matches, or even beat multiple people at once.
However, I went out clubbing tonight with friends. I'd had a little bit to drink, but still had my wits about me. Some guy mouthed off at
me because my hair isn't reminiscent of a prison convict with 1 GCSE, so for once in my life, I decided to mouth off back at him. But yeah,
this kind of resulted in him chasing me all the way down a street. I was in absolute shock and terror after I shouted it. I'm glad I'm safe and okay,
and I'm glad my cardio's good, but do you ever wish you could redo something? It's especially annoying considering I've won over 6 trophies and
been placed in the top 14 competition in my club out of 200 people and been told by all my friends that I could smash anyone's face off if I
wanted to.
I'm just sat here now, shaking. It's a horrible feeling, and I wish I could have taught the scumbag an agonizing lesson.
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You do know that is has been proven, in multiple studies not just one, that knowing martial arts has nothing to do with having being able to stand up for yourself in such a situation? Your competition is that, a competition. It's not a real fight, it's not real stress. During your contest you can hold your own because you know what to expect, you know how they can fight. And worst of all, there are rules. Out there are no rules. You don't know if that guy has a knife or a gun or how he can fight. Your mind just enters a flight mode.
Point is, don't get worked up about it, it's natural instinct.
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He's right, you know. You did the smart thing by not trying to assert your might.
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Yeah, my friends were all saying that he could have been carrying a knife, could have known some nasty people, could
have been a linebacker. Still, only certain aspects of my martial arts are competition-based. Wing-chun is has been adapted for
street fights and disposing of people quickly. But yeah, it's the whole 'real life' factor that sets in.
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In your situation I like to think that I would have fought, but I really have no idea :p I'd just love to do it.
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At least I'm alive and can continue to work on RPGs and talk to you lot! Seriously, how **** and empty would
these forums be without me?
Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!
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AAAWWWW YEEAAAAAAAH!
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Question, do you get all adrenaline filled while exercising your art or do you remain calm? Because that's kinda what differs the most. In one case you get pumped up and remain so while in the other you keep your cool and do what you've been taught.
Sure your muscle memory will still work if it actually lead to a fight. But being in that pressured situation compared to the ambitious competition makes a lot of difference.
End of the line, never get into a fight you don't know that you can win. Fighting each other with honour and sportsmanship is not the same as brawling it out with some drunk in the street. He might just dwell on it and retaliate at some point.
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its all ways wise to walk a way and see a new day
you may of had the cop's on your back
for giving the a hole a good kicking
then you get a bad name for your self
so i say you did the best thing at the end of the day
and that was to walk a way
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Fighting should be reserved for when you absolutely need to use it.
Though you probably would have won, it probably wouldn't have been worth it. At the very least you would have gotten kicked out of the club, the cops probably would have shown up, he may have gotten a lucky hit on you, and like you guys said, he could have had a weapon.
It would have felt awesome beating the **** out of him, but you did the smart thing, and this way, you don't spend the night in jail. Save your fight for when you need it like if a friend is in danger.
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We should bring back duels to society. You feel wronged, challenge the guy to a duel and meet up at a ring and brawl it out. One of you win and the other have to apologize.
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I love how some of you expect him to actually win without a doubt. Martial arts =/= fighting.
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The Scandinavian knows what he is saying. Let us all do it in the old ways of the vikings and nothing will go wrong.
Oh and, Zuhane? You're way more badass than I thought you'd be.
Black belt and guitar player? Yeah boi! :P
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I love how some of you expect him to actually win without a doubt. Martial arts =/= fighting.
Martial Arts: (noun) Various sports or skills, mainly of Japanese origin, that originated as forms of self-defense or attack, such as judo, karate, and kendo.
Correct, martial arts != fighting, but you train many of the same skills that are required to be a good fighter. You learn how to find openings in your opponents defense, you learn how to strike fast and hard, you learn how to defend against your opponents attack, you train your reflexes, etc. There's a reason that UFC and professional MMA fighters mostly all have black belts in various forms of martial arts, and it's because the skills they learned from those disciplines transfer to real fights.
And when I know nothing about person A, and one of the few things I know about person B is that they are a black belt in a form of martial arts, the odds from the current information suggest B would have the advantage ;) .
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Well, in a real fight you could have every advantage and still lose. There's way more factors than who the better fighter is, such as luck. That's a big one. You could be winning and then knock him next to an object that can be used as a deadly weapon, and thus you lose. I doubt it's as easy to disarm someone in real life as it is in a martial arts class when you know it's coming and you're expecting it.
What you should do is go start fights regularly and get used to the feeling lol Well, you shouldn't do that, but getting used to the environment, situations and unpredictability of a real fight could be useful I guess.
The terror and instinct to flee is mostly because of an unfamiliar situation I think.
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Martial Arts: (noun) Various sports or skills, mainly of Japanese origin, that originated as forms of self-defense or attack, such as judo, karate, and kendo.
Correct, martial arts != fighting, but you train many of the same skills that are required to be a good fighter. You learn how to find openings in your opponents defense, you learn how to strike fast and hard, you learn how to defend against your opponents attack, you train your reflexes, etc. There's a reason that UFC and professional MMA fighters mostly all have black belts in various forms of martial arts, and it's because the skills they learned from those disciplines transfer to real fights.
And when I know nothing about person A, and one of the few things I know about person B is that they are a black belt in a form of martial arts, the odds from the current information suggest B would have the advantage ;) .
Like I said before, you learn how to fight against other martial arts users, who also use the same or similar techniques. It's nothing like on the street.
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you learn how to fight against other martial arts users, who also use the same or similar techniques. It's nothing like on the street.
This. Just like a fighting game, you know your opponents moves, but you're gonna lose the moment a new character joins the fray simply because you don't know what to expect.
When fighting the same style as your own you don't just know what the other person can do, you also know it yourself and have practised useful defense against it.
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Well, but the martial arts guy will at least have more strenght and stamina than someone who never does any kind of exercise.
Who says they never exercise? The guy could've been a body builder, a construction worker, a baseballer, a kickboxer, jogs for fun, loves to kano. Just because you do martial arts doesn't mean your strength and stamina are better than the guy who doesn't.
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How many "street" fights have you guys been in?
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drunk hobo
unfair
Drunken Fist (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drunken_Fist)
How many "street" fights have you guys been in?
I've been in enough fights to know not to judge someone based on appearance in terms of fighting. Even when I was still one of the star players of my baseball team, known for my hard swings.
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How many "street" fights have you guys been in?
Only a few, nothing spectacular or life threatening in the end though. Most were over the moment people stepped in and pulled us away, The usual. Fights during drinking on the other hand - don't end well as often. So avoid that kids.
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How many "street" fights have you guys been in?
Quite a few. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Street_Fighter#History)
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To be fair, the guy looked pretty out-of-shape and that's probably why I had to courage to call him what I called him.
Even if you don't always apply the skills, the fitness is there, and that fitness stopped me getting possibly beaten up.
There's lots of misconceptions about martial arts that I've learned about martial arts over the years. You have to always
remember that when you're drunk, your motor skills just aren't up to scratch. You need to be aware of your speed limits
that get capped. There's always the chance he'll have a weapon, I fall over, he has friends, etc. Fighting isn't some huge
movie fight scene - it's about whoever scores the first nasty hit. After that, you chain through with more moves until you
win.
Martial arts aren't useless by any means, and I feel confident in being able to win against someone with no martial arts/fitness training,
but they don't make you invincible. They just assist in situations and slightly bump up your chances of not losing every time
you practice them. A lot of the stuff we do isn't just flashy ****. We do lots of close up grabby bitey teary elbowy bone-breaky
stuff and practice being thrown around, do pain conditioning and really go for it. Most of our stuff isn't catered towards fighting
other martial artists, but is more catered to drunk people trying to tackle you, punch you, grab you, etc. It's all great, but there's
the nerve aspect that I think wouldn't go away until I'd been in a proper fight.
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It happens a lot. I have a lot of friends who practice martial arts, some in pay dojos and some who straight up fight. One of em even practiced wing chun in China for like ten years and used to deal with the Chinese gangs in Hong Kong. I'd put my money on the guys who straight up fight in training to those who go to the dojos. I've seen it happen and guess who wins.
Story short, its normal. You've trained under very safe, contained situations. You've never had to train to incorporate all the feelings and emotions that run when your *** is really on the line.
Of course I could be wrong. Feel free to refute.
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The best self-defense in a fight is to run away in the opposite direction, e.g. not towards your enemy. It's better to leave the foe unharmed than to be harmed, no matter how strong you are.
Also, if there is one thing more scarier that martial arts, it's marital arts.
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Also, if there is one thing more scarier that martial arts, it's marital arts.
Well said.
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I think we need to make Drace and Zuhane fight, and after we sees who wins, we will know which is better: martial arts or whatever Drace does.
Probably pull a gun and shoot his knee. Hmmm... I wonder who'd win.
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[spoiler]SKYRIM.[/spoiler]
It was inevitable. I just thought I'd be a dick and ruin your guys' fun.
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Took a bullet to the knee? Damn you, memes.
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I came back to Charas to post an arrow-to-the-knee joke in this thread.
Never mind, then.
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I came
It's all that matters.
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Just making sure you know what's going on. God, this thread is begging for sexual satire.
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Clever girl.
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I feel sorry for all the geeks if games like street fighter and tekken develops some sort of virtual reality fighting simulator thingy to play the game.
Bye to all the fancy moves, agility and hadokens.
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He has a thing for sucking all the aggressiveness out of dogs
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He has a thing for sucking all the [...] dogs...
Gotcha.
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