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Off-Topic => All of all! => Topic started by: Felix-0 on October 13, 2012, 10:52:57 AM

Title: Finally free of my job.
Post by: Felix-0 on October 13, 2012, 10:52:57 AM
Yep, put in my two weeks at MlycDonalds. This is such a relief, 3rd shift at our McDonalds was probably the worst idea ever.
Ugh. I missed out on the short game contest, been overswamped with work and sleep. I haven't gotten around to doing much of anything, but. Now, I am free. I'm working on an XP project, unsure of what way to go.
Arcade based.
Stage based.
or
Horror based.

As much as it seems like I'm not immersed in the RPG Maker verse. I'm always thinking about different projects and ideas.
I'm also still working on my RPG Maker texture pack. (Which is at 12000+ downloads)
So yea, that's my life.
Title: Re: Finally free of my job.
Post by: Prpl_Mage on October 13, 2012, 11:24:51 AM
Congratulations I suppose?

Gamemaking contest was prolonged to november 30 so you got time.

Projects are fun.

post some picture.
Title: Re: Finally free of my job.
Post by: Felix-0 on October 13, 2012, 12:33:27 PM
Pictures of what?
My RPG project.
I can work some stuff up for screenshot wise though.
Most of the stuff I've been working on is my minecraft/RPG crossovers texture pack wise. 

:edit:
Ugh, now I remember why I gave up on the survival horror.
Nowhere near enough resources, well none that I can find. Of gun poses/ monsters/ broken down cities.

*sigh*

I just, no matter what idea I want, I can never seem to collaborate enough resources to follow through on a project.


I can tweak BlizzABS to make awesome guns, make cool RPG Skills for that type of stuff.

Here is some old screenshots for gets and shiggles.
(https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc6/248626_1968926696182_3380210_n.jpg)

(https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc6/247493_1968927056191_2968035_n.jpg)

(https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc6/260195_1968926896187_1833220_n.jpg)

(https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc6/246870_1968927096192_4499399_n.jpg)

(https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/260121_2022860084483_2365256_n.jpg)


I make such good combat systems, but that's as far as my talent goes.
Title: Re: Finally free of my job.
Post by: drenrin2120 on October 13, 2012, 04:54:17 PM
So youre an unemployed bum now, eh?
Title: Re: Finally free of my job.
Post by: daoman89 on October 13, 2012, 05:23:10 PM
I have a question.  Did you work with a bunch of immigrants at mcdonalds??  or is that only here in PA
Title: Re: Finally free of my job.
Post by: Cerebus on October 13, 2012, 05:37:15 PM
Well I can safely say that here, it's not all that different about that.
Title: Re: Finally free of my job.
Post by: Cerebus on October 13, 2012, 05:50:27 PM
To be honest, though, it doesn't make much of a difference. I mean... in the end, the burger you receive is the same!
Title: Re: Finally free of my job.
Post by: Archem on October 13, 2012, 06:09:43 PM
Our McDonalds don't have any immigrants.
It's like you're baiting me.
Title: Re: Finally free of my job.
Post by: Prpl_Mage on October 13, 2012, 06:13:56 PM
To be honest, though, it doesn't make much of a difference. I mean... in the end, the burger you receive is the same!

Yeah, doesn't matter what country you're in. Always the same.
Advertisement makes it look like an actual burger compared to what you get.
Title: Re: Finally free of my job.
Post by: Cerebus on October 13, 2012, 06:27:02 PM
Haha, yeah, true that. It's like their $1 burger thing. They look big, they look good. But what you receive is much more smaller and less appetizing than whet they show.
Title: Re: Finally free of my job.
Post by: drenrin2120 on October 13, 2012, 06:47:01 PM
In all restaurant ads ever the food has been treated with chemicals and shtuff to make it look purty and yummy. But if you actually ate it you'd get violently ill and it would taste like bleach.
Title: Re: Finally free of my job.
Post by: Felix-0 on October 13, 2012, 08:02:27 PM
I worked 3rd shift. A lot of people quit, in rapid succession. Some wanting new jobs, some not able to handle the bullshit we went through.

1: If anything went wrong, it was our fault.
2: Anything broken, our fault.
3: Anything lost, our fault.
4: 2nd shift was allowed to clock out exactly at 10.
5: 3rd shift schedule is 10-6, some days they would have us stay after till 6:30~ sometimes even 7:00
6: By the time I quit, we only had 6 people on our hired shift, including me.
7: For the last month I worked, I didn't get a single break.
8: Many people had to work multiple posts. I would have to work Fryer, Grill, and Finish.
9: If things went well, every other shift got compliments except us.
10: Our times were the best, but the other shifts found other things to degrade us or insult us.
11: We're the only shift that was required to do dishes. Some days we found egg caked utensils from the day before.
12: We had the most duties imposed per person than any other shift.
13: Within the last 5 days. I had flat shoes and I was constantly having foot pain.
14: On the last day, today. I had bruises forming on my heels and I had to sit down for 15min.
15: My co-worker in the kitchen was an ***hole, and ex-classmate.

That's my experience.

P.S.
Why no comments on my screenshots? :< and why the talk about fast food derpiness.
I quit my job/put in my two weeks because I'm moving. :P
Title: Re: Finally free of my job.
Post by: SaiKar on October 13, 2012, 08:44:01 PM
Sounds like you kind of got dormatted. At a certain point when conditions get bad like that, you have to pull the "what are you going to do, fire me?" card and stand up for yourselves. Works better if more than one person is doing it. Getting fired from 3rd shift McDonalds basically means you have nowhere to go but up, so you could have made them realize they need you a hell of a lot more than you need them. And, at least in every state I've worked in, breaks are legally mandated as being allowed. I think it's 14 minutes every 4 hours minimum.

Kind of moot now, I suppose, but still. It's okay to have a backbone at work. Just because they're paying you doesn't mean they get to treat you like ****.
Title: Re: Finally free of my job.
Post by: Cerebus on October 13, 2012, 09:17:08 PM
14 minutes per 4 hours? That sucks. Here it's 15 per 2 hours. Then again, we do have crap jobs that give you only one a day or none at all as well.
Title: Re: Finally free of my job.
Post by: daoman89 on October 14, 2012, 12:48:47 AM
Lol I think you should post those pics on the rpg maker boards cuz from what I can see, mcdonalds is the more interesting topic here.

Neways, I nv eat mcdonalds becuz i hate the food cuz it makes ppl fat and makes u feel like death.  I eat at burger king on occasion only becuz my friend and I sing in the drive thru to make the workers days better
Title: Re: Finally free of my job.
Post by: SaiKar on October 14, 2012, 12:59:00 AM
14 minutes per 4 hours? That sucks. Here it's 15 per 2 hours. Then again, we do have crap jobs that give you only one a day or none at all as well.
Well, lunch is usually guaranteed too, or you'd never be able to get people to take the jobs. I assume Felix at least took THAT. And 14 was a typo, sorry, meant 15.
Title: Re: Finally free of my job.
Post by: drenrin2120 on October 14, 2012, 01:04:27 AM
The 15 minute break thing is a good point. Especially at a big chain restaurant like McDonalds, if you start yelling your worker's rights at a manager they're likely to wet themselves. Still, it's not always easy when you could still lose your job and you kind of make yourself a target unless everyone on 3rd shift was with you.

Also: 3rd shift customers are the absolute worst human beings on the planet.
Title: Re: Finally free of my job.
Post by: Moosetroop11 on October 14, 2012, 01:34:32 AM
Screens look good ^_^

I assume you're asking us to comment on the system rather than the mapping.
Title: Re: Finally free of my job.
Post by: Felix-0 on October 14, 2012, 03:55:32 AM
"Employers do not have to give breaks. However, minors must receive one or two breaks of 30 minutes total if they work more than six hours in one work day.

Read more: Indiana State Labor Laws | eHow.com http://www.ehow.com/list_6297948_indiana-state-labor-laws.html#ixzz29F4dFXot (http://www.ehow.com/list_6297948_indiana-state-labor-laws.html#ixzz29F4dFXot)
"

The problem was, the managers on our shift was just as bullied as we were. There was no one we could talk to.


:edit:
more laws.


Q: Can my employer force me to work overtime?
A: Generally, yes. Absent a collective bargaining agreement or contract that states otherwise, employers in Indiana may set their work hours at their own discretion. The employee may be required to work longer or later hours. In general, there are no laws that define how much notice must be given to the employee or how many hours an employee may work in one shift. Some industries, such as transportation and trucking, may have different safety rules that would require hour limits.

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Q: Do I get paid overtime if I work more than 8 hours in a day?
A: Typically, no. Federal and state overtime laws only require payment of overtime when an employee works more than 40 hours in a work week. Some collective bargaining agreements and/or contracts will, however, state that the employee must be paid one and one half times his/her regular rate of pay when working more than 8 hours in a day. This is set on a company-by-company basis, but is not a requirement under state or federal law.
Title: Re: Finally free of my job.
Post by: Felix-0 on October 14, 2012, 03:56:34 AM
Screens look good ^_^

I assume you're asking us to comment on the system rather than the mapping.
Screenshots are old, that's a test map. Just put in place for me to test things, I.E
ranged attacks, jumping, magic, ect.
Title: Re: Finally free of my job.
Post by: SaiKar on October 14, 2012, 04:16:18 AM
Huh. Rough. Indiana kinda sucks. I mean, like, more than usual apparently.
Title: Re: Finally free of my job.
Post by: SaiKar on October 14, 2012, 05:06:27 AM
States rights, yo. The USA name isn't just for show. This country is too big and diverse for it not to happen. Letting the states be able to set different laws to support their way of life was one of the ways to agree them to unite in the beginning and has become an important part of our political system.

Also, if one of the United States has economic issues, the others don't go "lol sucks to be you we ain't takin your money enjoy a self-destructive death spiral!"
Title: Re: Finally free of my job.
Post by: Felix-0 on October 14, 2012, 05:11:37 AM
C:
it's not THAT bad Sai.
But yea, Indiana Labor laws **** you over if you don't have a labor union on your side.
Title: Re: Finally free of my job.
Post by: Cerebus on October 14, 2012, 05:13:22 AM
I won't say the US suck, but I'm really not disappointed I don't live there.

As for different laws per States, same can be said of the Canadian provinces.
Title: Re: Finally free of my job.
Post by: Felix-0 on October 14, 2012, 05:20:56 AM
yea. It sucked.
Title: Re: Finally free of my job.
Post by: Prpl_Mage on October 14, 2012, 09:39:46 AM
The European Union probably has more uniform laws than the USA.

This might actually be true.

The States and Canada are both huge. I suppose they might end up getting their own rules and levys about things. But Brazil is huge as well, but then again. I don't suppose Brazil is doing as well.
Kinda hard to speak when our country's population is equal in amount to London or New york or any other metropolis. Like 9,5 million people in an entire country, overall easy to decide upon things. But then again our little brother Norway only got like 5 million people and they even have two state languages...
Title: Re: Finally free of my job.
Post by: Moosetroop11 on October 14, 2012, 05:51:40 PM
The whole point of US states is the different laws. I think it's a pretty cool idea.
Title: Re: Finally free of my job.
Post by: Archem on October 14, 2012, 06:07:35 PM
It's all about keeping the powers in-check so that we don't end up with some oppressive government. Part of the formula is limiting national government and making sure that the states have enough power to do things for themselves.

It works most of the time. Some of the middle states are a bit odd, but that's what happens when you have limited growth and lots of Jesus.
Title: Re: Finally free of my job.
Post by: drenrin2120 on October 14, 2012, 10:16:47 PM
States rights, yo. The USA name isn't just for show. This country is too big and diverse for it not to happen. Letting the states be able to set different laws to support their way of life was one of the ways to agree them to unite in the beginning and has become an important part of our political system.

Also, if one of the United States has economic issues, the others don't go "lol sucks to be you we ain't takin your money enjoy a self-destructive death spiral!"

Pretty much this. Massachusetts does pretty good with workers rights. For the most part, employers are required to give a minimum of a half hour break for an eight hour shift along with one 10 minute break for every four hours worked. Of course, Massachusetts is pretty rough with its taxes and getting an apartment is ****ing ridiculous because of tenant laws, BUT, if you get an apartment you actually have some rights as an individual to fight eviction and force your landlord to fix **** that's broken or not up to code.
Title: Re: Finally free of my job.
Post by: Cerebus on October 14, 2012, 10:39:16 PM
Man, that sucks. Here, you get two 15 minutes breaks plus lunch (30 or 60 minutes, rarely ever paid) for an 8 hours shift. Minimum wage is $9/hour, too.
However... pretty much everything is more expensive than in the US. Except important stuff like school and healthcare.
Title: Re: Finally free of my job.
Post by: SaiKar on October 15, 2012, 12:09:55 AM
If we're not doing well, that's not because of having the same laws through the country, that's because we've been a colony until much later than the US and Canada, and we had almost 30 years of a dictatorship until very recently, during which we didn't grow at all.
Wait wait. You were under the joke of an oppressive dictatorship of 30 years, and you tell the US that they suck because of state laws?

Man. Dude. Duuuuuude.
Title: Re: Finally free of my job.
Post by: Felix-0 on October 15, 2012, 06:35:23 AM
dear god what have I started.
*slowly scuttles out of thread*
Title: Re: Finally free of my job.
Post by: Prpl_Mage on October 15, 2012, 06:55:10 AM
Countries have some weird laws and norms back and forth, like that underage girl who got raped by her stepdad and did and abortion that people didn't like. (They didn't like the abortion, the rape was all "meh")
Or when people argue against taxes,  gaycouples, interracial marriages or inter-religious marriages.
Title: Re: Finally free of my job.
Post by: daoman89 on October 15, 2012, 03:29:32 PM
I still don't fully understand how we influence the electoral colleges vote, if we do at all.  I think we technically vote for the ppl that represent the president in the college, but I am not positive and don't feel like looking it up. 

As for inter-religious marriages... who gives a damn.  we should spend less time fighting over religion issues.

Interracial marriages... not a big deal to debate over.

Gay couples... who cares about that too.  But I'll admit that homosexual males that act feminine bug me because u need to act ur gender lol

What we should be worried about and be preparing for is when our North and South poles flip and we lose all our electronic technology that we've grown to take for granted and our magnetic field barrier that protects us from the Suns harmful radiation that cause skin cancer and possibly severe weather.  The magnet is our friend lol
Title: Re: Finally free of my job.
Post by: Felix-0 on October 16, 2012, 02:47:31 AM
so yea.... nice battleground topic we created.
Title: Re: Finally free of my job.
Post by: SaiKar on October 16, 2012, 04:07:06 AM
Eh. Lucas + anything that can be remotely turned into hating the United States = the topic is hating the United States. You get used to it.
Title: Re: Finally free of my job.
Post by: drenrin2120 on October 16, 2012, 05:00:03 AM
I still don't fully understand how we influence the electoral colleges vote, if we do at all.  I think we technically vote for the ppl that represent the president in the college, but I am not positive and don't feel like looking it up. 

As for inter-religious marriages... who gives a damn.  we should spend less time fighting over religion issues.

Interracial marriages... not a big deal to debate over.

Gay couples... who cares about that too.  But I'll admit that homosexual males that act feminine bug me because u need to act ur gender lol

What we should be worried about and be preparing for is when our North and South poles flip and we lose all our electronic technology that we've grown to take for granted and our magnetic field barrier that protects us from the Suns harmful radiation that cause skin cancer and possibly severe weather.  The magnet is our friend lol

The electoral college basically distributes voting power among states. Theoretically it gives states equal voting power so that states with larger populations still matter during the election. All it really does is create a system where only a few states actually matter, hence the term "swing-states". It also takes away or gives people's more voting power as an individual. For example, my vote this year won't count as much as some dude in Ohio because I live in Massachuetts, and Massachusetts delegates will vote for Obama basically no matter what and only because he's democrat. Of course, I do get to vote for Massachusetts Senator, which is a pretty big deal this election cycle... But sadly only because of which party will get senate majority... Seriously, Warren and Brown's campaign platforms are literally, "Don't let that psycho bitch/bastard give their incompetent party a majority in the Senate! Vote for me!" -_-

Also, ever heard of a little chain restaurant called Chick-filet? Yeah, gay rights are a pretty hot topic issue. Unfortunately, lots of people in the US DO think it's somehow their business if two men or women wanna get married. Oh, and I also just saw your comment on gender roles. I don't know what to tell ya, man. Have you taken Sociology 101? That's a course I really think oughta be taught in every high school in this country, along with a slew of other college courses that are high school level courses in basically every other country.

so yea.... nice battleground topic we created.

You cannot even begin to fathom it's sinister-ness! (x_0)
Title: Re: Finally free of my job.
Post by: Prpl_Mage on October 16, 2012, 05:57:59 AM
Oh, and I also just saw your comment on gender roles. I don't know what to tell ya, man. Have you taken Sociology 101? That's a course I really think oughta be taught in every high school in this country, along with a slew of other college courses that are high school level courses in basically every other country.

Yes gender roles are socially created and maintained. It's the product of our society and all that.
But there's been research showing that kids growing up without a clear model on how to act and behave usually get confused and insecure. Not saying that they will magically turn gay or something though. That's a different thing.
People need some sort of guidelines on how to live life since it isn't exactly the most obvious thing. Yeah sure some might argue that we should live life as we please, but that kinda removes the point of even having a society.
Those who usually "don't act their gender" are well aware of how they are expected to act. For a lot of people it is just a matter of not acting like that to establish a role as an individual and other crap like it.


Also, voting systems.
We vote. Votes are counted.
The party that gets the highest percentage wins and gets to assign people to the different posts of the government.
People from the other parties get some commissioners based on the amount of votes they received. (we have 349 commissioners, so if your party got 10% of the votes, you'll get approx 34 seats in the riksdag/parliament)
And then there are some seats saved for those who received a huge amount of votes in a certain district. So a party may be doing bad in total but have a lot of support in a single place. Gotta reward that.
Title: Re: Finally free of my job.
Post by: daoman89 on October 16, 2012, 01:03:21 PM
...what even.
The reversal of Earth's magnetic poles is a natural process that happens every several hundred thousand years. It moves all the time and is moving right now and if it didn't we'd be fucked. When it 'flips', nothing will happen, and the barrier will stay there and we'll still be alive.

Our magnetic field would take a while to fully i guess we can say "recover" from the flip.  And with it weakened, we will lose our protection from the sun as stated before plus migrating animals will get confused.  Of course, nothing could happen is true statement was well, but we don't know.  If we study the sun's magnetic pole switching, which is every 11 years, we can get more of an understanding.  Either way, we should be prepared for anything within the next hundred or thousand of years because we're overdue for a flip.  And yes, what I stated above COULD happen.  The world isn't a perfect place.

As for America haters... good for you guys.

And yeah what purp said is about what I learned, nice lil memory refresher.  Thanks.
Title: Re: Finally free of my job.
Post by: Felix-0 on October 16, 2012, 01:54:12 PM
Charas!
Stahp!
Title: Re: Finally free of my job.
Post by: Archem on October 16, 2012, 05:10:20 PM
Charas!
Stahp!
You know we can't do that, Felix.

Anyway, I'm all for gay rights and whatever, but I dislike the idea that it's a lifestyle instead of a sexual preference. That's a load of horseshit, and gives credence to the people who claim that it's a choice to be gay, rather than a born-identity. Sex is sex; don't act like idiot because you don't think it's worth it if you aren't obnoxious to boot. I feel that way about every race, gender, gender identity, sexuality, etc., because there's no reason not to just be a normal person. Some quirks and eccentricities are fine, but there's no reason to be a goddam stereotype and enhance the negative public view of your social group.
Title: Re: Finally free of my job.
Post by: Prpl_Mage on October 16, 2012, 05:23:24 PM
I have to say that I agree in many aspects with what Archem is saying here.
Homosexuality is about being homosexual, same gendered sex. It's not about knowing everything about theatre, dance and brands. And acting like a pansy.

Because of stereotypes I bet there are pansies who make the assumption that they are gay.
And I bet there are gays who make the assumptions that they should be pansies.

But the gay people I know are just normal people with another sexual life than I have. I don't care what they do. I don't want to know. But that isn't just true for my gay friends.
That's kinda true for all the people I know. I have no interest whatsoever in what anyone does under the sheets.
Title: Re: Finally free of my job.
Post by: drenrin2120 on October 16, 2012, 06:20:51 PM
I agree with both you and Archem. In bringing up Sociology, I was merely stating how gender roles are societal and sexuality is individual. Gender roles are as real as you want them to be while sexuality is inescapable. Gay isn't a gender, meaning it's not a choice.

Purp, not sure what you're getting at about kids needing a clear model of standard to grow up with. I wasn't refuting that. I guess I wasn't clear with why I mentioned soc101. At least the courses I've taken have focused heavily on what is and isn't societal and how society, at least American society, can place a whole lot of blame on an individual when the problems are much broader and larger than that. Example, guilting homosexuals into Mrs. Bachman's gay-reversing clinic.

Also, Felic-0, we're not gutting eachother (just yet), we're just having a friendly debate (for now!!!).
Title: Re: Finally free of my job.
Post by: Prpl_Mage on October 16, 2012, 06:36:00 PM
Purp, not sure what you're getting at about kids needing a clear model of standard to grow up with. I wasn't refuting that. I guess I wasn't clear with why I mentioned soc101.

Well kids needs something to become. A role-model, doesn't matter what as long as there is a clear personage that they can learn from. Male or female. Gender roles usually does this. Society creates that mostly, ideas on how you should behave.
Really had nothing to do with what you mentioned. I just got a bit off-topic (which we do thanks to Felix).
Title: Re: Finally free of my job.
Post by: daoman89 on October 16, 2012, 06:52:52 PM
I know a lesbian and she's cool as ****.  She's a girl you can talk to like she's a man lol.  I believe everyone should just be who they are, gay, nerdy, obsessed with lifting, musician, etc you get the point.  A lot of people care about what others think of them and that can influence how they grow up blah blah. 

And I think we all know that Lucas doesn't truly hate America...  right?  I mean the only reason he could hate us is if we did something to him personally or to his country etc.  I don't know where the dude lives so if he could say and explain why he hates us, if he really does, then that'd be swqueet.  Otherwise, don't hate our race! 
Title: Re: Finally free of my job.
Post by: fruckert on October 16, 2012, 07:15:00 PM
This topic is making me want to gouge out my eyes.
Title: Re: Finally free of my job.
Post by: drenrin2120 on October 16, 2012, 09:03:52 PM
For reals
Title: Re: Finally free of my job.
Post by: daoman89 on October 16, 2012, 09:06:57 PM
Why?
Title: Re: Finally free of my job.
Post by: drenrin2120 on October 16, 2012, 09:36:55 PM
Nah, I pretty much agree with you. This isn't in response to why, but I don't think hating America means you hate its people... Well, atleast not all of the time. If Lucas hated Americans, he wouldn't have stuck around for years on a forum half-populated by Americans. I won't speak for Lucas, but he does live in a part of the world where America's foreign has had some not so awesome effects on its local people.
Title: Re: Finally free of my job.
Post by: Cerebus on October 16, 2012, 11:08:25 PM
I know a lesbian and she's cool as ****.

That's a problem I have with people who "accept" gays. It's like "Haha, sweet lesbians! Oh, ew, gays..."
Now, I'm not saying that's what you meant, don't worry. But saying "Guys shouldn't act like girls, but hey, this girl acts like a man, she's cool!" sounds kind of hypocrite.

To be honest, I'm fairly sure you're not like that, even though it sounded a bit like it to me. But many people actually are like this.

But yeah... nice screenshots!
Title: Re: Finally free of my job.
Post by: daoman89 on October 16, 2012, 11:49:09 PM
Lol not what I meant and haha she doesn't act like a male.  She's just idk how to explain it :P
Title: Re: Finally free of my job.
Post by: Archem on October 16, 2012, 11:52:21 PM
That's a problem I have with people who "accept" gays. It's like "Haha, sweet lesbians! Oh, ew, gays..."
Now, I'm not saying that's what you meant, don't worry. But saying "Guys shouldn't act like girls, but hey, this girl acts like a man, she's cool!" sounds kind of hypocrite.

To be honest, I'm fairly sure you're not like that, even though it sounded a bit like it to me. But many people actually are like this.
Part of the issue here is that women have a long-standing tradition of being tomboys when they feel like it. Men have a long-standing tradition of being men. That plays into social norms. A big part of that comes from the women's equality movements over the years that have made women free to do as they please, with many of them behaving, dressing, and acting in ways typically associated with men at times in our history. It's something that won't be an issue, since men have been in control of the world throughout history, meaning that they have set what they want as their accepted norms, and no "equality" movement will ever happen. It's somewhat hypocritical, yes, but it's not quite the same as gay women and gay men acting in ways that are typically set for the opposite gender's behavioral norms. Anything past being able to accept a person for their behavior is decided by the person's sex drive, and is to be considered biased and not admissible in this topic.
Title: Re: Finally free of my job.
Post by: daoman89 on October 17, 2012, 02:14:10 AM
So are you saying that the homosexuals act the way they do because of their sex drive, not because of they have the right to?  I'm trying to understand your statement better.
Title: Re: Finally free of my job.
Post by: Moosetroop11 on October 17, 2012, 03:00:46 AM
In my extensive experience, gay people do tend to 'act' gay.  Sexual preference does not just affect who you want to sleep with.  That doesn't mean there aren't exceptions, but I think it's a little naive to think that homosexuality doesn't affect your personality in other ways, because it definately does.
Title: Re: Finally free of my job.
Post by: daoman89 on October 17, 2012, 03:16:38 AM
I've always found it hard to believe that a person is born gay.  I mean sure maybe some are, but are all people who are gay born that way?  I'm a strong believer in how society influences people's personalities when they are growing up.  But then there's that part of when a child is born how they act differently from other children.  Like say when you were a baby you never cried where as your little sister always cried.  But does a new born child even know sexual attraction yet?  I'll have to look into it more one day.  The world is a complex but fascinating place.  Just look around you one day and embrace the world's beauty and appreciate the chance to be a part of it.
Title: Re: Finally free of my job.
Post by: Archem on October 17, 2012, 03:44:50 AM
So are you saying that the homosexuals act the way they do because of their sex drive, not because of they have the right to?  I'm trying to understand your statement better.
Not really. I'm saying that the idea that lesbians are more socially acceptable (at least from a male point of view) than gay men comes from the male mind, which sees women and sexual acts, then jumps straight to eroticism. Seeing men and sexual acts seems awkward, and may be tied to baser instincts regarding territorial behavior and mate selection and exclusivity. I can't expressly speak from a woman's point of view regarding their reactions to viewing or imagining same-sex partnerships per gender, but I imagine the thought process is similar.

In my extensive experience, gay people do tend to 'act' gay.  Sexual preference does not just affect who you want to sleep with.  That doesn't mean there aren't exceptions, but I think it's a little naive to think that homosexuality doesn't affect your personality in other ways, because it definately does.
I've actually had the complete opposite. Out of every single gay or bisexual person I've ever known (and I've known a pretty good number), not a single one acted overtly "gay". They were all normal people who, if I wasn't told about their sexual preference by them, I would never have known. The closest to that was my friend John, who liked to write stories that, while quite good, always involved gay sex between two male protagonists by the third act. I just don't think that something as simple as sex can really cause a person's entire personality to warp into something that clearly isn't some requirement. I'm not convinced that simply coming to terms with who you are would make you instantly take to speaking with a lisp and wearing a tight pink half-tank top. It's not something that any rational person would see as a good idea unless they were trying to be an attention whore.

I've always found it hard to believe that a person is born gay.  I mean sure maybe some are, but are all people who are gay born that way?  I'm a strong believer in how society influences people's personalities when they are growing up.  But then there's that part of when a child is born how they act differently from other children.  Like say when you were a baby you never cried where as your little sister always cried.  But does a new born child even know sexual attraction yet?  I'll have to look into it more one day.  The world is a complex but fascinating place.  Just look around you one day and embrace the world's beauty and appreciate the chance to be a part of it.
Didn't science show that sexual attraction is, like all forms of emotion, related to chemicals produced by the brain? If I'm not wrong about that, then I wouldn't be able to believe that a person can choose or change their sexuality at will, and that something would have to have affected the chemical production of their brains before birth. The science-y explanation makes homosexuality sound more like a mutation or birth defect, so I like to not bring it up, since it's a bit insulting. Also, if my facts are all wrong, I look like an idiot for banking on them so heavily. Either way, it certainly doesn't seem like something a rational person would choose simply because of the harsh social stigma that has been associated with it for so long.

Maybe bisexuality is a choice. I would ask a few friends of mine, but it seems too awkward, and I'm not exactly sure how that would affect our friendships.
Title: Re: Finally free of my job.
Post by: SaiKar on October 17, 2012, 04:23:27 AM
I've always found it hard to believe that a person is born gay.  I mean sure maybe some are
Make point.
Immediately contradict point.

You're an interesting one.
Title: Re: Finally free of my job.
Post by: Prpl_Mage on October 17, 2012, 05:15:22 AM
I've always found it hard to believe that a person is born gay.  I mean sure maybe some are, but are all people who are gay born that way?  I'm a strong believer in how society influences people's personalities when they are growing up.But then there's that part of when a child is born how they act differently from other children.  Like say when you were a baby you never cried where as your little sister always cried.  But does a new born child even know sexual attraction yet? 

A seed will grow into a tree, destined in creation by that which conceived it. Regardless of where it grows - a seed will always rise to the sky in the end.
Title: Re: Finally free of my job.
Post by: Felix-0 on October 17, 2012, 10:18:04 AM
There is an already found gay "gene"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biology_and_sexual_orientation (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biology_and_sexual_orientation)

this applies to direct homosexuals.
I believe most of those who are Bisexual
such as myself, grow so out of simple open mindedness and probably a bit of hormones missing here or there. >_>

As of which, to this day. I haven't really told any of my close friends of my sexual orientation, mostly out of the questions I know they would ask.

I already told a few about my DID, and that didn't go exactly well.. so yea.
My 0.02$


Seriously, what topic is this thread even on? I'm so lost. All I said was that I was free of my job. ; A;
Title: Re: Finally free of my job.
Post by: Felix-0 on October 17, 2012, 10:19:34 AM


Also, Felic-0, we're not gutting eachother (just yet), we're just having a friendly debate (for now!!!).

You nubcake. You can't even type my name properly. :3c
Title: Re: Finally free of my job.
Post by: Bluhman on October 17, 2012, 10:46:32 AM
Seriously, what topic is this thread even on? I'm so lost. All I said was that I was free of my job. ; A;

You do realize you technically derailed your own topic in the very first post, right?
I mean, otherwise, it would be in a games category.
Title: Re: Finally free of my job.
Post by: Cerebus on October 17, 2012, 12:24:30 PM
I'll say, "acting gay" is not necessarily a choice, and being gay isn't at all. I mean... how many gay people live in the dark because they fear being mocked and all? Wouldn't they just choose to be "normal" if they could?
And yeah, "acting gay". Just like Archem, I know some gay people who, if I didn't know, I never would have known. On the other hand, I've seen a few where I thought "This guy is probably gay" and well... they totally aren't.
Title: Re: Finally free of my job.
Post by: daoman89 on October 17, 2012, 02:59:29 PM
Makes sense.  Thanks for doin the research for me haha i apologize for my ignorance.

Saikar, when I start typing, my mind goes all over the place so what you read was me finding it hard to believe people being born gay and then suddenly in that split second I thought of other crap and my fingers just kept on typing.  The way my mind works is I think of multiple possibilities for an answer to one problem, even if I don't agree with it because I may somehow prove my original thought wrong.  It may happen right away or it may happen hours later when it's too late (like when you realize what you told a girl offended her and explains y shes mad at you).  I did the same type of thinking at my old job.  I'd come up with multiple ideas at once and eventually I'd choose one 5 min later and BAM!!  Especially when it came to finding missing drawer money.  Sorry, it was a long response. :P

Felix, it's amazing how one little off topic comment can blow up into another topic all together.  That's how we usually keep conversations with other people, say a close friend, where the two of you talk about random *** **** for hours.
Title: Re: Finally free of my job.
Post by: DragonBlaze on October 17, 2012, 04:20:07 PM
Well I don't know WHAT I walked into here but... Congrats at leaving McDonalds (They're evil >.>). What are your plans now? Living in a van down by the river? :p
Title: Re: Finally free of my job.
Post by: Prpl_Mage on October 17, 2012, 05:06:37 PM
A wild DragonBlaze appeared!

what even. Did you ever read anything by any of the dozens of psychologists who say anything about babies? I guess not. The answer is yes.
Not really that though. Sex drive is developed at a later stage. Unless you put your trust in the Freudian school.
Title: Re: Finally free of my job.
Post by: daoman89 on October 17, 2012, 08:32:27 PM
what even. Did you ever read anything by any of the dozens of psychologists who say anything about babies? I guess not. The answer is yes.

Is there a reason why you're such a dickhead?  Is it cause I'm an American or was it because you didn't like my little note on the Earth's magnetic field that I read about and learned about during Astronomy? 

I asked the question because I wasn't sure and someone would respectfully answer it, which Prpl kindly did. 
Title: Re: Finally free of my job.
Post by: Felix-0 on October 17, 2012, 09:46:25 PM
You do realize you technically derailed your own topic in the very first post, right?
I mean, otherwise, it would be in a games category.

Quote
Yep, put in my two weeks at MlycDonalds. This is such a relief, 3rd shift at our McDonalds was probably the worst idea ever.
Ugh. I missed out on the short game contest, been overswamped with work and sleep. I haven't gotten around to doing much of anything, but. Now, I am free. I'm working on an XP project, unsure of what way to go.
Arcade based.
Stage based.
or
Horror based.

As much as it seems like I'm not immersed in the RPG Maker verse. I'm always thinking about different projects and ideas.
I'm also still working on my RPG Maker texture pack. (Which is at 12000+ downloads)
So yea, that's my life.

How did I derail my thread into the topic of homosexuality? Or does that come free of charge with any of my threads?
Title: Re: Finally free of my job.
Post by: Felix-0 on October 17, 2012, 09:47:30 PM
Well I don't know WHAT I walked into here but... Congrats at leaving McDonalds (They're evil >.>). What are your plans now? Living in a van down by the river? :p
Senpai Blaze, you n-noticed me. B-baka.
But yea.
I plan on moving out of the town I'm currently in, and getting a new job. :P
Title: Re: Finally free of my job.
Post by: drenrin2120 on October 17, 2012, 10:42:36 PM
Is freud the only psychologist to theorize on sexual development at a young age? Some of his stuff makes sense, some of its just crazy conjecture, all of it is hard to experiment making it all theorical. there has to be other work done by psychologists on this subject.
Title: Re: Finally free of my job.
Post by: Prpl_Mage on October 17, 2012, 10:55:15 PM
Is freud the only psychologist to theorize on sexual development at a young age? Some of his stuff makes sense, some of its just crazy conjecture, all of it is hard to experiment making it all theorical. there has to be other work done by psychologists on this subject.

Of course, but everyone knows Freud. Problem was that his subjects were mostly upper-middle class mentally-disturbed people. It's a bit of a problem when assuming that all humans think the same as those selected few.
Mention any of the others who claim that the very act of breastfeeding is in fact an outlet of sexual feelings towards the mother - people don't know about them.
There are those that theorize that opposites, oddities or forbidden things (taboos) develops from a curiosity to a desire and from that desire to a craving. And when that cannot be achieved it becomes a frustration. And all those are driven by the human sex drive.
Some people say that's why guys hanging out with girls at young age end up having feelings for the opposites (guys they don't hang out with). A desire for feet, or any other thing that was forbidden for a child may get odd sexual tension later in life simply because it was seen as something exotic, exciting and forbidden.
That excitement leads to it becoming something sexual, something to lust for.

There are tons of theories ('cuz that's more or less all a psychologist can do) especially on peoples' relations, trust and  sexual preferences. But that's theories. There is some statistics to prove them. But most statistics is inconclusive once you dig a bit deeper to find out how it was executed.
Title: Re: Finally free of my job.
Post by: Archem on October 17, 2012, 11:26:59 PM
Is there a reason why you're such a dickhead?  Is it cause I'm an American or was it because you didn't like my little note on the Earth's magnetic field that I read about and learned about during Astronomy? 

I asked the question because I wasn't sure and someone would respectfully answer it, which Prpl kindly did. 
That's just Lucas for you. He's fine until he isn't, and then you mostly ignore him. At the risk of sounding sexist, it's like he's on his period.
Title: Re: Finally free of my job.
Post by: Bluhman on October 18, 2012, 01:03:46 AM
How did I derail my thread into the topic of homosexuality? Or does that come free of charge with any of my threads?

Yes, I believe that's the right idea.

Though I was referring more about the fact you started out talking about how you quit your job, and then immediately changed the topic to what game you should design next, but I guess the progression from fast food to homosexuality is a more natural evolution of discourse.
Title: Re: Finally free of my job.
Post by: Felix-0 on October 20, 2012, 04:15:25 PM
Yes, I believe that's the right idea.

Though I was referring more about the fact you started out talking about how you quit your job, and then immediately changed the topic to what game you should design next, but I guess the progression from fast food to homosexuality is a more natural evolution of discourse.

. -.;
Title: Re: Finally free of my job.
Post by: Archem on October 20, 2012, 05:49:10 PM
This is clearly why you still come to Charas.
Title: Re: Finally free of my job.
Post by: drenrin2120 on October 20, 2012, 06:31:17 PM

Cuz we're the only ones who will put up with your ****. <3
Title: Re: Finally free of my job.
Post by: Felix-0 on October 20, 2012, 06:41:38 PM
All I can say if, if I never need a place for a good laugh, you guys rarely fail to deliver. :3

<3
Title: Re: Finally free of my job.
Post by: Prpl_Mage on October 20, 2012, 06:42:39 PM
All I can say if, if I never need a place for a good laugh, you guys rarely fail to deliver. :3

<3

We are here for you bub.
Title: Re: Finally free of my job.
Post by: Archem on October 20, 2012, 07:00:37 PM
All I can say if, if I never need a place for a good laugh, you guys rarely fail to deliver. :3

<3
We need a sketch show. It would be awful.
Title: Re: Finally free of my job.
Post by: Felix-0 on October 20, 2012, 07:17:21 PM
Very awful, so yea. I do come to Charas a lot because a huge amount of memories and lifetime can be traced to charas, well back to it.

It's a rather strange nostalgic feeling I get from time to time when I log in and I remember past memories when me and my friend used to get on charas a lot, and make and upload resources.
Title: Re: Finally free of my job.
Post by: SaiKar on October 20, 2012, 11:33:09 PM
Indeed. I found myself running on nostalgia for years. Then I got fired unceremoniously and all those good memories sort of got converted to bad ones. Welp.
Title: Re: Finally free of my job.
Post by: Archem on October 20, 2012, 11:50:47 PM
And the bitching resumes...
Title: Re: Finally free of my job.
Post by: SaiKar on October 21, 2012, 12:01:00 AM
I prefer to think it never really stops; it just takes naps.
Title: Re: Finally free of my job.
Post by: Felix-0 on October 21, 2012, 12:16:36 AM
can it take a dirt nap? C:
Title: Re: Finally free of my job.
Post by: Archem on October 21, 2012, 12:25:41 AM
I can provide mud pillows.
Title: Re: Finally free of my job.
Post by: SaiKar on October 21, 2012, 12:48:08 AM
In other news, my bold plan of not changing my avatar *this year* seems to be slowly paying off as it becomes seasonal again.
Title: Re: Finally free of my job.
Post by: Felix-0 on October 21, 2012, 01:18:31 AM
I wish my Minecraft thread got more attention, instead of this battleground. > w>
Title: Re: Finally free of my job.
Post by: Archem on October 21, 2012, 02:11:17 AM
You need to inject some drama into that, then. I suggest a penis and Swastika texture pack to get people talking.
Title: Re: Finally free of my job.
Post by: Cerebus on October 21, 2012, 02:42:44 AM
Everyone loves drama, though, as long as they are not directly affected by it.
Title: Re: Finally free of my job.
Post by: SaiKar on October 21, 2012, 02:52:04 AM
I'm just not that interested in Minecraft. Played a multiplayer creative server, but it was basically playing single player since nobody ever toured around.
Title: Re: Finally free of my job.
Post by: Archem on October 21, 2012, 03:05:06 AM
It's best to play survival with friends. Creative with friends is fun, too, but survival makes you actually interact with each other instead of building and chatting.
Title: Re: Finally free of my job.
Post by: Cerebus on October 21, 2012, 03:49:04 AM
Survival is fun with friends indeed. Used to play a bit with my brother and friends. We helped each other with weapons and armour, built stuff together. We'd have our own quarter and stuff. Was pretty nice.
Title: Re: Finally free of my job.
Post by: Felix-0 on October 21, 2012, 05:01:36 AM
More so ABOUT my texture pack, I put some mass work into recent update.