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Title: Xbox One
Post by: Dr. Ace on May 21, 2013, 06:40:51 PM
Ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha... [continued laughter]
Title: Re: Xbox One
Post by: daoman89 on May 21, 2013, 06:56:50 PM
Didn't it only have like Halo and Fable or some **** and then all the other games were on ps2?
Title: Re: Xbox One
Post by: Archem on May 21, 2013, 07:03:53 PM
That's the name of the new Xbox. It's pretty stupid. As a gaming machine, it's ok, maybe. They're pushing the entertainment box idea where it's your everything player instead of just a game machine, and it's not really catching my interest. The PS4 is a bit more gaming-centric, but it's also not really all that impressive. They're pretty gosh darn similar (and both mostly unimpressive), but let's see how the fanboys play this out.

The next gen of consoles is looking dull. I guess I'm glad I already have a PC and can save money otherwise wasted on playing the next Call of Duty with Smartglass and Kinect or something.
Title: Re: Xbox One
Post by: Dr. Ace on May 21, 2013, 07:10:55 PM
Didn't it only have like Halo and Fable or some **** and then all the other games were on ps2?

Not even Halo or Fable so far, just Forze, sport games, a bunch of unannounced exclusives (Kinectanimals 2 anyone?), and multiplatform Call of Duty.

That's the name of the new Xbox. It's pretty stupid. As a gaming machine, it's ok, maybe. They're pushing the entertainment box idea where it's your everything player instead of just a game machine, and it's not really catching my interest. The PS4 is a bit more gaming-centric, but it's also not really all that impressive. They're pretty gosh darn similar (and both mostly unimpressive), but let's see how the fanboys play this out.

The next gen of consoles is looking dull. I guess I'm glad I already have a PC and can save money otherwise wasted on playing the next Call of Duty with Smartglass and Kinect or something.

I can't say it's even ok as a gaming machine, I sure as hell wasn't presented as one. It's an entertainment machine, a tv streamer for what I saw. I'm not a big fan of the share function of the PS4 but at least the new features from Sony are aimed at actual gamers. So far, with Wii U already three strikes out for me, I'm putting my money on Sony and getting a PS4 in the future. Till then I'm happy with my old consoles and PC.
Title: Re: Xbox One
Post by: DragonBlaze on May 21, 2013, 07:11:46 PM
Meh, it looks like just the xbox 360 with better specs. It's nice that both the xbox one and ps4 are switching to x86 processors, which makes it easier for game developers to develop games and easier for them to port their games to other platforms.

PC gaming is where it's at. Though if the One or PS4 is compatible with the Oculus Rift, I may have to take a second look at them.
Title: Re: Xbox One
Post by: daoman89 on May 21, 2013, 07:14:12 PM
Wow, see, I assumed you were talking about the first Xbox with Xbox One... 

Why have you given Nintendo 3 strikes?
Title: Re: Xbox One
Post by: Dr. Ace on May 21, 2013, 07:19:01 PM
Wow, see, I assumed you were talking about the first Xbox with Xbox One... 

Why have you given Nintendo 3 strikes?

Tablet controller, strike one.
Uninteresting / rehashing / remaking / non-existing games, strike two.
Comparable to last gen consoles, strike three.

The name Wii U was the overkill strike four.
Title: Re: Xbox One
Post by: SaiKar on May 21, 2013, 08:19:51 PM
Easier and easier to kiss console gaming goodbye forever.
Title: Re: Xbox One
Post by: fruckert on May 21, 2013, 08:55:57 PM
What I've heard on Twitter about the Xbox One is hilarious.
I mean, jesus, what a trainwreck.

Honestly, the only current-gen console that I want is an Ouya, and that's mainly so I can screw around with it.
Title: Re: Xbox One
Post by: DragonBlaze on May 21, 2013, 09:12:17 PM
So here's a question for you guys, what do you really want in a console that the One, PS4, or Wii U don't offer?
Title: Re: Xbox One
Post by: Bluhman on May 21, 2013, 09:18:54 PM
Games.

In all seriousness, it's the best VCR I've ever seen. Can it play a game I have any interest in, though?
Title: Re: Xbox One
Post by: daoman89 on May 21, 2013, 09:30:58 PM
Tablet controller, strike one.
Uninteresting / rehashing / remaking / non-existing games, strike two.
Comparable to last gen consoles, strike three.

The name Wii U was the overkill strike four.

I think the tablet controller is great, very handy.  Not everyone likes it though, it's a matter of opinion. 

Yea, not much games YET.  They'll reveal some soon.  I'm all for the LoZ:WW rerelease though.  Just give it time.

True, but it's still more powerful (according to Nintendo), but it brought something new, which is typical of Nintendo.  And I agree with the name, they could've gone with Revolution or something catchier.

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I don't like the whole strong focus on social networking.  I wanna play my damn games without **** being posted everywhere.  I mean Miiverse is fine cause it's its own thing, but I'd hate it to be focused on what I'm doing and sharing crap.  That's not important.
Title: Re: Xbox One
Post by: SaiKar on May 21, 2013, 09:35:10 PM
So here's a question for you guys, what do you really want in a console that the One, PS4, or Wii U don't offer?
I think the easiest way to sum it all up is "basically everything that Steam does"
Title: Re: Xbox One
Post by: Prpl_Mage on May 21, 2013, 10:20:55 PM
So here's a question for you guys, what do you really want in a console that the One, PS4, or Wii U don't offer?

I just want a console that can push games, If I had the choice I would rather see more games produced for the old consoles than new consoles with no games. What excites me about consoles are not the specs, the graphics, the internet capability, online store, touchy controls and stuff like that. It's the games and most of all, multiplayer games that interest me.
Sure, a PC can excel in pretty much any department, especially thanks to steam (just bought deus ex human rev for 4,9€), but I can't invite my friends over to cram around my computer to play worms anymore. A console for me = sit in a couch with some friends, some drinks and play the **** out of some game while shouting profanity at each other and remarking the heftiness of their maternity figures.
Title: Re: Xbox One
Post by: Dr. Ace on May 21, 2013, 11:17:00 PM
So here's a question for you guys, what do you really want in a console that the One, PS4, or Wii U don't offer?

I want a shitload games preferably, but from what I heard a lot of devs are extremely happy with the easiness of PS4 development so I'm expecting a bunch of games there. Also Sony's announcement to stroll from FPS as main genre sounds interesting.

I think the tablet controller is great, very handy.  Not everyone likes it though, it's a matter of opinion. 

True, but it's still more powerful (according to Nintendo), but it brought something new, which is typical of Nintendo.  And I agree with the name, they could've gone with Revolution or something catchier.

I have yet to see a game that utilises the tablet in a non-gimmicky way, and actually improves or invents a new way to play a game useful. Until I see that, I'm not convinced of anything "new", tablet gaming has been around for a while.

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Yea, not much games YET.  They'll reveal some soon.  I'm all for the LoZ:WW rerelease though.  Just give it time.

Yet is too uncertain. There are games coming, fine. But until I see them, I don't have a reason yet. As for the Wind Waker, I already own it on the Gamecube.
Title: Re: Xbox One
Post by: daoman89 on May 21, 2013, 11:30:01 PM
Monster Hunter 3 Ultimate uses it well.  It acts as the controller and main communication for online with its microphone.  It also has better shortcuts for menus and whatnot. 

I think everyone can agree that the games are the most important things on any console. 
Title: Re: Xbox One
Post by: DragonBlaze on May 22, 2013, 01:37:21 AM
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I think everyone can agree that the games are the most important things on any console.

Very true.

While the Xbox One announcement didn't cover too much in terms of games, E3 is coming up in a few weeks. I'm really excited to see the new games coming out for the PS4 and Xbox One (as well as for the PC of course).
Title: Re: Xbox One
Post by: Razor on May 22, 2013, 09:47:13 AM
Why do they call it the Xbox One?
[spoiler]When you see it, you turn one pi radian and walk away[/spoiler]
Title: Re: Xbox One
Post by: Dr. Ace on May 22, 2013, 10:30:23 AM
Why do they call it the Xbox One?
[spoiler]When you see it, you turn one pi radian and walk away[/spoiler]

Why do they call it the Xbox One?
[spoiler]Because only One person is excited for it.[/spoiler]
Title: Re: Xbox One
Post by: Momeka on May 22, 2013, 11:14:40 AM
Xbox One Reveal 2013 Highlights (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KbWgUO-Rqcw#ws)
Title: Re: Xbox One
Post by: daoman89 on May 22, 2013, 03:45:27 PM
I hate to be the one to say this, but Halo isn't good enough to have a tv series.

Xbox One

[spoiler]Your one way ticket to boredom. Play by yourself, watch tv by yourself, watch sports by yourself, talk to yourself. Voice commands make it seem like someone is there with you when you're the only one in the house. Xbox One, if you're single now... Get used to it. Who says two is better than one!? Not xbox! $799.99!![/spoiler]
Title: Re: Xbox One
Post by: Archem on May 22, 2013, 04:43:02 PM
I might disagree, but that might be because I really got into the lore. Read the novels and everything.

Though I should point out that, Spielberg or not, I have little faith in a quality production being made.
Title: Re: Xbox One
Post by: daoman89 on May 22, 2013, 06:10:23 PM
Maybe the future is all game franchises becoming tv series.  Won't that be like, the greatest thing ever!?
Title: Re: Xbox One
Post by: Archem on May 22, 2013, 06:42:40 PM
Someone's going all slippery-slope on us.
Title: Re: Xbox One
Post by: fruckert on May 22, 2013, 07:47:45 PM
Though I should point out that, Spielberg or not, I have little faith in a quality production being made.
There's a movie floating around on Netflix that was surprisingly decent.
I mean, it's not GOOD, but it was way better than the Uwe Boll-esque schlock that I was expecting.
Title: Re: Xbox One
Post by: Razor on May 23, 2013, 04:06:57 PM
I think Jim Sterling (http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/jimquisition/7358-Xbox-One-out-of-Ten) covers it all pretty well.
All the bad bits, at least. Always on Kinect? Changing the target audience from "people who want to play games" to "people who want unnecessary accessories for the television"?
Title: Re: Xbox One
Post by: daoman89 on May 23, 2013, 06:16:48 PM
Maybe they'll have a voice command controller. "Xbox, B button!! B!!!  B GODDAMMIT!!" If someone talks they'll ruin your game lol.  But seriously, I don't think systems should make people any more lazier than they already are.  Oh how exercising feels soooo good :).
Title: Re: Xbox One
Post by: Archem on May 23, 2013, 10:09:55 PM
Oh how exercising feels soooo good :).
You know, unless you're fat and out of shape. Then exercise feels like hell.
Title: Re: Xbox One
Post by: daoman89 on May 23, 2013, 10:25:49 PM
You know, unless you're fat and out of shape. Then exercise feels like hell.

That's because it's testing you.  It wants to see if you're capable of dealing with the pain!  If you can survive the first month, then you'll be able to hit the gym without dying.
Title: Re: Xbox One
Post by: Archem on May 23, 2013, 10:27:27 PM
I think I'll save my vacation in Hell for when I die and end up there by virtue of being a supreme sinner, thanks.
Title: Re: Xbox One
Post by: daoman89 on May 23, 2013, 10:39:59 PM
You're talking to a gym obsessed weight-lifter so you understand my encouragement lol
Title: Re: Xbox One
Post by: Archem on May 23, 2013, 11:03:25 PM
You're talking to a fat-*** nerd, so you understand my reluctance.
Title: Re: Xbox One
Post by: daoman89 on May 23, 2013, 11:22:05 PM
Lol i doubt you're as fat as you are claiming to be.
Title: Re: Xbox One
Post by: Archem on May 24, 2013, 01:28:33 AM
Maybe. But I'm lazy too, so you know how it is.
Title: Re: Xbox One
Post by: daoman89 on May 25, 2013, 01:58:43 AM
How does everyone feel about Xbone's used game policy and whatnot?  I don't care because I wasn't getting one in the first place, just curious on your thoughts.
Title: Re: Xbox One
Post by: Archem on May 25, 2013, 02:03:03 AM
Well, I'm not in favor of it.
Title: Re: Xbox One
Post by: Meiscool on May 25, 2013, 02:03:33 AM
I heard you can watch TV on it.
Title: Re: Xbox One
Post by: daoman89 on May 25, 2013, 02:05:53 AM
I heard you can watch TV on it.

Dude, me too!  I always wanted an expensive remote control!
Title: Re: Xbox One
Post by: oooog on May 25, 2013, 02:30:38 AM
TV, TV, TV, TV, Television, TV, TV, TV, TV, TV, TV, TV, TV, TV, Live Action Halo TV series, TV, TV, Sports, Sports, Sports, Sports, Sports, TV, Sports, Sports, Sports, Call of Duty, Call of Duty, Call of Duty, Call of Duty, Call of Duty, Call of Duty, Call of Duty, Dog, Call of Duty, Call of Duty, Call of Duty, Xbox One.

Xbox One is officially for bro gamers, and generally has features only appealing to the American consumers, what with it's obsession with Football and Netflix, both of which if I understand correctly are not that popular or available outside of our country.  I'm not even doing to delve into the whole always online, no used games, and forced Kinect fiasco.  They're trying so hard to make themselves a living room staple that they seem to have forgotten their core audience are gamers who like have products or services that already go what they are trying to do, or simply do not care.  Microsoft has been on a steady decline for me since their last exclusive title, Fable, began sucking.

It is amazing how they've not only managed to alienate me further from them, but have pissed off so many of their diehard fans.  It's quite normal for people to point the finger at Nintendo or Sony, but it is astounding how much Microsoft seems to have botched this one.  You may feel free to add me to your Wii U or PS4 (a few years down the line when the inevitable price cut slim model is released) friend lists whenever.
Title: Re: Xbox One
Post by: daoman89 on May 25, 2013, 02:37:35 AM
What country are you from?  And you are so right about us Americans lol
Title: Re: Xbox One
Post by: Cerebus on May 25, 2013, 03:12:09 AM
I'll stick to my 3DS and laptop for now. As of yet, I have no interest in any of the next gen consoles.
I'm not going to pay several hundred of dollars for features I give no **** about.
Title: Re: Xbox One
Post by: Dr. Ace on May 25, 2013, 08:46:19 AM
I'm still hoping for the best with the PS4, but till then I'm perfectly fine with my laptop and older consoles as well. Hell, I've been getting more and more games I wanted to play last year (The Witcher 2, Borderlands 2, Metro Last Light should arrive soon, to name a few) on the PC either way.
Title: Re: Xbox One
Post by: Prpl_Mage on May 25, 2013, 10:56:13 AM
Dude, me too!  I always wanted an expensive remote control!

I find it funny that the Wii U gamepad actually can function as a TV remote, I simply power it up and it powers up my TV and Wii U at the same time. Convenient.

Also, it had a wiiware netflix when I started it, and i can watch the stuff on the gamepad if I understood it correctly, leaving the actual TV to anyone else who wants to watch tv.

Title: Re: Xbox One
Post by: Cerebus on May 25, 2013, 11:26:41 AM
leaving the actual TV to anyone else who wants to watch tv.

A.K.A someone with an Xbox One.
Title: Re: Xbox One
Post by: daoman89 on May 25, 2013, 03:14:06 PM
Yes, but the gamepad has a touch screen u play games on. Xbox just has a tv lol. Additions work if done right.
Title: Re: Xbox One
Post by: oooog on May 26, 2013, 01:02:33 AM
What country are you from?  And you are so right about us Americans lol

I am an American, believe it or not.  But I'm also an American who isn't really into our football.  Not really in to any sport really, save tennis.

I think it is fair to say that I am a Nintendo fanboy with a fondness for Sony as well.  Let's examine this.

I was a day one adopter of Wii-U, because I have faith in their products.  I purchased the 3DS at launch, and although I was slighted by the initial false promises (or more accurately the vague definition of launch window), my 3DS now has 17 titles that are all worth it, with off the top of my head 5 more in the very near future.  The Wii-U was also a day one purchase, but this was mainly due to the fact that I remember how things went with the Wii initially and how difficult it was for people in my area to get one at a reasonable price.  As it stands, I only have 4 games for it, but I am eagerly awaking TW101, Pikmin 3, and Wind Waker HD.  Not to mention I have high hopes a new Smash Bros. is on the horizon.  And let's not forget that obscure Fire Emblem x SMT that came out of left field a few months back.

Regarding Sony, I'm not as loyal.  I purchased both a PSP and a PS3 several years down the line after the slim models came out, and I now have a fairly respectable collection for both systems.  However, purchasing them at launch would have been a mistake, and I feel the same with the PS4.  Although I am interested in the PS4 more-so than the Xbox One, I am positive it will be packaged with a very hefty pricetag, and almost nothing worthwhile to play for several months, if not years.  At the moment, the only thing that I know of that is exclusive for the PS4 that interests me is the Deep Down demo shown by Capcom.  If this proves to be a Dragon's Dogma successor, you can certainly count on me to be in.  I loved this game so much I would consider purchasing the system at launch if DD released fairly close to it.  The only other title that comes to mind that would entice me to purchase the system would be a Naughty Dog Crash Bandicoot.  Since neither one of these criteria are likely to be met, I think I will stick with the Wii-U for the time being.

Now, the system of the hour, the Xbox One.  Let's examine my history of the Xbox.  I liked Fable, and sort of Halo.  Let's look at the 360.  They butchered the Fable series.  Twice.  And we are done.  The problem lies with the fact that every good game that has enticed me that has come out on an Xbox, has also likely come out on a Playstation or PC.  Comparing XBL and PSN, PSN is simply vastly superior for me.  One reason.  It is free!  You can purchase PSN +, sure, but the basic package is free and offers everything XBL does.  I've seen no difference between connections and have had absolutely not lag differences on either one, so why should I pay for a service when another system offers the exact same thing, with pretty much the same games, for free?

I will not deny that perhaps I am looking for reasons to hate the new system.  But based on what has been presented, I see no redeeming quality for it as it stands.  Maybe someday in the future something will come along and sway me, but as it stands, it would seem Microsoft is actively pushing me away from their system.  And I'm okay with that.  I can keep my $600 for something else after all, and take the extra time to put down one remote for my TV to pick up the other one for my cable box.
Title: Re: Xbox One
Post by: daoman89 on May 26, 2013, 02:05:42 AM
I am also looking forward to LoZ:WW.  Whether or not they're going to add dungeons and content that was taken out before due to time constraints, I'm still gonna get it since it is my favorite zelda.  Nintendo would get mad respect points from me if they listen to the fans' request for the additional things.  I like to think of the Wii U as a super DS due to the extra screen, except I have a lot more freedom between the two screens lol. 

And I don't wanna pay for ****ing online play.  Not a fan of paying extra to fully enjoy your game.  MH3U has free online play and it is great.  It rarely lags and is a lot of fun and you have the built in microphone and keyboard.  Mariokart is free online, SSBB (tho not great) has free online, The Last Story free, Metroid Prime Hunters free, pokemon free, etc etc etc etc.

I'm not an xbox hater, but I can confidently say it is the worst console company.
Title: Re: Xbox One
Post by: Apex on June 01, 2013, 02:33:08 AM
Xbox take one look at it turn 360 degrees and walk away.

Also, PC gaming master race.
Title: Re: Xbox One
Post by: DragonBlaze on June 01, 2013, 03:49:32 AM
So it sounds like people don't like the Xbox because of the name and because it also has a focus of being an overall entertainment system on top of a gaming system, but has xbox's new platform hindered games or game makers at all? From what I've seen it hasn't... Why all the hate before the release or before all of the games are announced? The point of a gaming platform is the games, so it's hard to judge a system shortly after it's announced and we have no idea what games ate to come. So what if it has features you don't want to use? Then don't use them.

I intend to see what the Xbox one has to offer after it's released to judge it. None of us know exactly what the next gen systems have to offer until they are actually offered. That being said, the new Xbox may really suck, but we cant make that judgement with such limited information.
Title: Re: Xbox One
Post by: Meiscool on June 01, 2013, 04:56:59 AM
So what if it has features you don't want to use? Then don't use them.

That's just it, you HAVE to use the features.

The system won't work without an internet connection (even for single-player games). XBL is still subscription based though.
Used games/borrowing/renting are null and void without a fat pocket.
Kinetic MUST be connected and on in order for the system to function. The sensor must also be on and all times, though kinetic functions themselves can be turned off.
The whole "complete entertainment package" that they highlight so much involves you buying a separate cable box specifically made to hook up to the xbox (which I don't quite understand, seeing as you probably already have cable internet to get the thing to work in the first place). <- Iffy source information
Indie games now have to have more rights sold to Microsoft (vs what they are on present XBLA) and the process will be more complex.
Not backwards compatible with ANYTHING (games, headsets, etc).

Really, this system looks like a giant '**** you' to consumers.

Really, the biggest issue I have is with the kinetic having to be on at all times. I mean... it just makes no sense unless they wanted to spy on us or use the sensor to make sure too many people don't watch one movie at once or something. They could use the voice activation argument, but there is no reason to make the sensor required to be on at all times just for that.
Title: Re: Xbox One
Post by: Dr. Ace on June 01, 2013, 08:10:15 AM
So it sounds like people don't like the Xbox because of the name and because it also has a focus of being an overall entertainment system on top of a gaming system, but has xbox's new platform hindered games or game makers at all? From what I've seen it hasn't... Why all the hate before the release or before all of the games are announced? The point of a gaming platform is the games, so it's hard to judge a system shortly after it's announced and we have no idea what games ate to come. So what if it has features you don't want to use? Then don't use them.

I intend to see what the Xbox one has to offer after it's released to judge it. None of us know exactly what the next gen systems have to offer until they are actually offered. That being said, the new Xbox may really suck, but we cant make that judgement with such limited information.

1) I hate the name
2) I hate the fact that they're focussing all their console progress on watching television shows easier, while most people that already want that already have a device for that
3) I hate that even if that stuff might proof any use for me, that it'll most likely be locked for US only
4) I hate the fact they're trying to replace a remote control with voice commands while that'll only complicate things
5) I hate the forced Kinect
6) The always on Kinect, even when the console is off
7) The fact it can see in the dark
8) It can read my heartbeat
9) And that they'll use it for anything but good games (like Kinect 1.0)
10) The fact that the only games they announced were sports, sports, sports, sports and cawwadooty
11) The fact that they announced 15 exclusives with 8 new IPs but it'll robably be 12 Kinect games and 3 maybe worthwhile ones
12) That they try to be extra greedy and get money for used games.

I could go on and on and on, but it's more than just "we hate the name".
Title: Re: Xbox One
Post by: oooog on June 01, 2013, 02:02:20 PM
So it sounds like people don't like the Xbox because of the name and because it also has a focus of being an overall entertainment system on top of a gaming system, but has xbox's new platform hindered games or game makers at all? From what I've seen it hasn't... Why all the hate before the release or before all of the games are announced? The point of a gaming platform is the games, so it's hard to judge a system shortly after it's announced and we have no idea what games ate to come. So what if it has features you don't want to use? Then don't use them.

I intend to see what the Xbox one has to offer after it's released to judge it. None of us know exactly what the next gen systems have to offer until they are actually offered. That being said, the new Xbox may really suck, but we cant make that judgement with such limited information.

Take everything aside that they presented, trying to force their way to the center of your living room, making it the one extension for you TV that you'll need, and focus on what was shown as a gaming console.

As previously stated, they seem to be gearing towards bro gamers.  Sure, there may be other games in the works but they only opted to show were Call of Duty, Forza Motorsports, a plethora of EA sports, and some obscure title that we know nothing about aside that it looked to be some sort of Heavy Rain rip-off (That's just the vibe I got.)  Sure there are other games announced unofficially (Assassin's Creed IV, Watch Dogs, Destiny), but these games can be found on the other systems, much like the announced games could be.  When the Wii U and PS4 launched, they showed a wide variety of different games spanning across genres.  Microsoft instead opted to show only the games that interest their core audience, which is a valid business tactic sure, but it basically alienated everyone else.  It's like what many unflinchingly believe Nintendo has done with casual gamers, except the difference is that Microsoft actually did cater exclusively to one demographic.

On almost every other occasion, I have also opted to take the wait and see approach, because I am certain the end result will not be as bad as everyone assumes.  However, the uproar over this among the gaming community is most certainly justifiable, and it will take a hell of a lot of work on Microsoft's side to win back these supporters, which just doesn't seem likely.
Title: Re: Xbox One
Post by: fruckert on June 01, 2013, 08:09:52 PM
As an aside, sometimes I feel like the only person who thinks that the Kinect ISN'T for gaming.
The most impressive things that I've seen done with it are experiments in non-gaming related technology. The best example that comes to mind is the medical industry using it to teach surgeons. Or so I've heard.
Any time people do make a game out of it, it's wildly flailing around in a living room that's undoubtedly too small. And, occasionally, making you violently nauseous.

So yeah, I'm not excited about the xbone at all.
There's WAY too many problems with it technically (DRM mostly), and there wasn't a single thing that appealed to me.

Also also, they apparently ****ing hate indie games, which is a huge turnoff for me.

Sony's kind of stealing my heart, though.
Even if the concept of a dedicated social networking button on the controller is unceasingly stupid.
Title: Re: Xbox One
Post by: daoman89 on June 03, 2013, 12:51:06 AM
I was never gonna get an xbox ever so i don't really care about its failure or success.  I'm also sick of these console wars, like seriously, who gives a ****?  Just play the games you like and shut the hell up.  You don't need to hate on other games by coming at people who enjoy them etc etc.  Common statements and opinions are... "Xbox is better" and it's like ok, good for it.  Halo is ok and I'm sure bioshock and gear wars are really good too, but so what.  Most of their good games is on Ps3 too aren't they?  Anyways, the console war crap is just ridiculous and I'm glad Nintendo doesn't give a **** about it. 

It's a shame that a lot of people get offended when someone says they don't like a game they like lol
Title: Re: Xbox One
Post by: Prpl_Mage on June 03, 2013, 05:16:52 AM
It's human pack nature, same psychology that is applied to cults and sports. You strengthen the sense of "us" by differentiating yourselves from "them". It's easier to prove how bad everything else is than convincing people how great your stuff is. Especially in times when your console/cult/team is in a bad place, shouting how great and glorious your stuff is when sales are bad or when the world didn't ended doesn't work as well as pointing out that there is still something worse out there.

Just sayin
Title: Re: Xbox One
Post by: Dr. Ace on June 03, 2013, 08:01:43 AM
Anyways, the console war crap is just ridiculous and I'm glad Nintendo doesn't give a **** about it. 

You do know how stupid you sound? Nintendo and Sega started this.
Title: Re: Xbox One
Post by: fruckert on June 03, 2013, 08:41:54 AM
Wasn't Sega the one who started the console war campaign idea?
I know Nintendo did it as well, but I'm pretty sure that Sega did what Nintendon't first.
Title: Re: Xbox One
Post by: Dr. Ace on June 03, 2013, 09:53:39 AM
Takes two to start a war.
Title: Re: Xbox One
Post by: daoman89 on June 03, 2013, 03:35:16 PM
True, but i dont hear anything about those two goin at it today, just microsoft and sony.  The occasional vita and 3ds, mostly about where monster hunter should be due to graphics.  There's more but i don't look it up.  Just those random commenters and the huge arguments that result in grammar comebacks. Ever see those on youtube or other popular sites? Some are hilarious.

Some guy i was listening to yesterday while i was measuring things was talking about how it's hard for Nintendo to tell/explain why the gamepad can provide different ways to play.  He said people have to use it themselves, which is what he and his friends did before they bought it. It's good that their bringing e3 demos to some best buys for ppl to try.

Sucks for the guy that paid a million dollars for an end world bomb shelter type place. I don't think that would protect you from a giant asteroid, super volcano or in over 4.5 billion years, or the sun destroying the Earth.

Let's see if xbox can wow their fans at e3. Then someone can post some highlights cause i won't be watching it :)
Title: Re: Xbox One
Post by: DragonBlaze on June 04, 2013, 12:22:52 AM
That's just it, you HAVE to use the features.

The system won't work without an internet connection (even for single-player games). XBL is still subscription based though.
Used games/borrowing/renting are null and void without a fat pocket.

Your xbox will have to connect to the internet once every 24 hours to verify you own a legit copy of the game. Xbox has confirmed that you won't need a xbox live gold membership (the one that cost money), and that registering used games won't cost money either. Requiring the xbox connects to the internet once a day isn't ideal, but it honestly does not make a difference to me.

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Kinetic MUST be connected and on in order for the system to function. The sensor must also be on and all times, though kinetic functions themselves can be turned off.

Really, the biggest issue I have is with the kinetic having to be on at all times. I mean... it just makes no sense unless they wanted to spy on us or use the sensor to make sure too many people don't watch one movie at once or something. They could use the voice activation argument, but there is no reason to make the sensor required to be on at all times just for that.

Wait! You need to plug in a device that comes with the xbox in order for it to run? The monstrosity!

I do agree that I don't like xbox's attitude towards indie games, but then again, I don't buy a system for indie games since most of the best indie games are on the pc anyway.


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As previously stated, they seem to be gearing towards bro gamers.  Sure, there may be other games in the works but they only opted to show were Call of Duty, Forza Motorsports, a plethora of EA sports, and some obscure title that we know nothing about aside that it looked to be some sort of Heavy Rain rip-off (That's just the vibe I got.)  Sure there are other games announced unofficially (Assassin's Creed IV, Watch Dogs, Destiny), but these games can be found on the other systems, much like the announced games could be.  When the Wii U and PS4 launched, they showed a wide variety of different games spanning across genres.  Microsoft instead opted to show only the games that interest their core audience, which is a valid business tactic sure, but it basically alienated everyone else.  It's like what many unflinchingly believe Nintendo has done with casual gamers, except the difference is that Microsoft actually did cater exclusively to one demographic.

Xbox stated they would span their announcement into the E3 convention next week. The actual system doesn't come out until the end of the year, I'm sure a lot more games will be announced by then, maybe not for the launch, but the small amount of games that a system has on launch date does not define a system.


Just to be clear here, I'm not really excited over the Xbox One either, but I see a lot of hate over some pretty frivolous things :p
Title: Re: Xbox One
Post by: daoman89 on June 04, 2013, 01:12:33 AM
Just to be clear here, I'm not really excited over the Xbox One either, but I see a lot of hate over some pretty frivolous things :p

Hate over frivolous things is very common on the internet.  Seems like a lot of people can speak out more because nobody knows who the hell they are.  Lots of racism on youtube.  Lot of religious people telling people they're going to Hell on scientific news or some crap, kinda funny actually.

I'm sure the xbox one will have some success.
Title: Re: Xbox One
Post by: SaiKar on June 04, 2013, 02:38:06 AM
Oh it'll be a huge success. Because bitching about the types of things in this topic will look pretty trivial compared to the want for the next Madden or Halo or whatever game.
Title: Re: Xbox One
Post by: Meiscool on June 04, 2013, 02:59:44 AM
Your xbox will have to connect to the internet once every 24 hours to verify you own a legit copy of the game. Xbox has confirmed that you won't need a xbox live gold membership (the one that cost money), and that registering used games won't cost money either. Requiring the xbox connects to the internet once a day isn't ideal, but it honestly does not make a difference to me.

Wait! You need to plug in a device that comes with the xbox in order for it to run? The monstrosity!

I do agree that I don't like xbox's attitude towards indie games, but then again, I don't buy a system for indie games since most of the best indie games are on the pc anyway.

Xbox stated they would span their announcement into the E3 convention next week. The actual system doesn't come out until the end of the year, I'm sure a lot more games will be announced by then, maybe not for the launch, but the small amount of games that a system has on launch date does not define a system.

Just to be clear here, I'm not really excited over the Xbox One either, but I see a lot of hate over some pretty frivolous things :p


1) That's great for you, but it is still an annoyance to a lot of consumers. Lack of cost for used games relies on the original owner of the game deactivating the game, which of course fine establishments like gamestop will do for them. Small used game stores? Garage sales? Just additional hassle.
2) Even the wii will still function without its sensor. No other mainstream gaming device requires you to have an additional device in an always active state to function.
3) That's great for you, but XBLA is one of the XBox's strong points (compared to PSN), and the potential lack of original content is a turn off. Not to mention, that as a game programmer yourself....
4) I agree here.
5) The system itself is a frivolous piece of merchandise, no?
Title: Re: Xbox One
Post by: DragonBlaze on June 04, 2013, 08:54:54 PM
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1) That's great for you, but it is still an annoyance to a lot of consumers. Lack of cost for used games relies on the original owner of the game deactivating the game, which of course fine establishments like gamestop will do for them. Small used game stores? Garage sales? Just additional hassle.

The article I read stated that the original owner isn't required to unregister the game, when the new owner registeres the game for free, it will automatically unregister the game from the original owner. This pretty much is just a security measure to prevent people from hacking their xbox to play pirated/burned games. It is kinda disappointing considering I hacked almost every system I've owned, but the AAA gaming industry is doing very poorly these days, so I understand.

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3) That's great for you, but XBLA is one of the XBox's strong points (compared to PSN), and the potential lack of original content is a turn off. Not to mention, that as a game programmer yourself....

Yeah that is disappointing... I don't get xbox here, they're pretty bipolar when it comes to indie game development. They create XNA game studios that lets you create indie xbox games very easily, so easily in fact that any serious arcade or indie game won't use it because it doesn't have many advanced capabilities and they highly abstract everything, so it's not the fastest. But then in order to even test your game on YOUR OWN xbox, they require that you pay them $100 for a developer license, which seems to indicate that they are trying to keep away the developers using XNA away.  Back when I started making games, there was no sense that you could port and share your indie game with anyone. It really wasn't until the most recent generation of systems that this was even possible because developing console games is usually much more difficult than PC games. Even AAA games can spend twice as much time or money in order to make their game work on a console. Because of this, I think xbox is simply catering only to the 'high profile' indie games that have a real budget and development teams to avoid flooding the indie game market with thousands of crap games that no one ever downloads or plays.