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Title: The new Layout: what do you think?
Post by: Alex on May 02, 2004, 09:24:31 PM: So i finally did some experiments on Charas pages.
The generators are still "old looking", right now.

I've changed some colors, modified a bit the first page layout and created a new simple logo (all made with Charas generated charasets!)

So, what do you think if it?
Do you like it? Or will you hate me for the rest of your lifes?
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Post by: sk8rman on May 02, 2004, 09:30:36 PM: I LOVE IT!!!!!!

ok, its good.
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Post by: martyman315 on May 02, 2004, 09:39:38 PM: Woah.

I leave for a minute, and BAM! Awesome new layout in my face. :o
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Post by: FFL2and3rocks on May 02, 2004, 10:24:31 PM: Meh.
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Post by: sk8rman on May 02, 2004, 10:43:04 PM: u dont like it? i left to get a soda and when i came back, i couldn't find the forum! but i did.
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Post by: Ruler of the Dark on May 03, 2004, 12:21:01 AM: :D :D :D I like it! Not so plain anymore!
Good job. Once the generators look like this too, maybe you could make the forums look new and funky too!
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Post by: GhostClown on May 03, 2004, 12:52:08 AM: I think it looks good too, blue is alot easier on my eyes lol.
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Post by: Pedro Lion on May 03, 2004, 01:21:22 AM: yeah, i didnt like that white background, the new layout is [GLOW]great[/GLOW]! ;)
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Post by: moiledzep on May 03, 2004, 05:26:37 PM: Yeah, I think this is a great change, too, but maybe a black background could be beating for the eyes...LOL
No, seriousely, this is a great idea to change the old layout
The reorganisation is great, too, Great Work Alex!!!
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Post by: X-F3R on May 03, 2004, 07:26:27 PM: =.="

i think the colors are not erm.. the chemistry doesn't work well IMO (except the whites)

you made it look like the forums, that's for sure. why not re-color the border colors? :D i donno.. there's no feeling when i look at it IMO..

oh well.. you can ignore my opinions *;)
-X
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Post by: GaryCXJk on May 03, 2004, 08:21:24 PM: This means I'll have to change one "All Your Game" screenshot.
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Post by: Red Giant on May 03, 2004, 08:38:12 PM: 'S okay. The logo is a plus.
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Post by: Kijuki_Magazaki on May 03, 2004, 08:56:12 PM: It looks good. I like it!
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Post by: kAiRoU on May 03, 2004, 09:00:23 PM: GREAT! i was gona tell you on AIM, but the conection broke.
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Post by: SMB on May 04, 2004, 06:26:41 AM: Ok, not joking ok?
If this is a first experiment it's OK, but non the definitive layout I hope!
Writings aren't readeble well, the generators aren't visible, no no...
I don't like it, sorry Alex...
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Post by: Alex on May 04, 2004, 11:19:50 AM: Of course it's just a first experient!
I am here to ask you all experienced spriters to help me with colors :D

If you want to try to help, i have an idea...
Just download the forst charas page as HTML, and look in the top of the file: All colors are defined within the body and the style tags.
Actually, this is the part:
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.RED and .GREEN are not used.
Body links is that "gold" color of all the links
evidenced is the color of titles (as "Last 10 Forum discussions")
languages is the border color of flags

Saving it as HTML you may be able to change these values to look for a different combination.
When you have one you feel is good, just post here your modifyed body+style tags and a screenshot of the resulting page.
This way we could "vote" for proposed layouts faster ;)
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Post by: SaiKar on May 12, 2004, 07:14:26 AM: Alex, no offense, but I have to be honest with you here.

I think new the color scheme for the layout is terrible. The order of the links and stuff is fine, but the colors are completely off.
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Post by: Alex on May 12, 2004, 11:05:42 AM: Don't worry, this is exactly why i ask your opinions and help.
Have you any suggestion?
Title: Can I try?
Post by: X-F3R on May 12, 2004, 07:21:10 PM: well, this will be my first attempt to make a professional layout..

here, so far i've made a banner for you ;) i wanna totally change the layout and try to make this site as professional looking as it really is :P

this is my first shot so go easy on the comments of what i do/make, ok?

i plan to use a lot of tables.. lol.. this will all be in HTML so maybe you can convert the language to php.. :P

-X

[BTW, this is an update of what I posted earlier.. :D]
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Post by: SaiKar on May 12, 2004, 07:25:39 PM: I am pretty sure the "problem" color is the gold. The rest of the layout is striking similar to the forums, but the gold looks bad on the blue background. Same with that off-yellow banner color.

Perhaps you could try changing the colors to look more like the forum's. So, instead of gold and yellow, perhaps white, silver, or grey.
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Post by: Alex on May 12, 2004, 08:02:47 PM: Ok, let's try! What do you think of this?
Silver replaced gold, here:
http://charas-project.net/index2.php?lang=en

X:
Nice logo! Will wait for news, every layout proposal is welcome!
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Post by: X-F3R on May 12, 2004, 09:22:23 PM: hmmm.. after 2 hours of work, i'm done.. lol.. could've been less cuz i was chatting with a VIP but wtheck.. hehe

http://www.geocities.com/x_f3r_games/charas/layout.html

ok, here's how the layout will work. it'll be best viewed on a 800x600 resolution screen. the field where it says "wazzup" has to be an iFrame or else the thing will go mumbo jumbo + it'll be a waste of space even tho it's just a few kb.

i made it look alot like the forums but the navigation bar is not yet colored.. lol.. i've checked the source HTML from this forum but it's hard to find T_T

btw, it's meant for 800x600 cuz the width is 700 pixels. i wanted to resize it to 780 in width, but i'm too lazy :P

the image map is pretty buggy tho.. when you link the images, they split apart.. a disaster.. but i know alex has a solution cuz he knows CSS. :D

this was my first shot in making a professional layout and i made it in 2 hours :D

alex, i deserve a 500 MB hosting from u + unlimited bandwidth.. hahaha j/k

Comments on how to improve the layout is welcomed ;)

enjoy
-X
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Post by: Alex on May 12, 2004, 09:45:05 PM: Not bad!
Fast comments:

What about adding a "second" navbar somewhere else?
I mean: leaving the "Main", "Site" and "Last 10 Forum Discussions" on the left and try to place the last resources (and maybe also the resource count you can actually see on top-right in charas) somewhere else?
This will avoid a very long page, maybe.

Splitting a 700px table, we may have:
left TD: 150px
center TD: 400px
right TD: 150px

i guess 400px is fine for the news table (now the "base" is 320px, variable).

Comments?

P.S.: it's "charas-project.net", not "charas-project/net" :D
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Post by: X-F3R on May 13, 2004, 08:16:45 AM: correction :D it's now 480 in width! i've resized the banner and the image map, which still has the problem i don't know how to solve. when you link the images, they seperate. anyway, here's the link.

http://www.geocities.com/x_f3r_games/charas2/layout.html

i didn't delete the earlier one so you can compare. it's barely even 250 KB combined so it won't effect the storage in my Geocities account.

anyway, the "base" is an iFrame. why i chose iFrame? because it'll be harder to edit stuff when you want to.. i mean.. it's about 200 lines :P plus it's easier to navigate and saves time to those who have slow connections.

the updates and news area, i think there's no need to put any avatars of anything cuz Alex is the only one who updates stuff. and if you do put avatars, it'll look like my homepage! :P

http://www.geocities.com/x_f3r_games

enjoy!
-X

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with that layout, it's best to stay away from Gold, Grey and Red. I'm using all the colors this forum has that i could find. :D

tell me if you want the zip. i'll upload it so you can download it. ;)

oh yeah.. i got this terrible (in a good way) idea for the generators. it should also help save time for users with slow connections but the wait/load time will be a tad longer.

it will consist of multiple frames/iFrames tho, that's why the wait/load time will be a bit longer, but navigation will be better.

Example:

"Menu.html"

"Generator.html"

you get it? there will be a menu on the left of all the menu, aka, all the resources you can choose. the width will be 125 so there can be at least 2 and 1/4 resources visible, plus you can scroll to check out the resources. same for the others.

want to experiment it? :D
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Post by: Alex on May 13, 2004, 08:52:28 AM: Better not to use Iframes.
They're not compatible with many browsers, so...
Anyhow, editing is not a problem: with PHP i can include sections, writing them in separate files so it's easy to manage ;)

For example the top (which in your example is logo+generators+languages) is written in a file called header.php and included with one single line in every file.

About the top, we should remember that we have various languages: while writing text in different langs is simple, writing text in images is not (and heavyer for the server).
This problem touches all the text you've written inside images (top links, navigation and resources).
We should find a way to use just the background color and write the text as... text.

About the generator, i will think about it and reply better on sunday: now i'm leaving, i'll be back on saturday night.
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Post by: X-F3R on May 13, 2004, 03:43:42 PM: i've got a solution but it's not gonna be pretty.. that is to manipulate the tables tag..

you do know that tables can also have their own backgrounds. so we insert the image in the table, as a background, and just write texts in it. the letters can be changed easily. it's very effective but when i do it, it's pretty buggy.. i've just started experimenting with HTML a few days ago.

but using that method, i'll have to cut the picture into 3 sections and then use the table trick.. as for the image map, it could be easily modified.. we'll only need to link the texts.. problem is, some languages have more letters in one word.
Title: Double Post
Post by: X-F3R on May 13, 2004, 05:26:27 PM: oki doki.. it's done.

http://www.geocities.com/x_f3r_games/charas3/layout.html

you can change ANY text EXCEPT for the "-Charas-project.net" in the image map. now there's no more iFrame.

give me comments on how it looks, everyone :P

-X
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Post by: GhostClown on May 14, 2004, 03:53:47 AM: I found this site if its any help Web monkey (http://hotwired.lycos.com/webmonkey/reference/color_codes/)
Title: BIG BIG kick
Post by: carmen on June 28, 2004, 06:42:56 AM: Quote
Originally posted by X-F3R
oki doki.. it's done.

http://www.geocities.com/x_f3r_games/charas3/layout.html

you can change ANY text EXCEPT for the "-Charas-project.net" in the image map. now there's no more iFrame.

give me comments on how it looks, everyone :P

-X

okay I'm really sorry guys, But X asked me to kick this, and I think it's a good idea to as well. I like this layout alot more. What happend to it?
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Post by: Alex on June 28, 2004, 12:11:33 PM: I was working on it.
And now, implemented! ;)
Do you like it?
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Post by: carmen on June 28, 2004, 12:18:58 PM: YES! omg I love it! it makes me feel like i'm goign to a real site ^_^ great job, I hope the others like it just as much as I.
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Post by: woundedgoat on June 28, 2004, 01:18:19 PM: I agree. It looks nice. It's still simple and it's not laden down with images like a lot of sites seem to feel nessecary these days... And there's still no frames!
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Post by: carmen on June 28, 2004, 01:22:55 PM: lol, this has made me happy ^_^ I feel good everytime I go on the main page now ^_^ yay, page, it looks good and i'm sure X would be proud ^_-
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Post by: woundedgoat on June 28, 2004, 01:29:34 PM: heh... Caught me off guard personally. When I seen it I went "AH!" and almost dived behind my chair. I had come here for some other totally unrelated purpose but the radical change jolted it out of my memory. Now excuse me, I'm going to go gouge out my eyes because...

Actual purpose of this post: I just seen some newb post a bitmap. Is there any way to change the forum code to not allow uploading of bitmaps? Apparently large glaring red letters with flashing lights and sirens isn't enough for some people.
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Post by: Rpg_xerofl on June 28, 2004, 01:57:27 PM: THIS IS AWESOME

i like this new design alot i just thought the other was a little boring but you sure made it way better
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Post by: Alex on June 28, 2004, 02:34:35 PM: Quote
Originally posted by woundedgoat
heh... Caught me off guard personally. When I seen it I went "AH!" and almost dived behind my chair. I had come here for some other totally unrelated purpose but the radical change jolted it out of my memory. Now excuse me, I'm going to go gouge out my eyes because...

Actual purpose of this post: I just seen some newb post a bitmap. Is there any way to change the forum code to not allow uploading of bitmaps? Apparently large glaring red letters with flashing lights and sirens isn't enough for some people.

Well, i added an experimental code to block posting while attaching a file with BMP extension.
This is a temp solution, maybe in future i'll try somethng which analize file contesnts to be sure it really is (or not) a bitmap.
Please try to post a bitmap somewhere and let me know if it works.
And remeber to delete your post after testing ;)
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Post by: woundedgoat on June 28, 2004, 03:10:45 PM: it works!

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Your attachment seems to be a BMP file, which is HIGHLY FORBIDDEN!

Ha! HIGHLY FORBIDDEN! That's great.
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Post by: Paladyne on June 28, 2004, 03:18:07 PM: Err... Almost everything on the site and the forum are white!
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Post by: Red Giant on June 28, 2004, 03:25:04 PM: I like it!
Hey, is the uppermost banner supposed to represent us?
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Post by: Alex on June 28, 2004, 03:33:08 PM: Quote
Originally posted by Paladyne
Err... Almost everything on the site and the forum are white!

You mean you'd like it more colorful?
Just one question: what is needed to be readable is clearly readable to you or not?

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Originally posted by Red Giant
I like it!
Hey, is the uppermost banner supposed to represent us?

R U talking about Forum banner or Charas banner?
Anyhow:
If Forum banner {
     maybe still in progress, look for Reain's thread about it.
}
If Charas banner {
     It's just a simple idea of X.
     I like it, evenif we may want to place a banner where the big red "Charas" is placed.
}

:)
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Post by: woundedgoat on June 28, 2004, 03:40:37 PM: I like how the giant charas dude has a "Worship Charas or else" look to him.
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Post by: Paladyne on June 28, 2004, 04:01:19 PM: Quote
You mean you'd like it more colorful?
Just one question: what is needed to be readable is clearly readable to you or not?

No, I don't mean that. I mean, the left navigation bar was white, but it isn't anymore. And the background in the forums WAS white.
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Post by: Revolution911 on June 28, 2004, 04:19:21 PM: i think its great
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Post by: Chronic on June 28, 2004, 04:49:51 PM: Nice job on the new layout to everyone who was involved, i like it alot.
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Post by: GhostClown on June 28, 2004, 05:54:24 PM: heh, I like it too, I'm glad to see it like it is today. :D
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Post by: FFL2and3rocks on June 28, 2004, 06:30:03 PM: I'm not going to lie to you. I think the new layout is horrible. The two bright blue columns make the sides stand out while everything else is kind of in the background. :yell:
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Post by: Reain_ on June 28, 2004, 06:32:21 PM: I like it but i don't...... The banner at the top is good but the side bars i think you could change a little it's way to much blue at the sides... Well thats what bugs me any way
mabey darken it a little or ad another shade of blue with the light blue
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Post by: Revolution911 on June 28, 2004, 08:48:14 PM: im not complaining....but.....how about a color other than blue? red? green? PINK??
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Post by: Kijuki_Magazaki on June 29, 2004, 02:43:42 AM: I like it, only one bother

Where the forum discussions are, they are too separate apart. and if you could make them yellow it would help too. (darkish yellow or some light red))

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