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Title: Complete resources firing
Post by: Alex on May 27, 2004, 06:16:47 PM

Well...
i just received an email.
You can read the original text down here.
And behind the mail itself, my public reply to him.

THE ORIGINAL MAIL

In the charsets, the set http://charas-project.net/resources/Charasets/8095_1085423365.PNG was stolen from my site, the guy only changed the credits., and the http://charas-project.net/resources/Charasets/4656_1069104725.png has removed credits, as well the chars http://charas-project.net/resources/Charasets/7768_1083530741.png , http://charas-project.net/resources/Charasets/5500_1074921074.png , http://charas-project.net/resources/Charasets/3179_1062616876.png are without credit

And the following battle animation were also stolen: http://charas-project.net/resources/Battle_animations/5858_1080738807_small.png

I´m not asking to you remove the sets (except for the stolen ones), but give me proper credits. I had a site from February 2nd, 2002 to September 29th, 2003 ( www.fantasyrpgmaker.hpg.ig.com.br ) and a new after this server gets mad since October 27th, 2003 until today ( http://www.aloofhosting.com/frpgmaker/ ), everything done by myself, alone, except the other´s contributions, but they are credited and they send it to me. I got an horrible bad feeling when I saw my work stolen in your site, I´m even considering stopping have a site and removing all the content on the internet. Everything I ask is a ´By MRP´ on the Author and a link to my site in Description.
In the new site, if you want to see when I uploaded them, it´s just to see the charset entries... Also there are some original monster edits that I´ve none, but stolen again, and I don´t feel like searching from it again, I feel sick only imagining how much of my work might be in your site and without the proper credits....

Thank you for your time

MRP
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The details of the chars:
Author: marcosjayala
Name: Marcos Dona
Description: Use This To Your Best Game
Original size:: 288x256
Download (downloaded 4 times)
STOLEN
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Author: rodolpho_Mu
Name: Jill Valentine
Description: The Charset of Jill Valentine Of Resident evil 1 and 3.
(O Charset de Jill Valentine do resident evil 1 e 3.)
Original size:: 288x256
Download (downloaded 65 times)
UNCREDITED
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Author: countolaf108
Name: Dante
Description: Devil May cry
Original size:: 288x256
Download (downloaded 230 times)
UNCREDITED
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Author: Revolution911
Name: RIP
Description: rip from FFIV
Original size:: 288x256
Download (downloaded 215 times)
STOLEN
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Author: Vash_The_Stampede
Name: [Inuyasha] character charaset
Description: An Inuyasha charset I put together. Better than the other one. This one has Inuyasha.
Original size:: 288x256
Download (downloaded 435 times)
UNCREDITED
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Battle Animations:
Author: Bastien
Name: FF8 GF
Description: GF FF8
Original size:: 480x383
Download (downloaded 172 times)
UNCREDITED
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MY REPLY


I cannot say how much this hurts me...
You know, charas essentially is the generator, complete resources section was made just to share something more.
What i asked my users was to be honest: as you may know, in the "share your resources" page there is this alert:

DON'T SHARE RESOURCES NOT MADE BY YOU WITHOUT THE PERMISSION OF THE ORIGINAL AUTHOR AND WITHOUT CREDITING HIM IN THE DESCRIPTION!!!
If you'll do it, you'll be listed in a "resources thieves" page and you'll risk a ban.

But seems this is not enough...
I receive every day mails like yours and, as the Admin, i'm so sad some my users behave this way.

Fortunatly not everyone: i apologize with original and honest makers, but i really can't face the stupidity of those few thieves.

Probably it's time to make charas return what it really is, so i have to take a strong decision: the complete resources section are fired.

Again, i'm sorry for all of the honest users, but i absolutely don't want to waste my life in fixing damages made by stupid ppls who steal or share uncredited resources.

To those users:
did you think you was doing something clever?
did you think no one would ever discover you?
Well, this is what you gained: that section is DIE.

Again, i apologize with trustable users and with complete resources "victims" as the author of the original mail.

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Post by: GhostClown on May 27, 2004, 06:26:47 PM

*sigh* that was one of my favorite parts and it made this site and I had many good creations in there...thiers not much to say except that this is a very sad thing.

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Post by: RPG LORD on May 27, 2004, 06:32:41 PM

Damn them.

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Post by: Dr.chaos on May 27, 2004, 06:35:04 PM

I'm going miss it alot...To the users who abused complete resources, I hope you burn. You ruined a good thing you idiots. _sweat_

Title: "Cries"
Post by: Araloth on May 27, 2004, 06:35:53 PM

 
that was one of my favorite parts of this site ...
and the other rpg maker sites just sucked compared with this site... at least, thats my opinion

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Post by: Valeroth on May 27, 2004, 06:42:03 PM

Dammit... I'm really going to miss Complete Resources...  :( I have to go download the resources I wanted to.

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Post by: Cyber Ninja on May 27, 2004, 06:43:31 PM

Hope he(she) burns in hell >:

 The person that stole

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Post by: Red Giant on May 27, 2004, 06:45:26 PM

Wow. But I suppose it's a sensible choice.

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Post by: Alex on May 27, 2004, 06:48:51 PM

I'm very sorry too, but maybe in future we will reopen it in some way.
I don't know how (i cannot check the whole net alone), but i'll look for a solution.

Anyhow... in future.
I really have no mood to talk about this now, i'm very upset.  :(

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Post by: Cyber Ninja on May 27, 2004, 06:52:55 PM

Cant you protected them.............We should have codes that we can put in that u can get are comeplete resorces. But is that possable??? :|

Title: WTH
Post by: J-Masta on May 27, 2004, 07:19:23 PM

NOOOO i just found this site too, it was badass.  Maybe somehow u can like see if the char set or whatever is someone elses before you actually post it in the site, i dunno if thats what you already do but i dunno, its tough.

Title: uhm
Post by: grand_PiNpOn on May 27, 2004, 07:39:56 PM

i know what we could probably do :D
if we do it like this...; We send a recouce to Alex via E-mail.
if he likes it he can ask where does the edit or whatever come from and such BEFORE he puts it on the recource section.
if it's a stolen one Alex don't puts um on tha site but just throws um away...as for the people with a awnser like...i've editted it and i asked permission to him/her ,Alex can PM the one who's recource is editted.
and uhm...everybody can only post 5 recources per week so Alex won't get so much over worked:D

it's just an idea from tha Grandest of Grand, Tha Grand_PiNpON!

and if Alex doesn't want my idea...i hope the peeps who stole them recources would just burn in HELL or some other places where it is really hot >:

those peeps where just some $TÚþ!l) /\/\öT]-[@ FÚ©l<@zzz!

Message to Alex: If i find the guys or girls who did this i'll PM ya and you can throw um of the site!

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Post by: Ruler of the Dark on May 27, 2004, 07:48:13 PM

 :(  :(  :(  :(  :(  :(
This sucks. Again a few people ruined something for everybody. This happens too much, everywhere...

Darn, I was going to get alot of stuff from there that I put off, darn......

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Post by: DragonBlaze on May 27, 2004, 07:56:19 PM

Yeah that does suck. I just downloaded a few chipsets yesterday. I make most of my own resources now, so it won't effect me as much as it affects others. But it still sucks.

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Post by: RPG LORD on May 27, 2004, 08:01:18 PM

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Originally posted by grand_PiNpOn
i know what we could probably do :D
if we do it like this...; We send a recouce to Alex via E-mail.
if he likes it he can ask where does the edit or whatever come from and such BEFORE he puts it on the recource section.
if it's a stolen one Alex don't puts um on tha site but just throws um away...as for the people with a awnser like...i've editted it and i asked permission to him/her ,Alex can PM the one who's recource is editted.
and uhm...everybody can only post 5 recources per week so Alex won't get so much over worked:D

it's just an idea from tha Grandest of Grand, Tha Grand_PiNpON!

and if Alex doesn't want my idea...i hope the peeps who stole them recources would just burn in HELL or some other places where it is really hot >:

those peeps where just some $TÚþ!l) /\/\öT]-[@ FÚ©l<@zzz!

Message to Alex: If i find the guys or girls who did this i'll PM ya and you can throw um of the site!

You don't seem as crazy as I thought you were.

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Post by: Darkfox on May 27, 2004, 08:16:53 PM

...It's times like this that have made me a bitter person... it's people like those that have made me give up on the world.

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Post by: Revolution911 on May 27, 2004, 08:30:01 PM

i didn steal that! my friend sent it to me! He told me he made it!

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Post by: RPG LORD on May 27, 2004, 08:31:02 PM

Oh great, now you're blaming somebody else?

Title: uhm
Post by: grand_PiNpOn on May 27, 2004, 08:31:49 PM

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Originally posted by RPG LORD

quote:

Originally posted by grand_PiNpOn i know what we could probably do :D if we do it like this...; We send a recouce to Alex via E-mail. if he likes it he can ask where does the edit or whatever come from and such BEFORE he puts it on the recource section. if it's a stolen one Alex don't puts um on tha site but just throws um away...as for the people with a awnser like...i've editted it and i asked permission to him/her ,Alex can PM the one who's recource is editted. and uhm...everybody can only post 5 recources per week so Alex won't get so much over worked:D it's just an idea from tha Grandest of Grand, Tha Grand_PiNpON! and if Alex doesn't want my idea...i hope the peeps who stole them recources would just burn in HELL or some other places where it is really hot >: those peeps where just some $TÚþ!l) /\/\öT]-[@ FÚ©l<@zzz! Message to Alex: If i find the guys or girls who did this i'll PM ya and you can throw um of the site!

You don't seem as crazy as I thought you were.

well it's just.....*sigh*Charas is tha first site i've found on the web with the recources for RPGmaker.
it's just like a baby bird seeing the first thing ever, he think it's his mom.
and let's say i'm the baby bird and charas is the mother.
and if we can stop this madness......then i think we, all the members and visitors of charas, will do everything in our power to help!!!
am i right or am i right?

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Post by: Darkfox on May 27, 2004, 08:33:25 PM

Maybe it's time I take my leave before things get any more chaotic...

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Post by: Revolution911 on May 27, 2004, 08:34:39 PM

im not blaming someone else he told me he made it !

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Post by: Darkfox on May 27, 2004, 08:37:59 PM

...

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Post by: Revolution911 on May 27, 2004, 08:39:06 PM

well im not trying to start an argument, but alex, i wont take it personally if you ban me.

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Post by: Ruler of the Dark on May 27, 2004, 08:40:16 PM

 

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...It's times like this that have made me a bitter person... it's people like those that have made me give up on the world.

That sounds so poetic :)

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im not blaming someone else he told me he made it !

I know!!! I have a friend who gave me an idea fo a project and said it was his. Later I hot a detention fo plagerism! (He's no longer my friend for this and 42 other things)

 :yell: THESE ARE THE KIND OF PEOPLE WHO DO THESE THINGS!!!

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Post by: Darkfox on May 27, 2004, 08:42:18 PM

Well... it was cluttered up anyways... I guess... hm... well that dosn't change my decision, I don't want to stand around a bunch of dishonest people anymore... no offence...

Title: uhm
Post by: grand_PiNpOn on May 27, 2004, 08:45:05 PM

well Darkfox...i tought you where one of my role models in the forums!
but now when Alex needs us the most...you wanna go split???(split means away)
that's sad dude
don't go dude...Alex needs us!
C'mon you other dudes talk some sence into Darkfox

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Post by: Darkfox on May 27, 2004, 08:47:17 PM

Whats left to work with here? Ever since the Community Contest things started to downhill.

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Post by: Ruler of the Dark on May 27, 2004, 08:53:43 PM

I agree............... Rude people came, nice people left, plagerism, losing resources, etc... etc... etc...
I also disagree.... I still like this place 'cause there's still good stuff. Generator, Resource forums, and of course, STILL NICE PEOPLE!

I hope charas goes up hill now.................................

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Post by: Red Giant on May 27, 2004, 08:54:04 PM

You're leaving because there are some dishonest people around? Well, c'mon, there's dishonest people everywhere. Deal.

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Post by: Ruler of the Dark on May 27, 2004, 08:55:40 PM

Exactly. Toughen up. But theres mean people! So?
*colapses on floor because of split-personality argument*

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Post by: Darkfox on May 27, 2004, 08:59:48 PM

Think of it for a while, all these things going on, everything keeps getting worser and worser, the Community Contest instead of being fun has spawned stress and many other things including distrust and rivalries.

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Post by: Red Giant on May 27, 2004, 09:00:37 PM

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Originally posted by Darkfox
Think of it for a while, all these things going on, everything keeps getting worser and worser, the Community Contest instead of being fun has spawned stress and many other things including distrust and rivalries.

Rivalries?

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Post by: Darkfox on May 27, 2004, 09:02:07 PM

Some hostility between other communities.

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Post by: Alex on May 27, 2004, 09:02:16 PM

No one will be banned, the question is different.
Complete resources was anyhow something different from the original "Charas Model", so for charas itself it's nothing terrible to lose them.

I agree, it's a shame: but still something different.

Also, we should find again that "charas spirit" we had: i cannot accept "touch&go" users to devastate what we create in such a manner.

Complete resources are just a part of the problem: what about new users who just ask, receive and leave?
Users who do nothing for Charas?
Why should they be considered PART of Charas?

They're not.
Generators are better, at least a bit of work from users is required.

I want the REAL Charas back.
And i'm ready to do everything for this.
I need to fire more than 10.000 complete resources? I did it.
I will do everything in my powers to destroy lamers.
If Charas have to go on this way, i prefer to close it forever.
At least we would leave the "legend od Charas" instead of the "hellbound of Charas"

Title: uhm
Post by: grand_PiNpOn on May 27, 2004, 09:04:34 PM

yeah DF just listen to Red.G
and uhm.....i think the real nice peeps are here to support Alex.
right now on this very second!
of course there are still peeps who havn't been here today.
but what i mean to say is...your here DF and that's what counts...if ya wanna leave do it when charas goes uphill.
if ya wanna leave now just go...i won't stop ya from now on.
but think aboput all the people who know ya and your friends here on the forum.
just think about it...they will think something like...; Well that darkfox...when Alex needs help he splits and maybe comes back after it's all over.
well...go if ya wanna!
all the peeps who still like it here will stay

we don't need no Complete recources section!
maybe Alex can make one on the forum:D
just like the recource section.
and we post our recources there
if Alex want's to make the complete recource section on the forum...i will volunteer to be the leader of that section!

Title: uhm
Post by: grand_PiNpOn on May 27, 2004, 09:08:10 PM

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Originally posted by Alex
No one will be banned, the question is different.
Complete resources was anyhow something different from the original "Charas Model", so for charas itself it's nothing terrible to lose them.

I agree, it's a shame: but still something different.

Also, we should find again that "charas spirit" we had: i cannot accept "touch&go" users to devastate what we create in such a manner.

Complete resources are just a part of the problem: what about new users who just ask, receive and leave?
Users who do nothing for Charas?
Why should they be considered PART of Charas?

They're not.
Generators are better, at least a bit of work from users is required.

I want the REAL Charas back.
And i'm ready to do everything for this.
I need to fire more than 10.000 complete resources? I did it.
I will do everything in my powers to destroy lamers.
If Charas have to go on this way, i prefer to close it forever.
At least we would leave the "legend od Charas" instead of the "hellbound of Charas"

srry for the double post but WTF...Alex..O_O please think about my idea...atleast untill there's a sultion ok
please?

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Post by: Darkfox on May 27, 2004, 09:10:13 PM

I've made little to no contributions to the generators, all I've ever done was fix 1, the fox tails for medium chars, note: fix. Not make.

I've not made even one contribution to this community.

P.S. No offence Alex but I think dishonesty sorta killed the "Charas Spirit"...

Title: wow
Post by: Blitz Ace on May 27, 2004, 09:19:01 PM

Huh? Isn't this interesting. One site to another. All the good guys want to leave and so on, so on.

I just left another site because it went in the toilet...

And you know another sad thing is that because I can't make sprites, it's so hard for me to make a sprite, I've worked my butt off for months on one sprite, and due to a paint accident the thing got completely ruined. I'd search the complete resources for days looking for stuff I could use, and NOBODY ever deals with forum requests, how are people like me, who are polite, suppose to get a sprite, and a good one? And you know the worse thing, after an incident like this, all the good guys are gonna "split" and Darkfox is an AWESOME Creator, I've liked almost all his work, and to have him make one of my requests or his permission for any of his resources, would be the highest honor.

And there's nothing anyone can do, and everyone points the finger, tilts the blame, etc.

Despite all the bad, there is the good.
the person who I reconize the most is Darkfox, if you end up splitting . . . there's no reason for me to stay, I feel like a parasite, always using other's resources and sprites, I can't make my own, I've used the generator, and it's the easiest way I've seen, and the best, but I can't make creations using it.

Stealing other's resources is low, and to answer your question, there is no excuse, no answer to "Why'd you steal?" and "Don't think you'd get caught."
It's just plain wrong . . .

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Post by: Shady Ultima on May 27, 2004, 09:19:23 PM

I see it much differently DF, what you have not done in resouce making youve made up with with your great behaviour. I think that you have been like a big brother, watching all the newer members, and making sure they see what it is you do.

But about the plagarism, I knew already that  people were stealing resources, but I didnt want to say anything because I didnt want this to happen, but its sad to see it go, i did get a lot of good resources from there. Could it be possible to only have people able to get resources, not give them? So that its a copy only type of thing?

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Post by: Alex on May 27, 2004, 09:19:45 PM

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Originally posted by Darkfox
I've made little to no contributions to the generators, all I've ever done was fix 1, the fox tails for medium chars, note: fix. Not make.

I've not made even one contribution to this community.

P.S. No offence Alex but I think dishonesty sorta killed the "Charas Spirit"...

There's no offence, you're right.
That's why we need to face it. HARDLY.

You said you've not made even one contribution to this community: This is false.
You don't need to be a resource maker to be a "good user": i am not a resource maker too!
But you're here, you have respect for makers, you're helping out a lot.
Making resources is not the only way to be "part of".
So i cannot accept you to "dissociate" yourself from charas because of this.
Everything else if you want, but not this.
You ARE the kind of ppls Charas would need.

Out of this, it's your choice to leave or remain.

Title: uhm
Post by: grand_PiNpOn on May 27, 2004, 09:28:55 PM

...yeah...Alex is right...
srry darkfox...i totaly freaked out there
theres nothing we can do.
complete recource has died and go to heaven:(

but i'm loyal to this site...and i only say this...i will stay here on this site and this forum...i hope some people think so 2

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Post by: Darkfox on May 27, 2004, 09:31:30 PM

It's been a long time since I've done somthing for others, or even myself.

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Post by: Red Giant on May 27, 2004, 09:35:21 PM

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Originally posted by Darkfox
It's been a long time since I've done somthing for others, or even myself.

You can't be expected to be great to everyone all the time. No offense DF, but you expect to much of yourself.

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Post by: SaiKar on May 27, 2004, 09:37:47 PM

Well I must say that I think you are overreacting. Because a few people are jerks you shut down a huge part of the site? I only submitted my bcharacters to Charas, but now you have gone and deleted them all from the web.

With that section gone and almost all of  the work I have done deleted from the RPGMaker community, I feel I have no reason to stay here. I would ask you to consider but I know you will not.

Consider this my resignation from my moderator duties. Please feel free to remove my moderator status whenever you get around do it.

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Post by: Revolution911 on May 27, 2004, 09:37:59 PM

ok...look...df, i really know i shouldent be opening my big mouth but... your being too emotional about this man, things come things go. it really isnt so bad that you must leave. im not saying you must stay but  its your choice man

Title: MAN...
Post by: Kilyle on May 27, 2004, 09:41:00 PM

If is has to be...then it has to be.

I've spent the last three weeks ripping graphics from two video games so I could contribute to this site...where do they go, now?

And DarkFox...please stay.  We need a little light in the darkness.


I understand the righteous anger of those whose original or modified graphics have been stolen...however, what is the deal with rips?  I know they take time and effort--I am taking my own time and effort to rip graphics at present--but since you don't own them, why get hot over them showing up "uncredited" to you?  Isn't it conceivable that others could rip the same things and put them in the same order in a graphics file?  (Or even if they actually took your rips and didn't rip the graphics themselves, I don't see what there is to get excited over.  Some very large companies could get excited over us using their graphics, but they don't.  Can't we simmer down a little?)

I also wonder if the resources couldn't be brought back up this way.  First, set up three sections of the site.
  Section One: Original Graphics.  A person who contributes to this signs a little...affidavit?  Is that what it's called?...and swears that he created this graphics file himself (or herself).  If it's later determined that this person did not create it himself, it can be handled as a serious offense, probably ending up in a banned member.
  Section Two: Ripped Graphics.  Again, you sign something that says you created it yourself.
  Section Three (MAYBE): Uncredited graphics.  These are things that have been sitting around on people's computers, whose origins are lost to time or computer crashes or who knows what.  And this is a place where people can come forward and let us know where they came from.  When you post to this place, you sign something that says, "I did NOT create this; I swear I don't know where it came from" and then anyone who recognizes the graphic--be it original artist or casual passer-by--can say, "Hey, I know where that's from!"  And the ultimate result would be proper credit, or a link to that site (assuming it isn't linking itself to RPGMaker, or objectionable material, etc.).  So it's a measure of publicity for those who post their materials online at other sites, who maybe never heard of CharasProject.  And if someone wants their graphics taken down and their link not posted, okay.  But this is better (I think) than having all these cool but unused graphics files sitting around gathering dust because of a few computer crashes or broken links.  And this covers the graphics from sites that have gone down for one reason or another, or got moved and people can't find them anymore--so this way maybe they'll get found.

Anyway, that's my idea.  Now I need a "shrug" smilie...hmm... :blush:

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Post by: Blitz Ace on May 27, 2004, 09:41:49 PM

Darkfox, that's not true, look, just by your post, i've replied, I replied to try and ask you to stay, so technically, you've helped me help you, so you've helped yourself and me, all in one strike.

Look, man I've seen more Darkfox tagged onto those resources than I've seen the sun out, ever!

And if you want to help someone out, teach me how I can sprite, I need the help, I just recently got all my Rpg maker 2k stuff back, and not even that, and I finally sat down to try and piece together a game, I'm going to need help and aid from this site, and nobody'd be better than you.

I've seen your work, but never expected you here, and to think about leaving.. this is all unexpected.

I'd be honored if you'd stay to help me out, please.

I'm only going to ask this once, please.

Title: Additional...
Post by: Kilyle on May 27, 2004, 09:43:25 PM

...there'd also have to be something to deal with those who maliciously post materials from others' sites and "swear they don't know where it comes from" but are obviously lying...only I can't see how to deal with this.  Maybe there is no way to deal with it.  Hmm.

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Post by: woundedgoat on May 27, 2004, 09:46:12 PM

Okay, so most of you probably don't even know me, but I've been around here since Charas was just the Charaset generator.  Heck, I'm pretty sure there wasn't even a forum way back when, the point is  I myself too contributed mostly to the Complete Resource section and it is indeed a shame to see it go, and the whole thing with the Community Contest forming rivalries...  Well, its a contest...  There's supposed to be rivalries, its practically enevidable.  I mean, yeah, sure, Charas is having a little bit of a low right now, but its life.  I'll will get better.  We have something far too original on our hands here for it to just die out.

Now Darkfox, I've never talked to you and you've never talked to me, but never the less because I've been around this place for as long as I have I feel like I know you somewhat and I must say, your wanting to leave came to a complete shock to me.  Alex and Shady Ultima said all that needs to be said about your contribution to Charas.  If you really REALLY want to leave at this immediate time, here's my suggestion:  Just leave for a little while.  Take some time off Charas and come back, maybe in a month.  If you still want to leave then, then I speak for all of us when I say we wish you the best.

That's all I have to say for now.

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Post by: Alex on May 27, 2004, 09:46:34 PM

HALT!!!!

Who said complete resources are gone forever?
Yes, my reaction was (probably) terrible, but i'd like to restore it in a different way.
I already told about this some days ago.
SiKar works and everything is surely not "deleted", and will be available again VERY soon.
There will be a different way to manage completes: if i cannot trust some users, then who will upload complete must check for them.

THE IDEA
is to make the complete section available again.
But i'll give it TOTALLY to manage to someone else.
Who'd like to do this can propose himself.

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Post by: Darkfox on May 27, 2004, 09:46:37 PM

No, I should be able to do better but do I? Usually the best road is the road not taken, too bad I left it many miles back...

Sorry, I just don't think I like the way this is going, at this rate there is nothing further I can do than post words, and words are just letters put together neatly into somthing readable. It'll get me and everybody else nowhere quickly.

Btw, hasn't anybody else noticed how all this neatly follows the announcement of the Community Contest? I don't understand why but if I... no, not good thinking.

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Post by: Blitz Ace on May 27, 2004, 09:48:31 PM

I agree with wounded goat, if you do leave, I'll wish you the best.

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Post by: SnakeIzeGambit on May 27, 2004, 09:49:13 PM

To those leaving, if ur gonna go then go. if ur stayin stay.
I think that those that have been accused of theft be banned. They should be made examples of and the complete resource section should be put back up(if possible). The artists of this site need sumwhere to put their work where everyone can c. They work hard on them and deserve a lil shine.

edit:i c its back up

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Post by: Blitz Ace on May 27, 2004, 09:54:49 PM

new management of the complete resources, hmm, I'd take that position if I had a place to do so....

Alex, I'm new to the forums, but I'll weed through emails such as the one you got at the beginning of this thread.

I've stopped coming here about six months back, and back then i'd fiddle with the gen and look through the completed resources....

I'd take up that complete resource job, Alex. But I'd probably need a different email account to run it from (received a virus a few months back, so I'm a little shy with regards to my email account...)

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Post by: woundedgoat on May 27, 2004, 09:57:42 PM

 

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THE IDEA
is to make the complete section available again.
But i'll give it TOTALLY to manage to someone else.
Who'd like to do this can propose himself.

Alex, I know I'm not your first choice for the job, but I will volunteer my services to aid in the new complete resource section if/when you decide to reopen it.  I feel as though I could contribute to Charas best in such a way.

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Post by: Darkfox on May 27, 2004, 09:58:00 PM

If it does get brought back up, what have we to look forward to? But I don't have much to say there since it's not my area of control. I mean, my words alone aren't going to stop them are they?

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Post by: Alex on May 27, 2004, 09:58:38 PM

Ok, sorry....
Let us relax one moment....
SaiKar is right, i overreacted.
Complete section is back online, i will fix resources signaled in the first mail.

But the problem will be solved in a different way: i will post my idea better in a next post, now i just want to apologize with honest creators who spent their time to create those resources i obscured.
Sorry. I did a mistake.
Will post the rest within some minutes.

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Post by: Revolution911 on May 27, 2004, 09:59:02 PM

the resource section is back!

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Post by: Blitz Ace on May 27, 2004, 09:59:15 PM

I feel the same as Woundedgoat.

I can't sprite yet, I want to help this site.

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Post by: SaiKar on May 27, 2004, 10:04:29 PM

 

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Complete section is back online

Hmm... ah... well...

I suppose my reason for resignation just vanished. Very well then.

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Post by: Revolution911 on May 27, 2004, 10:07:36 PM

well...from now on, if i dont know who the author is, im not gonna submit it...(to prevent any further mishaps)

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Post by: Darkfox on May 27, 2004, 10:14:23 PM

Even if you did leave SaiKar I would help you find a new place in which to share your resources at... but anyways... maybe I could help with that management, but I think KM has a better eye in this kind of stuff.

I've taken notice that people submit the same stuff over and over that the others rip. This annoys me. Because there only needs to be 1 rip of 1 thing. Why rip the same thing again if it's already in there?

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Post by: woundedgoat on May 27, 2004, 10:16:34 PM

I too have noticed this on occation and it bothers me as well, unless subsequent rips are an improvment on the previous however.  Another thing I don't like it incomplete resources being submitted.  I think that the forum should be used to display WIPs in such a case.

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Post by: Darkfox on May 27, 2004, 10:18:28 PM

You mean like users being able to update the things they have submitted themselves? Interesting idea.

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Post by: woundedgoat on May 27, 2004, 10:22:00 PM

Yes, well I hate to pick on someone but at the moment the only example I can think of is RPG LORDs System set that he worked on some time ago (I could be wrong about the user and resource type.  I'm working off memory here).  There's about 5 (guess) resources in there that are progressions of the same thing and I think it clutters things up....  I think I'm gonna go check the CR section just to make sure I'm correct...

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Post by: Darkfox on May 27, 2004, 10:25:41 PM

I believe you are correct woundedgoat. Further reason why this may be a good idea, when I think of this I think of the resource submission system on Open Zelda site, I made a submission there as well.

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Post by: woundedgoat on May 27, 2004, 10:29:38 PM

Okay, I can't actually find what I was talking about, but as long as you know what I'm talking about.  And I don't think I've ever seen the Open Zelda resource system in action, so I can't really say anything about that *shrugs*.

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Post by: Blitz Ace on May 27, 2004, 10:31:14 PM

I'm glad to hear SaiKar is remaining here...Thanks for your post on my request thread, by the way.

Also woundedgoat, DarkFox, reading your posts was like reading a book from medieval times, lots of long words and formality.
things seem... okay.

It's still horrid about theives, I really don't know what to do there, but leaving, and blaming (well maybe a bit of blaming) isn't really the answer...

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Post by: woundedgoat on May 27, 2004, 10:33:09 PM

 

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Also woundedgoat, DarkFox, reading your posts was like reading a book from medieval times, lots of long words and formality.

Ha...  Yeah, I tend to talk like that when I'm at a keyboard.  I used to write in my spare time so it has considerably increased my vocabulary.

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Post by: Darkfox on May 27, 2004, 10:35:11 PM

 

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I used to write in my spare time so it has considerably increased my vocabulary.

Heheh, me too.

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Post by: woundedgoat on May 27, 2004, 10:36:42 PM

Well I guess that explains that then.  Ha...  That's funny.

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Post by: MrMister on May 27, 2004, 10:37:22 PM

Well, I guess I don't need to come here anymore.

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Post by: Alex on May 27, 2004, 10:37:28 PM

Ok.
For who'd like to become an overworked man:
http://charas-project.net/forum/showthread.php?forumid=4&catid=8&threadid=3970

;)

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Post by: grand_PiNpOn on May 28, 2004, 02:18:20 PM

Alex....thanks for giving back the complete recource thingy:D
i really luuuuúve that part of the site
but the forum....i luuuuuuúve that 2;)

i'm so happy:p :jumpin:

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Post by: White Dwarf on May 28, 2004, 02:23:35 PM

So it's back YESSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
(I got a call last night (From Red) telling me about it going(I was SOOOOOOO!! upset)

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Post by: Alex on May 28, 2004, 02:35:39 PM

We saw what "innocent stealing" may means in term of damages.
I'm sure yesterday many ppls understood deeply what misbehaviours can cause.

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Post by: carmen on May 28, 2004, 04:01:47 PM

I've seen some crazy things said in here. I also saw how DF said the community conteset has gone to crap lol. well I can do it now, due to some cool circumstances. So it's back up ^_^

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Post by: Blitz Ace on May 28, 2004, 05:57:49 PM

Yeah, everything seems to be smoothly going along now, heh, look back Darkfox, you said that it's not your area, and now you're involved it it.

And the complete resources are a really good thing, and there's always the chance of things being "stolen" there's really nothing you can do about it. I guess I sort of 'stole' stuff too, just because I was new to the RPG community and didn't know how to "give credit" now I always ask, say please and thank you, you know.

So far I've lost all the stuff I had so I get to start brand new, you know, and so far my only resources are faceset template andthe Cloud stuff I'm getting from Revolution.

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Post by: GaryCXJk on May 28, 2004, 09:23:18 PM

To be honnest, bringing back up the complete resources does ruin the real purpose of Charas, and the real purpose is the generators.

Also, when you click on the links now you will see... MY TEDDYBEAR!!! YAY!!!

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Post by: Kijuki_Magazaki on May 28, 2004, 10:12:39 PM

ok? lol

Anyhow, Sorru for not beign around (weel kind off) I have been watching the site just not logging in. Next week is my last week of school for this year and as everyone knows there is final exams and i really need to do some work. Anyway when I saw the the Com. Resources were gone, I did sadden and knowing that it was coming back and better I was feeling conforted. Anyway, I'll be absent still abit more at list till thrusday, after wards summer vacation baby!

    Also my timeline project is almost done but this would be a good addition. Charas is going thru a renovation that's all, no need to evacuate. And Alex, good job! Overreacting is normal over frustation, is what you do afterwards that determines your value. Anyway I will still be watching the sote, so think I am completely gone, school is harsh this ending year, so please bear,.

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Post by: Kijuki_Magazaki on May 31, 2004, 03:03:57 AM

Sorry for kicking just didn't know where to put this, and I would like to make a suggestion.

   When you are uploading  it asks you the following

    -Author
    -Section
    -Name
    -file
    -Description

Not sure if you find these unlikely to be good, but I think instead of "author" it should be "Submitted by" or "Uploader" or "Submitter" Or something but that indicates that a person submited the resource instead of being the author of it, also in support of that, another line that says "Credit to" or "Original by" or something to indicated the original author of the resource.

This I suggest for prevent confusion, when it says author and someone name's is after, it kind of indicates that that user made the resource. Now I know they can say the credits in the description but some ppl are just plain lazy to do that.

Wether it is a good idea or not, I tried suggesting :)

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Post by: Revolution911 on May 31, 2004, 04:17:17 AM

why r u guys still posting here>? :p

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Post by: Kijuki_Magazaki on May 31, 2004, 06:25:26 AM

 

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Sorry for kicking just didn't know where to put this, and I would like to make a suggestion.

 :D

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Post by: benosalankelley on June 16, 2004, 09:05:32 AM

you know, i do end up seeing lots of game rips of the same characters,
i reckon people end up getting mixed up, and thinking i, or anyone else stole them, so you can't judge me. (even so the characters belong to
the respected company)

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Post by: benosalankelley on June 28, 2004, 01:01:17 PM

i don't use the generator......they suck, truthfully, so thats my story, no offense. But i don't know. building up the complete resources was the waste of time. Okay, supposely i did submit wrong resources belonging to other people. But yeah, waste of time getting rid of them. Your choice.

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Post by: carmen on June 28, 2004, 01:09:42 PM

wow, a topic kick and a bump for no real reason, please don't kick topics unless you have to ( like me, lol still sorry for that guys)
Look at the date: if it's a week old..you may wanna hold off replying, it's prally old news