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Title: My Sprites
Post by: Mikado on October 08, 2004, 08:06:26 PM: Hi guys I'm a new spriter and I'm also new to this very kool site! so here are my characters(so many versions!) and tell me what you think! thank you! (http://img72.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img72&image=Picture002.png) (http://img69.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img69&image=Picture003.png)
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Post by: That_Guy on October 08, 2004, 08:13:21 PM: are those made from scratch?
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Post by: Xen on October 08, 2004, 08:14:02 PM: You made that? Cool!
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Post by: Revolution911 on October 08, 2004, 08:21:56 PM: there actually edits from flame of recca, street fighter, and naruto 2....still good tho
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Post by: That_Guy on October 08, 2004, 08:22:18 PM: ya that is kinda rare
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Post by: Mikado on October 08, 2004, 08:24:06 PM: are they any good? because I just finished making this sprite comic! check it out! (http://img90.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img90&image=Picture012.png)
there was my first edit on Sephiroth (he rocks!) and another of my edited sprite character, quick silver! heres another you can enjoy! (http://img86.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img86&image=AKUMAVSMIKADO.png)
and heres the second! (http://img28.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img28&image=lala.png)
tell me what you think and if i should continue with this! thank you for viewing!
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Post by: Revolution911 on October 08, 2004, 08:49:21 PM: well....there pointless....whats the plot?.....none at all?
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Post by: Mikado on October 08, 2004, 09:26:32 PM: well...ok the first one with the sephiroth was to see who was the best swords man! the one with akuma on the other hand was just an honor to fight him....thats all here another character i've worked on, I used a megaman base for him though but still tell me what you think! (http://img82.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img82&image=mikadoproductionthingy.png) r they any good?
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Post by: Revolution911 on October 09, 2004, 02:23:14 PM: the sprites are fine but the comics still have no "root plot" ......all the sudden they appeared and thought
"hey, how bout we fight to the death?"

"yea! ill call sephiroth"
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Post by: Mikado on October 10, 2004, 07:25:14 PM: lol well yea you can look at it that way, it was a short project but anyway besides the "no plot" r they still good? i mean r u they viewable?
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Post by: Mikado on October 11, 2004, 03:12:38 PM: anyone who has
guy from street fighter sprites
powers and objects sprites
akuma sprites
may i please use them for edit i really need them so if anyone hase any please let me use them! you shall be greatly apreciated.....
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Post by: GhostClown on October 11, 2004, 06:40:30 PM: Eh, their ok. You should try somthing besides edits though.
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Post by: Mikado on October 11, 2004, 08:21:05 PM: what do you meen? like make people from scratch or something?
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Post by: GhostClown on October 11, 2004, 08:39:08 PM: Yes, that is sort of what I was refering to.
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Post by: Revolution911 on October 11, 2004, 09:45:58 PM: edits dont really require MASSIVE talent..ya know? so its not that impressive. but if you kind use the sprite as a template and redo the whole thing that be kinda impressive
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Post by: RabbitKaiser on October 11, 2004, 11:58:56 PM: even though that sprite you editied is indeed hot sh!t, i agree with revolution. It would be nice to see some original sprites in a sprite comic.
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Post by: Revolution911 on October 12, 2004, 12:10:16 AM: you actually liked the comic................
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Post by: Mikado on October 12, 2004, 08:10:15 PM: o c'mon the comics weren't that horrible, were they?
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Post by: Revolution911 on October 12, 2004, 08:11:49 PM: they were beyond boring.....sephiroth and akuma? i mean cmon! no storyline whatsoever.who the hell is this "mikado". whats his past? WHO IS THE OTHER GUY? how did mikado get that glowy sword. i mean cmon....comics like that suck
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Post by: Mikado on October 12, 2004, 10:12:39 PM: fine! then i'll just make a comic on their past then, would you like that?
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Post by: Mikado on October 15, 2004, 07:44:56 PM: well.....i made a super mode that i plan to use on my up-comming sprite comic! the super form is of the one with the two swords just to let you kno, the first i recolored and made a double saber **** and the other since i love brolly so much! i ripped him myself and edited of him! so check it out and tell me which super form to continue on! and please if you have any sprite backgrounds that i can use! please! i need some for the origin of my characters! (http://img31.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img31&image=brollt.png) (http://img89.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img89&image=mikadoproductionthingy.png)
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Post by: Mikado on October 16, 2004, 03:24:06 PM: well this is the longest and hardest thing i've done but i managed! so u can take it but u must give me credit! any way i still need some backgrounds!
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Post by: GhostClown on October 16, 2004, 04:07:26 PM: Hm, that is very good shape I must so so myself. But the shading, you should try to work on.
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Post by: Mikado on October 16, 2004, 06:31:34 PM: ok i'll try the shading as soon as i'm done with my search for som backgrounds
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Post by: Mikado on October 16, 2004, 08:46:32 PM: welll i really tried making a story comic crap thin this is how it turned out! and since no1 was kind enough to lwt me use some backgrounds i had to once again rip them myself! (http://img89.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img89&image=001.png)
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Post by: Mikado on October 17, 2004, 12:39:23 AM: my search as ended.....i found backgrounds! :frag: :smoke: then ofcorse i made another attemp to make a story comic! check it out!
srry! that wasn't it here it is! (http://img30.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img30&image=untitled78.png)
and here's the second part ! (http://img83.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img83&image=COURT.png)
the third part will come out soon! it will depend if youguys like it or not!
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Post by: Mikado on October 18, 2004, 12:13:31 AM: well.....this is my third story comic....and finally not ALL of it is fighting so check it out! (http://img21.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img21&image=THEESCAPE.png)
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Post by: Revolution911 on October 18, 2004, 12:24:26 AM: im srry but...there still horrible.....i mean u have RIDICULOUS characters showing up....i mean brolly? of all ppl....the comics make no sense....how is he in a tournament? u didn even finish the first story comic.....and there basiclly all fighting frames which are very boring i might add...and his sprite changed between comics....
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Post by: Red Giant on October 18, 2004, 12:27:40 AM: Ok, you really haven't got the point have you? By plot, Rev meant a little more than a cheesy little set of text that takes up one frame.
It's the same thing, over and over. People are fighting each other. It's soo booooring.
If you want a comic that is of actual interest, step back a bit and realise that a comic about one guy who has to kill a load of other guys is not interesting.
Give your characters personality. I have no idea what this guy is like, all he does is hit people alot. Make motives, relationships, plots, and for the love of us all, take out the dang repetetive "Kill-them-all" theme.
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Post by: GhostClown on October 18, 2004, 12:32:56 AM: Well, what they're both trying to say is; maybe you should just stick to motorcycle sprites.
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Post by: Mikado on October 19, 2004, 12:20:38 AM: i swear to god guys seriously, ur taking it way off base man! obviously i'm a fighter! Mikado as ti said in the first comic, he's convicted of killing over a hundred ppl! as the story progresses you keep on knowing more and more about him! thats what builds a plot in the first place, he has to kill them all off to suvive in that tournament......brolly and the others were randomly picked by the announcer who he thought could kill off mikado but sadly he was wrong, and again as the story progresses mikado notices strange powers happening! (as you can see in the story, these comics are based off of your imagination so you can think what he is thinking!, so if he has a random blast you can think o......how did he do that or sumthin like dat) you don't have to say it to show it! :guns:
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Post by: Ace of Spades on October 19, 2004, 12:25:40 AM: The story would be good. But no offense, it's just boring looking at scenes of people fight. You need to apply that plot to the comic. It would be good, just put the plot into the story and don't make it all fighting scenes like a video game. Oh yeah, and please don't post gun smiles for no reason.
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Post by: Revolution911 on October 19, 2004, 12:55:32 AM: Quote
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i swear to god guys seriously, ur taking it way off base man! obviously i'm a fighter! Mikado as ti said in the first comic, he's convicted of killing over a hundred ppl! as the story progresses you keep on knowing more and more about him! thats what builds a plot in the first place, he has to kill them all off to suvive in that tournament......brolly and the others were randomly picked by the announcer who he thought could kill off mikado but sadly he was wrong, and again as the story progresses mikado notices strange powers happening! (as you can see in the story, these comics are based off of your imagination so you can think what he is thinking!, so if he has a random blast you can think o......how did he do that or sumthin like dat) you don't have to say it to show it! :guns:

WHY COULDENT U PUT ALL THAT IN YOUR COMIC! geez! its ALL FIGHTING FRAMES! fighting frames SUCK! make original characters. apperently all the comics (as you say) are connected.....howin the hell does he go from pointing a gun at zombies, tofighting brolly, to changing into a completely different sprite! i know NOTHING about him! all ur doing is making a bunch of fighting frames.
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Post by: Mikado on October 19, 2004, 07:15:17 PM: the shooting zombie thing was my fist attemp at a story comic, it has nothing to do with the other comic, and if i put that plot in thier then you'll say "o y did u put the plot that takes up a frame it's all so very boring and bla bla bla!"
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Post by: SnakeIzeGambit on October 19, 2004, 07:28:51 PM: u dont fill in a whole frame with the plot. u simply tell(write) what's going on in each frame(preferably along the bottom).
take bits and pieces of the plot and use it like a comic book would.
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Post by: Red Giant on October 19, 2004, 07:41:34 PM: Quote
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the shooting zombie thing was my fist attemp at a story comic, it has nothing to do with the other comic, and if i put that plot in thier then you'll say "o y did u put the plot that takes up a frame it's all so very boring and bla bla bla!"

If you don't accept critisism, how can you improve?
Look, when I go to see a kung-fu movie, I don't want fighting filling every single second.
When i complained about the story, the point was that you've made no changes. Whatsoever. If you want a plot in there, it needs to be told through the characters, through events, not just a bit of text because you have made basically no changes.
You explained all that stuff in your above posts, but for craps sake, we didn't know that. Go read a real comic book or something, see how its done.
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Post by: Mikado on October 19, 2004, 11:16:48 PM: look i can take a critisism as much as the next person, but if its the same crap over and over then forget it, i meen if one person already established that then there is no need to repeat it, instead tell me OTHER! critisims other than the same thing!
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Post by: GhostClown on October 19, 2004, 11:32:55 PM: Quote
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look i can take a critisism as much as the next person, but if its the same crap over and over then forget it, i meen if one person already established that then there is no need to repeat it, instead tell me OTHER! critisims other than the same thing!

Ok, just calm down. Don't even pay attention to them.
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Post by: SnakeIzeGambit on October 19, 2004, 11:52:43 PM: i told u wut u needed to do to improve. take my advice or dont. its ur comic so u can leave it as it is if u wish(and rite now it sux)

ppl wouldnt need to repeat the same stuff if u took wut the first one said into account and changed wut was wrong.
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Post by: Revolution911 on October 20, 2004, 01:04:40 AM: look man u gotta tell the story as the events progress....
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Post by: Osmose on October 20, 2004, 01:26:45 AM: Okay. Prepost warning - forget everything everyone has said in this thread. Consider ONLY what I am saying.

Now welcome to Moose's Comic Seminair. I am your host, Moose. Please sit down and get some paper, and a pen. Be ready to take notes.

The first rule of making sprite comics is length. If the punchline can't be reached within four or so frames, then the comic isn't worth writing. If need be, you can extend the comic a bit, but going too long just makes it boring.

Next, the best comics start with NO story. Trust me, you will develop some sort of overlying mission, but story should be secondary towards the humor.

Now, you justify your numerous fighting frames by saying "He's a fighting guy! Didn't you see that he was once convicted of killing 100 men? That means it's going to be a fighting comic!" Well, tough luck, a comic about fighting, and just fighting, is kinda boring. Supplement the fighting with talking and jokes.

But before we can figure any of this out, you need to find a way to frame your comics. A bunch of backgrounds messily arranged on a white bg is REALLY ugly and unprofessional working.

The first step is estimating the size of your comic, and resizing the pic to that size. Next, find the background you'll be using. Be SURE that all frames are of the same size. Bigger or smaller frames can be added by using a diagonal black line or spreading a frame over the space of two frames, but it's a lot better to keep the size constant.

If you need to resize a background, like when changing backgrounds, consider not resizing, but instead, cutting a portion of the new background. You'll lose some of the background, but it would look better. But resizing is sometimes allowable.

Next is your speech bubbles. Try to make a universal speech bubble you can just copy and paste. That works. And also, NO NARRATION LIKE IN YOUR OTHER COMICS. Once again makes the comic boring.

So now, you've got your comic all set up, with the pretty black border. Final checklist:

1.Does it have the comic title, author, number, and obligitory funneh quote ABOUT the comic(a second punchline usually)?
2.Does it look like a pro did it?
3.Is the joke funny? And not just to you, but look at it from the outside. Would a random person from nowhere find it funny?
4.Does the comic make sense? Don't refer TOO much to past comics, try to make it so someone could pick up from where you are. This rule can be thrown out later when your comic becomes successful enough, but it's good to let the audience just jump in.

I might have missed a few points, but this will vastly improve any comic. Try it.
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Post by: SnakeIzeGambit on October 20, 2004, 01:52:32 AM: there are more than just humorous comics moose boy. i think mikado should let us kno if its an action comic book (i.e. X-Men) or a comical comic strip.
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Post by: Mikado on October 20, 2004, 07:09:23 PM: ok....well i made another attemp to make a story action! comic! i'm going to tell you the story first, then i'll show u the sprites after the story is shown, how about that do you think it'l work or not?
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Post by: SnakeIzeGambit on October 20, 2004, 07:20:10 PM: isnt that wut u were doing b4? _sweat_
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Post by: Mikado on October 20, 2004, 07:44:29 PM: Introduction: THE BEGINNING

Masenko D. Mikado brother of his arrogent but succesful sibling, Duaragon C. Mikado. Masenko was a great fighter aswell as Mikado, they were a great team until they came across a man named Jin Kutegouwa, a well known buisness man that would kill anyone if he did get what he wanted, he had told the brothers to retreive a sword for him since Jin had heard the rumor that Masenko and Mikado were the best fighting team. The brothers had no choice but to accept, the next night they retrieved it, but Masenko was way to geedy to just give up the sword for he knew what great power lies in the blade, it has said that who ever weilded the blade was granted enhanced stealth, strength, and speed making the weilder invincible, but in return you must for fill its lust for human blood, if not then it will feed on yours. Mikado was 19 and Masenko 20. When Masenko realized how powerful Jin was.....it was to late!( after your done reading this boring thing you can look at the intro comic thing!)
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Post by: Osmose on October 20, 2004, 07:50:03 PM: ... you're comparing a sprite comic to X-Men?

Sprite comics, almost all of them, are humor comics. I have almost never seen a sprite comic that wasn't about jokes and stuff(the ones I did see weren't that good. Only one has actually ever pulled it off successfully.).
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Post by: SaiKar on October 20, 2004, 07:50:43 PM: You saw mine! It was not good and did not pull it off successfully! Yay!
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Post by: Revolution911 on October 20, 2004, 07:56:30 PM: ive seen non humerous srpite comics
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Post by: Mikado on October 20, 2004, 08:04:50 PM: well if you're read the intro here is the intro comic, it happened right after the intro! (http://img54.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img54&image=011.png)
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Post by: SnakeIzeGambit on October 20, 2004, 08:10:46 PM: well this is not a humerous sprite comic moose. its an action comic.

and mikado u really need to make original names. I've played th Bouncer and i kno who Duragon C. Mikado is but thats sprite is not him. And the storyline is weak.
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Post by: Red Giant on October 20, 2004, 08:12:48 PM: Ugh. I give up. You're not listening to anyone.
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Post by: Mikado on October 21, 2004, 12:36:08 AM: just because i don't make humourous comics duzn't meen its automatically a bad comic, and if it is a bad comic y do u look at it? is it to humor urselves? i don't like to be humorous i'm a fighter! and action horror and darkness is me and if you don't like it too bad, i'm still going to make the comics for the sake of it
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Post by: SnakeIzeGambit on October 21, 2004, 12:42:28 AM: ok now u jus need to shut up, breathe/cool down and look at my previous posts. ive known it was an action comic the whole time and ive given u things to fix to make it a better action comic.

u added the text into the frames which is a + but u need to work on making original names for ur characters.
u also need to make a better storyline. The whole having to kill everybody story is weak and should be worked on and improved.

if u dont want feedback on ur comic than dont post it here, that jus leaves it open for ridicule and criticism.
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Post by: Mikado on October 21, 2004, 07:34:30 PM: as i said earlier i can take critisims as much as the next person but as u can see i'm not to good on making up stories, and again i'm a fighter and fighting is what i like so i'm gonna keep making the comics if you like it or not
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Post by: SnakeIzeGambit on October 21, 2004, 07:41:17 PM: ok so dont post nemore comics here or else ur gonna get flamed cuz it sucks
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Post by: Revolution911 on October 21, 2004, 08:53:31 PM: Quote
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just because i don't make humourous comics duzn't meen its automatically a bad comic, and if it is a bad comic y do u look at it? is it to humor urselves? i don't like to be humorous i'm a fighter! and action horror and darkness is me and if you don't like it too bad, i'm still going to make the comics for the sake of it

its not that its not humerous. its that they suck. is that clear enought for you? look u obviously cant take critisism. we have given u info u need to improve on comics. yet u refuse to be wrong so u say w/e u do well say it sux. heres an idea. MAKE A GOOD COMIC. then we wont say it sux. harsh yes, but its the facts
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Post by: -Hefestos- on October 21, 2004, 09:46:14 PM: Ok ok.... let's see...

You said this Mikado:

Introduction: THE BEGINNING

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Masenko D. Mikado brother of his arrogent but succesful sibling, Duaragon C. Mikado. Masenko was a great fighter aswell as Mikado, they were a great team until they came across a man named Jin Kutegouwa, a well known buisness man that would kill anyone if he did get what he wanted, he had told the brothers to retreive a sword for him since Jin had heard the rumor that Masenko and Mikado were the best fighting team. The brothers had no choice but to accept, the next night they retrieved it, but Masenko was way to geedy to just give up the sword for he knew what great power lies in the blade, it has said that who ever weilded the blade was granted enhanced stealth, strength, and speed making the weilder invincible, but in return you must for fill its lust for human blood, if not then it will feed on yours. Mikado was 19 and Masenko 20. When Masenko realized how powerful Jin was.....it was to late!( after your done reading this boring thing you can look at the intro comic thing!)

Let me give you some more advices...

Ok, the Mikado brothers are a figthing team, but... why do they fight for?, revenge?, to amuse people?, got beat up as kids so they want a massive come back in humanity? ( not to mention that their story reminded me guys such as Terry and Andy bogard from the "Fatal Fury" series, or the lee brothers from "Double Dragon")

Moving on...

Then you said that...

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[/until they came across a man named Jin Kutegouwa, a well known buisness man that would kill anyone if he did get what he wanted

Geese Howard!! ( oops... sorry :eyes: ) ( gotta be more creative ) "and the brothers have to do what that guy wants"
I thought they were strong or something... ¬__¬

One of the powers of the sword.... IS STEALTH!!.... :yell:

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but in return you must for fill its lust for human blood, if not then it will feed on yours.

Yeah... I've played the "Shinobi" too... great SEGA game...

:badboy: Originality is the answer...

Sooooo.... I just suggest you start from scratch or MODIFY the story some more, but hey!! its your comic kid

C' ya
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Post by: Mikado on October 22, 2004, 09:04:30 PM: nevermind the comics, i'm just going to make pointless fights for my ****ing amusment, if you don't like it o well if you do however, I thank you, geese, you guys and ur story suz critisims r annoying! as you can see i'm not a story person i a fighter! and fight comics is what I do and what I stick to........
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Post by: SnakeIzeGambit on October 22, 2004, 09:29:47 PM: Quote
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and fight comics is what I do and what I stick to........

a lil bit of a contradiction

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you guys and ur story suz critisims r annoying!

and ur no story sh*t is also annoying. go ahead and make ur lousy comics since we have all tried to show u what u need to do to make it better(and i dont think u should call wut ur making a comic since its jus a bunch of frames with no meaning).
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Post by: Revolution911 on October 22, 2004, 09:45:06 PM: if u suck at storys why are you making comics? there the heart of the comic
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Post by: -Hefestos- on October 22, 2004, 11:22:32 PM: Ok, he's gonna make comics for his own amusment, So there you have it!!! ^____^, let us all let this post die, please?! :eyes:

THANK YOU!!!

Now die post!!! DIEEEEEEEEE!!!!! :frag:
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Post by: Mikado on October 23, 2004, 11:21:48 PM: not always.......it seems that ur more into the story than acual comic, and u can call my fight comics whatever u want to call them! i wouldn't give a rats *** about what u would call it, like i said before I'M NOT A STORY PERSON!
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Post by: Osmose on October 24, 2004, 12:03:46 AM: Mikado, there is one flaw within your logic. You say you don't care, you'll keep making fighting comics whether we like it or not.

But you can't. Not without a story. Even if you're not a story. For, you see, the comic is a platform made FOR stories.

A great comic artist once said that we need to redefine the comic to fit todays standards. Because you can't really "tell" someone WHAT a comic is. You can show examples, say "A comic is like a book, ya know, like the batman comics." But define comic.

"A book with pictures." Not good enough. Tis too general. You need to include the style. One could argue a comic is not a thing, but is a genre of art, and the proper term is a comic book, and this is a good way of explaining it.

Comic style has a few defining features. First of all is the borders. Now you might say "Some comics don't have borders!" Indeed, but do not some paintings have no frame? The comic book border is a common theme in nearly all comic books.

Next is the content. This is where you are flawed. Comic style is a meld of the written and the drawn. A comic cannot be simply pictures of people fighting, because if it was it would be deviating too far from the base characteristics of comic books. It would be pushed back into the "Book with pictures" category.

When you say you're making a comic, people today expect some sort of story, with art/graphics to go along with it. The term Sprite Comic is associated with quick punchlines and frequent updates, due to the simplicity of making a sprite comic.

This may be way too deep for the situation, but the end result is that your idea of a comic is not really a comic but a fight scene without animation. And few people like those. Have fun making them, but the reason people make comics is to show them to others, to display their work and send out their message, even if it's as simple as "LOOK AT THIS! AIN'T IT COOL?" You can say you don't care about our opinions, but the fact you're making them shows you care about SOMEONE's. And if you want to be praised, you're going to have to take some of our suggestions to heart.

Good luck mulling this rant over.
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Post by: Mikado on October 24, 2004, 04:11:03 PM: have u heard of bd comics? that is mine and my cuzins website dude if u want a story comic here is one by us
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Post by: Mikado on October 24, 2004, 04:19:49 PM: here..... (http://img93.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img93&image=ryukishin1.png)
the reason why I wanted to abandon it becase it had little to nothing of action
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Post by: Draven on October 24, 2004, 04:34:49 PM: Quote
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well if you're read the intro here is the intro comic, it happened right after the intro! $\"http://img54.exs.cx/img54/5108/011.th.png\"$

Er... I don't get it? After two years that guy is still lying there in that street?
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Post by: Osmose on October 24, 2004, 05:06:04 PM: Quote
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the reason why I wanted to abandon it becase it had little to nothing of action

Er, that big purple flash? The foot stabby? Chainsaw? That IS action.
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Post by: Mikado on October 24, 2004, 07:06:13 PM: WAIT....U ACCUALLY LIKE IT! my god.....yea it did have some kind of action but not enough!
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Post by: Osmose on October 24, 2004, 07:42:22 PM: Okay, you are a bit messed up... you want so much freaking action that you just wanna see people punch and kick each other over and over and over.... that's not normal. Go watch dragon ball Z or something.
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Post by: Revolution911 on October 24, 2004, 09:15:09 PM: o..m..g......THAT WAS A GOOD COMIC. WHY ARE YOU MAKING THESE CRAP COMICS IF U CAN MAKE COMICS LIKE THAT?! it has a story to it. there is enough action, and not so much that it ruins the comic. just make it more clear on which frame goes first.
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Post by: Mikado on October 24, 2004, 10:47:23 PM: so you want me to continue it is what ur saying?
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Post by: Mikado on October 24, 2004, 10:53:55 PM: well......i made a continuation of the comic here it is! (http://img91.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img91&image=ryukishin2.png)
enjoy
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Post by: Mikado on October 24, 2004, 11:00:35 PM: this is another sprite image thing i've been working on check it out!
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Post by: Mikado on October 25, 2004, 10:20:29 PM: ok....I've made the third comic strip that you guys love so much enjoy! (http://img22.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img22&image=ryukishin3.png)
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Post by: Revolution911 on October 25, 2004, 10:25:17 PM: u see ....thats a big improvement
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Post by: Mikado on October 25, 2004, 11:04:38 PM: thank you
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Post by: Mikado on October 26, 2004, 12:13:56 AM: do you think I should continue to make number four or not?
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Post by: Mikado on October 26, 2004, 07:37:41 PM: since I was bored and you guys like this better than my pointless fights, here is the fourth comic now tell me if i should make five or not! (http://img98.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img98&image=ryukishin4.png)
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Post by: xJericho on October 26, 2004, 07:44:49 PM: Very Cool,... I loved ninja warriors (I think it was the title),... does anyone know where I could get it in these days? *g ;)
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Post by: Mikado on October 26, 2004, 10:46:05 PM: lol ur not the only one who loves ninjas there pal! and nice sephiroth picture(he rocks) but unfortunatly that is the last comic u'll see of that series
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Post by: Mikado on October 27, 2004, 12:37:03 AM: well...since i finished up that one i made another series heres the first comic, number 2 and 3 may very by you guys (http://img38.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img38&image=fight.png)
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Post by: SnakeIzeGambit on October 27, 2004, 01:20:50 AM: nice...action, comedy, and storyline.
was that so hard?

i like it
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Post by: Mikado on October 27, 2004, 07:55:55 PM: thank you....howkind...and for me? yes! its very hard!
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Post by: Mikado on October 28, 2004, 01:08:48 AM: here is the second comic to end this series because i'm being to lazy right now, i'll tell you otherwise if i continue one of the two series, or if you encourage me to, either way will do. (http://img22.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img22&image=fight2.png)
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Post by: Mikado on October 28, 2004, 07:41:43 PM: I made a sprite rip of Brolly if anyone wants to use them here they are! (http://img24.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img24&image=brollysprite.png)
and do NOT steal them!
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Post by: Mikado on October 30, 2004, 02:19:30 AM: I've decided to abandon those series because they bored me, I made a intro to a new comic that I WILL! keep and hopefully make a 10 comic series on it! (http://img91.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img91&image=NewAssassinIntro.png)
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Post by: Osmose on October 30, 2004, 02:46:02 AM: Cant.... read.... bad...... contrast..... speech bubbles! My kingdom for some speech bubbles!

Translation: The text clashes with the background. Speech bubbles would make reading easier.
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Post by: Mikado on October 30, 2004, 02:58:55 PM: alright i'll work on it on my next comic
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Post by: Mikado on November 02, 2004, 12:14:06 AM: are there any other critisims to take? cuz really i don't want to deal with the same crap again! the comic will be posted two days from now
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Post by: GhostClown on November 02, 2004, 02:33:34 AM: You do them well, But I think you should be putting your time and effort into somthing not so over used.
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Post by: Chris'ilian on November 02, 2004, 09:08:12 PM: Hey, your work is kinda cool =)

May I copy that first image you linked an make an animation from it?
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Post by: Mikado on November 04, 2004, 01:51:38 AM: sure you can go ahead and do that! it would be great, just be sure to send me it when you finish! speaking of finishing...i made the comic (http://img116.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img116&image=Firstfight.png)
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Post by: Mikado on November 04, 2004, 09:24:59 PM: any critisims?
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Post by: Mikado on November 04, 2004, 09:49:30 PM: well...i made this stick animation from pivot stick animator! check it out, i know its fucked up but its my first time making this so...like...gimme all the critisims you can make and please don't tell me it sucks i took a long time making this! (http://img125.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img125&image=finals.gif)
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Post by: Mikado on November 04, 2004, 09:54:24 PM: i just finished making this one and the second comic will be posted saturday or tomarow.....depending on how lazy i am :D
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Post by: Mikado on November 04, 2004, 10:02:29 PM: i just finished making this one and the second comic will be posted saturday or tomarow.....depending on how lazy i am :D (http://img127.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img127&image=Fist.gif)
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Post by: Red Giant on November 04, 2004, 10:04:03 PM: Quote
Originally posted by Mikado
any critisims?

Yes, its just another boring sprite comic.
The stick animation was basically the same. I can appreciate that you put alot of work into it, but still. There are too many stick fight animations in the world already.
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Post by: Mikado on November 04, 2004, 11:48:05 PM: so what if there are any stick fights already! i'm just appart of that group then, it doesn't bother me at all, and what wrong with the comic? any way be sure to read this comic fully! i made a small continuation of it! (http://img103.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img103&image=streets.png)
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Post by: Mikado on November 05, 2004, 09:16:01 PM: the second comic is going on well, maybe is i'm not lazy enough i might just post it later today, and man! this forum thiny is like, the second most popular man! this is kool! i am willing to take critisims to put in to my next comic to make it better! anyone have any go out and say it!
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Post by: Mikado on November 06, 2004, 04:44:20 PM: here is the second comic and the third will be on its way, give me critisims and conserns! (http://img104.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img104&image=omerasheed.png)
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Post by: VahnGrave on November 06, 2004, 04:52:53 PM: Meh. I liked the startrek part
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Post by: SnakeIzeGambit on November 06, 2004, 06:10:46 PM: stick animation- they were very choppy and pretty boring. sound effects could probably work wonders for them tho.

comic 1- Akuma!?!?!?(u should be a lil more original). in the back ground there is a cat that is in mid jump for the whole sequence(even if the fighters are movin quick the cat should have at least moved during the talking).

comic 2- i like it but when u mentioned what will happen when u have all the orbs u said that he would have eternal kills?
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Post by: Mikado on November 07, 2004, 01:02:16 AM: the whole eternal kill thing it just meens that you can be immortal and you can kill up to 100 ppl in a split second and not get stopped......
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Post by: Mikado on November 07, 2004, 02:14:07 AM: i can't get any sound on my stick figure fitghts cuz i dunno how to put them! so unless i kno how to put sound all ur gonna see is mimes fighting eachother. (http://img93.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img93&image=lllll.gif)
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Post by: Mikado on November 07, 2004, 02:32:49 PM: any critisims to take
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Post by: Osmose on November 07, 2004, 03:10:39 PM: The stick animations are all pretty much the same moves in different order. Try making them with flash, or at least more fluid.

The comics, however. Are getting a LITTLE better. For one, your speeck bubbles need a little triangle pointing out from them so we know who's talking. Best wat to do this is make it in a seperate window and then copy-paste it with transparency on so that you can move it around a bit.

Also, work on your grammar. Even if you don't normally type well, it's a good habit and will make the comic work better.

Some parts are awkward, like the orb going into him. Sacraficing a frame or two from the fight scene to go to showing the orb merging with him and him saying "Argh! What.... is.. ha... happening t-to me?!" And then having Mikado appear explaining it would've worked. Also, Mikado's text there was kinda leaking out, make sure text isn't doing that.

The frame after that is a good example of the grammar thing. "The orb obsorbs you and gives you a certain type power. In this case the blue orb gives you speed, which it seems you don't really need it." Let's see how much better that sounds with a re-typing:

"Once a fighter obtains an orb, he absorbs it into his body, thereby gaining the power specific to that orb. The Blue Orb is the orb of speed, but because you already are fast, you will gain little from absorbing it."

I think it's better that way.

Also the chainsaw on the badguy went transparent in frame three.

And finally, at the beginning you act like there was a huge massacre. Try to make it a little more obvious than some blood streaks on the floor that are part of the setting. A few dead bodies would've been good.
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Post by: Mikado on November 07, 2004, 03:19:28 PM: thank you for the critisims, i will look over it again to make sure i got everything right, and.....yea so umm thanks again.
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Post by: Mikado on November 08, 2004, 10:46:00 PM: the next comic is well on its way and i'm also starting a new series (i din't abandone the other one!) mr.t vs ryu! i shall post it tomarrow or later today!
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Post by: Mikado on November 09, 2004, 12:26:09 AM: i've decided to post it today! here it is! (http://img72.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img72&image=tvr00.png)
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Post by: Osmose on November 09, 2004, 12:40:21 AM: For some reason no one mentioned this, but there's an edit button for a reason.

MR.T VS RYU?!?!?!?!?!?!

You are a genius.
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Post by: Mikado on November 09, 2004, 01:18:42 AM: lol....umm...o yea lol i forgot that button was there! and i decided to make a quick continuation of the ryu vs mr. t (http://img7.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img7&image=tvr05.png)
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Post by: Mikado on November 09, 2004, 07:59:50 PM: i've decided to make another funny continuation to ryu vs mr. t (http://img35.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img35&image=tvr10.png) enjoy and gimme critisims dammit!
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Post by: Mikado on November 09, 2004, 10:03:56 PM: here is a third quick continuation and i'm trying to fuse the mikado character with the rookie assassin (from my other comic series!) i dunno to me it looks kinda gay but here is a proto type and another ryu vs mr.t continuation! enjoy bizaaaaatches! (http://img95.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img95&image=tvr16.png) (http://img80.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img80&image=fusionmikado.png)
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Post by: Mikado on November 10, 2004, 01:25:59 AM: man! u guys r sad man! i begging for some critisisims! *goes on his knees and begs* please need critisisms to survive! anyway i continued ryu vs mr. t (http://img14.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img14&image=tvr19.png)
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Post by: Osmose on November 10, 2004, 10:21:04 AM: You obviously don't know what the edit button is. Stop quadruple posting and just edit all the new comics into your last post until someone replies. And stop saying "GIMME CRITICISMS!" Criticism*no s* is not something you just hand out to make your comic better. YOU have to work to make it better yourself.
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Post by: Mikado on November 13, 2004, 03:38:45 AM: am how am i suppose to do that when i don't know what the problem is? the creators work will always love his/her comics so ofcorse i'm not gonna critisise badly on my own work! thats pointless! so thats where you come in! and here's three and final comic continuations of ryu vs mr. t! enjoy biznaaaatches! (http://img120.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img120&image=tvr19.png)
(http://img20.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img20&image=tvr23.png)
(http://img104.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img104&image=tvr28.png)
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Post by: Mikado on November 13, 2004, 06:59:28 PM: any critisism? at all?
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Post by: Red Giant on November 13, 2004, 07:11:37 PM: Your more recent comics are better, because at least they have comedic value. Goodums.
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Post by: Mikado on November 13, 2004, 07:43:25 PM: thank you! thats what I was aiming for in that short comic series! but unfortunatly that is the last of the comediac values, I'm going back to action
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Post by: Mikado on November 14, 2004, 10:28:37 PM: (http://img96.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img96&image=kteemer.gif) (http://img104.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img104&image=lllll.gif) (http://img128.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img128&image=sonicopt.gif)
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Post by: Mikado on November 14, 2004, 10:53:22 PM: enjoy the three animations? well here is a intro to a new comic!NOTE: i'm still working on the other comic! any way I realize its like resident evil (one of my favorite games) but still I ofcorse personaly think its good but i'll let you decide on that! http://putfile.com/pic.php?pic=11/31817294954.jpg
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Post by: Osmose on November 14, 2004, 11:15:40 PM: WOW - those animations are definately awesome. See, the comics were supposed to be fore a story, but animated gifs are a much better platform for your action oriented stuff.

Problem, though, is that you can't link to files on your hard drive.
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Post by: Mikado on November 14, 2004, 11:58:28 PM: all so very true......, i made these....humor animations you might find amusing.....http://img8.exs.cx/img8/6714/585-squat.gif
http://img102.exs.cx/img102/6363/30-suicide.gif
http://img102.exs.cx/img102/2443/147-sfdt.gif
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Post by: Relentless Soulscar on November 15, 2004, 01:52:11 AM: HAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAA!!! the first ones kinda odd but the second one rocks!! MINDLESS VIOLENCE!! *notices hes yelling * ... *clears throat* ... there kool..
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Post by: Mikado on November 15, 2004, 09:18:38 PM: so i have a violent intent....this is my way of releasing anger, if not then i go to kicking the **** out of people until they are not capable of moving
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Post by: Osmose on November 15, 2004, 11:36:52 PM: *pictures mikado getting his *** kickec by some guy he insulted* Make that a comic and I'll laugh. :P
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Post by: Mikado on November 16, 2004, 12:02:27 AM: yo **** you!
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Post by: Mikado on November 16, 2004, 12:42:14 AM: why can't this forum thingy become a sticky? i meen, so far it has the most post and view (from the non-stickies), and tell me if you likeee my anime thingy!
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Post by: Osmose on November 16, 2004, 12:59:49 AM: Because we don't sticky popular topics, we sticky important topics. And keep using imageshack.us, since you were before. Saves charas space - those animated gifs take a lot of space.
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Post by: Mikado on November 16, 2004, 02:12:16 AM: the image shack isn't working right on my combuter, i'll try to find another suitable uplaoding place
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Post by: Red Giant on November 16, 2004, 02:16:23 AM: Edit Button: A useful button that you can use to EDIT things into previous posts instead of posting a ton of annoying posts in a row.

Sticky topic: Topics that are important for people to see, for example the rules.

Plus, this has NOT had the most replies and views.

The suicide one was good, as was the second one, but the other ones were... eh... so so. In my opinion.
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Post by: Osmose on November 16, 2004, 02:16:56 AM: *looks at sig and confirms suspicions* Mikado, stop stealing other people's animations and claiming them as your own.
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Post by: Revolution911 on November 16, 2004, 02:22:16 AM: there not funny in my opinion......but im not amused easily
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Post by: Mikado on November 16, 2004, 10:31:57 PM: i did not steal these! osmose? the animations i did on my own! i posted them on numerous sprite places like aftervision, bob and goerge ect. i don't only post in this one site
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Post by: SnakeIzeGambit on November 16, 2004, 10:51:16 PM: he means ur sig
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Post by: Osmose on November 16, 2004, 10:58:13 PM: The sig was NOT made by you. And judging by the quality of your comics, you didn't make the sonic-mortal combat ones either. Stop posing as someone else.
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Post by: Revolution911 on November 16, 2004, 11:04:23 PM: that is true....if u could make them that good, why would u make ur comics so horrible?
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Post by: Mikado on November 17, 2004, 01:04:08 AM: there can be good animators and bad comic makers! thats so totally possible!
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Post by: Mikado on November 18, 2004, 09:36:43 PM: new upcoming comics will be out by saturday the latest so be on the look out!
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Post by: Revolution911 on November 18, 2004, 10:04:53 PM: if u could make that, u woulda atleast made the text boxes flashy...
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Post by: Mikado on November 19, 2004, 01:23:24 AM: i never knew text boxes had a big part on comics...i know its there to like tell you **** and like the story and stuff but flashy? c'mon! it'll give you a seisure trying to read my crap!
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Post by: Osmose on November 19, 2004, 02:27:55 AM: Flashy as in better quality. Obviously if you could make such good animations, you could realize your comics need to look better than the quality that they are now. But you didn't make em, so you probably don't know how to make the text boxes better.

And remove that "yeah! I made this!" thing from your sig. It sickens me.
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Post by: Mikado on November 20, 2004, 12:45:02 AM: hopefully it will kill you and all who oppose my sig! and again there is such things as a good *** animater and a crappy comic maker!
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Post by: Mikado on November 21, 2004, 03:15:45 AM: i made this little quick fight (http://img95.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img95&image=QuickFighte.gif)
and this has nothing to do with us! but i just thought it was kool! i made it off of a program i used one newgrounds! (http://img91.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img91&image=Payne.png)
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Post by: Revolution911 on November 21, 2004, 03:24:53 AM: its not abput being good at making comic. if u could make that, u would know how to atleast make a good textbox. but no. u put a white box with words in it or just words. like u did in "your" comics from bd sprites. and i just found something out, those comics were there WAY before u posted them yet u stated that u "just made them"
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Post by: Osmose on November 21, 2004, 03:30:38 AM: Quote
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hopefully it will kill you and all who oppose my sig! and again there is such things as a good *** animater and a crappy comic maker!

The problem is, we KNOW you didn't make your sig. It was made by someone else a long time ago. And it's not that there can be good animators and bad comic makers. It's that the image quality in those animations was way better than in your comics.

If you WERE a good animator, you'd know that those animations are just a bunch of still images run together. So, to animate, one must be good at making good looking still images. And if you were good at making still images, the quality in your comics would be better.

Can't you just admit you're wrong? We all know that your faking by stealing other people's work. That makes you the lowest scum on the internet.
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Post by: Mikado on November 21, 2004, 06:34:35 AM: first off! i'm not stealing, again there can be good animators and bad comic makers! and! if you remember my very first post i made! u would obviously tell that i editted off of flame of recca! kew word....EDIT! so obviously there are more sprites of recca to edit off of! i kno they are still images but i use still images and edit them as i go along with my progress! god what is it with you and your emotions of the textboxes? eh eh? and the sig my friend told me to edit and put more stuff in! (like the shading,sword clash, and that ball thing!) making it mine!
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Post by: Osmose on November 21, 2004, 07:06:24 AM: THAT'S NOT WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT! We know that you took those sprites from a game! We're not talking about those, we're talking about the comic itself! You didn't make ANY of that comic, someone else did, and you are using their comic and claiming it as your own, even though you didn't make it.

If you had read my post, you'd see that the good animator/bad comic thing has already been disproven. I'll say it again - an animated gif is a series of still images. If you had the skill to make an animation of THAT QUALITY, AKA MAKING A SERIES OF STILL IMAGES OF GOOD QUALITY, then you would be able to make your comics, AKA A SERIES OF STILL IMAGES LAYED OUT SIDE BY SIDE, better!

And NO, you didn't add the ball OR the shading, those were in the origional. WE KNOW THAT YOU ARE A THIEF AND A POSER! NO ONE BELIEVES YOU, SO STOP CLAIMING THAT YOU ARE MAKING THESE! THIS ISN'T ABOUT THE TEXT BOXES, THIS IS ABOUT YOU STEALING OTHER PEOPLE'S WORK AND SAYING THAT YOU MADE IT!
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Post by: Mikado on November 21, 2004, 03:04:10 PM: ir you read before again i stated that my cuzin and i made those comics from bd sprites, bd sprites was a site made long ago! and there wasn't enough shading in the original, or the ball, you called me infamouse for something osmose, what was it? i already know you dislike me so i might be famouse for something so please tell me what is it?
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Post by: Mikado on November 21, 2004, 03:27:54 PM: (http://img72.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img72&image=Kool.gif)
enjoy!
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Post by: Osmose on November 21, 2004, 04:31:29 PM: Calling you infamous was just an intro to talk to you on aim - you won't answer back though. Scared?

Answer this question - Why is it that one minute you're saying how you made those sonic-MK animations, but then you churn out these crappy stick fights that are both choppy and ugly? Why is it that, assuming you did make the animations, that you can't make some parts of your comic look better(do not say "There can be good animators and bad comic makers!" because, I say FOR THE THIRD TIME, an animator has enough skill in the graphics department to make a simple little comic have a bit more quality). Why is it that you claim to have made that Kenshin animation, claim to have made the ball, the sword flashes, the shading, etc. and now you have lowered your claim to just making the ball and shading?

What is it that makes understanding that we KNOW, beyond a shadow of a doubt, that you did not make that Kenshin animation, so hard? Not ANY of it?

Respond to my AIM requests.
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Post by: Mikado on November 21, 2004, 05:10:44 PM: LOOK! i know i'm a horrible comic maker which is why i beg for critisims to make it better! telling me that they just suck duzn't make it any better! the stick figure i suck! i kno but i told you this before i made it off this program called pivot stick figure animator! (i'm still practicing on it!) and now i don't care what you think of my sig all i need to know is that i made that and thats what i am going to belive weither you like it or not
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Post by: Red Giant on November 21, 2004, 06:02:57 PM: We all know you didnt animate those, ok? You arent fooling anybody. Just admit it and we can all get this out of the way and move on. Or pretend you did make them, and this topic can go to hell and most probably end up being locked.

EDIT: And putting "Yea, I made this!" next to the stolen animation does NOT make it more convincing.
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Post by: Revolution911 on November 21, 2004, 06:44:55 PM: its not about making GOOD comics. its about making them atleast LOOK good. u obviously didnt make any animations u posted BUT the stick figure ones. and u have yet to answer many of osmoses questions
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Post by: Mikado on November 21, 2004, 10:44:32 PM: i'm not caring what any of you are saying because you'll just say the same thing over and over again, i don't care what you think! as long as i know i did it then i'm proud
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Post by: Osmose on November 22, 2004, 10:40:50 AM: Fine. Live in your own happy little world, where you think you can fool everyone.

*walks away*
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Post by: Ryoshin on November 22, 2004, 12:24:55 PM: Quote
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this is another sprite image thing i've been working on check it out!

Now I say it: YOU ARE A ****ing IDIOT. THOSE SPRITES ARE NOT YOURS! THEY'RE BY INNERSHADE! IF YOU THINK WE'RE STUPID OR SOMETHING, YOU'RE WRONG. IT IS THE BEST FOR YOU TO GET THE HELL OUT OF CHARAS AND NEVER RETURN.

AND YOU USED CUSTOM SPRITES, GODDAMNIT! AND I DOUBT YOU GAVE CREDIT TO THE ORIGINAL CREATOR.
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Post by: Revolution911 on November 22, 2004, 10:20:17 PM: busted......bigtime
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Post by: Osmose on November 22, 2004, 10:33:42 PM: Knowing him he'll say InnerShade is his cousin and that he helped.
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Post by: recycledshame on November 25, 2004, 10:08:28 PM: Dude. mikado whatever your name is you're a little punk. first you steal peoples work and claim it as your own then you say this...

mikado says:
so i have a violent intent....this is my way of releasing anger, if not then i go to kicking the **** out of people until they are not capable of moving

yeah right your probably some little buckedtooth mama's boy sitting in your underwear in front of your computer flogging the bishop while listening to brittany spears. You've probably never been in a fight in your entire life. Man just find some one else to screw with go to a chat room or something and leave these nice people alone.
Later.
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Post by: Master E on February 11, 2005, 12:51:27 AM: Ok, i dont know much about sprite making n stuff but i must say, an all time low to me is when ppl dont give credit to the original creators. So, if you are HONESTLY making those from scratch great job, but if your just editing those or w/e the hell your doin without givin credit to the creator i have no respect for you.

thanks for your time.
MEH
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Post by: WarxePB on February 11, 2005, 12:53:12 AM: Master E, please stop kicking topics. Read the date of the last post before you post in them. If it's over a couple weeks old, don't post in it.