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Off-Topic => All of all! => Topic started by: Almeidaboo on February 27, 2005, 10:42:34 PM

Title: Games keep letting me down...
Post by: Almeidaboo on February 27, 2005, 10:42:34 PM

This time it was Suikoden IV (just finished it, in 38 hours*)...Ack, the game was so sudden,  so obvious, so shallow....I can say that the battles were very good, even though we do not have the six-men-party as in S1 S2 and S3...Aw man, c´mon, this wave of bad rpg´s has GOT to stop...

Anyone´s played it? Anyone has anything to say about these crimes that have been pulled against us, RPG fans?

*BTW, I only did it in 38 hours cuz I leveled up a LOT. I could have done it in 20 hours easily, LOL....

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Post by: wildguy3922 on February 27, 2005, 11:01:55 PM

I'm still on Suikoden 3, lol.

P.S.
Your sig is messed up.

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Post by: barnsalot on February 27, 2005, 11:11:33 PM

I just started Suikoden IV yesterday and I can't really say I'm impressed. Some of the areas seemed far too open and under-detailed, the game just lacked a sense of polish and detail.

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Post by: blaze_shinigami on February 27, 2005, 11:14:04 PM

i cant find 3 anymore to buy it so i don't wanna get 4 yet

is there a connection like the first two betwee 3 & 4

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Post by: Almeidaboo on February 27, 2005, 11:20:31 PM

Actually, 4 is 150 years before 1....IF you have played Suiko 1 you´ll know about that...actually you might not, cuz it depends on sume actions....aw man, I can´t explain it cuz it´ll spoil the game if you ever play it...
I can say in is disappointing, but worth playing...it had an bad production...the fighting system pleases me...and the sea enviroment is an interesting "try"....course it didn´t work out huh...

My sig´s messed up? But is it just a phrase...aw man, Jesus got mad at me!

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Post by: Grandy on February 27, 2005, 11:27:56 PM

 I still in Suikoden 2 and I didnt play the first one yet, I think suikoden 4 is 3-D? Thats the problem, sprites are MUCH bettah, just look to the older Super Mario World, and the new 3-D mario series, same with sonic series, I have more fun with the classic-looking games. Thats because now they are making games with better graphics and less funny things, they forgot what a game should be like, it should be fun

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Post by: InsaneJP on February 27, 2005, 11:57:42 PM

I started playing 4 but im still playin ....shin megami tensei: Nocturne!! (another rpg)

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Post by: Darkfox on February 28, 2005, 12:01:31 AM

 

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shin megami tensei: Nocturne!!

MEGATEN! *drools*

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Post by: Almeidaboo on February 28, 2005, 12:23:13 AM

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Originally posted by Grandy
I still in Suikoden 2 and I didnt play the first one yet, I think suikoden 4 is 3-D? Thats the problem, sprites are MUCH bettah, just look to the older Super Mario World, and the new 3-D mario series, same with sonic series, I have more fun with the classic-looking games. Thats because now they are making games with better graphics and less funny things, they forgot what a game should be like, it should be fun

I actually think that it is possible to put graphic and entertainment together...BUT, if things remain going the way they are, I gotta agree with you: let´s go back to  low quality graphics and good quality storyline/characters/battle system...

BTW, everyone thought that Suikoden 1 was the worse (cuz everyone starts with suiko 2) before suiko 4 was released...Suiko 1 is the root of all, one of the best RPGs EVER...

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Post by: DragonBlaze on February 28, 2005, 02:20:14 AM

Hmm never played any of the suikoden games, what systems are they for? I may go download.. err I mean buy em.

Right now I'm working on going through star ocean 2, but now that I'm getting close to the end (I think), I don't like it too much  _sweat_

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Post by: Revolution911 on February 28, 2005, 02:57:53 AM

i rarely even play rpgs to be honest. im playing shadow of rome at the moment,

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Post by: Almeidaboo on February 28, 2005, 04:09:05 PM

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Originally posted by DragonBlaze
Hmm never played any of the suikoden games, what systems are they for? I may go download.. err I mean buy em.

Right now I'm working on going through star ocean 2, but now that I'm getting close to the end (I think), I don't like it too much  _sweat_

It´s an excelent system (suiko 1 and 2) in which you fight with 6 characters in your party, characters that can use long, short and medium ranges weapons. Short can only be in the front line, medium can be anywhere and the same for long ranged characters...It changes a bit in Suiko 3 and 4.

The main theme is based on a chinese tale that a hero gathers 108 stars of destiny to battle a evil of some kind....That means the game has 108 different playable characters, and you can get them all, or not. The game emphatizes Empire wars, not aliens and such idiotic stuff...Plus the story´s feature a Rune that chooses the hero and give him the power to change his fate....it is usually a cursed rune and stuff like that....

It´s my fav series after Final Fantasy...It is really worth buying, but d/ling is ok too...

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Post by: Grandy on February 28, 2005, 04:26:23 PM

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Originally posted by DragonBlaze Hmm never played any of the suikoden games, what systems are they for? I may go download.. err I mean buy em. Right now I'm working on going through star ocean 2, but now that I'm getting close to the end (I think), I don't like it too much  _sweat_

It´s an excelent system (suiko 1 and 2) in which you fight with 6 characters in your party, characters that can use long, short and medium ranges weapons. Short can only be in the front line, medium can be anywhere and the same for long ranged characters...It changes a bit in Suiko 3 and 4.

The main theme is based on a chinese tale that a hero gathers 108 stars of destiny to battle a evil of some kind....That means the game has 108 different playable characters, and you can get them all, or not. The game emphatizes Empire wars, not aliens and such idiotic stuff...Plus the story´s feature a Rune that chooses the hero and give him the power to change his fate....it is usually a cursed rune and stuff like that....

It´s my fav series after Final Fantasy...It is really worth buying, but d/ling is ok too...

 And you forgot to say that there also a blacksmith system to make your weapons more powerful, and you can put magic in the weapons as well, and you can buy magic, but can't buy new weapons, the runes aren't cursed, just... the heros have bad luck, thats all, that plus the fact they don't want to fight....

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Post by: DragonBlaze on March 01, 2005, 12:15:33 AM

Wow, that dose sound pretty cool. I only download games if they're not avalible for me to buy. Since this series allready has 5 games, I'm guessing the first one is for the snes or sega. If thats the case, its not really going to be possible for me to buy from any store.

108 characters!? I thought chrono cross had a lot...

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Post by: Grandy on March 01, 2005, 12:23:10 AM

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Wow, that dose sound pretty cool. I only download games if they're not avalible for me to buy. Since this series allready has 5 games, I'm guessing the first one is for the snes or sega. If thats the case, its not really going to be possible for me to buy from any store.

108 characters!? I thought chrono cross had a lot...

 I think the first one is for playstation, but I never found, so I dunno.
 and there are 108 characters, but some of then arent playabe, just like do runes for ya or sharpen your weapons or open minigames

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Post by: Snake Eater on March 01, 2005, 12:24:43 AM

MGS 3 owns all your games.

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Post by: Almeidaboo on March 01, 2005, 04:15:18 PM

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And you forgot to say that there also a blacksmith system to make your weapons more powerful, and you can put magic in the weapons as well, and you can buy magic, but can't buy new weapons, the runes aren't cursed, just... the heros have bad luck, thats all, that plus the fact they don't want to fight....

Yeah, I forgot those! Thanks man!
Suikoden 1 is for Playstation, and it was one of the first RPGs I´ve ever played. Suiko1 rules, Suiko2 rules, Suiko3 very good and Suiko4 is good...You shouldn´t miss this series...AND it´s soundtrack, that rules too.

Yeah Snake Eater, MGS rules! Actually, Solid Snake rules...Everytime I play a MSG I think: Man I wanted to be cool like this...

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Post by: Grandy on March 01, 2005, 04:19:56 PM

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Originally posted by Grandy And you forgot to say that there also a blacksmith system to make your weapons more powerful, and you can put magic in the weapons as well, and you can buy magic, but can't buy new weapons, the runes aren't cursed, just... the heros have bad luck, thats all, that plus the fact they don't want to fight....

Yeah, I forgot those! Thanks man!
Suikoden 1 is for Playstation, and it was one of the first RPGs I´ve ever played. Suiko1 rules, Suiko2 rules, Suiko3 very good and Suiko4 is good...You shouldn´t miss this series...AND it´s soundtrack, that rules too.

Yeah Snake Eater, MGS rules! Actually, Solid Snake rules...Everytime I play a MSG I think: Man I wanted to be cool like this...

 You're welcome, AND I too forgot to say about the sountrack, its the best soundtrack I've ever saw! But the beswt song I can't hear, because the American version cut out this song, its Annale's Theme, theres a midi of it in the complete resources

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Post by: True Evil on March 01, 2005, 05:23:35 PM

All games today have too many problems, like I just bought Prince of Persia the other day and beat it in 8 & 1/2 hours! It was a great game with some tricky puzzles but its too short! Game makers cant seem to find their edge anymore... *sigh*

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Post by: Red Giant on March 01, 2005, 07:38:21 PM

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All games today have too many problems, like I just bought Prince of Persia the other day and beat it in 8 & 1/2 hours! It was a great game with some tricky puzzles but its too short! Game makers cant seem to find their edge anymore... *sigh*

Or maybe it's because of deadline. Lets say, for the sake of example, that every game has a 1 year deadline to make a game, from start.
If it was a game for the snes, you could get some guys to whip up some sprite graphics, backgrounds and simple music in about a month, with the rest of the time spare to focus on the game.
With one of our generation games, however, more time must be spent on graphics, physics, music etc., but people don't like to wait longer.

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Post by: Leon_1990 on March 01, 2005, 07:44:00 PM

The games they make now are just getting worse, I dont care about thier deadlines.
usually they push back the realease dates,. and the games still crap!!!, what happened to the good ol' Skies of arcadia,Grandia1 and 2, and chrono trigger level of quality, you don't get that anymore :(

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Post by: DragonBlaze on March 02, 2005, 01:20:29 AM

Well the more time they spend making a game, the more money it costs the company to make it. What they should do is start working on the actual game before they even have the graphics made, using quickly made temperary graphics in their place. When the actual graphics and stuff is made, it would be easy to insert them in place of the old ones. That way they'd get a big head start on the programming aspect of the game, and they can work on making the actual story and gameplay good. Who knows though, they might allready be doing this  :p

I haven't even played a good rpg game for the ps2, the only one that was decent was FFX, but I wasn't too impressed. I guess rpgs are a thing of the past  :(.

The best system for rpgs is the psx. It has the final fantasy games, chrono cross, breath of fire games, vandel hearts, vanguard bandits, star ocean: the second story, and much more, plus there were remakes of a lot of games on the playstation such as chrono trigger, ff 1, 2, 4, 5, 6.

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Post by: WarxePB on March 02, 2005, 01:34:08 AM

The only good RPGs that I can remember playing on the new-age consoles are Kingdom Hearts and Tales of Symphonia. They both had great graphics and some unique gameplay and story ideas, but they were just not as good as some of the old RPGs on the SNES and PSX.

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Post by: Snake Eater on March 02, 2005, 02:08:59 AM

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I was playing Zelda: A link to the past while many of you were still in your father's nut sack.

Erm...I'm only 13( and one of the youngest members) and I've played that since it came out.

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Post by: Revolution911 on March 02, 2005, 02:53:29 AM

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Originally posted by Lord Raffles
I was playing Zelda: A link to the past while many of you were still in your father's nut sack.

.......great.....stick with the classics i say.....