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Off-Topic => Archive => Old Game Discussion => Topic started by: Secret Box on April 04, 2005, 01:27:02 AM

Title: Kingdom Savior
Post by: Secret Box on April 04, 2005, 01:27:02 AM

I've been working on this for about a year! I don't stop working on it. It is made on RPGMaker 2000. It is about a king that must save his kingdom and the rest of the world by getting and bringing back six orbs. It is pretty long and I will need testers.
I am willing to e-mail it to anyone who will test!

Title: good game
Post by: Crazyflip423 on April 04, 2005, 01:31:13 AM

I like the sound of that game, but how is it different from other games about kingdoms. It seems kind of the same you know? Anyway, I can bet that
1. there is a desert level
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2. you fly in an airship somewhere in the game

Well, you might also want to tell us more about the characters and their personalities. Plus, you should show some screenshots of your game to give us an idea of how much effort you put into your game in a years time.

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Post by: VulcanRaven336 on April 04, 2005, 01:33:07 AM

I wanna test it!
E-mail it to me:)

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Post by: blackskullwarlock on April 04, 2005, 01:34:36 AM

That's cliché a lot but it should be fun if you ask me.

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Post by: Secret Box on April 04, 2005, 09:19:25 PM

I don't know how to take a screenshot!
Can anyone tell me... ?

Anyway, aside from that I need to know when vulcanraven336 will be on AIM, so I can send it to him, because I can't install Microsoft outlook.

I NEED MORE TESTERS!

Also Here are some of the characters:

Nick-(Main Character) Strong King that has to gather six Orbs by the dawn of the 8th day or his kingdom and the world is doomed!

Peter-Nick finds Peter in his castle and he just Follows Nick around. Peters funny and isn't very seriousat times.

Pat-A Dark magician that fights with his fists. Nick let's him trail along after he helps him and Peter after the first dungeon.

Victor-An old Friend of the king's. Nick and Victor were friends as kids so Victor comes along when they meet in a distant town.

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Title: sorry
Post by: Secret Box on April 04, 2005, 09:22:45 PM

Sorry, I didn't mean to make all those null things on the botttom of my last post.

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Post by: Linkforce on April 04, 2005, 09:34:42 PM

sure ill test it as well.  :D

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Post by: Secret Box on April 04, 2005, 09:38:45 PM

can anyone tell me how I can send the demo?

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Post by: AsakuraHao2004 on April 04, 2005, 09:39:33 PM

To make a screen shot, press teh "Print Screen" button on your keyboard while the game is playing. It will capture whatever's happening in the game at that time. Then open up a image editor and click paste. Simple.

 (J)

Edit: To send a demo, you could upload it to a file site such as freewebs or sitesled, and post the URL

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Post by: Secret Box on April 05, 2005, 01:04:07 AM

Thanx

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Post by: Secret Box on April 05, 2005, 01:09:42 AM

In order to put my game on a freewebs site I have to be a premium user and that costs money!

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Post by: chocobomaster09 on April 05, 2005, 01:28:22 AM

email it to ppl then, very easy!!

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Post by: lan-the phoenix holder on April 05, 2005, 01:29:31 AM

ok i will test

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Post by: Secret Box on April 05, 2005, 02:00:09 AM

do you have a screen name on yahoo or something? :|

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Post by: Secret Box on April 05, 2005, 09:51:01 AM

Do any of you have RPG Maker 2003 or know where I can get it because all I have is 2000. :(

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Post by: Osmose on April 05, 2005, 10:41:21 AM

We're not allowed to give links. RM2K3 isn't that much of an improvement anyway.

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Post by: Secret Box on April 05, 2005, 09:31:13 PM

thanks anyway, do you know where I can get it?

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Post by: lan-the phoenix holder on April 05, 2005, 09:37:52 PM

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Originally posted by Secret Box
do you have a screen name on yahoo or something? :|

i don't on yahoo i don't even have a e-mail adress but my dad does just pm me and i will give u details back to the topic do u have the demo done

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Post by: Secret Box on April 05, 2005, 10:45:12 PM

if anyone else wants the game so far then you'll have to PM me your screen name and what it's to(ex. Yahoo, Hotmail)

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Post by: Solid on April 05, 2005, 11:09:09 PM

Im too busy with my own game to test some game but looks liek you have numberous tester allready so you wouldnt need me.
One tip is, try adding unque things in your game. Maybe a cms/cbs or something we havent seen before.

Maybe a lot of options? And interactivity is alwais nice.
Surprise us all!

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Post by: Secret Box on April 06, 2005, 12:27:23 AM

thanks for the ideas!

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Post by: Solid on April 06, 2005, 06:10:18 AM

No problem, a pleasure

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Post by: Dragonium on April 06, 2005, 11:15:17 AM

If it's your first proper RPG, I wouldn't recommend you work too hard on a CBS or CMS. I'm not doing a CBS or CMS anyway, I'm not too keen on them. They don't in my mind make a game any better, just more technical.

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Post by: Secret Box on April 06, 2005, 06:51:36 PM

ok thanks

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Post by: Secret Box on April 06, 2005, 06:57:18 PM

Can anyone get me a good chipset that is for inside a castle,
preferably a kings castle?

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Post by: Dragonium on April 06, 2005, 07:08:19 PM

Copy into your URL bar and take your pick:

http://www.blade2k.net/resources/Chip_Sets/i/page/2/

PS. What's your MSN address? I'm gonna see if I can get my Messenger working and if you can send me the game. I'm dragonium@hotmail.co.uk, BTW.

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Post by: Leon_1990 on April 06, 2005, 07:11:10 PM

hmmmm i wonder who u got that site from......

howz the game comin along secretbox ;)

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Post by: Secret Box on April 06, 2005, 07:23:29 PM

pretty good actually.
if you still wanna test it so far you can PM me your email adress
thanks for asking!

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Post by: Leon_1990 on April 06, 2005, 07:24:11 PM

kl ill test it then I PMd my hotmail

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Post by: Secret Box on April 06, 2005, 07:27:44 PM

thanks for the site too!

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Post by: Leon_1990 on April 06, 2005, 07:39:07 PM

Yo secretBox!!!
u need 2 scan ur computer m8, cos there was a virus on that .zip!
msn couldn't cure it....
and I was lookin' 4ward 2 tht :(

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Post by: Secret Box on April 06, 2005, 07:40:03 PM

srry I'll try again!

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Post by: Leon_1990 on April 06, 2005, 08:00:07 PM

Nope, MSN aint lettin it through....
can u host it on a site and post the link?

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Post by: Dragonium on April 06, 2005, 08:08:18 PM

Hotmail sure is strict with files you get... :(

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Post by: Solid on April 06, 2005, 08:08:19 PM

A virus? arrrr I hate thoes things!

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Post by: Secret Box on April 06, 2005, 08:10:30 PM

I'm trying to put it on a site now can anyone tell me how to make your signiture a picture because I've tryed everything!

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Post by: AsakuraHao2004 on April 06, 2005, 08:12:12 PM

Well, I just finished the "demo" and here's the things I found wrong:

-First and foremost, WAY too much RTP.

-Hero started out on the wrong map.

-Once I put the hero on the right starting map, I saw that you STOLE Don Miguel's simple intro! Seriously, it is NOT wise to steal something like that, especially when 90% of everyone has seen it.

-Speaking of intro's, yours lacked a set up and proper background story. We have no idea who this guy is and no eplination of why he's prince and he simply hangs out with the first guy that attacks him.

-Peter, as the first boss I presume, has WAY too much HP and not enough attack power. However, when he joins your party, he suddenly gets about as strong as you.

-You shouldn't have let the guy leave the castle until AFTER he was told about the orb things.

-The orb things and the world ending came suddenly out of nowhere with no real story behind it.

-I don't wanna say the maps suck, but they kinda do..

-Hey, a plane outta nowhere! Convenient!

-Game freezes after beating Golem because you put an event to move the hero where he can't go.

-Entering Scultron teleports you into the side of a cliff.

-The Scultron cave flat out sucks. You just kep walking downwards and fight a few monsters.

-Also, I'd have the Lava monster (who's insanely hard, btw) tell them he hid the orb AFTER the fight.
EDIT: I played through some more, and it might make more sense to keep it as it is. Either way would work, really.

-Teleporting to the airship from the cave teleports you to like the side of the airship.

-There are some MAJOR problems in Suton city concerning finding the lost children. First time you talk to the guy he'll tell you to find his children, you can't teleport to the forest ro the tower, and if you go back and talk to him again, he thanks you for saving his kids.
-EDIT: It seems that when you talk to the girl, she dosen't change anything. That's why.

-The part of the log you need to saw's event is "below hero". No one is ever going to get past it unless you change it to "same level as hero"

-You get an air badge right before talking to the airship guy, as well as after cutting the log. I reccomend getting rid of one of them.

-NPCs move way too slow.

-Uhh.. after getting the first orb, you can fly back up to that place and put 5 orbs on the posts. If I were you, I wouldnt have put that plane on the other side of the lake.
EDIT: After getting ANY number of orbs, you can place 5 on their posts. I've tried while having any given number up to 4.

-Most bosses are too hard for the heroes current level.

You said you were 90% done in your email. The farthest I got was to Scultron (after flying back after defeating the lava monster). That is where you stopped, right, because that's as far as the game seemed to let me go. At this time, I had 4 orbs and 4 party members.

In no way have I meant to offend you by telling you the things I don't like about this game. In fact, quite the opposite, I'm trying to help. I can understand the lack of qraphics quality and story because you seem to be a newbie to some aspects of RM2k, however, you seem to have a good understanding of switches and game elements of an RPG. This game definatly has potential. Overall, I don't think it would ever be able to be an epic, because it is pretty cliched, but I definatly think you can polish it into being a very nice RPG.

Some things that would make this better:

-For 1, use more custom graphics (or at least more non-RTP).

-Second, the monsters-namingly the bosses-were WAY too hard, unless you're trying to go for a Dragon Warrior 7 type thing, were you have to fight weak monsters for hours and hours to level up. I'll be honest, I cheated and made all my characters max level while playing through because the bosses were so annoyingly hard.

-Third, I URGE you to make your own introduction scene. If you need help, I'd be happy to help you out with coding one.

-Foruth (and this sort of ties in with the third) come up with a story! I mean, it basically starts out of nowhere! You could incorperate the story into the intro, if you wish to go that route. But the game just seems lacking without a story.

-Fifth, and I belive this will be my last bit of advice, try working on customizing your boss battles. Even monsters. Try to make them challenging, but not insanely hard. Say toyouself "What level should my charcters be at this point in the game?" Then make a boss that they would be able to beat (Maybe with the use of a few potions if needed) but not unbelievably hard.

SaiKar's boss battle tutorial can help you out as well. You can find it  here. (http://charas-project.net/forum/showthread.php?threadid=6755&forumid=29&catid=6)

I hope I have been of some help. I'm not saying the game's bad. Not at all. I just think there's room for a lot of improvement. If you ever need help with anything, feel free to ask me.

With that, I bid you good luck.

 :bend:

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Post by: Leon_1990 on April 06, 2005, 08:16:52 PM

lol thts alot 2 say asakura :D

get an account at photobucket.com or something secretbox and upload the sig there, then paste the image url into ur profile ;)

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Post by: Secret Box on April 06, 2005, 08:23:57 PM

most of the things you said worked on mine.
I'm not calling you a liar, I'm just saying that itcould of gotten changed when I sent it or compressed it.

you didn't offend me at all.
this is what tests are for.
thanks for all the advice!

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Post by: Secret Box on April 06, 2005, 08:25:37 PM

oh..
I never tried pasting the url
thanks! :)

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Post by: Leon_1990 on April 06, 2005, 08:27:36 PM

u no wts comin next :
nae problem

oh btw, its the 3rd box tht u copy from secretbox

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Post by: Secret Box on April 06, 2005, 08:38:03 PM

can you say that again in english

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Post by: Leon_1990 on April 06, 2005, 08:42:38 PM

wt? lol soz if am tokin scots.
on photobucket, where it shows the picture, copy the 3rd
url...

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Post by: Secret Box on April 06, 2005, 08:46:04 PM

ok thanks

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Post by: Secret Box on April 06, 2005, 08:57:11 PM

for some strange reason it's still not working!

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Post by: Leon_1990 on April 06, 2005, 08:58:50 PM

right..I'm stumped...

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Post by: Solid on April 07, 2005, 12:06:52 PM

You have to click "profile" then click "Options" and where the big box is paste it in. then "SAVE" it

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Post by: Secret Box on April 07, 2005, 06:47:28 PM

how do you "save" it?

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Post by: Secret Box on April 07, 2005, 09:09:29 PM

AsakuraHao2004,
   Thanks, some of the stuff you mentioned was true. I made silly mistakes. I know that there isn't much of a storyline at the beginning, but you didn't get to whereI was at! there still is a while to go that you didn't get to yet! After you get the fifth orb in scultron city you have to go back to your throne! the story fits into pace there!

I'm not saying I'm not saying I'm perfect, In fact I am a newb.

Can you tell me how to use variables? I can't figure it out and I've been trying for almost a year!

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Post by: AsakuraHao2004 on April 07, 2005, 10:35:52 PM

At least there wasn't a lot of spelling errors. I didn't know you were supposed to go back, so maybe one of the party memners should suggets that?

Well, anyways, I'll explain variables to the best of my ability.

Variables work by storing numbers. They work a lot like switches, expect instead of 2 ways to activate them (On or off) they have -999999 to 999999 different ways to activate them. -999999 to 999999 adds up to 1999998. So 1 variable can hold almost 2 million different events.

However, the most practical uses won't use 2 million outcomes. Infact, most times people will only use a maximum of 5 outcomes per variable.

The number itself can be added to, subtracted from, multiplied, divided, set to a specific number, or randomly selected by the game. I'll use some examples to try and make this easier.

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Random item from a chest
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All you have to do is have a basic understanding of switches, variables, and fork conditions. In the event commands, go to "Chose variable", then check "one" and make a new varible. For this example, I'll call it "chest". Then go to "set" and chose "set". Then, under operand check "Rand." Set the first number to 1 and the second number to however many different items you might get. I'll use 5. Click "ok"

Now make a fork condition: If variable "chest", set "1", no else case. Inside the fork, put an "Add Item, 1 potion"

Underneath that fork, make another fork using the same options, but set it to 2. Inside that fork, "Add Item, 1 Phoenix Down"

Keep on like that, changing the number by 1 each time and using a different item, until you've made 5.

The best way to end this is with a switch. At the end of the event commands, use a switch to end this event.
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Here's an even simpler example, of an old man who tells you how many of something you have. Because it ties into your game, I'll use orbs.

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Events and # of items
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First of all make an event of the person who will tell you how many orbs you have so far. You should make a new variable called "orbs". In the event commands make a fork condition: If variable "orbs", set "0", no else case. Inside the fork, put something like "Show Message: You don't have any orbs yet."

Underneath that fork, make another fork using the same options, but set it to 1. Inside that fork, "Show Message: You have 1 orb so far."

And so on, until you have for all 6.

Now, this is a 2 part thing, and part 1 was the hard part.

Now, go to the events that give you an orb. Underneath the "Add item, Orb" command, change variable "orbs" to whichever orb you just got. It would look like this:

Add item, Orb 3
Set variable "Orbs" to 3.
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I tried to explain it as easily as I could. If you still don't understand just tell me.

Hmm... I think I'll polish this up a bit and write a variables tutorial. *goes off*

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Post by: Secret Box on April 08, 2005, 09:26:30 AM

My mother's not letting me on the comp for a few days so I might only be able to go on in the morning.
        :(

Thanks for the help with variables I finaly get them now!
the "help" section of rm2k isn't that descriptive and doesn't give examples!
you described it so good. maybe you should make a forum of it!

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Post by: AsakuraHao2004 on April 08, 2005, 06:17:14 PM

I did make a tutorial, which you can look at  here. (http://charas-project.net/forum/showthread.php?threadid=10095&forumid=29&catid=6)

Title: Yay
Post by: Secret Box on April 09, 2005, 12:16:59 AM

I'm back. For some reason I was able to make her forget I was punished!
I do have an awsome(custom) intro cutscene which puts everything in place! I still have to think of the end cutscene though,
 any ideas.

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Post by: Secret Box on April 09, 2005, 11:00:08 PM

can anyone get me a monster of a professor that has armor on and has white hair.
sorry, I'm picky :)

Title: friend
Post by: axeraider22 on April 10, 2005, 06:07:05 PM

hey i'm a friend of xtreme gamer the charector pete is named and done after me. i help with the storyline and charector buildin. but i'm on a cruise right now so 1 question. HOW CAN I PLAY THIS GAME THAT I HAVE BEEN HELPIN WITH FOR A YEAR!?!?!?!?....oh nick i have an idea we can m,ake a cruise part of the game and then we can really biuld charectors because there is so much space and privacy .we can really let the charectors talk to eachother and learn about them!!!!

p.s i have my charectors backround al;l figured out i'll work on pats and vics

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Post by: dart336 on April 10, 2005, 07:55:03 PM

 [GLOW]when do you think it is going to be done?[/GLOW]  :para:

Title: story line
Post by: axeraider22 on April 11, 2005, 03:10:34 PM

hey xtreme it's pete again and i got storylines for me and pat k.
i'll e-mail them 2 u.

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Post by: Secret Box on April 11, 2005, 05:46:01 PM

I'm not sure when it'll be done,
all I have to do is make a beginning and end cutscene though

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Post by: dart336 on April 12, 2005, 01:39:48 AM

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Originally posted by Secret Box
I'm not sure when it'll be done,
all I have to do is make a beginning and end cutscene though

lets say may-july do you think its go to be close to finshed

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Post by: Secret Box on April 12, 2005, 01:44:04 AM

yeah, probably.
maybe even sooner

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Post by: dart336 on April 12, 2005, 01:48:01 AM

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Originally posted by Secret Box
yeah, probably.
maybe even sooner

[STRIKE]do you have screen shots?[/STRIKE]

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Post by: Secret Box on April 12, 2005, 01:52:50 AM

I can't take screen shots because i don't know how to with a laptop keyboard!

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Post by: dart336 on April 12, 2005, 01:56:58 AM

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I can't take screen shots because i don't know how to with a laptop keyboard!

I'm bad with the computer,so do you have demo :mrT:

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Post by: Secret Box on April 12, 2005, 02:04:08 AM

I don't have a demo but I'm really close to finishing the game so i don't think i'll need one

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Post by: dart336 on April 12, 2005, 02:10:19 AM

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Originally posted by Secret Box
I don't have a demo but I'm really close to finishing the game so i don't think i'll need one

hey secret box do you know what you need to do is. :para:

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Post by: Secret Box on April 12, 2005, 02:11:49 AM

what?

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Post by: dart336 on April 12, 2005, 02:13:26 AM

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what?

pay,beat up or blackmail the computer geeks at your shcool

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Post by: Secret Box on April 12, 2005, 02:15:08 AM

I don't understand what your saying?

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Post by: dart336 on April 12, 2005, 02:17:40 AM

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I don't understand what your saying?

force them to do the work for you.  :smoke:

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Post by: Secret Box on April 12, 2005, 02:24:09 AM

lol
I don't think so

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Post by: dart336 on April 12, 2005, 02:26:06 AM

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lol
I don't think so

why not it will make it go faster.

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Post by: Secret Box on April 13, 2005, 12:18:11 AM

srry, i stopped workin on it for a day cause i got face maker pl and i been makin faces like crazy!

    thanks,      
            MariaMS

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Post by: axeraider22 on April 13, 2005, 03:40:04 PM

no offense but xtreme aint the stongest person. he couldn't beat himself up
 :D

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Post by: Secret Box on April 13, 2005, 04:55:20 PM

HEY, i resent that!!!!

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Post by: Secret Box on April 14, 2005, 02:04:05 AM

it's done!

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Post by: Secret Box on April 14, 2005, 03:11:00 PM

THE GAME IS FINALLY DONE!
I will need some testers!
here are some more screenshots!


this desert map is only empty here and it is a big map!

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Post by: Secret Box on April 14, 2005, 10:58:16 PM

is any one there?
some one can post and tell me when they want the game whenever they want!

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Post by: dart336 on April 16, 2005, 02:29:18 AM

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Originally posted by Secret Box
is any one there?
some one can post and tell me when they want the game whenever they want!

pick me pick me pick me
pick me lol.I will play it

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Post by: Secret Box on April 16, 2005, 12:07:24 PM

good, it feels good to know there is still someone out there!
your gonna have to tell me your email adress!

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Post by: ZeroKirbyX on April 16, 2005, 11:42:24 PM

Hey man, I wouldn't mind trying it out. My email is biotoad11@msn.com

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Post by: Leon_1990 on April 17, 2005, 01:04:46 AM

Send it 2 Leon_1990@hotmail.co.uk .....

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Post by: Secret Box on April 17, 2005, 01:53:08 AM

i don't kno how i can send it because it is too big to be attached to an email!

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Post by: dart336 on April 18, 2005, 03:19:36 AM

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i don't kno how i can send it because it is too big to be attached to an email!

my e-mail is dart336@yahoo.com

Title: i want one
Post by: axeraider22 on April 18, 2005, 11:44:30 PM

hey extreme i'll try downloading it on my comp tell u tommarow if it works

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Post by: axeraider22 on April 18, 2005, 11:46:48 PM

GREAT SCREENSHOTS!!

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Post by: dart336 on April 21, 2005, 12:34:18 AM

i wonder what s.b. doing, there updates of demo

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Post by: Secret Box on April 24, 2005, 03:16:45 PM

srry dart, but what did you say?

i finished the game and i would send it to people who wanna test but it is to big to be attached to an email so the only way would be AIM!

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Post by: MariaMS on April 24, 2005, 03:58:52 PM

Those screenshots are nice!!!
You can try to register on sitesled.com and create there your own site with the demo... It's free ;)
I'd like to play it ^^

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Post by: dart336 on April 24, 2005, 05:03:23 PM

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Originally posted by Secret Box
srry dart, but what did you say?

i finished the game and i would send it to people who wanna test but it is to big to be attached to an email so the only way would be AIM!

just send itb to n.g

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Post by: Senyu on April 29, 2005, 02:02:22 AM

iF YOU STILL NEED A TESTER ill doit

Delta_omen@yahoo.com

Title: DO IT!!!!!:jumpin:
Post by: axeraider22 on April 29, 2005, 07:49:59 PM

Dude xtreme do that thing that maria said we could get SOOOO many ppl to test it and play our wonderful game


P.S for all the ppl who like it good news.....WERE WORKIN ON A SEQUEL USING RPG MAKER 2003!!!!!!!AND IT WILL BE SO MUCH BETTER THAN THIS ONE, THE STORYLINE WILL BE SO MUCH MORE THAN JUST SAVING YOUR KINGDOM, BIGGER THAN SAVING JUST THE WORLD...............

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Post by: Unknownkid on May 01, 2005, 12:43:28 PM

I also would like to test it. Send it (or send a link) to unknownkidz@hotmail.com

If you don't know where to upload it, go to freewebtown, register and upload your file there. You should be able to copy the link of your game and then send the link or post it here. Your choice.
Hope I was able to help you somehow...^^'

Title: sry
Post by: axeraider22 on May 31, 2005, 03:55:28 PM

we are expirencing technical difficulties with th game secretbox is making. we appriciate your patiance and if you have any suggegtions please tell us