Post by: Kilyle on July 14, 2006, 08:05:22 AM
Haven't made new kids in months--may not make new kids for months yet, either. Got other stuff going on. But I thought I'd put the kids up on my webpage, and therefore give you a place to find them all in one spot, and move any bandwidth consumption over to my pretty dead site instead of Charas-Project.
Don't expect page updates frequently, but eventually I do plan to put more resources up on my page. Anyway, here it is:
http://www.geocities.com/kilyle.geo/Craft/Games/Resources/index.htm
(I don't have my site in the best of shape, but it's a sort of language resource hub, with various other bits that interest me, so explore it if you like. I intend to eventually put GameMaker tutorials up, but who knows how long it'll be before I get that together.)
UPDATE: Starting to get the hang of editing beyond cut-and-paste-and-troubleshoot. These latest clothes worked out pretty well, I think. I'm closer to my goal of getting a non-skipping kid.
These are edits of the RTP kids, giving them good hair and recolors based on other RTP characters. I'll be making more when I get the chance.
These are not strict copy-paste jobs. A few pixels here and there make niggling little defects that I have to correct. I got annoyed at this, and posted more information on this post, but now I've erased that because it's not really useful information.
Oh, and if anyone knows of a program that can help me switch between palettes (load a set of colors here, another set here, press a button, and presto-change-o, your blue-haired character now has purple hair)...please let me know. (Free would be nice. Free software would be nicer.)
Anyhoo, here goes:
Post by: Kilyle on July 14, 2006, 08:09:56 AM
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Post by: Kilyle on July 15, 2006, 08:28:44 AM
1. Pink dress (based on candy-pink hair on the teenage girl in RTP char4).
2. Purple dress (based on purple hair). Dresses, by the way, have only five colors (on the girl, at least)--just ignore the shirt, which is the same on all the girls.
3. Yellow/gold dress (based on candy-pink girl's dress). I gave this one red shoes, but they're not distinct.
4. Taking the pigtails away took a slight bit of editing to avoid a squashed head; not bad, though.
ETA: I grew up with the idea that hair tied off to the back is a "ponytail" and hair tied off to the side (usually two, but sometimes just one) is a "pigtail." I don't think this was ever explained to me specifically, but that's the idea I got. Then I read somewhere, quite recently, that "pigtail" means a type of braid, and that hair tied off to the side, unbraided, is just a variation on "ponytail," even if there are two. Anyone around here who could give me more information?
Post by: Kilyle on July 15, 2006, 08:41:05 AM
I have noticed that this girl's haircut is not consistent: Her forehead is bare in the front view (on one side) but not on the side view. I worked out an alternate side view but haven't finished the sheet for it yet; I'll post it soon. Also I'll have two sheets without that floppy ponytail, so you'll have plenty of choice with this one.
Once I've finished at least eight sheets of the girl (or of the boy), I'll recombine by either color (eight haircuts, all blue) or "best choice" of each sheet. Probably both, actually. So, if you think that a particular haircut goes better with one particular color scheme than with the rest of the sheet, post that suggestion (e.g., "The 'no pigtails' haircut looks best in that sky-blue-orange with pink-purple polka dots color scheme").
Post by: Kilyle on July 18, 2006, 10:21:10 PM
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Post by: Kilyle on July 18, 2006, 10:27:28 PM
Post by: Kilyle on July 19, 2006, 09:33:20 PM
Post by: Kilyle on July 21, 2006, 12:28:30 AM
But at any rate, they look fine...I think. These would be for pirate kids, or maybe a gang...or just girls who like bandanas because their hair is so darn big. (I thought about editing the hair to make it less abundant...might do that some day.)
Are these edits useful to someone? I haven't heard a word since my last thread. Hmm. :unsure:
Oh, and the black dress is new (a recolor I haven't done before, I mean), and I changed the shirt to purple shadows instead of blue shadows.
Post by: Tomi on July 21, 2006, 12:31:20 AM
Post by: drenrin2120 on July 21, 2006, 01:25:58 AM
Post by: Kilyle on July 21, 2006, 09:21:21 PM
Are there any specific RTP chars you'd like me to work on next? I figure I might get to all of them eventually, but if there's a specific one someone needs, let me know.
Oh, and I'll be working on new clothes and/or walking animation when I get to it, which I hope is soon, because that skipping bugs me.
Post by: drenrin2120 on July 23, 2006, 05:30:29 PM
Post by: Meiscool-2 on July 25, 2006, 02:58:26 AM
Post by: Etna on July 26, 2006, 10:44:02 PM
Post by: Emerates on July 27, 2006, 12:06:21 AM
Now, if you combine Dren's idea with MIC's, you could have....... future pirates or something, and they could have........ future pirate stuff.
That logic is undeniable.
Post by: lonewolf on July 27, 2006, 02:31:39 PM
i like your work
if you can help me i need some kids making
for one of my games as
i for got to put some in to it
i like so tribe kids
here is the desswear
i like tham
to have on if you can for me
thank you for you time and help
can pm me to say if you can do it
or not as i got lot's on
and may forget this page
Post by: Kilyle on July 28, 2006, 09:11:14 AM
Hmm. Been busy lately, likely to be busy for a while yet, so I'm not sure if I'll be able to work on more kids for a few days. But I'll see what I can do. Looks like my to-do list is:
1. Futuristic Kids
2. Tribal Kids
3. More Pirate Kids (pirate boys?)
4. Change the clothing and/or walk on the RTP kids, then redo the sets I've already posted (e.g. a more sedate girl, a refined boy). I've actually started working on giving the boy different clothes, but so far I haven't gotten very far.
Thanks for the positive comments! (I'm thrilled to see a compliment from you, Meiscool! You're one of the few people on Charas that I see over and over and get to know (and respect) after a while. Glad you like my pirate girls!)
Anyone else tried to put together a new walk or new clothes for the kids? If you post 'em, and they're decent, and I put together the time, I can edit 'em in. It's best if the clothing/walk maintains the same relationship to the head as it does now, rather than doing any sort of overlapping (that is, it's best for the editor (me)...and anyone who wants edits in anything resembling a timely manner).
Hmm, while I'm at it...just how does one pronounce Charas? car-us? char-us? care-us? chair-us? I run up against this problem whenever I try to discuss this with my dad _sweat_
Now you guys go over to the gaming forum and guess my MIDI, dang it! http://charas-project.net/forum/showthread.php?threadid=10222&forumid=32&catid=6&page=26
Post by: lonewolf on July 28, 2006, 10:21:18 AM
you have all the time you need :bend:
Post by: Kilyle on July 30, 2006, 04:25:33 AM
Post by: Meiscool-2 on July 30, 2006, 04:33:35 AM
I would like to see some children that arn't skipping actually.
Post by: Kilyle on July 30, 2006, 04:50:43 AM
The nice thing is, as soon as I work out a non-skipping body, I can go and put all the heads on it, and double my production immediately :)
RE: Futuristic Kids
Do you mean kids that fit into the RTP futuristic set, the one with nothing but dull colors and plenty of metal?
Does RPGMaker2k3 not have the same charsets that 2000 had? I recall some goats and crocodiles and stuff and I don't see them in the RTP set on my computer. I thought they were standard...am I wrong?
Post by: Kilyle on July 31, 2006, 06:40:54 AM
Post by: Kilyle on July 31, 2006, 06:42:54 AM
Post by: Prpl_Mage on July 31, 2006, 07:17:06 AM
Post by: Kilyle on July 31, 2006, 07:33:22 AM
I really haven't seen that many kids around--and the kids I do see are specifically for a set that is a distinct entity, and nothing like RTP.
If I can figure out how to make kids who don't skip, maybe two or three different walking animations total, and different clothes for the girls, and pull a few more haircuts from the RTP set...I think that'll be great. And then the kids in all the cities and towns and villages (and pirate dens) and such will have distinct appearance, instead of the Kid Clones thing. Not to mention that you can have a kid in the party, and a kid who switches clothes for some reason, and even flashbacks of the main characters (or younger siblings of them).
Post by: lonewolf on July 31, 2006, 12:58:43 PM
facesets that may help you
for your kids
i hope there will help some one here
that needs them as well
Post by: Kilyle on July 31, 2006, 07:59:48 PM
Hey, for the tribal kids, could you post a pic of how those clothes look on a regular adult tribal member? Clothes and hair, or just clothes. That'd help a lot--thanks!
Post by: Kijuki_Magazaki on July 31, 2006, 08:04:32 PM
You are good example to this community.
Post by: Kilyle on July 31, 2006, 09:10:55 PM
Oh, and one other thing: The back anim is opposite RTP, in the example clothes (so that the footsteps actually match the front movement). I kept to the RTP footstep pattern. If you want to switch, just switch the left and right panels on the back animation.
If you'd like suggestions on how to improve the look and feel of this character, here goes:
1. Hair with only two or three colors can't compare with hair of six or seven colors. Are you trying for a tribal look that specifically needs only a couple colors (to look primitive?)? If not, consider putting in more color graduations. You don't need to add highlights really, if you don't mean to have shiny hair, and I think having characters without shiny hair is a good shift from normal.
2. That pony-tail holder (the blue beads) look kind of odd...not sure how to fix that.
3. Best suggestion: Unless those braids are really stiff, consider making them bounce or move as the girl walks. For ideas, take a look at the black-haired RTP girl who has half her hair up in a mini-ponytail. It bounces as she goes.
4. Possibly suggestion: Given the outline of the outfit almost matches that of the hair, maybe you should switch the hair a bit...make the ponytails slightly higher, or slightly lower, or not at this almost diagonal angle. Having them overlap her clothes more would help, I think.
ETA: I made one broad assumption: that you didn't mean to have the outline be blue. It didn't seem to fit the other colors. I got rid of it entirely, using the other dark color, which fit.
Other than that, I kinda like this one. And it wasn't as hard as I thought it might be. Nice choice!
(You can "pay" me by posting something in a language other than English...even just a couple lines. I love to hear other languages!)
Post by: Kilyle on July 31, 2006, 11:11:17 PM
If there are any glaring errors, let me know, and I might be able to fix them.
Anyway...hope these work for you, Lone Wolf!
Post by: Kilyle on August 01, 2006, 04:18:40 AM
If you'd like me to take more time getting a decent animation for that, I'm willing to. Let me know.
Post by: Kilyle on August 01, 2006, 07:52:47 PM
Post by: Kilyle on August 01, 2006, 09:13:56 PM
Post by: Ryos4 on August 01, 2006, 09:39:15 PM
Btw if u want to use some of my hair creations, since ive made many, and none of mine are too RTP looking.
Post by: lonewolf on August 02, 2006, 11:27:28 AM
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Originally posted by Kilyle
Wow, neat faces! I like 'em. Thanks! :heart:
Hey, for the tribal kids, could you post a pic of how those clothes look on a regular adult tribal member? Clothes and hair, or just clothes. That'd help a lot--thanks!
Kilyle need your help more if thats ok
i was thinking on doing some new clothes
for native tribes and some japan clothes
the thing is i can not do the kids
i can do the mum's and dad's
if you can copy the one's im making up
we can make some new thing's for the Charas Navigation
then any one needs them there can use them
for the kid or the mums and dads
thats if you like to help out that is
can you let me know asp
i be making some new woodland & Plains Indians clothes
i be get art for the japan clothes in time
what there will look like
all need is someone to see
if there work on a charaset
for me
and thanks for the kid's
one,s you made for me
there rock good work
Post by: Kilyle on August 03, 2006, 08:48:50 PM
BUT, if you make a charaset of the adult Indians, I think I could alter them into child sets.
Post by: Ryos4 on August 03, 2006, 09:13:27 PM
Btw this bunch is all heads of female characters that i have personally created. I tried to take of everything that wasnt hair or head related so some of them arnt complete heads. lol. Oh and some have base templates in the hair but most are 100% ME.
Use them if you like. Incase you want to try to get away from the RTP style hairs. Some if not all may require slight edits to make them fit the height of children.
Post by: Kilyle on August 03, 2006, 10:14:34 PM
If you find other interesting haircuts, ones that roughly match the RTP and would be decent for kids, go ahead and compile them to one file and post 'em. I'd appreciate having a variety to work with. Also, I like being able to shorten hair a bit (e.g. if the adult has a huge ponytail then I'll be able to make a shorter, more child-like version), so if you find ones that would look good on kids if they were toned down a bit, post those as well. Thanks! :heart:
P.S. I found the neatest thing on this forum: A check-box to get rid of the profile signature. It's very useful when the post is just a couple lines long, or when posting a resource, or when there's a back-and-forth between two or three people and the signatures have been posted once in the thread already. Signatures are so interesting! but can be overused if you're not careful.
Post by: Ryos4 on August 03, 2006, 10:54:41 PM
Though u could mean find as in find in my comp or in my gallery then okay. lol. Anyway they all are in the same style since i made em.
And that comment about the sig was directed towards me i would assume. Ill take it off for this thread then.
Tone down, lol. Sure go for it. I know my hair style is really large and stuff, but i believe that the hair makes the charset. But it looks good on regular size characters, it might even be good on tall charsets. But we will never find that out, since poses for tall sets is nearly impossible. Anyway the pony tail for the blueish hair is loose, while the pink and the blonde ones are tight. Remember that when your editing.
Theres a thing you could work on for your own style. You could attempt to make the hair sway while the characters walk. Im usually to lazy to do that but it looks good when its done.
Post by: lonewolf on August 04, 2006, 11:04:14 AM
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Originally posted by Kilyle
I don't have any skill in making charasets from larger art. I'm just barely starting to understand the ideas and techniques behind conversion. If you need someone to start you off with a charaset based on those pics, you'll need to ask someone else.
BUT, if you make a charaset of the adult Indians, I think I could alter them into child sets.
im making them in to adult indians
if i can alter them to look good for the charasets
Ryos4 im going to see if
i can make the adults
for the heads you posted
as thank's to you
i can work on a new charasets for the natives
Post by: Kilyle on August 04, 2006, 08:51:35 PM
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Originally posted by Ryos4
I didnt find those, i made those. And dont forget it. lol.
Not forgetting it, and sorry if I implied that. But I don't expect that you've made all the neat hairstyles available, which is why I didn't say "if you make any others," although I certainly would like to see them if you do.
As to sigs...yours is the most obvious on this thread--but I've seen plenty more on this forum and after a time even the neat ones get annoying. (Not, so far, that bug-eyed Tauren going "Oh rly?!" which is endlessly amusing...so far.)
And I honestly did just recently discover the checkbox--I'm not just saying that to remind you that it's there (a la "You know, I found a neat thing on my computer keyboard: The Caps Lock. Did you realize that you can actually type in lower-case??"...which can't help but be sarcastic).
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I know my hair style is really large and stuff, but i believe that the hair makes the charset.
Hair is certainly the most obvious feature. I really like yours the way they are; I'll figure out if they need to be "toned down" once I'm patching them onto the kid figs. I'm just saying, don't be afraid to post really big hair, like even if it's taller than the kid chars themselves, because I am capable of editing it down as needed (usually).
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the pony tail for the blueish hair is loose, while the pink and the blonde ones are tight.
Thanks for noting that. It helps to have info on what it's supposed to be, because often I'm staring at pixels going, "Okay, just what is this green thing?" Minimalist art sure is mystifying at times.
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You could attempt to make the hair sway while the characters walk. Im usually to lazy to do that but it looks good when its done.
Oh, I love moving hair. That little detail can really make a character. I'm not good at it yet, but I'm getting there. Slowly.
Post by: Ryos4 on August 04, 2006, 08:59:04 PM
If you mean the girl with the blonde hair pulled to one side. Those are part of the goggles. The orange parts are the lenses.
Post by: lonewolf on August 05, 2006, 10:49:37 AM
hope there help someone
here some new kids for you
Post by: Kijuki_Magazaki on August 07, 2006, 07:47:22 PM
those sprites are turning quite good. I might gonna have to go an duse them myself and credit you for it.
Post by: Ryos4 on August 07, 2006, 09:37:36 PM
And the only thing differnt from my sprites and everyone elses, is that they have more of an anime feel to them. Larger looking heads, thx to thier hairstyles.
Post by: Kilyle on August 10, 2006, 09:15:38 PM
I've made two without the skip, but haven't yet fixed the arms...but I'll submit them next so you can see the two alternatives for the hair's bounce. It's just the difference between having the hair flip up during one half of the animation vs. during the other half.
And, yeah, the overalls SO do not go with this haircut. I'm gonna get to that............eventually. (One can hope.)
Post by: Kilyle on August 10, 2006, 09:17:35 PM
Post by: Kilyle on August 10, 2006, 09:19:37 PM
Post by: Kilyle on August 16, 2006, 06:10:34 PM
Oh, and I know I still have to do:
1. Futuristic Kids
and
2. Kids who don't skip
Post by: Kilyle on February 24, 2007, 08:49:33 AM
http://www.geocities.com/kilyle.geo/Craft/Games/Resources/index.htm
...and you can therefore spare Charas-Project the bandwidth of reading this thread, and just check there.
Don't expect updates too often. I don't put much time or energy into making resources, given what else is in my life right now. But who knows? Maybe I'll get bit by the editing bug again. :vampire:
Post by: j_master on March 01, 2007, 07:09:50 AM
i would love it if you could make more non skipping kids, the skipping ones are annoying.
hmmm.... :*: :*: :*: out of 5