Post by: A Forgotten Legend on April 07, 2007, 11:22:50 PM
Original Ideas Thing:
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Originally posted by A Forgotten LegendQuoteOriginally posted by lucas_irineu
The only problem with charas are the inative peoples. And all the new users that sign up are flamed for requesting in first post, so, 3/4 of them run away. What charas need, in my opnion, is members. But its only my opnion. :corn:
I completely agree. I mean, if someone new does post a request on the first post, then they should be told nicely to please introduce themselves in the welcome thread. Even to actually fulfill the request and also tell them to introduce themselves, nicely, may keep people here.
I think we should start a thread in the All of All! talking about things we should do to try and keep people here and keep them coming, and how to improve charas now (not the charas 3.0). Because I think this topic is beginning to begin something like that.[/B]
Okay, so it looks like everyone is leaving because all these people that have been here and make charas part of what it is have left. But at least they come back to visit every once in a while.
So far, from reading replies i see things about:
- more projects may help
- a spam forum
- an arcade
- more requests being fulfilled
and so on...
Post by: Ben on April 07, 2007, 11:27:53 PM
If it was a project I was into maybe.
I try to give information on HOW to do it yourself if I can.
Fulfilling or not fulfilling a request isn't gonna cut it.
And NOT fulfilling a request dosen't make you a shitty member.
After all, it's not called makeallmycrapforme_forums.net.
Alot of the new members that join and leave are trying, only to get things made for them. Even if these requests are filled, chances are the person would leave as soon as novelty and intrest failed.
You know what charas needs? More active projects. Some Games, you know?
Even like, system demos.
Post by: A Forgotten Legend on April 07, 2007, 11:30:55 PM
Post by: Grandy on April 07, 2007, 11:33:44 PM
Post by: A Forgotten Legend on April 07, 2007, 11:35:59 PM
Post by: ellie-is on April 07, 2007, 11:36:31 PM
EDIT.: and about the part "charas need more games", most of the members here are not working on games. and if they are, they will never finish it (i hope i can finish my game someday).
Post by: SaiKar on April 07, 2007, 11:39:57 PM
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Originally posted by gemini
You know what charas needs? More active projects. Some Games, you know?
Even like, system demos.
Agree'd. Which reminds me. I need to post an update of Outpost Beta soonish.
Post by: Grandy on April 07, 2007, 11:40:11 PM
Post by: ellie-is on April 07, 2007, 11:43:23 PM
Post by: A Forgotten Legend on April 07, 2007, 11:45:40 PM
Suggestions:
When a newbie does something stupid, don't yell at them, be nice and tell them to try to fix what ever they did wrong.
When a newbie requests on the first post, ask them nicely to post a hello in the welcome thread, and if you can, not saying you have to, but try and fulfill the request, its okay if you can't just tell them after asking to to post in the welcome section that you are sorry but you can't do the request and ask someone else if they can.
We need some things to boost charas morale too.
I've noticed that a lot of the new members that appear on the main page never post. They join, and I never see the name again.
Post by: SaiKar on April 07, 2007, 11:50:02 PM
I'll admit giving him an important mod position was a bad move on my part. He's not nice, has never been nice, and showed no signs of ever being nice. He may have a few friends here but when he's being a jerk to so much of the population of the site it he was doing way more harm than good.
Post by: Grandy on April 07, 2007, 11:51:37 PM
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Originally posted by lucas_irineu
i have seen both, members running away, members leaving out of boredon, and peoples that dont make any games. everbody in this topic is right, but now we already know what the problems are, we should find a way to fix them. any ideas? :D
A spam forum. I've been thinking for a while, and those are most times the most movimented part of a forum.
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He's not nice, has never been nice, and showed no signs of ever being nice. He may have a few friends here but when he's being a jerk to so much of the population of the site it he was doing way more harm than good.
Well, I miself thought it'd be a good idea to give him the post. Mostly because he'd be the bad cop. We are full of good cops mods and admin, but almost no bad cop.
Post by: A Forgotten Legend on April 07, 2007, 11:59:14 PM
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Originally posted by GrandyQuoteOriginally posted by lucas_irineu
i have seen both, members running away, members leaving out of boredon, and peoples that dont make any games. everbody in this topic is right, but now we already know what the problems are, we should find a way to fix them. any ideas? :D
A spam forum. I've been thinking for a while, and those are most times the most movimented part of a forum.[/B]
Well, if people have a place just to spam and say random things, it may create an outlet where you can just say what you want to say, without the worry of "if i make a new topic for this, people might get mad at me because they think its stupid and has no reason to be here at all" or something like that.
Post by: Grandy on April 08, 2007, 12:07:32 AM
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Originally posted by A Forgotten LegendQuoteOriginally posted by GrandyQuoteOriginally posted by lucas_irineu
i have seen both, members running away, members leaving out of boredon, and peoples that dont make any games. everbody in this topic is right, but now we already know what the problems are, we should find a way to fix them. any ideas? :D
A spam forum. I've been thinking for a while, and those are most times the most movimented part of a forum.[/B]
Well, if people have a place just to spam and say random things, it may create an outlet where you can just say what you want to say, without the worry of "if i make a new topic for this, people might get mad at me because they think its stupid and has no reason to be here at all" or something like that.[/B]
Uh... yeah, that's my point.
Post by: blackskullwarlock on April 08, 2007, 12:08:30 AM
First, the requests. The few remaining spriters, myself included, usually don't bother answering requests because most end up taking and leaving. Even worst, most games will end up being deleted. Waste of time and efforts.
Second, more games. In most cases, if your game doesn't have flashy custom stuff, it'll just blend in the rest and people will stop paying attention. People live on flashy graphics and system, that's all there is to it.
Third, MrMister. Like him, hate him, it doesn't matter. In the end, it's a matter of respect. Show respect and if someone don't respect you back, ignore him/her. You'll be a better person.
Fourth, people that are leaving/joining. People are born, people die. The harsh reality. Although some members' retarded behaviors might play a role in the balance.
Fifth and final, a spam forum. One of the forum I go to has a forum to post all your random crapola. If you can disable post counts and give minimum guidelines then yeah, that's an idea. You can't imagine how many people are dying to make 'The Meh Thread' and just spam 'Meh' to their heart content.
Yeah, that's it. My two cents.
Post by: A Forgotten Legend on April 08, 2007, 12:11:02 AM
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Originally posted by GrandyQuoteOriginally posted by A Forgotten LegendQuoteOriginally posted by GrandyQuoteOriginally posted by lucas_irineu
i have seen both, members running away, members leaving out of boredon, and peoples that dont make any games. everbody in this topic is right, but now we already know what the problems are, we should find a way to fix them. any ideas? :D
A spam forum. I've been thinking for a while, and those are most times the most movimented part of a forum.[/B]
Well, if people have a place just to spam and say random things, it may create an outlet where you can just say what you want to say, without the worry of "if i make a new topic for this, people might get mad at me because they think its stupid and has no reason to be here at all" or something like that.[/B]
Uh... yeah, that's my point.[/B]
oh sorry, i forgot to say i was agreeing with you.
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Originally posted by blackskullwarlock
What can we do? Nothing. There are key factors as to why.
First, the requests. The few remaining spriters, myself included, usually don't bother answering requests because most end up taking and leaving. Even worst, most games will end up being deleted. Waste of time and efforts.
Second, more games. In most cases, if your game doesn't have flashy custom stuff, it'll just blend in the rest and people will stop paying attention. People live on flashy graphics and system, that's all there is to it.
Third, MrMister. Like him, hate him, it doesn't matter. In the end, it's a matter of respect. Show respect and if someone don't respect you back, ignore him/her. You'll be a better person.
Fourth, people that are leaving/joining. People are born, people die. The harsh reality. Although some members' retarded behaviors might play a role in the balance.
Fifth and final, a spam forum. One of the forum I go to has a forum to post all your random crapola. If you can disable post counts and give minimum guidelines then yeah, that's an idea. You can't imagine how many people are dying to make 'The Meh Thread' and just spam 'Meh' to their heart content.
Yeah, that's it. My two cents.
blackskullwarlock, such a negative attitude! There is always a way to make things better, but only if you try.
Post by: blackskullwarlock on April 08, 2007, 12:14:19 AM
Post by: A Forgotten Legend on April 08, 2007, 12:18:44 AM
So. Anyone else? Any (more? did one post yet?) Mods have some more to add?
I know what you're getting at blackskull, thanks for input. (no i'm not being sarcastic! :) )
Post by: GaryCXJk on April 08, 2007, 12:22:35 AM
Charas won't be like it used to be, but it won't be any better either. Change should be good, not bad.
Post by: coasterkrazy on April 08, 2007, 12:24:23 AM
Post by: A Forgotten Legend on April 08, 2007, 12:30:06 AM
Post by: Ben on April 08, 2007, 12:40:51 AM
In about a weeks time, when I make a new project thread for Genia, and release a battle and cinematics demo.
Ive been holding back until a demo release is feasable, even if only for battle systems.
But uh, yeah. Be prepared for google/myspace-like hits.
Its gonna be like, off the hook.
Post by: GaryCXJk on April 08, 2007, 12:41:37 AM
Post by: A Forgotten Legend on April 08, 2007, 12:43:53 AM
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Originally posted by gemini
You know whats gonna make charas awesome again?
In about a weeks time, when I make a new project thread for Genia, and release a battle and cinematics demo.
Ive been holding back until a demo release is feasable, even if only for battle systems.
But uh, yeah. Be prepared for google/myspace-like hits.
Its gonna be like, off the hook.
i'll try it, that myspace-like hits thing gave me an idea,
is there a charas myspace page? if there was, then we could get people that go on myspace as well. Just a thought.
Post by: Razor on April 08, 2007, 12:54:13 AM
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Originally posted by A Forgotten Legend
Have you noticed the amount of members leaving?
You sir, are overreacting.
In another post you claim that everyday you come here, you see another member leaving.
However, after 5 minutes in photoshop, this isn't quite true.
Upon closer inspection, you'll note that for the past 30 days, only three people have left.
Koopapooper: He left but then came back like the day after.
Gamerman: Hey, some people just run out of time, we got to respect that. It's not like he even left because he hates everyone of us.
MrMister: As Sai said, he knew what was coming, but he ended up choosing to leave in a more explosive manner.
Post by: A Forgotten Legend on April 08, 2007, 01:03:34 AM
Post by: Daetyrnis on April 08, 2007, 01:08:30 AM
My point is that members are always leaving, that's the way it works. Lately though it has been a bit less frequent, and when a high poster leaves (or pretends to), people are all like "WOAH!"
We should fulfil more requests, myself included. I'm apparently a good spriter, but I usually have other stuff I need to do. Perhaps when 3.0 comes around (or maybe sooner), I'll devote some more time towards Charas. Post more, make some fusking sprites. :p
Post by: Ben on April 08, 2007, 01:14:33 AM
Make a game.
Make a System....for a game....put it in a project...and host it.
Call it a demo. Like for an ABS...or CMS. a TEMPLATE project, as it were
Start a mini team.
Make some good templates.
Write a tutorial.
Make some facesets.
Edit some resources, and make them better.
Post links to new resource sites you find.
Post by: Meiscool-2 on April 08, 2007, 04:01:06 AM
One person leaves, I replace him. Another leaves, Archem replaces. Another, ZKX replaces. (due to joining dates, it should be the other way around)
Aside from that, Ghostclown was a powerabusing douche. I don't know why people took it out on Carmen.
And, AFL, if you stay, you'll become (you pretty much already are ;) ) an excellent member and a replacement to someone else who left. It's a cycle.
Post by: Razor on April 08, 2007, 04:14:01 AM
Post by: Ben on April 08, 2007, 04:17:52 AM
Post by: Revolution911 on April 08, 2007, 04:40:30 AM
Post by: SaiKar on April 08, 2007, 04:44:12 AM
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Originally posted by Meiscool
Aside from that, Ghostclown was a powerabusing douche. I don't know why people took it out on Carmen.
Because at least GC would fess up when he was called on it. Carmen though would claim she did nothing bad and that everyone else was flat out to get her. It made it very difficult for the staff to agree on anything.
Carmen was also quite a bit more blatent and didn't care who she pissed off, since she was a mod and criticizing a mod was "highly inappropriate."
Post by: Cosmos on April 08, 2007, 05:17:06 AM
Post by: Ben on April 08, 2007, 05:47:19 AM
Seriously though. My neighbors are jerks.
Post by: Robotam Plus on April 08, 2007, 07:42:55 AM
You see, I think people who come here today, they don't come here just to hang out. They come because our logo basically says "RPG-making site", and they probably think that either this is a good place to gain some rpg-maker expertise or that this would be a good place to publish their games without being hung in a tree by flamers (I'm hinting at gamingw, not Meiscool :p).
The reason they leave? It's because we lack the rpg-making. The majourity of our great mod crew has got no interest in rpg-making anymore, and that has effected the entire site and I believe that has played a part as to why our rpg-making interest has gone downhill. Not only new guys but some old members leaves because of the same reason. We don't care about their games or rpgmaker needs.
You want to fix charas? Then you fix our initiative in rpg-making.
It's just a theory...
Post by: Arcanagirl on April 08, 2007, 09:17:52 AM
Pretty much all the teams have abandoned their topics, and I hardly see anyone post there anymore like they used to back about 2 years ago.
The gaming forums seem very active compared to everything on this site. Gaming forums and All of All.
if any admins have access to the forums main ftp, maybe installing an arcade system might come in handy with bordem, can even hold contests if you get the right mods.
However I dont think anyone but Alex has access to doing this...
Humm not sure I have any good ideas at the moment, I will try to think it over and observe a few things...
Post by: Dragonium on April 08, 2007, 10:00:42 AM
Might I remind you that in many cases, when these newbies are told how to "do it themselves", even if this is totally supportive, they fly off the handle and want everything done for them.
Maybe this is just my interpretation of the facts. But as I see it, the whole "this is an RPG Maker site, and I've heard that people do requests, so that means that they'll immediately want to make me 500 KH charsets and if they don't I'll flame them like the retard I am" attitude has to end for Charas to get back to being happy.
My second point: is it possible to set up some sort of counter to tell us how many "hits" the Generators get and how many "hits" the Forums get? It'd be good, at least for me, to see whether it's the whole site that's dying off, or just the Forums. People still use the Generators, and they don't need to register on the Forums and make the effort of being a decent member to do that, do they?
Post by: ellie-is on April 08, 2007, 11:09:13 AM
Post by: aboutasoandthis on April 08, 2007, 05:00:47 PM
(Thanks for that in the Kingdom Hearts thread).
To me, this site just needs some fun. The C-Box was fun, but when entire topics and focused ideas came into it, it died. Drace's "Off Topic" thread was awesome, but it died off too. Hopefully this "Unmodded Thread" will go somewhere. :p
As to the games, you have to realize that games nomatter how big or small take time. I was just talking about this with Drenrin once. My main project was being continuously deleted. I put a lot of time and effort into it. So I told him I would still continue to work on it, but that I would work on it less. I would instead focus on making smaller games.
Even though these games are small, they are not finished. Are they not finished because I do not have the incentive to finish them? No, I'm still working on them. You just have to realize that these games take time. Just wait...stop complaining...
Once summer vacation or something rolls around, you will see an explosion.
I don't think this place is in a slump, but that's just me. I would rather live my life and come back to find a techical masterpiece in the summer, rather than come here every day to post "FINISH FINISH FINISH FINISH...this place sucks"
Post by: Krynth on April 08, 2007, 05:45:13 PM
I know there may be alot of con's to it...just suggesting it again...
And I've come to agree with alot of things that have already mentioned...
My only excuse other than lack of time for not having a demo or anything for my game is I'm still trying to figure out how to make my cms still which I want before even thinking of a release....
Edit: Tried promoting by telling friends and family to add to the new member list but I'm the oly one who even uses the program...
<<<
Post by: Arcanagirl on April 08, 2007, 08:50:01 PM
Post by: A Forgotten Legend on April 08, 2007, 08:59:05 PM
Post by: Roland_Deschain on April 08, 2007, 09:03:56 PM
Also, I think that members like Rev911 that flame excessively and make fun of people and crap like that are a major part of the problem.
Post by: aboutasoandthis on April 08, 2007, 09:22:49 PM
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The internet just needs a better sense of humor/sarcasm.
Post by: A Forgotten Legend on April 08, 2007, 09:29:27 PM
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Originally posted by Roland_Deschain
I'd have to agree that in the short time I've been here, charas has gone a bit downhill. I think that in order to fix it, there should be slightly stricter ban policies, IE a warning system that goes from, say, 1-10. If you do something moderately bad like spam you get 1 point of warn, but if you blatantly break rules, you're banned.
Good idea, but what ranks a 1 and what ranks a 10? To different people different things don't seem as bad as others may see them. There would have to be set guidelines. For no discrepancies. Like a 1 are these things and a 2 is this and so on.
Post by: Roland_Deschain on April 08, 2007, 09:32:03 PM
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Originally posted by A Forgotten LegendQuoteOriginally posted by Roland_Deschain
I'd have to agree that in the short time I've been here, charas has gone a bit downhill. I think that in order to fix it, there should be slightly stricter ban policies, IE a warning system that goes from, say, 1-10. If you do something moderately bad like spam you get 1 point of warn, but if you blatantly break rules, you're banned.
Good idea, but what ranks a 1 and what ranks a 10? To different people different things don't seem as bad as others may see them. There would have to be set guidelines. For no discrepancies. Like a 1 are these things and a 2 is this and so on.[/B]
Hmmm... Well, the forums I linked to have a pretty cool intro/rules comic strip on the first page that gives a brief outline. I think something like that would help set the rules in stone, so to speak.
Post by: Revolution911 on April 08, 2007, 09:47:24 PM
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Originally posted by aboutasoandthis
Originally Posted by Revolution911
QuoteThe internet just needs a better sense of humor/sarcasm.[/B]
You can all learn something from this man.
Also, you guys are such whiners. All Charas has done for like the past 2 years has complained about going downhill. Its getting really really old. Not to mention, NO ONE besides ZKX, Meiscool, and maybe Archem can take a joke without pissing his pants on this forum. Every fun topic that opens gets ruined because these strict mods scream "SPAM." This forum needs to LIGHTEN THE **** UP. Hell, you people even CENSOR CURSE WORDS. We're not some ****ing daycare here.
Oh, and Roland. I told you to join a chess forum. Get over it. This is exactly what I mean. Plus you saw me post in ONE THREAD.
Post by: A Forgotten Legend on April 08, 2007, 09:50:41 PM
I still like that idea of the 1-10 thing.
(Off-topic?)
Wait, was that no moderator thread thingy there before?
Post by: Roland_Deschain on April 08, 2007, 09:59:59 PM
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Originally posted by Revolution911QuoteOriginally posted by aboutasoandthis
Originally Posted by Revolution911
QuoteThe internet just needs a better sense of humor/sarcasm.[/B]
You can all learn something from this man.
Also, you guys are such whiners. All Charas has done for like the past 2 years has complained about going downhill. Its getting really really old. Not to mention, NO ONE besides ZKX, Meiscool, and maybe Archem can take a joke without pissing his pants on this forum. Every fun topic that opens gets ruined because these strict mods scream "SPAM." This forum needs to LIGHTEN THE **** UP. Hell, you people even CENSOR CURSE WORDS. We're not some ****ing daycare here.
Oh, and Roland. I told you to join a chess forum. Get over it. This is exactly what I mean. Plus you saw me post in ONE THREAD.[/B]
See, a post like this on the forums I mentioned would almost be enough to get you banned. I can take a joke, what I can't stand though is people like this, who think that just because I only spoke to them on one thread means I haven't seen posts in other threads. As for censoring curse words, I'm 100% for that. On most forums, there is no swear filter. Occasionally a mod will pop up and fix a post riddled with swears, but it is generally assumed that people will understand that younger children may be reading these forums and stuff like that can mess these kids up.
And, Rev911, It's not the internet that needs a better sense of humor, it's you.
EDIT: I'm not just talking about Rev in this post, I'm talking about 45% of the people on forums that I've been to. Just because I quoted him as an example doesn't mean a thing.
Post by: A Forgotten Legend on April 08, 2007, 10:06:06 PM
Swear Filters = good. I mean don't we have people of the age of 12? Is there anyone younger than that here? I haven't noticed...
(If someone is going to use the "you're only 14!" thing, I'm going to be 15 this month, and plus I am in high school, i hear these words everyday!)
Post by: Roland_Deschain on April 08, 2007, 10:18:22 PM
Back on topic, a couple ideas for the numbers on the system:
1=Something small, like maybe unintentional spam or a single, not-too-aggressive flame and such.
2=Either a double offense in the "1" category, or an intentional spam and the like.
The later numbers would be more of the same.
Post by: Moosetroop11 on April 08, 2007, 10:26:38 PM
2: If what Rev said was enough to get him banned then I would leave this forum. You've earned quite a reputation for overreacting, Roland. Honestly you need to stop taking things so personally on the internet.
3: Spam forum sounds like a fairly good idea, so long as it doesn't replace other forums such as all of all for people's attention.
4: These threads make me depressed. Why didn't you bring these points up in the Charas 3.0 thing? Nevertheless I guess we need to talk about it.
5: I agree with everything Grandy has said
6: :)
Post by: Daetyrnis on April 08, 2007, 10:52:36 PM
Charas no longer has a focus on RPG Maker, it consists of primarily All of All topics, which are totally unrelated, as well as Forum Gaming topics, which are again not related.
When I joined (Early 2004), Charas was way more focused on game making. People routinely were posting game threads and commenting on them. Sure, the games might not have been spectacular, but they were the focus. There was also attention on resources, which makes sense as Charas evolved from the Charset Generator. There were even generator contests (http://charas-project.net/contests.php?lang=en).
Now, this change did not happen recently. It occured around the time when the majority of the old (2003) members started to leave. This left Charas in a state of nothingness.
So, in my opinion, we should have more support for Games and Game making, and we should perhaps focus slightly more on resouces.
As a final note, anyone who thinks Charas is on the path of destruction or is going downhill is overreacting. Charas is not moving up or down any hill.
EDIT: You know how we always say that we shouldn't do newcomer's requests because they just take the sprite and leave? Well, we never seem to fulfil their requests, so how should we know this? Perhaps they are leaving because they do not get any support and only get people saying that they are not good enough (need to get poplarity first).
Post by: Revolution911 on April 08, 2007, 10:55:01 PM
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Originally posted by Roland_DeschainQuoteOriginally posted by Revolution911QuoteOriginally posted by aboutasoandthis
Originally Posted by Revolution911
QuoteThe internet just needs a better sense of humor/sarcasm.[/B]
You can all learn something from this man.
Also, you guys are such whiners. All Charas has done for like the past 2 years has complained about going downhill. Its getting really really old. Not to mention, NO ONE besides ZKX, Meiscool, and maybe Archem can take a joke without pissing his pants on this forum. Every fun topic that opens gets ruined because these strict mods scream "SPAM." This forum needs to LIGHTEN THE **** UP. Hell, you people even CENSOR CURSE WORDS. We're not some ****ing daycare here.
Oh, and Roland. I told you to join a chess forum. Get over it. This is exactly what I mean. Plus you saw me post in ONE THREAD.[/B]
See, a post like this on the forums I mentioned would almost be enough to get you banned. I can take a joke, what I can't stand though is people like this, who think that just because I only spoke to them on one thread means I haven't seen posts in other threads. As for censoring curse words, I'm 100% for that. On most forums, there is no swear filter. Occasionally a mod will pop up and fix a post riddled with swears, but it is generally assumed that people will understand that younger children may be reading these forums and stuff like that can mess these kids up.
And, Rev911, It's not the internet that needs a better sense of humor, it's you.[/B]
GO LEARN THE INTERNET.
First off dude, you have 66 posts and joined last month. Where the hell do you conjure the balls to even post in a thread like this. Second off, you completely ignore the fact that two other members were actually INSULTING YOU in the thread. Yet you choose to try and point me out for making a sarcastic remark, telling you to go join a chess forum.
Third off, we're not a daycare. The word **** is not going to scar a child for life. But censorship isnt even a big issue. I could care less, but its just something I wanted to mention.
You're the only one who has complained about me. You're whining and moaning about one thread where I made a sarcastic remark and you took it too far and even then, after calling me a dumbass, I STILL never insulted you. Dont try to be some ****ing governer on a forum you've been on for a total of 3 weeks, big guy. Not to mention I've barely been posting here, so you dont know ANYTHING about the way I post.
Go join a chess forum. OH W8. I 4GOT U DNT LEIK SARCAZM LOL. LEMME REFRAZE THAT. Go join the most innocent, serious forum possible because you obviously cant handle the rest of the internet without complaining.
PM me if you still have a problem.
All praise moosetroop.
I personally think what this forum needs is some FUN. It seems like whenever something fun shows up, you guys like to think of it as spam or something. Loosen up and whip out your super soakers. No sexual pun intended.
Post by: Daetyrnis on April 08, 2007, 10:57:14 PM
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Originally posted by Revolution911QuoteOriginally posted by Roland_DeschainQuoteOriginally posted by Revolution911QuoteOriginally posted by aboutasoandthis
Originally Posted by Revolution911
QuoteThe internet just needs a better sense of humor/sarcasm.[/B]
You can all learn something from this man.
Also, you guys are such whiners. All Charas has done for like the past 2 years has complained about going downhill. Its getting really really old. Not to mention, NO ONE besides ZKX, Meiscool, and maybe Archem can take a joke without pissing his pants on this forum. Every fun topic that opens gets ruined because these strict mods scream "SPAM." This forum needs to LIGHTEN THE **** UP. Hell, you people even CENSOR CURSE WORDS. We're not some ****ing daycare here.
Oh, and Roland. I told you to join a chess forum. Get over it. This is exactly what I mean. Plus you saw me post in ONE THREAD.[/B]
See, a post like this on the forums I mentioned would almost be enough to get you banned. I can take a joke, what I can't stand though is people like this, who think that just because I only spoke to them on one thread means I haven't seen posts in other threads. As for censoring curse words, I'm 100% for that. On most forums, there is no swear filter. Occasionally a mod will pop up and fix a post riddled with swears, but it is generally assumed that people will understand that younger children may be reading these forums and stuff like that can mess these kids up.
And, Rev911, It's not the internet that needs a better sense of humor, it's you.[/B]
GO LEARN THE INTERNET.
First off dude, you have 66 posts and joined last month. Where the hell do you conjure the balls to even post in a thread like this. Second off, you completely ignore the fact that two other members were actually INSULTING YOU in the thread. Yet you choose to try and point me out for making a sarcastic remark, telling you to go join a chess forum.
Third off, we're not a daycare. The word **** is not going to scar a child for life. But censorship isnt even a big issue. I could care less, but its just something I wanted to mention.
You're the only one who has complained about me. You're whining and moaning about one thread where I made a sarcastic remark and you took it too far and even then, after calling me a dumbass, I STILL never insulted you. Dont try to be some ****ing governer on a forum you've been on for a total of 3 weeks, big guy. Not to mention I've barely been posting here, so you dont know ANYTHING about the way I post.
Go join a chess forum. OH W8. I 4GOT U DNT LEIK SARCAZM LOL. LEMME REFRAZE THAT. Go join the most innocent, serious forum possible because you obviously cant handle the rest of the internet without complaining.
All praise moosetroop.[/B]
Rev, have you ever stopped to think that maybe he isn't talking specifically about you insulting him? How 'bout he's talking about your general attitude towards others, not just himself.
Post by: Revolution911 on April 08, 2007, 11:06:49 PM
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Originally posted by Daetyrnis
Rev, have you ever stopped to think that maybe he isn't talking specifically about you insulting him? How 'bout he's talking about your general attitude towards others, not just himself.[/B]
My point is he's seen me in one thread and all of the sudden I represent a group of what, 3 members that flame everyone? I dont even post in welcoming threads and this guy wants to point me out. Excuse me for getting insulted.
Post by: Daetyrnis on April 08, 2007, 11:07:45 PM
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Originally posted by Revolution911QuoteOriginally posted by Daetyrnis
Rev, have you ever stopped to think that maybe he isn't talking specifically about you insulting him? How 'bout he's talking about your general attitude towards others, not just himself.[/B]
My point is he's seen me in one thread and all of the sudden I represent a group of what, 3 members that flame everyone? I dont even post in welcoming threads and this guy wants to point me out. Excuse me for getting insulted.[/B]
Proof for bolded text?
Just because he posted in one thread does not been that he hasn't read others. Not everybody posts in every thread they read.
Post by: Revolution911 on April 08, 2007, 11:10:30 PM
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Originally posted by DaetyrnisQuoteOriginally posted by Revolution911QuoteOriginally posted by Daetyrnis
Rev, have you ever stopped to think that maybe he isn't talking specifically about you insulting him? How 'bout he's talking about your general attitude towards others, not just himself.[/B]
My point is he's seen me in one thread and all of the sudden I represent a group of what, 3 members that flame everyone? I dont even post in welcoming threads and this guy wants to point me out. Excuse me for getting insulted.[/B]
Proof for bolded text?
Just because he posted in one thread does not been that he hasn't read others. Not everybody posts in every thread they read.[/B]
Exactly. But he hasnt. The most offensive thing I've said lately was in the MrMr goodbye thread where I called someone annoying. Literally. 99% of my posts are "lol" and "sweet."
Post by: A Forgotten Legend on April 08, 2007, 11:21:11 PM
Post by: Cosmos on April 08, 2007, 11:22:29 PM
Rev, you need to ignore him.
Post by: Revolution911 on April 08, 2007, 11:22:57 PM
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Originally posted by A Forgotten Legend
_sweat_
Er...sorry.
BUT HE STARTED IT. :( :(
Mid: k hunny :)
Post by: Cosmos on April 08, 2007, 11:24:34 PM
Post by: A Forgotten Legend on April 08, 2007, 11:30:38 PM
Post by: WarxePB on April 08, 2007, 11:45:55 PM
Post by: A Forgotten Legend on April 08, 2007, 11:47:17 PM
Post by: Grandy on April 09, 2007, 12:29:02 AM
Step 1 - Stop posting about the forum going downhill. It's depressing.
Step 2 - Actually do something about it to make this place better. Stop waiting for contests to make resources, just do them, doesn't matter how crappy they are.
Step 3 - Change this dark blue background. It's classic, okay, but it's a depressing color. Plusd, if you guys want to start anew (as I been hearing) that's a good start.
Step 4 - People don't do requests. Deal with it. Seriously, I've been felt somewhat forced to try to make requests sometimes because people say "Those who can do requests should."
Step 5 - Make more thread that suggest interactivity. Forum games like word-association are one kind, but I remember once having a photoshop game, where people had to take a picture that other guy made and photoshop it somehow. That's some interactive game right there.
Step 6 - Write. Silly. Stuff. It's good to you.
Step 7 - Write happy stuff. Most threads I see here are about bad things that happenned.
See Almeida, as an example, he made a thread about a silly joke he saw, about various countries and 2 cows, and if that wasn't the best thread I saw in times, I don't know what is it.
Step 8 - Write new stuff. 'Cause news happen every phucking day. In another forum I go, a guy posted some news of a giant squid. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/17506125/site/newsweek/
People like this kind stuff.
Step 9 - Change yourselves. I mean, who else isn't tired of seeing Razor's avatar? I' sure am. This might not help the forum, but it will help my eyes.
Step 10 - Stop living in the past. Charas was good, yes, 10/11 people left, Red Giant, GC, beetwen others. Crying of oh how the past was great won't help us as it won't help the real old people. Instead of crying on how the new members aren't the old members, enjoy the new members because they are who they are.
Post by: Razor on April 09, 2007, 02:04:52 AM
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Where the hell do you conjure the balls to even post in a thread like this.
Roland, I'd have to agree with this, even if the wording is a bit harsh.
You did only join last month, so I doubt you could really have noticed a decline (like you said you had in a previous post).
Nothing noticeably bad has even happened this year, unless maybe you include that whole Rayne nonsense where quite a few people acted poorly.
But thank your lucky socks you haven't seen troll action. That's when it gets hectic.
Oh, and are you happy now, Grandy? ;)
Post by: Osmose on April 09, 2007, 02:05:44 AM
Oh, and we don't have code access yet, so any site-improving ideas will have to wait until Alex gives us the okay about the new server. In the meantime, CHILL THE **** OUT. Charas deserves improvements, it doesn't need them.
Oh, and Roland, you have not seen Charas at it's worst. I guarantee you that. Spend a little more time before you make judgment.
Post by: Ben on April 09, 2007, 07:07:35 AM
THERE ARE THINGS IN THE WORKING TO MAKE THIS PLACE BETTER.
QUIT BEING SISSIES. GO VENT IN THE UN-MODED FORUM. TAKE A BREATH. ITS NOT GOING DOWN HILL. ITS NOT EVEN STAGNANT. ITS STRIVING TO IMPROVE.
And its not going to improve if everyone takes rev seriously.
I mean, Sure, Rev is a douchy bish sometimes...But seriously, hes the funniest 'rican on this forum, and we need his stupid to balance out the awesome that is gemini.
Seriously, getting your panties in a knot is not accomplishing. Suck it up.
This one time, I threw a hissy. And I was all "UGGGH....IHM LEEFFING"
And then everyone was all "YOU IS A BISH"
And then I lurked. And I relized I was a bish. And that being a bish wasn't helping anyone.So I Apologized for being a bish, And when I accepted my inner bish, and just focused on HAVING FUN IN A RPG GAMING FORUM, it was alot better of an experience for all. And now my estrogen level is like...well....down.
Seriously....Roland....Man up. Type with your Testicles, and not your ovaries. Be a cool dude, and not a....um..... just be cool. everyone.
Or be killed by the powers of the flames of my cursed blade of METAAAAL.
Post by: Arcanagirl on April 09, 2007, 09:17:18 AM
Like right now the board containing games and requests, maybe place it into it's own board called projects or something.
~Project stuff???~
~Requests
~RPGs games
~Action games
~Shooter games
~Stradigy games
~etc
Might make it easier to keeo track of posts dealing with what and where, and easier for others to roam through the game section, rather then just clicking on a game and guessing what it is by reading. Could just click on a genre you might be interested in and check out projects from there...
Just another idea...
Post by: Osmose on April 09, 2007, 01:22:35 PM
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Originally posted by Arcanagirl
What about doing some forum rearranging?
Like right now the board containing games and requests, maybe place it into it's own board called projects or something.
~Project stuff???~
~Requests
~RPGs games
~Action games
~Shooter games
~Stradigy games
~etc
Might make it easier to keeo track of posts dealing with what and where, and easier for others to roam through the game section, rather then just clicking on a game and guessing what it is by reading. Could just click on a genre you might be interested in and check out projects from there...
Just another idea...
Admittedly, just how often are boards for shooter games going to be used for an RPG Maker website? :P
All you guys worrying about getting more focused on games, that was one of the key focuses of 3.0 and one of the features we're going to try and implement is an actual games section of the site that is way more organized and will help people showcase their games and such. So don't worry, we've got you covered.
Post by: A Forgotten Legend on April 09, 2007, 01:31:41 PM
Post by: Grandy on April 09, 2007, 03:09:33 PM
Why not making it a general games forum which supports RPGM?
Post by: Revolution911 on April 09, 2007, 07:27:15 PM
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I mean, Sure, Rev is a douchy bish sometimes...But seriously, hes the funniest 'rican on this forum, and we need his stupid to balance out the awesome that is gemini.
You're gunna make me cry. You big lug you. :heart:
Post by: ellie-is on April 09, 2007, 08:25:17 PM
Post by: Roland_Deschain on April 09, 2007, 09:51:39 PM
First, to Rev: Sorry, man. Insomnia makes me a bit grouchy and I'd like to apologize for being a douche. Same goes to everyone else.
Second, my idea: To make the forum a bit more fun, why don't we first off make the introductory topic mandatory in order to post, that way we both reduce the number of spambots (if charas has any) and get rid of newbs posting a request as a first topic? And second, why not update the general atmosphere and give charas a unique look, such as a 16-bit theme? It might liven the place up, IMO. I think it might help a bit more than my prior idea...
EDIT: Actually, my major complaint other than the design it how freakin' long it takes to load on my sloow-*** computer. Oh well, I'm getting a new one soon.
EDIT2: Also, another thing that could liven the site up would be an RPG-like interface, where you have either a generic or custom avatar. The different categories could be buildings and the forums different rooms. How's that sound?
Post by: A Forgotten Legend on April 09, 2007, 11:23:42 PM
Look at the weird ads this thread is giving me...
Anyway, can someone tell me who I can get the 3.0 charas support thing? Anyway... yeah...
Post by: Roland_Deschain on April 09, 2007, 11:28:57 PM
Post by: Grandy on April 10, 2007, 12:23:13 AM
Post by: Revolution911 on April 10, 2007, 03:07:47 AM
Post by: Meiscool-2 on April 10, 2007, 03:22:21 AM
Try it peoples.
Post by: Osmose on April 10, 2007, 10:10:57 AM
Post by: SilverBlade on April 10, 2007, 11:16:17 AM
Just a suggestion.
[SHADOW]SilverBlade[/SHADOW]
PS: We should update the 'Completed Games'-thread and put demo's and games of the new members in it.
Post by: GaryCXJk on April 10, 2007, 08:15:44 PM
But be our guest to make one anyway.
And since we're about contests anyway, I'm starting the next Charas Resource Contest, to "celebrate" Charas 3.0. Details are found in this thread:
http://charas-project.net/forum/showthread.php?threadid=19996&forumid=4&catid=8
Post by: Moosetroop11 on April 10, 2007, 09:09:07 PM
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and razor... you have been using this avatar for how long? i usually change my avatar every week.
What does Razors avatar have to do with anything? 0_o Razor's avatar is awesome. Grandy, if you're that upset about a permanent avatar, you've got to get your priorities straight :p
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make the introductory topic mandatory in order to post
We need to encourage new members, not dissuade them. If they're sucky members, they'll leave. Big deal.
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Also, another thing that could liven the site up would be an RPG-like interface, where you have either a generic or custom avatar. The different categories could be buildings and the forums different rooms. How's that sound?
And who's going to make that? _sweat_
Jesus jesus jesus. Jesus? Jesus
Post by: Osmose on April 10, 2007, 11:34:02 PM
Post by: GaryCXJk on April 11, 2007, 06:23:42 PM
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Originally posted by Moosetroop11Of course not Jesus! Me!
QuoteAlso, another thing that could liven the site up would be an RPG-like interface, where you have either a generic or custom avatar. The different categories could be buildings and the forums different rooms. How's that sound?
And who's going to make that? _sweat_
Jesus jesus jesus. Jesus? Jesus[/B]
Or, people design it, and me and the other people who code on everything can implement these things.
As long as it isn't Flash it's fine, since Flash is only good for small banners, or else it would require simply too much from the peoples CPU.