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Off-Topic => All of all! => Topic started by: A Forgotten Legend on May 02, 2011, 03:03:55 AM
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http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704569404576297941397558496.html?mod=googlenews_wsj
First.
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bout goddamn time.
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Won't change nothin'
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I'm in shock.
This is a giant win for US troops, but I doubt that the war is going to change much at this moment.
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Actually, after hearing the Obama speech, I've decided I don't want to be a jerk tonight. Maybe tomorrow. But not tonight.
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Took long enough!
But yes, time to celebrate.
I'm curious about the details. Obama said there was a firefight. Did they capture or kill any of the people who were harboring bin Laden?
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**** Obama's speech.
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Hmm?
Why do you say that?
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I think if Obama gets blamed for the piling debt, he should be allowed to take credit for this one.
That said, and having just watched the speech (nice speech by the way), he REALLY doesn't hold back in taking credit for it. Oh well, relish in the moment, who can blame him?
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Good for you guys!
What difference does this make?
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What difference does this make?
Absolutely nothing. He had multiple replacements.
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**** Obama's speech.
If nothing else, I really liked how he ended it with part of the Pledge. That doesn't get used often enough.
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Not sure how to feel about this.
On the one hand, great. Al Qaeda's figurehead is gone, and the families affected by September 11th get some well-deserved closure. On the other hand, Al Qaeda have slowed down to a crawl in recent years, and this is going to stir up a hornets' nest that hasn't long since calmed down. Martyrdom is a big thing to Mujahideen.
I don't know, the way the American public at large are celebrating this like Al Qaeda is defeated and everyone lived happily ever after just... doesn't sit right with me.
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My thoughts exactly, Dragonium.
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Best post I've seen:
Osama bin Laden's legacy lives on with every traveler being herded through body scanners, with every illegal search in our 120-mile-radius Constitution-free zones, and with every warrantless wiretap.
Until his legacy dies, he lives on, as strong as ever.
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Everyone at my school is treating it like the war on terror is over.
Unfortunately, I'm pretty sure this is gonna have a huge backlash. There will probably be more terror plots in the coming future.
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Well I do think it's a good thing that he kinda paid for his crimes, but I doubt it'll change much. It might even worsen the case.
I sure hope Al Qaida doesn't unleash their rage on any hostages they may have taken, though...
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Me and my mom were discussing this today. Essentially, she was uneasy with the thought that people were treating the death of a man almost like it's some sort of holiday, and honestly I agree with her. He had it coming, and I doubt they would've been able to capture him alive, but I dunno, maybe it's because I'm not an American.
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Nah. I'm an American and I agree with you entirely, Warxe. My thoughts on the matter pretty much mirror Dragonium's.
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Nobody's denying that the man was evil, but celebrating a man who has been all but forgotten for 3 years being shot dead along with members of his family and dumped in the sea should not be something to celebrate.
When did death - murder, even - become alright to feel good about as long as the person "deserved it"?
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Dragonium - since the beginning of time, give or take. Don't kid yourself and certainly don't try to kid us. We have airplanes and ipods, but human nature hasn't changed a whole lot. Certainly not as much as we like to fool ourselves into thinking it has. We just guard our true selves closer these days.
Al Qaeda certainly didn't give a crap about the moral high ground when they sent all those civilians burning to their death. You have to make sure that people know that this sort of thing won't be tolerated. If it takes hunting a man down for ten years through awful hellhole countries to make that point, then that's what it takes.
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An eye for an eye, as they say. Now, as for why so many people seem to think that this marks the end of an era, that has a lot to do with the way that the news here reports its stories. They keep it simple for the stupid, charge it politically, and try to focus all the blame onto a single person or group. Fox is the worst in this respect, and since it's also the biggest news source in the US, their misinformed reports make a world of a difference.
Still, the death of the figurehead of the USA's greatest enemy is pretty big news, given that we've been trying to bring him (as well as any other person involved in the September 11th attacks) to justice.
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I agree with Archem 1000%. Most of the media coverage I've seen boils down to "the bad guy is dead, yippee". I have yet to see anything along the lines of "the bad guy might have friends who are now very angry". But then, it's whatever makes people happy. If this was played down as not really a big deal that doesn't bring a lot of closure for the people affected by September 11th who've been waiting for this day for a long time.
Sai, it's a difference of opinion, nothing more. I don't agree with the American government's idea of "fair retaliation", but that's just me. I'm not trying to sound like an apologist.
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It's just that, I'm not sure if you noticed, but there haven't been a heck of a lot of encouraging things happening in the world period in the past decade. Terrorism. Recessions and outsourcing. And don't forget those long-term deaths like global warming and fossil fuels running out! We both know that Osama's death won't mean much in the overall scheme of things, but if this is what it takes to make people feel better and like they have a fighting chance, well, I'm willing to let that parade last as long as it can. Which won't be long at all, but that's okay. Take what we can get.
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Well, on that we agree.
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When someone dedicates their life to killing innocent people, I believe they deserve to die. But for the last day and a half, everyone has just been going crazy about this. While this is great news, terrorists are still around, and like always, they're going to keep trying to attack us.
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I'm getting sick of people acting all self-righteous and guilting those who celebrated his death.
This man is responsible for the deaths of thousands of people.
And about the whole burial at sea controversy....This is me rolling my eyes. No matter what they did with his body, there'd be trouble. Why fret for months over which country he'd be buried in and whether or not it would be used as a rallying point for terrorist sympathizers? They took the simple way out, and I don't blame them.
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This is something I wanted to see posted. Thank you for not pussing out and taking full advantage of internet anonymity to really express your thoughts. It doesn't help that I agree with this sentiment, to an extent.
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I'm getting sick of people acting all self-righteous and guilting those who celebrated his death.
This man is responsible for the deaths of thousands of people.
I think that today (and the next few days) should be spent remembering and mourning those thousands of people, rather than celebrating the death of one man.
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Fair enough, but we've been remembering and mourning for 10 years.
I think people should react to bin Laden's death however they please.
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The way I see it, celebrating his death is remembering all those who have died because of him to so many people. Why do they even celebrate to begin with? It's because he's taken so much away, and they feel that his death is the price payed in blood that, while not exactly making up for the tragedies, certainly helps by bringing some closure. It's important to try and see things from every perspective before judging and criticizing.
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The way I see it, good riddance. Osama was an awful human being who murdered and tortured countless thousands of people, and organized suicide terrorist, such as 9/11, to kill thousands more.
I feel no sympathy for such a man.
I do wonder why everyone is so quick to say, "that was so worth it".
More than a trillion dollars, a million lives, ten years of war, countless victims of PTSD (which is damaging beyond belief). On top of all that, like Drag said, how much will this really change anything? I just don't know if I can really believe it was all worth it.
I am almost disgusted by people's reactions to this. I mean, act anyway you want, I don't care, but it's like if you could give one of these crowds his head on a spike, they'd march around with it happily, not seeing anything wrong with that.
Also, people are just so violently intolerant to any opinion that isn't "hooray, Osama's dead!" It's just scary.
And that's my two cents. Also, Obama's speech wasn't that bad.
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I do agree 100% that it was hardly "worth it."
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Well, some people are considering an eye for an eye, but an eye for an eye makes the world go blind. (Not sure if anyone said that yet, but whatever.) As stated already, there are a ton of people waiting to take his place.
Also, there was a controversy about his burial at sea? If I remember correctly, wasn't it because Islamic tradition has to have the body buried within 24 hours and no country would take his body?
Speaking of his burial, what happened to the bodies of people like Hitler, Saddam Hussein, and the likes?
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Well, some people are considering an eye for an eye, but an eye for an eye makes the world go blind. (Not sure if anyone said that yet, but whatever.) As stated already, there are a ton of people waiting to take his place.
This rebuttal quote is only said by people that haven no idea what "an eye for an eye" means. Which is basically everyone >_>
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PS, that was Ghandi.
Who said the "Eye for an eye makes the whole world go blind."
But yeah.
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This rebuttal quote is only said by people that haven no idea what "an eye for an eye" means. Which is basically everyone >_>
It meant something like "You kill a slave we cut your arm off", yes?
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I thought it was "the punishment should fit the crime"
you killed 3 guys? You get killed. 3 times.
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I thought it was "the punishment should fit the crime"
you killed 3 guys? You get killed. 3 times.
It's only a matter of time before we figure out how to raise people from the dead, and then yes, we can kill people as many times as we'd like :)
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Oh boy, Osama dead x12976?
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I think it would be something like Itchy's cloning machine, where it makes a brand new clone and the conveyer belt takes into into a killing machine.
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Speaking of his burial, what happened to the bodies of people like Hitler, Saddam Hussein, and the likes?
No one knows what happened to Hitler's body.
I believe Saddam was burned, but I could be wrong. If anyone knows, I'd be interested.
Honestly, it's a good thing he's gone, and let the people celebrate. He was more a figure head than a actual threat now, but, he still represented a lot to the terrorists, as a man who got away with it.
As far as the billions spent, etc. Remember that Osama was never EVER in Iraq, which is where 90% of that money went. Afghanistan has been held more by Canadian, and British troops while the Americans fought in Iraq to find weapons of mass destruction...
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I think it would be something like Itchy's cloning machine, where it makes a brand new clone and the conveyer belt takes into into a killing machine.
The flaw is that it loses all the fun that way.
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No one knows what happened to Hitler's body.
I believe Saddam was burned, but I could be wrong. If anyone knows, I'd be interested.
Honestly, it's a good thing he's gone, and let the people celebrate. He was more a figure head than a actual threat now, but, he still represented a lot to the terrorists, as a man who got away with it.
As far as the billions spent, etc. Remember that Osama was never EVER in Iraq, which is where 90% of that money went. Afghanistan has been held more by Canadian, and British troops while the Americans fought in Iraq to find weapons of mass destruction...
p. sure the first allies on the scene burned Hitler's corpse.
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Yay he's dead. Now that the two objectives were met we can stop this silly war and ocupation right.
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Right?
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Yay he's dead. Now that the two objectives were met we can stop this silly war and ocupation right.
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Right?
Nope.
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Pretty sure Razor's right about the Iraq thing. Which brings a few questions to mind I'd forgotten about until now...
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You guys all saying this doesn't matter should get off your high horses. If someone catches a serial killer and executes them, does it matter? Not really- except to the families of all the people they murdered. And speaking as someone who's father was at the WTC- YEAH IT ****ing MATTERS. Bastard almost killed my dad, and successfully killed thousands of dads, moms, aunts, uncles, and children.
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I'm sorry Zerl, but it doesn't cost thousands upon thousands of people's lives to catch a serial killer. I understand it hurts and this guy deserves more than even death. But honestly, don't come at us with the "how dare you" for looking at the whole picture and asking a question.
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I'm not saying that it's worth the thousands and thousands of lives- but at least they got him and it brings closure.
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So, apparently people want to see the film of all this. And I can't stop wondering.
Do people really want to see another person getting shot to death?
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A desensitized generation? Yes, it is a strange thing. Just this centuries take on public executions and such, I suppose. Much like when Saddam was hung. I'd be a little surprised if the video didn't leak at some point.
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I personally have no interest in seeing the film (if it exists) or postmortem photos.
I was surprised that Jon Stewart wanted the gov't to release the photos. The way I see it, if one single life is lost due to retaliation over the photos being released, then it wasn't worth it.
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People seem to be denying the man's death. Jon Stewart said that the pictures should be shown to members of the press as a way of dispelling rumors of the man not being dead. You guys are seeing this in the wrong light.
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I don't care about photos so much. We see photos of murders all the time. But I kind of agree with Valiere. A video would be a terrible idea. I'm glad Obama said he wouldn't do it officially.
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I don't think they could fake it since even Osama's own terrorist organization said he's dead. And if the U.S. wanted to fake it, couldn't Osama just release another video being like "Trolled y'all"
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Al Qaeda confirmed bin Laden was dead. What more proof do people need?
And like Zerl said, it would be incredibly stupid to fake it. Bin Laden would inevitably come out of the woodwork, and the political ramifications would be immeasurable.
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But... maybe the US did a pact with Al Qaeda to fake bin Laden's death? It's just another conspiracy!
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Al Qaeda confirmed bin Laden was dead. What more proof do people need?
Wouldn't A-Q benefit from people thinking Osama is dead, though?
Like, if ppl think he is dead they won't search for him until he strikes back?
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I haven't bothered to read the topic past the first page (which was very disappointing, by the way), but his death made me dislike the US and their army even more.
I mean, c'mon. He would die if he had a trial, but they didn't give him one. They shot a ****ing unarmed man and his whole ****ing family.
Sounds pretty bad to me.
edit: okay, read it, still not very happy.
A man died. Okay. He is no worse than many people who are being worshipped all over the world for various reasons. Is he bad? Yeah, you bet. Is it right to kill him like that? Probably not. Is it right to be HAPPY that the man was killed like that, with no chance to defend himself in any way, as well as his family? Yeah, NO. It's not.
Just my thoughts.
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Occam's Razor, my friends.
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Occam's Razor, my friends.
This is that thing where the simplest solution is always the correct?
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The simplest solution is often the right one.
Note the inclusion of the word often.
Yes, I believe this was the right thing to do.
I consider Bin Laden to have been a very, very evil man, and I think he fully deserved what was coming to him.
I know the world isn't so black and white, but still.
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Unsurprisingly, the organization has promised revenge.
It's closure for the victims of 9/11, but it does very little for terrorism.
And I don't think we need another video of someone getting shot in the head. If you REALLY want to see something like that, go look up Budd Dwyer.
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Just for the record, most of his family survived the attack. Just some military person who said that they shot the wife since Usama used her as a meat-shield. Turns out it was pretty much slander since she got hit in the leg.
I won't debate if the man is dead or not. For now I accept that he is dead and forever is gone. If the opposite is proven however - I feel sorry for that Obama person.
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They shot a ****ing unarmed man
Because the fact that he was not holding a small object made of metal and plastic somehow has anything to do with all that terrorist masterminding stuff he has been up to for a while.
Occam's Razor
This is NOT "The simplest solution is often the right one." It's better stated as something like "If two theories have the same ability to predict a solution, then the theory that makes the least number of assumptions often leads to the correct solution."
The difference is subtle but important. For example, I have never died. Therefore, I will live forever. That's a very simple theory. But if the two theories are "I will live forever" and "I will not live forever," the first theory makes a really big assumption - that the fact that millions of human beings have died and nobody has ever lived over 120ish years or so is not an important thing to consider. The second theory does not make this assumption - it treats this data as important. Therefore, Occam's Razor favors the second theory because it makes less assumptions.
Val's use of Occam's Razor is correct because the theory that Usama is dead makes less assumptions than the theory that he is alive and everyone is jointly lying to perpetuate a conspiracy with no discernable value or purpose.
LERN 2 SCIENCE
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Good kill, America. All hundreds upon hundreds of thousands of them. ;)
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Being Air Force I feel a little wierd about this one. I really didn't see any of the crazy parties over this that I saw on tv. (I'm stationed in England right now, and the news casts were all of the states.)
I admit that I'm happy that he's gone. More the feeling one less figurehead that the US has to deal with.
One thing we were ALL celebrating was the fact that he left so much intel unguarded in his house. The information could help bring a closer end to these wars.
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...who the?
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Shut up and except it,missingname.
About! Um... You're back! ...?
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Accept versus except.
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Accept the trophy?
Except that was not supposed to happen.
Anyway, so that's where you went About!
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This is NOT "The simplest solution is often the right one." It's better stated as something like "If two theories have the same ability to predict a solution, then the theory that makes the least number of assumptions often leads to the correct solution."
The difference is subtle but important. For example, I have never died. Therefore, I will live forever. That's a very simple theory. But if the two theories are "I will live forever" and "I will not live forever," the first theory makes a really big assumption - that the fact that millions of human beings have died and nobody has ever lived over 120ish years or so is not an important thing to consider. The second theory does not make this assumption - it treats this data as important. Therefore, Occam's Razor favors the second theory because it makes less assumptions.
Val's use of Occam's Razor is correct because the theory that Usama is dead makes less assumptions than the theory that he is alive and everyone is jointly lying to perpetuate a conspiracy with no discernable value or purpose.
LERN 2 SCIENCE
/applause
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Shut up and except it,missingname.
About! Um... You're back! ...?
I actually lurk a lot, and just post in what's interesting. You may see more of me (once the military stops sucking every ounce of life I've got). :p
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I find it odd that apparently I'm the only one who knew this.
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I totally knew as well
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*high fives*
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"Because the fact that he was not holding a small object made of metal and plastic somehow has anything to do with all that terrorist masterminding stuff he has been up to for a while."
SaiKar, that was a very retarded response. Just saying.
I mean, c'mon. What happened to all the "innocent until proven guilty" bullshit? The guy, as bad as he could've been, deserved a goddamn trial.
Sure. He was evil. He killed thousands of people by ordering those terrorist attacks.
But didn't the US once blow up a couple CITIES in Japan or something? I'm pretty sure that whoever was responsible for that ended up killing WAY more innocent people than Osama.
And I could be wrong about this since I never checked the numbers, but you guys probably killed more innocent people since this whole retarded war started than the other guys did. But I could be wrong about this one.
"Oh no he's so mean he killed all those poor americans". A bunch hypocrites, all of you. No offense.
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No offense.
Buuuuullshiiiiiit.
ed: The **** kind of weird bots are we attracting now?
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Hey, do you guys remember when it was a fad to use edited "Who is online" screenshots on our signatures? Grandy was in our base killing all our dudes, and FFL was doing something, I don't remember what... Yeah, my memory is sucky.
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Strangely enough, I do.
Weird.
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I remember how I was more likely to start my own fads instead of falling into line on existing ones.
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I agree with Archem 1- huh, wait.
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But anyway...
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I had a (legit) screenshot of the forum saying "Kijuki is perfoming an illegal action" and a big smug FOR SHAME under it. Good times.
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But didn't the US once blow up a couple CITIES in Japan or something? I'm pretty sure that whoever was responsible for that ended up killing WAY more innocent people than Osama.
Accepting the killing of bin Laden doesn't mean you accept every single decision the US government has ever made.
I personally feel the bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki was egregiously unnecessary and a war crime on the part of Truman. A number of military officials at the time (including Eisenhower) thought so too.
However, this is entirely different.
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I'd be fine with Bin Laden's death if it had happened after a trial and they said he was guilty. But the way it happened, it was just murder and murder sucks.
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Nah, he would have been guilty, killed, and time/money would have been wasted doing so. On top of that, who's to say that AQ wouldn't have pulled something while we were waiting for the trial?
Sure, it's not how things typically work, but **** him.
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I'd be fine with Bin Laden's death if it had happened after a trial and they said he was guilty. But the way it happened, it was just murder and murder sucks.
You're aware that he already admitted he did it so it would just be a show trial.
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You're aware that he already admitted he did it so it would just be a show trial.
The law is the goddamn law. You write it, you're supposed to follow it. I know that we don't live in a perfect world (and many of the laws are far from perfect) but cops aren't allowed to shoot people in the streets if they say that they are guilty, they need a trial first, and they need to be killed in a more "humane" way. I don't see why it would be different for Bin Laden the the military.
Would you rather die in the chair or by a lethal injection, or be ****ing shot at?
Sure, he was evil, he did evil things. But I don't remember ever hearing about anything in the US law that says that evil people should be shot as soon as they're found and that they don't deserve a trial.
If it's okay to shoot Osama, it's okay to shoot random "evil" guys in the street, as long as you "know" that they did something wrong. Is it? No. It's not.
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Osama was killed in war. It may be a cop out, but you're suggesting the same thing could start happening in the streets of our cities, while not at war. Lucas, that's just not true.
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The law is the goddamn law. You write it, you're supposed to follow it. I know that we don't live in a perfect world (and many of the laws are far from perfect) but cops aren't allowed to shoot people in the streets if they say that they are guilty, they need a trial first, and they need to be killed in a more "humane" way. I don't see why it would be different for Bin Laden the the military.
Would you rather die in the chair or by a lethal injection, or be ****ing shot at?
Sure, he was evil, he did evil things. But I don't remember ever hearing about anything in the US law that says that evil people should be shot as soon as they're found and that they don't deserve a trial.
If it's okay to shoot Osama, it's okay to shoot random "evil" guys in the street, as long as you "know" that they did something wrong. Is it? No. It's not.
Read this please. http://www.nizkor.org/features/fallacies/
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Screw you.
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I love you.
D'AWWWWWW. I love you too!!
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Lucas. If you were thinking about deleting a bunch of stuff on Charas and than blaming me because I didn't do a backup of the site, you may find that a bit difficult.
You're fired as a global mod. You're still staff, but that doesn't give you any actual powers.
I have no idea what sort world you live in where you think that it's okay to take your personal opinions of the actions of the United States government out on people on this forum, but it's not going to be this one while I'm an admin.
Chill. Relax. Leave the computer a while. Go outside. Realize that none of us had anything to do with this. And calm the **** down.
We'll talk about reinstating mod powers later.
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Ah, jeez lucas, what'd you do?
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Wait, what?
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Wait, what is right. I thought for a second lucas went off the handle and deleted something again.
Since that's not the case, first off: you know sai, we DO have a private board. Second: honestly? I mean, really?
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But seriously, I want to see some calming-the-****-down across the board.
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Relevant.
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No, no, please keep it coming! :corn:
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But seriously, I want to see some calming-the-****-down across the board.
This is probably an inappropriate time, but I love you for posting this.
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So, this is the point in time where I wish I hadn't been the one to post this topic. Anyway. Its all said in done, and the US is going to take whatever actions we are going to take, and there will be people angry about it and people happy about it. Nothing will change that at least. I vote end of discussion before someone takes out Forum Gaming again.
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Two words.
Team America
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**** yeah.
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I dunno, I think it might be time to lock this topic and throw it away somewhere.
And who the hell is "Obvious Sock Account"?
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^This.
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And who the hell is "Obvious Sock Account"?
Dom.
And yeah, I think this thread is due for a lock.
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I don't see why, but sure. I'm just going to stop posting here, and if you all do the same it can die in peace without the need for locking.
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I don't see why either. There's no need to lock a thread when an argument gets heated.
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Dren is right. We're not on some sort of weird internet dictatorship, so people should be allowed to say anything they say without being stopped by moderators.
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It is when the argument is completely retarded and one side is completely unwilling to see the other's point of view.
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Needs more Dictators.
But yeah, just not posting in here will pretty much make it feel as if the thread was locked!
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Get over it, people. You take things too personally. Lucas, you were being an ***. Not saying you're modship deserved to be stripped or whatever happened, but it happened. Zerl, you were being an ***, too.
So there. You both could learn a little humility (i.e. not being an ***) Now, you're both friends, so just zerl; apologize and lucas; go back to peeking in through her bathroom window or whatever you do.
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I was never mad at Zerl. She knows that. The "screw you" was mostly sarcastic.
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Keep in mind that sarcasm is difficult to read over the internet, especially in the midst of a heated debate. In the future, a /sarcasm would be useful.
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I'll delete this post if we end up wanting to let this thread die, but...
Looks like our worst fears are coming true. (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110513/ap_on_re_as/as_pakistan)
****ing horrible. I need time to process this.
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Though I hate to admit it, it was pretty much inevitable that this would happen. But that particular article suggests that the Taliban might break off ties with the rest of al-Qaeda now that bin Laden is dead; probably not, but we can always stay optimistic.
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As cold as it may sound, perhaps people will realise that the man behind a group is rarely the thing driving it forward now.
We all knew this would come.
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Get over it, people. You take things too personally. Lucas, you were being an ***. Not saying you're modship deserved to be stripped or whatever happened, but it happened. Zerl, you were being an ***, too.
So there. You both could learn a little humility (i.e. not being an ***) Now, you're both friends, so just zerl; apologize and lucas; go back to peeking in through her bathroom window or whatever you do.
Dude Lucas and I are just joking with each other. He's like my little internet brother. But you misreading it and then lording over us to try and get us to be humble was irony win.
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**** guys, sarcasm on internet doesn't work. Then sai coming in and demodding lucas. It seemed legit to me.
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He's like my little internet brother.
Oh hell naw. He was mine first, so quit trying to butt-in on my turf, reverse-gender.
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**** guys, sarcasm on internet doesn't work. Then sai coming in and demodding lucas. It seemed legit to me.
I can assure you that nothing in this topic directly was the cause of Lucas getting removed as global mod. I know you don't have any faith in me on principle, but I do insist that there was a legitimate and immediately threatening danger when I demodded him and there was no time to discuss it over cups of tea in the private forum to explain.
I don't want to talk about it further right now because I'm already screwing over someone that helped me. Eventually, I'll get around to it.
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If you had a reason, then you had a reason. I assure you, most of the time I am merely poking fun.
Though, it's a shame we couldn't have tea. :(
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Now I'm curious about why you did it. I didn't care when I thought you were being a dick or something, but now that you're nipping sinister conspiracies in the bud, my mind is flooded with imagination plots to assassinate the president or something.
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Get on msn, ask me, I'll explain it.
Sure, it might be a lie, since I'm the guy who just got fired, but who knows.
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Oh hell naw. He was mine first, so quit trying to butt-in on my turf, reverse-gender.
I thought we were in agreement that we could share our things? I mean, we stalk the same people...
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Oh, right. I completely forgot about the sharing clause.
I suppose I should return that set of underwear I've been borrowing...