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Title: Pokemon X and Pokemon Y - October 2013
Post by: A Forgotten Legend on January 08, 2013, 11:13:40 AM
OMG OMG OMG ITS SO BEAUTIFUL.

Its basically a new gen, only the graphics look more like a console game for the 3DS.  Its... beautiful.

http://www.nintendo.co.uk/Misc-/Nintendo-Direct/Latest-Nintendo-Direct/Nintendo-Direct-698557.html (http://www.nintendo.co.uk/Misc-/Nintendo-Direct/Latest-Nintendo-Direct/Nintendo-Direct-698557.html)

And they are releasing it EVERYWHERE at the SAME TIME.  I'm dying right now.  I'm so glad I stayed up for this.
Title: Re: Pokemon X and Pokemon Y
Post by: fruckert on January 08, 2013, 11:26:53 AM
Okay, yeah, that does indeed look pretty awesome.

The new mons are still stupid, though.
Title: Re: Pokemon X and Pokemon Y
Post by: A Forgotten Legend on January 08, 2013, 01:10:25 PM
I like the new fire type.  All the starters seem pretty different compared to starters in the past.  I mean, the fire starter is pretty cool.  I'm interested to see their evolved forms.
Title: Re: Pokemon X and Pokemon Y
Post by: Prpl_Mage on January 08, 2013, 01:17:04 PM
Grass starter reminds too much about oshawott. But it looks great. Guess it was just a matter of time before they went from animated sprites to actual 3d.
I'm glad that they went with a more cellshaded style though. HD graphics on pokemon would just make them look metallic.

So Octboer then, can't wait.
Title: Re: Pokemon X and Pokemon Y - October 2013
Post by: Meiscool on January 08, 2013, 03:19:59 PM
Picking fire, if I ever even play it.
Title: Re: Pokemon X and Pokemon Y - October 2013
Post by: Archem on January 08, 2013, 05:01:46 PM
Well jeez, I'm happy. Look at that fire starter. Looks a little like an Eevee, right? I guess I'll be picking fire once again.

I've only ever picked a non-fire starter one time, and that's in Black 2.
Title: Re: Pokemon X and Pokemon Y - October 2013
Post by: fruckert on January 08, 2013, 06:33:22 PM
I usually roll water, for whatever reason.
Probably because it made Brock really ridiculously easy and that was always fun.
Title: Re: Pokemon X and Pokemon Y - October 2013
Post by: drenrin2120 on January 08, 2013, 07:16:05 PM
I'll have to be getting a 3DS before I purchase this, and that's not very likely... We'll see what happens, I dig the graphics but I'm finding it hard to get excited about buying another pokemon game. Also, those legendaries look dumb as hell.
Title: Re: Pokemon X and Pokemon Y - October 2013
Post by: daoman89 on January 08, 2013, 09:49:44 PM
I still haven't done everything in Black 2...
Title: Re: Pokemon X and Pokemon Y - October 2013
Post by: SaiKar on January 08, 2013, 10:03:30 PM
Huh. A Pokemon game that doesn't look like a slightly souped up version of red and blue. It's about damn time. This might be enough to get me back interested in the series.

Also, dat fire starter man. So awesome.
Title: Re: Pokemon X and Pokemon Y - October 2013
Post by: Moosetroop11 on January 09, 2013, 01:49:11 AM
Alas, I also think the fire starter looks the best. Conforming is poop!

Anyway, I promised myself I'd buy a 3DS if I needed it to play pokemon so I guess I'm getting one! I'm never not buying a new gen pokemon game. Never ever.

I agree the legendaries look rubbish but then... They always do! I haven't liked the legendaries since gold and silver...
Title: Re: Pokemon X and Pokemon Y - October 2013
Post by: Archem on January 09, 2013, 01:55:22 AM
The flying one looks pretty rad. The deer-*** one looks ***.
Title: Re: Pokemon X and Pokemon Y - October 2013
Post by: SaiKar on January 09, 2013, 03:10:05 AM
I agree the legendaries look rubbish but then... They always do! I haven't liked the legendaries since gold and silver...
Giratina had an awesome, totally foreign alien menace thing going. But yeah. Lugia and Ho-oh were surprisingly rad.
Title: Re: Pokemon X and Pokemon Y - October 2013
Post by: Apex on January 09, 2013, 04:05:11 AM
I really hope the game play is faster. I'm doubting they ever change much as far as the battle system goes, due to the mass hysteria that would cause to the hardcore fans.
Title: Re: Pokemon X and Pokemon Y - October 2013
Post by: Bluhman on January 09, 2013, 05:30:17 AM
Fennekin is just wannabe Vulpix.
Title: Re: Pokemon X and Pokemon Y - October 2013
Post by: Archem on January 09, 2013, 06:33:01 AM
Oh, like you've never wanted a Vulpix starter?
Title: Re: Pokemon X and Pokemon Y - October 2013
Post by: Prpl_Mage on January 09, 2013, 07:19:08 PM
As long as it doesn't evolve into another fire/fighting I'm gonna be a happy guy.
Frog looks like **** though, don't think we need more frogs.
Title: Re: Pokemon X and Pokemon Y - October 2013
Post by: fruckert on January 09, 2013, 07:24:59 PM
I actually like the frog.
The ****ing grass chipmunk thing is stupid, though.
Title: Re: Pokemon X and Pokemon Y - October 2013
Post by: A Forgotten Legend on January 09, 2013, 11:16:24 PM
If feel like if it ended up Fire/Fighting then it would start to look a lot like Renamon from the Digimon series...
Title: Re: Pokemon X and Pokemon Y - October 2013
Post by: A Forgotten Legend on January 09, 2013, 11:36:01 PM
Legendary Pokemon names announced:

Xerneas: ZURR-nee-us
Yveltal: ee-VELL-tall.


EDIT:  No clue why I double posted.  Oops.
Title: Re: Pokemon X and Pokemon Y - October 2013
Post by: Archem on January 10, 2013, 12:03:01 AM
I actually like the frog.
The ****ing grass chipmunk thing is stupid, though.
**** you and your bass-ackwards ideas.
Title: Re: Pokemon X and Pokemon Y - October 2013
Post by: fruckert on January 10, 2013, 03:10:18 AM
I REALLY don't like the chipmunk.
The frog's just okay.
The fox is pretty cool, though, if a tad boring.

I just want to see the evos, Oshawott was my least fav last time, and he ended up having my favourite evo.
Title: Re: Pokemon X and Pokemon Y - October 2013
Post by: Archem on January 10, 2013, 03:26:58 AM
I like the grass starter. I really like the fire starter. The water starter looks kind of dumb to me.
Title: Re: Pokemon X and Pokemon Y - October 2013
Post by: Meiscool on January 12, 2013, 04:17:30 PM
The water and grass starters look like things I would intentionally go out of my way to run over while driving.

That said, I agree with the guy who brought up the "wait to see the evos". Though I'm still gonna go with fire, I can see potential for the frog to end up like seismitoad and the grass to end up like shiftry, both cool looking pkmn IMO.
Title: Re: Pokemon X and Pokemon Y - October 2013
Post by: Prpl_Mage on January 12, 2013, 07:02:26 PM
Fully evolved starters always look good. Exception is Meganium. And as long as the fire one isn't another fighting combination it will probably looks pretty darn alright. Pretty much all the starters in Gen 3 looked like **** and turned out great.

Still interested to see the rest of them. And I bet there will be a whole crew of spriters to make the new ones in classic sprite style.

My biggest concern are the animations. I unchecked battle animations in White 2 because it just takes so much time to kill the easiest pokes who insists on not letting you run away. Sure it will look rad as hell, but it can also get a bit tiresome. Like when I played the two Colosseum games - sooo many animations going on that slowed down the battles.
Title: Re: Pokemon X and Pokemon Y - October 2013
Post by: Felix-0 on January 15, 2013, 01:50:14 AM
First time a pokemon game has excited me.  The Fennec Fox looks cute. :3
Title: Re: Pokemon X and Pokemon Y - October 2013
Post by: Moosetroop11 on January 15, 2013, 02:59:24 AM
When I played white I actually managed to avoid seeing almost any pokemon beforehand, so I chose my starter without knowing what it'd evolve into etc.  I'm gonna try to do that again, because the experience was fantastic.  After I've completed the game I'll be all over bulbapedia, of course, but not before, hopefully.
Title: Re: Pokemon X and Pokemon Y - October 2013
Post by: A Forgotten Legend on January 15, 2013, 03:52:09 AM
Well, its official.  All the starters are pure types -- at least in their basic stage.  As for the evolutions, who knows what will happen.
Title: Re: Pokemon X and Pokemon Y - October 2013
Post by: Archem on January 15, 2013, 03:54:55 AM
Well, its official.  All the starters are pure types -- at least in their basic stage.  As for the evolutions, who knows what will happen.
This is about the most obvious statement I've ever seen.
Title: Re: Pokemon X and Pokemon Y - October 2013
Post by: Prpl_Mage on January 15, 2013, 08:06:43 AM
This is about the most obvious statement I've ever seen.

I was thinking the exact same thing.
Title: Re: Pokemon X and Pokemon Y - October 2013
Post by: A Forgotten Legend on January 15, 2013, 09:00:23 PM
Well, I mean, Bulabasaur is Poison/Grass... So its possible to not be!  jeeeez
Title: Re: Pokemon X and Pokemon Y - October 2013
Post by: Prpl_Mage on January 15, 2013, 11:37:32 PM
Well, I mean, Bulabasaur is Poison/Grass... So its possible to not be!  jeeeez

That's true.

Man I'd love to see the fire starter end up fire/water, the grass starter becoming grass/fire and the water starter becoming water/grass. It would totally mess with your head.
Title: Re: Pokemon X and Pokemon Y - October 2013
Post by: daoman89 on January 16, 2013, 12:15:49 AM
I personally like Serebii.net better than Bulbapedia.  It's very well designed for the most part.  It's my go to for whatever info I may need.  I'm gonna pick my starter from a hat because I think it'd be fun. 
Title: Re: Pokemon X and Pokemon Y - October 2013
Post by: Meiscool on January 16, 2013, 05:01:18 PM
Grass/Rock I hope.

Fire/Psychic would be interesting. It would finally be a good special fire starter.

Water.... um.... whatever.
Title: Re: Pokemon X and Pokemon Y - October 2013
Post by: daoman89 on January 16, 2013, 05:19:19 PM
What if they all became dragons? 
Title: Re: Pokemon X and Pokemon Y - October 2013
Post by: fruckert on January 16, 2013, 05:21:26 PM
Frog dragon, I choose you!
Title: Re: Pokemon X and Pokemon Y - October 2013
Post by: Archem on January 16, 2013, 07:12:32 PM
That would be one hell of a change.
Title: Re: Pokemon X and Pokemon Y - October 2013
Post by: daoman89 on January 16, 2013, 11:06:39 PM
People would actually use their starters for online battles more often.  I mean c'mon, dragons are always slightly stronger than all the other pokes.
Title: Re: Pokemon X and Pokemon Y - October 2013
Post by: Prpl_Mage on January 16, 2013, 11:18:03 PM
But starters are already slightly stronger than most pokes as well.
Title: Re: Pokemon X and Pokemon Y - October 2013
Post by: daoman89 on January 17, 2013, 04:25:25 AM
True but theyr not as cool as dragons lol
Title: Re: Pokemon X and Pokemon Y - October 2013
Post by: drenrin2120 on January 18, 2013, 07:05:06 AM
I'm sorry guys, I'm trying, but I just can't get excited about a new pokemon. BW2 did a lot face saving, butthat and  3D graphics still can't make up for almost two decades of recycled crap...

Holy crap, pokemon is almost two decades old.
Title: Re: Pokemon X and Pokemon Y - October 2013
Post by: Archem on January 18, 2013, 08:56:10 AM
butthat
That is my rebuttal.
Title: Re: Pokemon X and Pokemon Y - October 2013
Post by: A Forgotten Legend on January 18, 2013, 09:49:11 AM
I don't think it was crap at all.  Honestly, I enjoy playing 3rd gen more than 2nd and 1st.  But its all really personal preference.  Some people just aren't going to like them.
Title: Re: Pokemon X and Pokemon Y - October 2013
Post by: drenrin2120 on January 18, 2013, 07:07:00 PM
Meh, I don't know. I haven't really enjoyed a pokemon game since 3rd gen. 4th was okay. BW2 was great. That's my personal opinion. What I mean is I'm just sick of Pokemon I guess. =X
Title: Re: Pokemon X and Pokemon Y - October 2013
Post by: Meiscool on January 18, 2013, 07:13:10 PM
If they all became dragon type, the only one that would be used is Water/Dragon. Grass/Dragon is still X4 weak to ice with no real added benefit other than being able to soak up electric damage, and Fire/Dragon is still a dragon that's weak to stone edge and also is weak to the most common physical sweaping move earthquake.

It would be interesting though.
Title: Re: Pokemon X and Pokemon Y - October 2013
Post by: Archem on January 18, 2013, 08:01:13 PM
That is too true.
Title: Re: Pokemon X and Pokemon Y - October 2013
Post by: daoman89 on January 18, 2013, 10:00:30 PM
Maybe they'll make moves/ abilities that will counter the weaknesses?
Title: Re: Pokemon X and Pokemon Y - October 2013
Post by: Prpl_Mage on January 18, 2013, 11:06:29 PM
Sure you can use water sport or stuff like that, but those skills are usually not as effective as actually just swapping in a better option.

Water dragon like Kingdra is awesome because its' only weakness is dragon. Fire dragon like reshiram is kinda useless though, loses the weakness to ice but gets weakness to both rock and ground. Two types that everyone has. Stone edge and earthquake all the way. Still, deals with the ice beam issue.
Dragon grass would be like the worst idea ever. weakness to dragon would remain, 4x damage from ice, still grass weakness to bug, flying and poison. Only weakness that disappear is fire.

I think Red and blue were released like 1998 in europe so team rocket have been after pikachu for the last 15 years.
Title: Re: Pokemon X and Pokemon Y - October 2013
Post by: daoman89 on January 19, 2013, 01:19:39 AM
i'd like to see a fire and water personally.
Title: Re: Pokemon X and Pokemon Y - October 2013
Post by: Meiscool on January 19, 2013, 05:44:01 AM
I'd love to see a fire/water. It would be an amazing tank for those ice beams aimed at your dragons, and since so few pokes can carry ice beam/Hidden power ice effectively and also have a rock/ground move, it would be a pretty safe switch. Opponents would have to think twice about sending in their own ground type as a check.
Weakness to electric keeps it from being OP.

Fire/Grass doesn't really interest me that much though. Basically loses all important weaknesses except to rock, but grass/fire coverage won't get you many places. Maaaaaybe if it is a special sweeper with some sort of gimick and decent movepool (think Serperior with Contrary only viable).
Water/Grass is tried and true, good tank potential. Wouldn't mind seeing another of this type either.
Title: Re: Pokemon X and Pokemon Y - October 2013
Post by: daoman89 on January 19, 2013, 07:51:36 PM
Meiscool does his research.  I agree with you there.  Maybe we'll battle each other during the tournament on the 25th this month if you have black or white 2
Title: Re: Pokemon X and Pokemon Y - October 2013
Post by: Prpl_Mage on January 20, 2013, 10:07:04 AM
I like that they are doing all kinds of crazy combinations in the last two generations. I mean who expected a grass/ice combo or bug/electric? It's nice because the first two generations were kinda predictable with all grass types being part poison and all bugs eventually becoming flying or poison.
And of course that all flying pokes were part normal.

Can't see how water/fire would fail. Just make some sort of steamy poke. Lots of moves to give it such as scald
Title: Re: Pokemon X and Pokemon Y - October 2013
Post by: daoman89 on January 20, 2013, 06:55:26 PM
Yeah, Abomasnow or whatever is a beast when ppl use it against me lol
Title: Re: Pokemon X and Pokemon Y - October 2013
Post by: daoman89 on January 24, 2013, 01:48:12 AM
Off topic slightly but I'm playing online with Black 2 testing my team and I am DESTROYING this asian in a double battle.  And they do the most pathetic pussy-*** thing in the world and disconnect!  Except your defeat like a MAN!!!  The better trainer beat you!!!  RAGE!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Pokemon X and Pokemon Y - October 2013
Post by: Prpl_Mage on January 24, 2013, 07:17:09 AM
Off topic slightly but I'm playing online with Black 2 testing my team and I am DESTROYING this asian in a double battle.  And they do the most pathetic pussy-*** thing in the world and disconnect!  Except your defeat like a MAN!!!  The better trainer beat you!!!  RAGE!!!!!!!!

Sounds like pretty much the players of every game that have a Win/lose statistics showing. Or even better, a win/lose ration displayed as a percentage. People will go great length to keep that in top tip shape.
Lots of online games need to count a disconnect as a loss, happens all the time in fighting games like soul calibur, tekken, mortal kombat, dead or alive ect.
Title: Re: Pokemon X and Pokemon Y - October 2013
Post by: daoman89 on January 24, 2013, 03:08:48 PM
Yep. Disconnect = loss then i wouldnt care
Title: Re: Pokemon X and Pokemon Y - October 2013
Post by: Prpl_Mage on January 24, 2013, 05:26:57 PM
Well at least if your on the losing end. in fighting games its simple, check how many rounds have been won or who have the least hp.

in pokemon we have number of pokemons and hp there as well. can't be so hard for the game to realize which side is winning and granting him it if the loser drops.
Title: Re: Pokemon X and Pokemon Y - October 2013
Post by: Archem on January 24, 2013, 05:52:53 PM
In a game where the tables can so easily be turned, that doesn't work out. The best solution is to have the game read if the connection was legitimately dropped (the system remains on, but the battle has ended, where the system would make a quick save of that information, versus a power down where the next time the system is connected to the internet, it reports no such match, sending back a loss), or to simply count a disconnect as a loss. You could get complicated and count every successive disconnect as a loss (two in a row is one loss, three in a row is two losses, etc.), but it doesn't seem to be as helpful.
Title: Re: Pokemon X and Pokemon Y - October 2013
Post by: Meiscool on January 24, 2013, 06:32:28 PM
I think making Fire weak to Poison would solve all these issues.
Title: Re: Pokemon X and Pokemon Y - October 2013
Post by: daoman89 on January 24, 2013, 09:01:08 PM
So all bug pokemon basically could counter fire pokemon and some grass.  Interesting
Title: Re: Pokemon X and Pokemon Y - October 2013
Post by: Prpl_Mage on August 11, 2013, 09:54:02 AM
Okay gonna kick this because of the latest updates on the game.

So yeah, the fairy type will counter dragons. Yay.

New (reused) pokemon ideas. Seriously, a cute orange electric mouse? http://www.pokemonxy.com/en-us/pokemon/other_pokemon/ (http://www.pokemonxy.com/en-us/pokemon/other_pokemon/)

And an alternative way of training your pokes called super training where you basically play minigames to get your pokes stronger http://www.pokemonxy.com/en-us/whats_new/super_training/ (http://www.pokemonxy.com/en-us/whats_new/super_training/)

Also Horde encounters and sky battles, two new ways to duke it out. Yet to be seen if its' any interesting, kinda like how worthless rotation battle was in the last games.http://www.pokemonxy.com/en-us/whats_new/new_battles/ (http://www.pokemonxy.com/en-us/whats_new/new_battles/)

And lastly the weirdest addition so far... Mega evolution.
Basically, some pokemon (maybe all?) can do a mega evolve only for the duration of the battle where they become OP. So far only blaziken's transformation has been revealed to happen when it holds a blazikenite. AN item only available for download some days after the release. http://www.pokemonxy.com/en-us/pokemon/mega_pokemon/ (http://www.pokemonxy.com/en-us/pokemon/mega_pokemon/)

Title: Re: Pokemon X and Pokemon Y - October 2013
Post by: daoman89 on August 11, 2013, 04:07:15 PM
im interested in all the new features, but i cant judge them for reasons of lacking information about them.  im positive theyll make it work though.
Title: Re: Pokemon X and Pokemon Y - October 2013
Post by: ellie-is on August 11, 2013, 05:12:26 PM
Yeah, I'm going to be playing this game, alright.
Title: Re: Pokemon X and Pokemon Y - October 2013
Post by: daoman89 on August 11, 2013, 08:58:25 PM
Yeah, I'm going to be playing this game, alright.

True that.  I can tell they're putting in a lot of work for these games and the battle sequences look great.  The online trading and battling features are going to be greatly improved as well.  You can do that stuff whenever you want instead of having to run to the pokemon center.  This is where I get all my information from http://www.serebii.net/xy/ (http://www.serebii.net/xy/)

I read the Mega Evolutions are limited to only 1 pokemon per trainer at a time.  That could bring in quite the twist, maybe you're getting your butt handed to you and that mega pokemon can help bring you back into the match.  The evolution makes you more powerful, but at the price of not being able to hold an item, which play a crucial role at times.  I just hope there's a mega dunsparce because he needs it and he's the man!  But in all seriousness, they need to evolve that thing or something because he is pointless.  He's just there in Gen II.
Title: Re: Pokemon X and Pokemon Y - October 2013
Post by: DragonBlaze on August 11, 2013, 10:24:55 PM
I haven't been able to get into pokemon games for a while now, but I'll probably give this a shot. I just hope there's a way to get some of my favorite pokemon from the earlier games without going to some event or trading.
Title: Re: Pokemon X and Pokemon Y - October 2013
Post by: A Forgotten Legend on August 12, 2013, 01:15:13 AM
I... still haven't left cloud nine about this pokemon game.  Seriously.
Title: Re: Pokemon X and Pokemon Y - October 2013
Post by: Archem on August 12, 2013, 01:22:41 AM
Yes, it does look like some sort of Pokémon Prime. It's one step closer to a true 3D Pokémon game, and I love it.
Title: Re: Pokemon X and Pokemon Y - October 2013
Post by: daoman89 on August 12, 2013, 01:53:57 AM
When the game comes out, we might as well get each other's friend codes so we can trade and battle and other crap.

Game Freak is trying to get people hype I guess.  I think all the pokemon just went super saiyan...

Pokémon X and Pokémon Y: Three New Mega Pokémon Revealed! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BftrqE2CQiQ#ws)
Title: Re: Pokemon X and Pokemon Y - October 2013
Post by: A Forgotten Legend on August 12, 2013, 02:42:16 AM
The music makes me think power rangers, the evolution makes me think Digimon, and the pokemon just make me jizz my pants.  That makes the third time I've watched that trailer.
Title: Re: Pokemon X and Pokemon Y - October 2013
Post by: Meiscool on August 12, 2013, 05:18:24 AM
Oh god, mega Mawile. I've always wanted a reason to use that thing.
Title: Re: Pokemon X and Pokemon Y - October 2013
Post by: ellie-is on August 12, 2013, 02:57:06 PM
Generation V came out with a bunch of new mechanics, that were, in my opinion, incredibly silly and childish.
This new generation is coming out with a bunch of new mechanics, that are, in my opinion, incredibly awesome.
Title: Re: Pokemon X and Pokemon Y - October 2013
Post by: daoman89 on August 12, 2013, 03:32:07 PM
Generation V came out with a bunch of new mechanics, that were, in my opinion, incredibly silly and childish.
This new generation is coming out with a bunch of new mechanics, that are, in my opinion, incredibly awesome.

What mechanics are you speaking of?  I'm going to assume one of them was the pokemon dress up and the movie creator thing in BW2. 

They should bring back the Pokemon World Tournament from BW2 because that was just freakin' awesome.  And they should also make hard mode available from the start, not after the Elite 4.
Title: Re: Pokemon X and Pokemon Y - October 2013
Post by: Prpl_Mage on August 12, 2013, 03:51:58 PM
I'm glad that these aren't actual evolutions, the amount of pokemons would increase by 30% or something otherwsise. Kinda makes you think that maybe it would've been a good idea to wait with throwing in those evolutions such as tangrowth, lickilicky, yamnega and some others. That appears to be pretty much the same thing as these new mega pokes.
Title: Re: Pokemon X and Pokemon Y - October 2013
Post by: daoman89 on August 13, 2013, 03:06:35 AM
I strongly believe that the mega evolution for Charizard will be Fire/Dragon and Gyarados Water/Dragon.  I mean Ampharos randomly becomes a dragon too...  I don't wanna see Mega Dragonite because that wouldn't be fair.
Title: Re: Pokemon X and Pokemon Y - October 2013
Post by: A Forgotten Legend on August 13, 2013, 03:52:59 AM
That's if those pokemon get mega evolutions.  Not all pokemon do, so I'm interested to see which ones.  Kangaskhan's Mega evolution is pretty awesome though.
Title: Re: Pokemon X and Pokemon Y - October 2013
Post by: Prpl_Mage on August 13, 2013, 08:58:49 AM
I'd love to see a mega wailord, aggron or something. I just wonder if they'll do more fuse forms like the white/black kyruem in b/w-2. If so, this could just elevate pokemon to a whole new level.

Also, want more mega legendaries beside mewtwo.
Title: Re: Pokemon X and Pokemon Y - October 2013
Post by: daoman89 on August 13, 2013, 03:51:42 PM
I'm going to assume all the starters would get mega forms, because that would be mean if typhlosion didnt get one.  Like i said before, there's not much info about it so it could be all final evolutions have mega forms or maybe only 100 do.
Title: Re: Pokemon X and Pokemon Y - October 2013
Post by: Prpl_Mage on August 13, 2013, 05:57:27 PM
Maybe just the ones that people like?
Title: Re: Pokemon X and Pokemon Y - October 2013
Post by: daoman89 on August 13, 2013, 06:28:46 PM
We'll see though.  Castform needs a mega form.
Title: Re: Pokemon X and Pokemon Y - October 2013
Post by: DragonBlaze on August 14, 2013, 12:36:37 AM
I'm really hoping a really lame/dumb pokemon gets a kick *** mega evolution, kind of like how Magikarp evolves into Garados. Maybe Mr. Mime can mega evolve into Pedobear.
Title: Re: Pokemon X and Pokemon Y - October 2013
Post by: Archem on August 14, 2013, 01:06:13 AM
Mega Garbador. **** it.
Title: Re: Pokemon X and Pokemon Y - October 2013
Post by: daoman89 on August 14, 2013, 01:15:42 AM
Dunsparce transforms into a fuckin' god!  "You thought I was useless for the past 4 generations!?  Well now it's time for me to **** y'all up!!!"
Title: Re: Pokemon X and Pokemon Y - October 2013
Post by: Prpl_Mage on October 11, 2013, 12:24:44 PM
Received the game today (which is odd) and it's a huge step up from the earlier games. Gonna update later, kinda busy here.
only issue I have is that you move one "tile at a time" still, even though you have a neat 3d avatar and everything.

Went with Chespin btw.

scratch the movemen issue, it got remedied with an item.
Title: Re: Pokemon X and Pokemon Y - October 2013
Post by: DragonBlaze on October 12, 2013, 09:08:24 PM
I caved and bought version Y >.>

It should arrive Monday :)
Title: Re: Pokemon X and Pokemon Y - October 2013
Post by: drenrin2120 on October 13, 2013, 06:50:18 AM
Dear god, if I ever buy x or y, it will be all of your faults.
Title: Re: Pokemon X and Pokemon Y - October 2013
Post by: Prpl_Mage on October 14, 2013, 06:23:48 AM
So an update although I suppose that all of you already own the game.
I really love some of the new type combinations like psy/dark and fight/fly. I also love some of the new pokes, the fossil for example, araura got an ability called refrigerate that turns all normal type attacks into ice type damage (the poke itself is ice of course).
It's still a bit confusing with the fairy type. It's resistant to fighting and dark, so all those normal types that you usually killed with a double kick? Yeah, they like, survive and stuff. Weakness so far is poison and steel. Finally some increased use of those moves.

I have now turned off the animations. Although I wish I could just hold down a speed button to make it go at a 150-200% speed but whatever. I just couldn't stand how long every battle became. Especially against a trainer with like 4 pokes.

Other good things:
Character customization. Visit a barbershop to change hairstyle and colour, visit boutiques to get some new duds.
Affection checker, name rater and daycare pretty early in the game (like, before the 2nd gym)
Pokemon amnie, a lower screen minigame that lets you work towards raising pokes affection without having to bike 30000 steps.
Super training, a really (as in really) useful lower screen minigame you can use to raise the EV's of your pokes. Aka, what stats will get the extra oomph next level up.

So yeah, I love the game, still haven't encountered any mega evolutions. Going through a busy two weeks now so I won't be playing a lot though.
Title: Re: Pokemon X and Pokemon Y - October 2013
Post by: daoman89 on October 14, 2013, 02:11:25 PM
The game's word.  I don't mind the animations, don't know why, just do.  I think my mans are overleveled, but idk, some fights manage to faint my pokemans every now and then (not all of them, just 1 or 2).
Title: Re: Pokemon X and Pokemon Y - October 2013
Post by: Archem on October 14, 2013, 04:46:07 PM
So you know what's annoying? When you pre-order something online and they miss the Saturday delivery date. The mail doesn't run on Sundays, and we don't typically get our mail until late in the afternoon.

So yeah.
Title: Re: Pokemon X and Pokemon Y - October 2013
Post by: Prpl_Mage on October 14, 2013, 06:53:31 PM
I guess that's why we recieved it on Friday already. I blame nintendo for bad release date though.

And regarding overleveling. Make sure to turn OFF the exp share, that thing be broken. The leader loses no exp and the other gets 50% of that exp for themselves.
Title: Re: Pokemon X and Pokemon Y - October 2013
Post by: DragonBlaze on October 15, 2013, 04:48:40 PM
I'm glad I didn't pre-order, just ordered Saturday and got it Monday :)

So far I think the game itself is great. They did a great job moving from 2D to 3D without really losing the classic look and feel. The 3D battles are more epic, the addition of cutscenes here and there gives the game more depth. There's also a lot of little things they do that make the game more immersive.

It's like they kept the good stuff, and just added more good stuff.
Title: Re: Pokemon X and Pokemon Y - October 2013
Post by: Prpl_Mage on October 15, 2013, 06:09:49 PM
Just had to come here and point out that Mega Charizard Y is awesome. It gets the draught ability (auto sunny day) and some hunky stats. Things die.
Title: Re: Pokemon X and Pokemon Y - October 2013
Post by: daoman89 on October 16, 2013, 07:22:44 PM
I guess that's why we recieved it on Friday already. I blame nintendo for bad release date though.

And regarding overleveling. Make sure to turn OFF the exp share, that thing be broken. The leader loses no exp and the other gets 50% of that exp for themselves.

So that's why I was 13 levels higher than everyone... LOL!  Didn't the person who gave it to you in the game say that the fighting pokemon gets 50% and the others get the remaining 50% divided up?  The game would've been much harder if I hadn't been using it then.  Not a big deal to me though. 
Title: Re: Pokemon X and Pokemon Y - October 2013
Post by: Meiscool on October 17, 2013, 03:05:15 AM
Anyone got any info on that steel ghost? Looks sweet to me but bulbapedia and other places have no info on it.
Title: Re: Pokemon X and Pokemon Y - October 2013
Post by: Prpl_Mage on October 17, 2013, 06:06:28 AM
Yes, I use the **** out of Honedge. You can get it pretty early in the grass around a mansion of sorts. Great attack and Def, bad Sp atk and speed. HP is so and so. Starts to learn all the great moves after evolving into Duoblade. How can you say no to something with Sacred sword and night slash? Starts with sword dance, can learn iron defence and power trick(or swap, can't remember the name).
Ghost removes steel weakness to fighting, the fire and ground weakness is still there though and can be problematic. Unsure if it can come with levitate, mine came with no guard. And for some reason, Steel is no longer resistant against dark so dark still deals SE damage. Also, ghost is one of the few types that steel doesn't resist so that's still SE as well. On the bright side, the probably exchanged the dark resistance because steel is now resistant to fairy. And steel is SE against fairy as well. Loads of fairy types out there now.
Oh, and a third evolution, although not as cool. You need a stone for that.

PS: duoblade looks cooler than aegislash though.

PSS: should probably explain aegislash ability. Basically, in blade forme you take a bunch of def/sp def and add it to your attack perimeters. This mode will be activated right before you use any move that harm the enemy. Then we have shiled forme which is the start forme and have terrible attack and sp attack but amazing def and sp def, it is reactivated by using a non-attack like sword's dance.
Summery: when attacking you are a glascannon but you can buff your attack safely with sword dance before starting attacking.

So that's why I was 13 levels higher than everyone... LOL!  Didn't the person who gave it to you in the game say that the fighting pokemon gets 50% and the others get the remaining 50% divided up?  The game would've been much harder if I hadn't been using it then.  Not a big deal to me though. 

Well in that case the NPC is lying. What happens is that you still recieve full EXP, and everyone else gets 50% of that and the IVs.

So if you defeat something worth 1200 exp. The leader gets that exp. with exp share ON, the leader gets 1200 exp, and everyone else gets 600. So I would turn it OFF. I usually just turn it on for gym battles since in the end there's probably just gonna be 1-2 pokes clearing the entire thing.
Title: Re: Pokemon X and Pokemon Y - October 2013
Post by: Archem on October 17, 2013, 08:10:19 AM
So Zigzagoon. Never really cared for them in the past. They are now my favorite.

So.

FUCKING.

Adorable.
Title: Re: Pokemon X and Pokemon Y - October 2013
Post by: Meiscool on October 17, 2013, 04:34:11 PM
Stuff

Sounds pretty sweet. I'm pretty glad his switch ability doesn't suck. It seems pretty useful.

Anyone try the water started with protean yet?
Title: Re: Pokemon X and Pokemon Y - October 2013
Post by: Prpl_Mage on October 17, 2013, 04:53:33 PM
Sounds pretty sweet. I'm pretty glad his switch ability doesn't suck. It seems pretty useful.

I have to point out that I reloaded my game after evolving it. I couldn't stand having that ability myself. I can definitely see a lot of people finding this useful and tactical, I'm just not one of those people. Also, duoblade looks way cooler.
Statwise there wasn't much progress since the last form except the special stats and speed. But I wasn't comfortable with it turning into a glascannon considering how your defense stats are lowered to that of a lvl 25 while attacking. And let's face it, I usually attack things. And they're not gonna die in one hit.
Title: Re: Pokemon X and Pokemon Y - October 2013
Post by: daoman89 on October 18, 2013, 03:28:25 AM
Well in that case the NPC is lying. What happens is that you still recieve full EXP, and everyone else gets 50% of that and the IVs.

So if you defeat something worth 1200 exp. The leader gets that exp. with exp share ON, the leader gets 1200 exp, and everyone else gets 600. So I would turn it OFF. I usually just turn it on for gym battles since in the end there's probably just gonna be 1-2 pokes clearing the entire thing.

Yeah, i don't like that EV share.  I don't want my non fighters to get EVs.  I'm very picky about what stats get what amount of effort value points.  And just a fun fact... [spoiler]Mega Aggron's defense can hit over 600[/spoiler]
Title: Re: Pokemon X and Pokemon Y - October 2013
Post by: DragonBlaze on October 18, 2013, 03:44:27 AM
I like exp. share on... The issue I had with most of the past games is my main pokemon (and possibly a side pokemon or two) would be way higher than everyone I fought, but my other pokemon would be so much lower, that they got their asses kicked to the point where I didn't want to use them. It would be nice if ALL of your pokemon got 50% exp, but I think the way it is right now is still better than having 4 of my 6 pokemon un-usable.
Title: Re: Pokemon X and Pokemon Y - October 2013
Post by: Prpl_Mage on October 18, 2013, 05:59:28 AM
Problem with it now is that All your pokes easily get way higher than everyone you fight.
Title: Re: Pokemon X and Pokemon Y - October 2013
Post by: oooog on October 18, 2013, 10:31:42 PM
Managed to get my hands on a Protean Froakie.

5026 - 4424 - 1098
Title: Re: Pokemon X and Pokemon Y - October 2013
Post by: DragonBlaze on October 18, 2013, 11:48:00 PM
Managed to get my hands on a Protean Froakie.

5026 - 4424 - 1098

WTF is a Protean Froakle?
Title: Re: Pokemon X and Pokemon Y - October 2013
Post by: oooog on October 18, 2013, 11:57:01 PM
Froakie's alternate ability

Changes the Pokémon's type to the type of the move it's using.
Title: Re: Pokemon X and Pokemon Y - October 2013
Post by: Prpl_Mage on October 19, 2013, 06:32:08 AM
Froakie's alternate ability

Changes the Pokémon's type to the type of the move it's using.

And how did you do that?
Title: Re: Pokemon X and Pokemon Y - October 2013
Post by: oooog on October 19, 2013, 03:31:52 PM
Some nice Japanese dude on Wonder Trade.  Got it, bred it like crazy, and now I have a platoon of them to distribute for presents or leverage.  Anyone got a Chlorophyll Bulbasaur?
Title: Re: Pokemon X and Pokemon Y - October 2013
Post by: daoman89 on October 19, 2013, 11:07:07 PM
For those who cannot find good poke info, use Serebii.net. The site is great!  I would like a Protean Froakie too 4768-7532-9706. Ive added u Ooog.
Title: Re: Pokemon X and Pokemon Y - October 2013
Post by: daoman89 on October 20, 2013, 04:02:37 AM
So one of my aquaintances randomly wanted to battle me and i made the mistake of picking only 3 monsters instead of 6.  So let me share a video of how beast Aegislash is!

Youll need a VS Recorder i believe: TK5W-WWWW-WWWX-YP5H
Title: Re: Pokemon X and Pokemon Y - October 2013
Post by: ZeroKirbyX on October 20, 2013, 06:33:05 AM
Isn't there like a friend code thread?
Title: Re: Pokemon X and Pokemon Y - October 2013
Post by: HackersTotalMassLaser on October 20, 2013, 05:05:44 PM
Yes but this is game specific: 5386 7961 4565
Title: Re: Pokemon X and Pokemon Y - October 2013
Post by: DragonBlaze on October 20, 2013, 06:31:06 PM
Ah what the hell.

4914-3526-7522
Title: Re: Pokemon X and Pokemon Y - October 2013
Post by: daoman89 on October 20, 2013, 06:53:41 PM
For those who missed it previous page: 4768-7532-9706
Title: Re: Pokemon X and Pokemon Y - October 2013
Post by: Momeka on October 20, 2013, 07:05:28 PM
[spoiler]Well I do need more people in my safari. I got the dragon type.[/spoiler]

3282-2922-1520
Title: Re: Pokemon X and Pokemon Y - October 2013
Post by: oooog on October 21, 2013, 11:43:52 PM
Yes but this is game specific: 5386 7961 4565

Sir, thank you.  1,000 times thank you.  Your Friend Safari is spectacular.
Title: Re: Pokemon X and Pokemon Y - October 2013
Post by: daoman89 on October 22, 2013, 02:42:55 AM
One of yall gave me wild ivysaurs.  Thank u!  Idr who though.  Time to get some hidden ability ivysaurs and ill share them with whoever.
Title: Re: Pokemon X and Pokemon Y - October 2013
Post by: Prpl_Mage on October 22, 2013, 06:13:44 AM
Just got access to the safari so I'm adding you all, 3222-6667-4919
Title: Re: Pokemon X and Pokemon Y - October 2013
Post by: HackersTotalMassLaser on October 22, 2013, 07:10:57 AM
Anyone mind telling me what pokemon I give you on the safari and type? Im Vexas
Title: Re: Pokemon X and Pokemon Y - October 2013
Post by: Prpl_Mage on October 22, 2013, 01:23:13 PM
Okay so Dave (Daoman I suppose) got me a panarichu, heloptile and zebstrika
Isaac granted me an Ivysaur,  pansage and quilladin
Momeka netted me a noibat, gabite and sliggoo
I (Fred) apparently gives Venomoth, Seviper and Muk

So, do these things change as the days pass or something or should I just find a forum or something with friendcodes to people owning this game?
Title: Re: Pokemon X and Pokemon Y - October 2013
Post by: Momeka on October 22, 2013, 02:07:39 PM
I'm pretty sure they are all set.

Anyone know how to get the third pokemon in the safari? So far I only gotten two from the ones I added from charas.
Title: Re: Pokemon X and Pokemon Y - October 2013
Post by: daoman89 on October 22, 2013, 03:21:43 PM
I'm pretty sure they are all set.

Anyone know how to get the third pokemon in the safari? So far I only gotten two from the ones I added from charas.

They need to be online while you're in their safari I believe. 
Title: Re: Pokemon X and Pokemon Y - October 2013
Post by: HackersTotalMassLaser on October 22, 2013, 05:06:29 PM
Oh that's right, Im isaac, Purple, you give Poison Types, Venemoth and Siviper.
Title: Re: Pokemon X and Pokemon Y - October 2013
Post by: Prpl_Mage on October 22, 2013, 05:23:25 PM
I got my third when I connected to the RSS internets and the other one was online at the same time.
Title: Re: Pokemon X and Pokemon Y - October 2013
Post by: HackersTotalMassLaser on October 22, 2013, 05:30:02 PM
You also got me a muk while u were online
Title: Re: Pokemon X and Pokemon Y - October 2013
Post by: Momeka on October 22, 2013, 06:15:11 PM
God damn, Hacker, I got both an Ivysaur and a Quilladin in your safari.
Title: Re: Pokemon X and Pokemon Y - October 2013
Post by: Moosetroop11 on October 22, 2013, 06:15:46 PM
I haven't read any of the posts so far to avoid spoilers, but so far my massive problem is how many old pokemon there are. If I go into a cave in a new pokemon game I'm excited because I don't know what new things I'm going to find. At the moment I'm finding the same old machops etc I've already seen. What's the point? Am I just playing this for the plot or something? Because I don't give a toss about the plot. I just like discovering and training new pokemon.
Title: Re: Pokemon X and Pokemon Y - October 2013
Post by: Prpl_Mage on October 22, 2013, 06:41:23 PM
I updated my post, got a Quilladin and a sliggoo.

And I think this generation added the least new pokes. Like 60-70 or so. They are around though. But you don't want to get it spoiled so I won't spoil where to look for them
But there are several that more or less only appear at one route making them easy to miss.
Title: Re: Pokemon X and Pokemon Y - October 2013
Post by: oooog on October 22, 2013, 07:34:33 PM
If you invest enough time searching while Hackers is online, you can get an Ivysaur with Chlorophyll and a Quilladin with Bulletproof.

I don't know what 2 of my Pokemon are, but I am Bug type and offer Heracross.
Title: Re: Pokemon X and Pokemon Y - October 2013
Post by: daoman89 on October 22, 2013, 07:45:33 PM
i lied. elite four completion fron ur friend grants 3 pokemon and when theyr online its a chance to get their hidden abilities.
Title: Re: Pokemon X and Pokemon Y - October 2013
Post by: Prpl_Mage on October 26, 2013, 06:47:06 AM
So, I still haven't become friends with DB or Ooog, what kind of flashy pokes are you keeping me from?

Currently spending a ton of time training pokes and evolving them. Got all of the latest gen up and running, currently going about all the ones I have found mega stones for. And playing super training to get evolution stones.

Anyone know where to find schyter, shuppet and abra btw?
Title: Re: Pokemon X and Pokemon Y - October 2013
Post by: oooog on October 26, 2013, 07:37:51 PM
I've got a Heracross, but that's about it.

I've been adding other people like a mug though.  I've got both sets of starters with their hidden ability as well as my army of Ditto sets.

There's also a handy map here:
http://kotaku.com/every-pokemon-you-can-catch-in-x-y-in-one-handy-map-1452442093 (http://kotaku.com/every-pokemon-you-can-catch-in-x-y-in-one-handy-map-1452442093)
with all the Pokemon.  For your case though:

Scyther - Route 21
|||Megastone - Frozen Cavern behind Abomasnow

Shuppet - Pokemon Village on Thursday
|||Megastone - Cave of Emptiness

Abra - Route 5
|||Megastone - Reflecting Cave B3

Incidentally, I have all 3 to spare, so I could just trade them to you as well.
5026 - 4424 - 1098
Title: Re: Pokemon X and Pokemon Y - October 2013
Post by: daoman89 on October 27, 2013, 12:06:01 AM
How'd you get more than one?  Or do you just not want those stones?
Title: Re: Pokemon X and Pokemon Y - October 2013
Post by: Prpl_Mage on October 27, 2013, 12:34:20 AM
I think he's talking about the pokemon and not the megastones.

Got an abra and schyter, banette was too tricky though.
Title: Re: Pokemon X and Pokemon Y - October 2013
Post by: oooog on October 27, 2013, 12:48:19 AM
Ah yes, I forgot to specify the individual Pokemon.  On a side note, some generous person on Wonder Trade gave me another Abomasnow with it's stone, so cool there.

Off topic, but I'm proud of this, over the last 3 hours I successfully bred a Modest Protean Froakie with max IVs in all but Attack and raised it to level 50.  And to top it off, I managed to keep it in it's Dive Ball.
Title: Re: Pokemon X and Pokemon Y - October 2013
Post by: daoman89 on October 27, 2013, 02:17:48 AM
Ahhh, well nevermind lol.

Did anyone happen to watch the battle where i made the person i was battling cry? lol :D
Title: Re: Pokemon X and Pokemon Y - October 2013
Post by: Prpl_Mage on October 27, 2013, 07:19:49 AM
Ahhh, well nevermind lol.

Did anyone happen to watch the battle where i made the person i was battling cry? lol :D

Yes, yes I did. King's shield sure is overpowered. Also, the person you fought had some bad luck. y'know, since your king's shield kept succeeding. Also, because the guy didn't have any status altering moves. Like poison or paralyze or heck, attack lower.
Title: Re: Pokemon X and Pokemon Y - October 2013
Post by: daoman89 on October 27, 2013, 01:07:24 PM
Yes, yes I did. King's shield sure is overpowered. Also, the person you fought had some bad luck. y'know, since your king's shield kept succeeding. Also, because the guy didn't have any status altering moves. Like poison or paralyze or heck, attack lower.

He battled like a fool for the most part.  The King's shield will always succeed if you don't use it back to back.  Shield, attack, shield, attack, u get it.  Like protect, but better against attackers.  And i bet he did, he just didn't know he could use those status moves.  I mean c'mon, he used Me First with Lucario.  He probably wouldn't have killed Aegis with it, but he still could've put a minor dent in his health.  Of course I'm gonna use my fighting move so i don't get hurt.  His biggest mistake was at the beginning with his Blaziken.  The fact that he tried to use Sky Uppercut which wasted an entire turn. 

But yeah, he didn't have bad luck.  When I did use King's shield twice in a row it failed or i was just tryna stay in shield mode.  This battle is a prime example of how you can have great pokemon, but still get your butt spanked if you battle poorly like he did or make as little as ONE boo boo.  I went in that battle strongly believing I would lose, but hey, what did i know lol
Title: Re: Pokemon X and Pokemon Y - October 2013
Post by: oooog on October 27, 2013, 05:06:04 PM
When I'm prepared, I'd like to test out my anti-Aegislash strategy.  So be expecting a challenge here in the near future.
Title: Re: Pokemon X and Pokemon Y - October 2013
Post by: daoman89 on October 27, 2013, 10:27:56 PM
I only get mad when the asians beat me because they cheat and had all the good pokemon in black and white 2.  It'll be fun to have a nice little battle with anyone for fun.  I don't have a set team ready yet or anything so don't expect much a fight from me for the time being lol
Title: Re: Pokemon X and Pokemon Y - October 2013
Post by: oooog on October 27, 2013, 11:11:05 PM
I don't think anyone can transfer their Pokemon yet.  I may be mistaken though, but the Bank and Transporter aren't set for release until the 25th of December, and the 27th for us on the western front.

I can already foresee Aegislash becoming a regular, even overused Pokemon (see Weavile, Blissey, Garchomp, etc.), so having knowledge on how to fight one beforehand will be beneficial.  Right now my team is only half complete, as I'm waiting for certain safari's to open up for me. Also have to rack up a little BP, but that shouldn't be more than an hours work.
Title: Re: Pokemon X and Pokemon Y - October 2013
Post by: daoman89 on October 28, 2013, 12:20:18 AM
Interesting team. I have like 20 or so in black 2 eager to go to the bank lol.  My favorite might be Strife, aka Scizor female. Shes my girl.
Title: Re: Pokemon X and Pokemon Y - October 2013
Post by: DragonBlaze on October 28, 2013, 06:44:50 PM
It's hard to care about coming up with good strategies when you just decimate every enemy in the game without an effort...
Title: Re: Pokemon X and Pokemon Y - October 2013
Post by: daoman89 on October 28, 2013, 07:19:49 PM
I was hoping for a hard mode like they did with post game black 2, except.... from the start.  It'll probably happen with pokemon Z when they add all the major extra awesome ****. 

Does anyone have a Bulletproof Chespin they're willin' to trade?  Isaac is nv online for me to find a wild Quilladin when I'm on so I might as well just ask here lol
Title: Re: Pokemon X and Pokemon Y - October 2013
Post by: oooog on October 28, 2013, 09:43:27 PM
I think I have a Bulletproof Chespin somewhere.

In regards to decimating everything with ease in the main game, there are steps you can take to add a little challenge to the game without going out of your way.  While playing, I personally never used healing items in battle, had my battle type as set, and the most important thing was to turn off EXP Share.

In regards to tournaments, my particular circle of friends have agreed upon a certain hybrid of rules using both the official Pokemon rules, as well as those from Smogon.  There have been a few amendments what with the addition of Mega evolutions.
Title: Re: Pokemon X and Pokemon Y - October 2013
Post by: daoman89 on October 28, 2013, 11:24:13 PM
I dont mind being competitive, but some ppl just think theres only a couple of ways a pokemon should be used and its like shut up and have fun haha.
Title: Re: Pokemon X and Pokemon Y - October 2013
Post by: oooog on October 29, 2013, 12:00:25 AM
I would disagree to some extent.  I agree, play to have fun and do what you want to do, but it is a fact that Pokemon can be played only a certain amount of ways efficiently.  The competitive advice is there to show you that Charizard makes a hell of a lot better sweeper than a wall.

If any of you were wondering, I'm going to toss this in here.

[spoiler]
Our tournament rules are thus:

Duplicate clause
Item clause
Sleep clause

And here's where it gets complicated.  We allow the three semi-legendaries of every generation, as well as the dragon.
Articuno, Zapdos, Moltres, Dragonite, Raikou, Entei, Suicune, Tyranitar, Regirock, Regice, Registeel, Metagross, Salamence, Azelf, Uxie, Mesprit, Garchomp, and whatever the White and Black ones were (didn't really pay much attention to that generation.)

This is because the official Pokemon tournament rules allow for Garchomp, because it evolves at 49.  If you compare it's base stats with the other Dragons, you will find that they are equal, but Garchomps evolves early so it's in their under 50 rule.  However, when you examine these Dragons base stats, you will notice they equal a total of 600.  Take a look at one of the three legendary birds or dogs.  Go on, I'll wait.  Click on that link down there.

http://www.psypokes.com/bw/basestats.php (http://www.psypokes.com/bw/basestats.php)

...

You will notice that their total stats are only 580!  Crazy right?  These legendary Pokemon are weaker than the dragons.  Therefore, they are allowed (in our rules.)  However, you may only use one.  If you decide to build a sandstorm team, you are advised to use Tyranitar or Garchomp, but you cannot use both.

Essentially the only banned Pokemon are:
Mewtwo, Mew, Ho-oh, Lugia, Celebi, Latios, Latias, Kyogre, Groudon, Rayquaza, Deoxys, Jirachi, Dialga, Palkia, Giratina, Heatran, Regigigas, Cresselia, Manaphy, Darkrai, Arceus, Shaymin, Tornadus, Thundurus, Reshiram, Zekrom, Landorus, Kyurem, Keldeo, Meloetta, Genesect, and the legendary 6th gen Pokemon.

Now, you may have noticed there are a few Pokemon in there that have 600 or less base stats, making them equal to the dragons.  oooog, why wouldn't they be allowed?  Well, I believe they should be allowed personally, though popular opinion when these rules were formed voted in favor of banning, so they're banned.  I've no problem with using say Darkrai, for it is within the confines of the dragon clause, but alas, I may have organized the tournament, but I've stepped down as 'leader' and we have a full democracy thing going on where my say has no more power than my peers.

All of this because Garchomp is allowed.  If Garchomp was disallowed then this process would be a whole lot simpler.

Note 1: I'm aware Metagross is not dragon type, that's just what we refer to that tier of Pokemon.

Note 2: Slaking may have a base stat of 670, but it's ability is what makes it legal.  If you're willing to use the Mismagius strategy and effective sacrifice a slot to make it usable, than by all means.

[/spoiler]

You may call it silly, but in all of the official and unofficial tournaments, these rules allow for the most creativity in team building while keeping things balanced.
Title: Re: Pokemon X and Pokemon Y - October 2013
Post by: daoman89 on October 29, 2013, 12:47:06 AM
Oh my god you'd be an idiot if you made charizard a wall lol.  I've encountered some Prehistoric Form or whatever its called Landorus before.  It was so unfair.  And for whatever reason one time a Tyranitar was faster than my Jolteon, which made no sense.  So does this new fairy type have any effect on the rules with the dragons?  Anyways, the rules are fair enough.  I have no complaints. 

But i do have one VERY important question.  What are your punishments for quitting in a fight?  Not forfeiting, but disconnecting.  Idk how you do these tournys, but when people disconnected on me when i was doing rating battles that **** would piss me off because you wouldn't get the win and they wouldn't get the loss.  But i doubt you guys have Nintendo keep track of ratings, but still...

Competitive battling is a lot of fun.  It relies on your personal skill, your ability to get into your opponents head, and of course luck.  Luck plays a big part whether it's picking the correct 3 pokemon (depending on how you're playing) and the amount of critical hits or dodges etc you manage to get during a battle.  You've gotta know your Type Chart and you've gotta know what tricks a pokemon might have up its sleeve.  Now we have Mega Evolutions and a new Dragon crippling type... The god-damn fairies.  We have the addition of a couple terrain moves.  If your fairy isn't capable of taking down the dragon all the way, change the terrain and weaken it.  This would be Misty Terrain.  Bye bye status effects and 50% of a dragons power (unless you're flying).  We have a pokemon that can change you into a ghost type and a grass type and burn you to bits.  The amount of strategies now is insane and when competitive battling really starts to kick off, it's going to be chaotic (in a good way).  Well enough rambling from me.  Maybe I'll battle some random ppl for a little bit.
Title: Re: Pokemon X and Pokemon Y - October 2013
Post by: oooog on October 29, 2013, 01:23:20 AM
Well, to be honest most of our tournaments thus far have been in person, so there hasn't really been an issue of the disconnecting.  Playing against people online is a completely different story because to some our rules may seem broken, and to others they may seem lax.  There's no way (to my knowledge) to enforce these rules on other people.  I may encounter someone who spent days building their team only to have it thrashed by my Moltres and call that cheap.  I may have spent weeks building a team and have it torn apart by a team of nothing but Mewtwos.  These things happen.

Incidentally, we haven't had any concrete rules established, but the consensus is that Mega Evolutions of Charizard, Blastoise, Squirtle, Scizor, Pinsir, etc. count as dragons.  Mega Tyranitar, Aggron, Garchomp, etc. are banned.  Also Kangaskhan.  It's ability, are you freaking kidding me?!
Title: Re: Pokemon X and Pokemon Y - October 2013
Post by: daoman89 on October 29, 2013, 02:35:35 PM
Yeah, all of you are in a "fist punch to the face" space away lol.  Mega Aggron, Chompster and Tyranitar actually have base stats of 700, which are equivalent to fused Kyurem.  You probably already know this, but Kangiskhan's ability doesnt do double damage, i think it's like 1.5.  I'd have to read into that more.  But yeah, it's still strong as hell.

I did do 2 rating online battles last night for fun.  I was 1 and 1.  Lost the first one.  It was actually a close match.  The 2nd one i obliterated with my Aegislash.  3 to 0.  Took out Scizor, Tyrantrum and then Mega Lucario. 

I was going to train up a Malamar, but idk how good it actually is since its base stats add up to only 482.  It's major threat being bugs and minor threat being a fairy.  It's about average I guess.  Top 291/300.  It seems like it can be evil with Psych Up, Topsy Turvy with the Contrary ability.   
Title: Re: Pokemon X and Pokemon Y - October 2013
Post by: oooog on October 29, 2013, 08:43:09 PM
Kangaskhans ability doesn't necessarily improve it's attack power, it makes it so that it can attack twice (if I understood correctly.)  Which basically means you can Earthquake twice in one turn.

The base stat list also isn't everything.  Look at Dodrio down there half way down the list.  Dodrio is one of my aces (from the previous generations.)  It is also my goal to build a battle ready Beedrill.
Title: Re: Pokemon X and Pokemon Y - October 2013
Post by: daoman89 on October 30, 2013, 02:33:55 AM
They did improve Pin Missile thankfully.  Hello Mega Heracross with that 125 Base Attack Pin Pissile. (5 hits)
Title: Re: Pokemon X and Pokemon Y - October 2013
Post by: HackersTotalMassLaser on October 30, 2013, 03:27:09 PM
Unless you're planning to run Mega Heracross (because of Skill Link) for sure all the time, i would still go with Megahorn as it's STAB. I keep my heracross with Megahorn and close combat, as before. Seems to work just as fine from b/w
Title: Re: Pokemon X and Pokemon Y - October 2013
Post by: daoman89 on October 30, 2013, 03:51:18 PM
Yeah, it's better for its mega form.  5 times the chance for a critical hit as well.  All depends on if you're guaranteed to use Mega Heracross.  But who says you can't have two of them and one with Mega Horn.  Brings in the whole "will he mega evolve it or not" question.  You don't want to be too predictable. 

Sometimes I'll play it safe and sometimes I'll play risky.  Pull out my non-attacking baton passing Ninjask.  Boost up some auto-speed, swords dance 3 times (if it can, it's hard to get both against guys that can kill it instantly).  Rotate the protect and substitute moves and then pass him along to say.... Tyranitar.  Don't wanna risk getting one hit killed give the Tyranitar a focus sash (since he will get hit after being baton passed unless you manage to pass the substitute too).  You got an overpowered mountain mover who's fast as **** obliterating everything in its path.  Until you get roared or dragon tailed...  Damn counters lol.   
Title: Re: Pokemon X and Pokemon Y - October 2013
Post by: Prpl_Mage on October 30, 2013, 07:59:16 PM
Unless you're planning to run Mega Heracross (because of Skill Link) for sure all the time, i would still go with Megahorn as it's STAB. I keep my heracross with Megahorn and close combat, as before. Seems to work just as fine from b/w

Yeah especially if you boost the power further with some bug-increase hold item or berry.
Title: Re: Pokemon X and Pokemon Y - October 2013
Post by: daoman89 on October 30, 2013, 08:38:09 PM
Yeah especially if you boost the power further with some bug-increase hold item or berry.

That wouldnt work for mega form since held item is not available.  Maybe you can do something in a double battle though.  I can't think of anything at the moment. 
Title: Re: Pokemon X and Pokemon Y - October 2013
Post by: Prpl_Mage on October 30, 2013, 10:43:13 PM
It was more of an addition to what HTML said about Megahorn being a more solid choice, and with a bug plate or something, that megahorn would do even more damage.

In the event that you do not aim for multi hit skills that benefits from skill link. aka, mega forme.
Title: Re: Pokemon X and Pokemon Y - October 2013
Post by: daoman89 on October 30, 2013, 11:42:29 PM
All right, i get you.  You know what we should do?  I found out you can battle with friends in double battle as a team so on occasion any of us could take down some random people.  Watched a couple vids on youtube.  The guy who posted it sucked cause he left his partner alone... 
Title: Re: Pokemon X and Pokemon Y - October 2013
Post by: Prpl_Mage on October 31, 2013, 07:17:12 AM
Is there any reward to it? Otherwise my non-Americaness with time zones and everything might probably be a problem.

One thing that bugged me is that you can't do the battle brothel with people online, only locally.
Title: Re: Pokemon X and Pokemon Y - October 2013
Post by: daoman89 on October 31, 2013, 03:14:53 PM
So 2 people locally play with each other online?  That makes sense.  I didn't look much into how you can play online, just saw the videos haha.
Title: Re: Pokemon X and Pokemon Y - October 2013
Post by: daoman89 on January 12, 2014, 12:51:51 AM
I couldn't think of a better way to ask someone who's here, but does anyone have a Bagon/Shelgon/Salamence with its hidden ability?  I'd like something to train before the darn bank is finally released...