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Off-Topic => All of all! => Topic started by: Fisherson on January 02, 2015, 08:00:38 PM
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Okay I watched the Crisis Core Movie (collection of all the screen shots) and even read up on most of the characters and i have say? I love it....till it gets to Genesis VS Angeal VS Sephiroth. Seriously that whole scene messes up everything I loved about the plot and the characters. I mean I can see why Genesis goes beserk and basically gives Sephiroth his idea to kill the Life Stream with a giant meteor, but why does Angeal also have to go beserK?? >-<;; "I have wings! I'm a monster!!" *Rolls eyes* Moron! They aren't even black or sinister or anything! In fact if not for the fact if one had sprouted on the other shoulder he'd have been the first to really look like his name sake. <_<; But even if he went beserk WHY attack Zack his best friend and sorta pupil?? @-@ Thinking on this it made me wonder what would happen if I changed that scene? Why the game might not have made me so sad! =D So I got to wondering if anybody else had a moment like this in gaming? Also HOW would you change it for the better? Me I can list it for ya:
*Genesis only one who goes beserk.
*More playable characters, in particullar new female characters.
*Ditch that lame slots-type-battle system @-@ Stupid idea if there was one. Just use a nice revamped Limit Break!
That's it. That's all I think Crisis Core would need to be a better RPG.
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JRPGs have that tendency of starting out really promising and then quickly preceding to jump off a cliff.
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I'd love to see Bioshock's plot placed into Mario Kart. Try and make sense of that if you can. Wahahahahahahahahahahaha
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I'd love to see Bioshock's plot placed into Mario Kart. Try and make sense of that if you can. Wahahahahahahahahahahaha
Most of those plasmids would work really well as track items!
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Imagine crashing in a plane whilst all riding adorable little go-karts, then driving through the plane wreckage and into Rapture, watching all the terrifying cutscenes and playing the game as normal, racing around Rapture and collecting audio tracks that had absolutely nothing to do with Mario Kart. It'd be a hilarious disaster with no contextual sense.
I'd just blue shell Fontaine and have the whole thing over and done with tbf.
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Is it bad that I want to play this now? Because that sounds *awesome*
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It'd certainly take all the foreboding and dread right out of the game haha!
Heavy Rain with Tetris' storyline would be nice too...
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Speaking of JRPGs with stories that jump off cliffs...
I'd like to change the ending of Final Fantasy IX. Seriously, the 3rd and 4th discs just took a turn for the stupid and incoherent. I know the final boss literally popping out of the woodworks was a throw back to older RPGs, but I don't think it suited the game at all, so I'd love to see a different final boss that made ANY sense.
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For me it would be Final Fantasy 13, I would change it so that the plot actually makes sense at all. That and give is the battle system of 4,5,6,7,8,9, but I mean that could be said of all Final Fantasies with post-9 syndrome. FF12 was pretty good, but where 13 was pretty bad, 15 is going to be an absolute train wreck. Why cant we have a throwback to the old battle system with more of a focus on story...
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But, the graphics and complex systems!
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Dark Cloud. Fun gameplay, but the story makes me cringe on so many levels.
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Battlefield 3 and 4. I know, Battlefield isn't for the singleplayer, but after the kooky and honestly quite fun campaigns from the Bad Company series, the shift to Call of Duty-esque military action with hokey stories full of inconsistencies and stupid character motives really made them a less fun experience. Seriously, there's a part in 3 where the main character (you) finds a Russian soldier who has claimed to be on your side (he actually has, but you don't know that). He convinces you within the span of twenty seconds that he's here to help save the world. Your squad leader then comes in, sees the Russian, and tells you to kill him. The story insists that you should kill your squad leader instead, because that's how you save the world. If you don't, then your squad leader kills you and the Russian.
What the hell. BF4 isn't much better.
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Okay, FF12 wasn't okay. How many times do I need to point this out? If people were unhappy with FFIXs ending then the only reason why FF12 hasn't had as many complains is that everyone got bored of the game that they didn't finish.
FF12s ending is pretty much this:
"errhm... go to this stupid 100 level tower and find the doctor" >
"omg I'm a ****ing crazy doctor, have a random esper battle and watch the black guy suicide to save everyone" >
"death star airship approaches a city that the empire already controls and they call it bahamuth" >
"watch stupid airship dogfight that reminds a lot of star wars" >
"board ship and fight the only cool character in the game" >
"fight the less cool nemesis" >
"watch him digimorph into megakabuterivayne" >
"survive doing nothing for 15-40 minutes as your characters are doing everything on their own as in the rest of the game" >
"The ghostly ancient is still alive but the game is over, now look as Vaan is a sky pirate, pew pew"
FFXIIIs story was good compared to the sequels. And they are all about not being able to escape fate pretty much. Determinism at its' best.
Crisis core manages to be a pretty good game considering the expectations. But the battle system fades in comparison to Kingdom Hearts birth by sleep. However, the game did a great story since I already knew what would happen to Zack so they threw in a bunch of things that made you go "awww, but he won't be alive to see that". But yes, the inclusion of Angeal and Genesis out of nowhere was a bit odd. But just go ahead and watch a "let's play FF7 Dirge of Cerberus " and you'll be kinda cool with them all of a sudden.
Dark Cloud (assuming the first one) had brilliant gameplay, I don't know how many hours I spent on that game. Such a shame my ps2 is teh broken. But yes the story is kinda odd, on many levels. On all levels. Did you have a Falcor looking dragon? Can't remember, was there any point to the slingshotting catgirl or the genie? Can't remember that either... What's up with the axe kid with a bearpelt on his face? I donno, Did I find the jetpack moonbunny hilarious? Yes I did. That ending was kinda crap, although the final dungeon letting you see past events was kinda cool.
Also, I'm surprised no one has mentioned Xenogears. That game had the worst endings ever. The entire second disc was rushed so you just get explanations of why you are fighting a certain boss at a certain place instead. So you don't even play through all of the plot twists, they are explained to you. Such a shame, the game was nice.
Another one. Xenoblade chronicles (not related to the above). I seem to be one of the only ones who aren't happy with the plottwist at the end. Or neither of the plot twists at the end. It made no sense and felt like the original storywriter had a heartattack and had to be replaced.
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The first Dark Cloud, yes. I've put about 22 hours into the game and it's quite fun. I wouldn't even say the story is odd, it's just plain bad. The Dark Genie awakes and destroys all the villages on the world. Well, that's boring. Why? I dunno, they never explain (so far). Hell, it took 15 hours before I got a glimpse of our main baddie after the intro and it was only thirty seconds in an optional cinematic. As for the rest, you get the main basic of basic stories and settings. It doesn't take away from the gameplay, but goddamn the story is cringe. The worst part was where they took a boat to fly to the moon. Oh god. Or that the hero of one of the towns you visits just so happens to be the father of the main character that he never knew.
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Well I said earlier that I loved FF8's battle system and I truly do, but I do have to mention that the ending is probably the worst of any game I can think of, and not because of just how poorly it ended but because of how amazing the rest of the game was that made it just so terrible. I would have to say of all the games I've seen so far FF8 is the one that I would change the most, right now I've just made up a different one and forced myself to believe the real one never even happened.
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The first Dark Cloud, yes. I've put about 22 hours into the game and it's quite fun. I wouldn't even say the story is odd, it's just plain bad. The Dark Genie awakes and destroys all the villages on the world. Well, that's boring. Why? I dunno, they never explain (so far). Hell, it took 15 hours before I got a glimpse of our main baddie after the intro and it was only thirty seconds in an optional cinematic. As for the rest, you get the main basic of basic stories and settings. It doesn't take away from the gameplay, but goddamn the story is cringe. The worst part was where they took a boat to fly to the moon. Oh god. Or that the hero of one of the towns you visits just so happens to be the father of the main character that he never knew.
Level 5 plots in general are kinda bad.
Not anything against the company though. Dark Cloud 2 is my favorite ps2 game and WKC 1+2 is easily my most clocked ps3 game. Couldn't finish rogue galaxy though.
Another one. Xenoblade chronicles (not related to the above). I seem to be one of the only ones who aren't happy with the plottwist at the end. Or neither of the plot twists at the end. It made no sense and felt like the original storywriter had a heartattack and had to be replaced.
TBH, I went into the game expecting the plot to suck, and it started off 'meh' and gradually got awesome. It had enough twists to excuse a 'wrap up twist' at the end of the game. More effective than Tidus being a dream and ****.
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I'd change godsent's plot to be really short so you release it ; )
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Speaking of FF7, GDQ will do a speedrun of it in a few hours.
http://www.twitch.tv/gamesdonequick (http://www.twitch.tv/gamesdonequick)
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Man, I love the GDQ marathons. Blindfolded OoT run right now, so hype.
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I'd change godsent's plot to be really short so you release it ; )
You're too kind :P
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I personally really liked Xenoblade's ending. It was basically everyone finally breaking free from their fatal end. The entire game they're trying to change the future and eventually learn that they can actually do it. So when you slay Zanza, Shulk and his companions can finally live in a world with no passage of fate (i'm assuming anyways). All they wanted was to live life in peace basically. A story of such tiny insignificant beings making big changes. But yeah, Klaus was a dick and killed us all, that selfish bastard.
Fun fact: Did you know Xenoblade Chronicles is only a test game? The creator didn't expect it to become as well received as it did. You can probably google and read about it.
Now let's see... I'll just get this outta the way. Crisis Core had terrible side quests. Wtf one was walk 10 feet to a treasure chest in a plain field. Square Enix and their laziness....
I'd change the last few chapters except the end of Bravely Default. I was never so pissed about doing the same **** 3 or 4 times in a row again. Another example of their laziness. I was really into the story and then BAM they ruin it for another 10 to 20 hours. Sure they added those job battle combinations but that's not good enough. Another flaw was how much HP the end bosses before the true end boss was. I had to repeat the same **** like 20 turns. And I was doing 9999 at least 4 times with 1 character some turns. But yeah.... there's my partial plot i would change i guess.
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Oh yeah, Bravely Default. Great game with some hints to time travel and then they make the second half of the game a repetition without any added story (more or less, unless you count the old perv). The fact that most conversations stayed the same also annoyed me. Like how you can enter a certain captains house and participate in a murder mystery a couple of times without the characters acting any different. Or the murderer changing. But whatever The ending was kickass. 3x dark knights & 1 spiritmaster ftw.
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But whatever The ending was kickass. 3x dark knights & 1 spiritmaster ftw.
I won't lie, the ending got me hype as hell. I'm not as excited for Bravely Second because of the composer change. I know that's a dumb excuse, but I love Linked Horizon. However, I am extremely hyped for Xenoblade Chronicles X, Legend of Zelda: U, and last but not least.... Monster Hunter 4 Ultimate. Honorable mentions LoZMM, Starfox, Splattoon, Mario Kart 8 DLC, Fire Emblem x Shin Megami Tensei, maybe a Metroid or Fire Emblem Wii U announcement? But yeah... I'm going off topic so I shall shut the hell up.
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I'd change the last few chapters except the end of Bravely Default. I was never so pissed about doing the same **** 3 or 4 times in a row again. Another example of their laziness. I was really into the story and then BAM they ruin it for another 10 to 20 hours. Sure they added those job battle combinations but that's not good enough. Another flaw was how much HP the end bosses before the true end boss was. I had to repeat the same **** like 20 turns. And I was doing 9999 at least 4 times with 1 character some turns. But yeah.... there's my partial plot i would change i guess.
I know two people that quit playing the game because of this. Really a bad move on the side of game dev.
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I know two people that quit playing the game because of this. Really a bad move on the side of game dev.
I almost did too. The people at square enix do some dumb crap which I never understand. I really really enjoyed the game up until the first world ended. Then it slowly got duller and BAM it just pissed me off. Like Fred said before though, the ending was amazing.
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Okay after completing Zoids Legacy just yesterday I have to nominate it. It was great at first, one of the better mech strategy games I've seen, buuuut it's finall boss<Death Meteor, is just sad. - -; Not that he's easy but he does the same three moves over and over and you have to fight him like six times and he never changes appearance or tactics. - -; Has to rank as one of the worst boss fights ever tied with when I played FFT and actually literally was having three of four turns when the Finall Boss was having two at most. XD Also I was dealing massive damage and she...couldn't even kill my weaker units!! O_o Sheesh. Final bosses are supposed to be annoying and challenging and shake up your "prefect party/weapon/strategy
And since I mentioned bosses that's one of things I'd change about KOTOR 1. I freakin' loved that game but the final battle with Malak is just stupid. I work hard to train these cnine characters I have, even the normal non-jedi ones, and what happens? I find out I have to fight Malak solo. No help at all like ever. - -; To me that almost killed all the good stuff that happened before it. I mean seriously!! Why give you the option to have so many good party members if you're the only one who can face the final boss?? XP I'd so throw that out and make that be the FINAL challenge. Have my party wear Malak's HP Bar down then have him paralyze them, as he's so fond of doing since like you first see him, so it's just you and him. That'd be okay and make me little irritated but I could understand since allot of three dee platformers.
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Speaking of Xenoblade. New nintendo direct made a "run around the world"-trailer for the new one as well.
https://www.nintendo.co.uk/Misc-/Nintendo-Direct/Latest-Nintendo-Direct/Nintendo-Direct-698557.html (https://www.nintendo.co.uk/Misc-/Nintendo-Direct/Latest-Nintendo-Direct/Nintendo-Direct-698557.html)
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Have Haytham raise Connor in Assassin's Creed III, yet still have the main game events (Connor's mother is killed because of Haytham, and he must kill his own father). If the two actually had a relationship and Haytham's ideology had been imparted to Connor, it would have made it a much more difficult feat for Connor to seek revenge against his own father.
Change Connor so that he behaves with the above context in mind, and make him less reactive by having him decide what to do on his quest (then seek help from people who give him the missions), rather than have them just happen to him. In addition, give him a sense of humour, a soft spot for ladies, or literally anything that makes him more than the wooden brooding 14-year-old's-ff7-fanfic-jizz that he is.
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Speaking of Xenoblade. New nintendo direct made a "run around the world"-trailer for the new one as well.
https://www.nintendo.co.uk/Misc-/Nintendo-Direct/Latest-Nintendo-Direct/Nintendo-Direct-698557.html (https://www.nintendo.co.uk/Misc-/Nintendo-Direct/Latest-Nintendo-Direct/Nintendo-Direct-698557.html)
The world looks fantastic and interesting. It makes you wanna explore it. Sorry FFXV, but your world looks boring. U can look pretty all you want. I'm sure it will be better than the XIII trilogy. They've been working on it for how many years? 8? 10!?
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Well I said earlier that I loved FF8's battle system and I truly do, but I do have to mention that the ending is probably the worst of any game I can think of, and not because of just how poorly it ended but because of how amazing the rest of the game was that made it just so terrible. I would have to say of all the games I've seen so far FF8 is the one that I would change the most, right now I've just made up a different one and forced myself to believe the real one never even happened.
Actually, I really liked the ending of FFVIII. Reminds me of an over symbolic art-school film.
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Honestly, I wasn't a big fan of Mario 2's plot. Too much birdo, not enough rocket ships.
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But wasn't it mario 2 that wasn't supposed to be a mario but was licensed in America as a mario?
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^This. It wasn't a Mario game at all, but it got reskinned for the US release because Nintendo thought that the actual SMB2 was too difficult. It was basically a collection of new levels for the first game with a higher difficulty, so we didn't miss much. The actual SMB2 did eventually see a US release with Super Mario All-Stars on the SNES, which had graphical updates of all the NES Mario games, plus the Japanese SMB2 titled "Super Mario Bros. - The Lost Levels".
I wish my copy hadn't been stolen...
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Hello all. If you don't know me, I used to post a lot over a hear ago. That's why my post count is moderately high. I logged in just to respond this thread.
Well I said earlier that I loved FF8's battle system and I truly do, but I do have to mention that the ending is probably the worst of any game I can think of, and not because of just how poorly it ended but because of how amazing the rest of the game was that made it just so terrible. I would have to say of all the games I've seen so far FF8 is the one that I would change the most, right now I've just made up a different one and forced myself to believe the real one never even happened.
I recently heard of the "Squall is Dead" theory, and started replaying VIII because of it. While the game's nowhere near as bad as I used to believe it was, I would change it to completely conform to this theory. The idea of secretly killing the main character with the world as his subconscious is just cool.
I agree with Apex. I thought the ending was cool. The whole game reminds me of David Lynch now that I've seen a few of his movies.
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I've read the "Squall is Dead" theory, it's pretty fun.
*SPOILERS for the ending of FFVIII.*
Honestly I always thought that the ending was indicative of Squall dying anyways. He collapses from exhaustion, and his life flashes before his eyes. His memories start to fade, and for a split second after a memory of Rinoa's space helmet shattering, you can see Squall with a big hole where is face is. Creepy imagery. The rest of the ending, it never shows anyone other than Rinoa with Squall.
On the subject of FFVIII theories, I really like the one claiming that Rinoa is Ultimecia.
The story of FFVIII has a lot of weak points, but honestly the fact that the ending is so open to interpretation is one the games greatest narrative strengths.
Also, the battle system = tons of fun. (Anyone who whines about the drawing system is either an idiot, or never played past the first hour.)
Triple Triad = Awesome.
Final dungeon (4th disk.) = my favorite final area in a Final Fantasy game, and probably in any game.
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Well don't get me wrong the game is amazing, I mean absolutely amazing. I just like to pretend that it ended in a much better, much less"everything I just spent the last 20-30 hours didn't actually happen" kind of way.
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Having no MP felt weird for a FF game. I think a lot of people might not have liked the draw system because it was kinda like artificial stat points, and you didn't want to use the spells you drew because you'd reduce your stats. Magic didn't seem that effective either until Aura/Meltdown comes around. Plus if you don't remember to draw from every boss you miss GFs, which in turn means a reduction in stats for a casual playthrough.
I restarted twice (I think) because I missed Siren and another GF whose name goes unremembered. :/
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I kinda liked the system with the Guardian forces and whatnot. But I also forgot to draw from all bosses to earn some GFs so resets kinda made me stop playing after a while. That and I tried to win something from Elena from that card game in space or something. Been some time.
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I kinda liked the system with the Guardian forces and whatnot. But I also forgot to draw from all bosses to earn some GFs so resets kinda made me stop playing after a while. That and I tried to win something from Elena from that card game in space or something. Been some time.
This was a major draw back. But you had to like the limit breaks having some many varieties of styles. Except maybe Irvine's....it could have been done a little better I think. _sweat_ But Triple Triad made up for anythign anyone can say about FF8. I had allot of fun with that but I didn't like how the rules could change permanently without your authorization. I mean it's challenging sure but it's also irritating if you don't get some of the more complex rules and you just wanted to play a quick hand of cards between boss fights.
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On the subject of FFVIII theories, I really like the one claiming that Rinoa is Ultimecia.
The story of FFVIII has a lot of weak points, but honestly the fact that the ending is so open to interpretation is one the games greatest narrative strengths.
I really like the Rinoa=Ultimecia theory too. I personally would make it a dual personality metaphor, like Mary and Maria from Silent Hill 2. Rinoa would represent Squall going after a girl before dying. Ultimecia would represent the reality that he didn't.
Not that I don't like this game. Even if the game is a little out of my taste, it is still a good one. I also think the Junction system is impressive now that I know how to play. I just think the story could use more thematic focus. VII had that environmentalism thing going on. IX and X focused a little more on death. Really, what was this game about? Love? Nations? Are there any real reasons why things like the Lunar Cry and Lunatic Pandora were in the game, aside from looking cool? The main villains were female, so why didn't they talk about sexism or anything? I feel like they missed out on good topics.
I do like all the military references. They did a good job displaying military life.
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I care not what other people around these interwebs think! Final Fantasy VIII is my ****! Ahh, the good ol' squaresoft/enix/whateverifithaschanged.
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What I wouldn't do to change Grandia 3's, Star Oceans 3's, and Star Ocean 4's plots.
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God yes. Star ocean 3 especially... But star ocean 4 kept up the decent plot for so long before it devolved into that completely rubbish dungeon and hundreds of lines of dialogue about the power of friendship...
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Remove Lymle and you got yourself a good game.
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Remove Lymle and you got yourself a good game.
Remove all characters except Edge, Reimi and Arumat and you got a good game.
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Star Ocean 3 and 4's story may not be their strong point, but they are damn good games besides that. Particularly Star Ocean 3. One of my favorite games ever.