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Title: Charas Chain Game 4 Official Thread (Complete)
Post by: Fisherson on February 28, 2015, 03:19:09 AM
Yeah that's no typo. I Fisherson am starting the next Chain Game. Red said I could so I'm taking my oppertunity to tell you all a little about it and get people signed on for chapters and what not. So here's the details

Games about sci-fi see? Any kind of sci-fi will do, doesn't matter. It's got a heroine and a opener that's writen by me and actually not too far from completion. Just need to finish out some items, do two battle sets and two maps. Easy as cake. Now can't tell you much about the story other than it'll be a mix of humor and drama knowing me. I'm also aware we don't have that many sci-fi resources so I'm importing many MAPS CHARASETS AND CHIPS you probably never seen before. I even included my Starfeild, which I just recently found, for the opening. Now on to how many chapters. Shooting for ten but nine's okay too.

- Chapters Availible -
  1: Fish
   2: Prpl_Mage
   3: MT 11
   4: Dren
  5: DragonBlaze
  6: Momeka
  7: A F L  <--- Current
  8: ?
  9: ?
 10: Fish?
Title: Re: Charas Chain Game 4 Official Thread
Post by: Prpl_Mage on February 28, 2015, 11:17:35 PM
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Borderlands goes to ELEVEN! You may have seen some games raise their level cap by 5, or maybe even 10, but with The Crimson Lance Assassination Squads wreaking havoc and Crawmerax the Invincible being all invulnerable and stuff we knew you'd need more than just 10. And that's why Borderlands goes to ELEVEN!

You made me think of this.

And yes, sign me up for a chapter.
Title: Re: Charas Chain Game 4 Official Thread
Post by: Dr. Ace on March 01, 2015, 10:58:00 AM
Last time there weren't even enough people for 10, and now you expect 11? Well, I guess I'll play the game in August 2016, but I'll pass on development.
Title: Re: Charas Chain Game 4 Official Thread
Post by: Fisherson on March 01, 2015, 08:21:35 PM
Last time there weren't even enough people for 10, and now you expect 11? Well, I guess I'll play the game in August 2016, but I'll pass on development.

Hey we did 12 chapters on the last one and I'll admit it took a while but it turned out pretty good. Even got to do BONUS chapters which I was for sure I wasn't even going to be able to finish. Technically if you count those we did like 16-17 chapters on the last one.

You made me think of this.

And yes, sign me up for a chapter.

Alright! Chapter 2 sound good or you want something later?
Title: Re: Charas Chain Game 4 Official Thread
Post by: Prpl_Mage on March 01, 2015, 09:28:22 PM
No the last one was 9 chapters actually.
Title: Re: Charas Chain Game 4 Official Thread
Post by: Fisherson on March 01, 2015, 10:34:00 PM
No the last one was 9 chapters actually.

Eh?? I thought we did twelve. o.O *Checks* Oh welll, Sorry, Drace I got it wrong. Though with all the bonus chapters one could argue it's technically 12 or more, but eh. Okay fine then all those in favor of 9-10?
Title: Re: Charas Chain Game 4 Official Thread
Post by: drenrin2120 on March 01, 2015, 11:49:49 PM
I say you aim high. Aim for 3 chapters. ;)
Title: Re: Charas Chain Game 4 Official Thread
Post by: Fisherson on March 02, 2015, 03:58:19 AM
I say you aim high. Aim for 3 chapters. ;)

XD Oh ha ha. Thanks for the "support" Dren. =P Now I don't regret cameoing you as a street guitarist. <.< Also anyone who wants to help I need a little favor. Apparenlty all the star gate chips wondered off when I wasn't looking. Somebody want to find/make me a inter dimensional ring? Anything will work so long as it's techy and round. Kinda need it to complete the second part of the intro.
Title: Re: Charas Chain Game 4 Official Thread
Post by: Momeka on March 02, 2015, 01:14:49 PM
I'll take chapter 3.

And send me specifications of what you need and I'll see what I can do.
Title: Re: Charas Chain Game 4 Official Thread
Post by: DragonBlaze on March 02, 2015, 09:21:09 PM
Chapter 4 please :)
Title: Re: Charas Chain Game 4 Official Thread
Post by: Momeka on March 04, 2015, 06:40:03 PM
Fish, you still alive?
Title: Re: Charas Chain Game 4 Official Thread
Post by: Fisherson on March 05, 2015, 06:12:59 AM
I am alive but "crippled". My PC is experiencing a odd error causing multiple blue screens of destruction. :( I backed up the game but can't do a thing till I get her in the shop. Will post when she's up and running again.
Title: Re: Charas Chain Game 4 Official Thread
Post by: Fisherson on March 06, 2015, 06:41:31 AM
Well my brother fixed my PC it seems! Soon as I PM Red I'll get back to work. Want to try to re-map my first real map of the game. I really am a terrible mapper. :( I mean it! Dragonia 1.0 was great evidence of that. >.>
Title: Re: Charas Chain Game 4 Official Thread
Post by: Momeka on March 06, 2015, 06:50:49 AM
You're too harsh on yourself. Just do your best.
Title: Re: Charas Chain Game 4 Official Thread
Post by: Fisherson on March 06, 2015, 08:54:50 AM
You're too harsh on yourself. Just do your best.

Very well  I'll just suck it up and content myself that my maps won't be as cool as yours and DB's were. Alrighty as for specifications? Just interdimensional ring or alien-looking hoop. Doesn't have to be fancy just techy and odd. Can you manage that?
Title: Re: Charas Chain Game 4 Official Thread
Post by: Momeka on March 06, 2015, 09:01:48 AM
Very well  I'll just suck it up and content myself that my maps won't be as cool as yours and DB's were. Alrighty as for specifications? Just interdimensional ring or alien-looking hoop. Doesn't have to be fancy just techy and odd. Can you manage that?

Everyone got their strength and weaknesses. I pm'd you a thing a couple of days ago, did you get it? It wasn't round though, couldn't get that to look good.
Title: Re: Charas Chain Game 4 Official Thread
Post by: Moosetroop11 on March 06, 2015, 06:48:41 PM
Hell, I'll do a chapter again. I promise that If it looks like I'll be too busy to complete it I'll tell you with a bit of notice and pull out.
Title: Re: Charas Chain Game 4 Official Thread
Post by: Fisherson on March 08, 2015, 01:29:30 AM
Hell, I'll do a chapter again. I promise that If it looks like I'll be too busy to complete it I'll tell you with a bit of notice and pull out.

XD Happy to have ya aboard, MT and thanks. That'd be helpful. ^^; I rather dislike having to HUNT YOU DOWN LIKE THE MOOSE YOU ARE if I don't have to. I mean I'd have to have you stuffed then and mounted and then sold one day years from now to pay off the loans on my star ships.

Everyone got their strength and weaknesses. I pm'd you a thing a couple of days ago, did you get it? It wasn't round though, couldn't get that to look good.

I got it! Just DLed this morning and will be familiarizing myself with it in a minute. It'll work out great I think! =D At least it actually matches the character style unlike the NPCs and tilset I usd. XD

Little update. Got the prologue done just gotta do the actual cut scenes for three levels and add some shops and stuff and I can give 'er a full test play and make sure there's no bugs before I send the next one in the chain the link. I'm not going to be as skill heavy as I can be. Only giving the heroine a basic status, a power up and special skill. I'm also probably not going to make more than two types of weapon upgrade for her and probably no side quests unless I get done early. Will be adding a few easter eggs and hidden things though, but I do that with nearly eveyrthing and it takes very little time out of the project. Keep on hanging! You're turn will come sooner than you think, jive buzzards.
Title: Re: Charas Chain Game 4 Official Thread
Post by: Zoltar on March 08, 2015, 05:48:54 PM
Want to say I can't do any chapters. I'm kind of busy right now with planning a few projects of my own. I can volunteer resources though?
Title: Re: Charas Chain Game 4 Official Thread
Post by: Fisherson on March 11, 2015, 03:27:48 AM
Want to say I can't do any chapters. I'm kind of busy right now with planning a few projects of my own. I can volunteer resources though?
Very well, Zolty. ^_^ Anything to help.

Update time! Re-worded the intro to near perfection cause it struck me it was a little dull and needed some jazzing up, just one thing to re-word in it and it's 100% done. I didn't get the first level pre-battle cut scene finished. < <; Gonna try before bed if I get a chance. Mostly what i got done today was creating loads of NPCs and mapping out some shops and expanding some areas I had previously maps. Don't worry though! I cut my idea down a bit without losing quality and could cut it more if I skipped out introducing the villain of the chapter, but that's sorta chain game tradition, right? At least to hint there is a villain.

Also got some skills done, but for some reason my stupid RPG maker doesn't seem to want to make a simple protect skill. Gonna have to hit it with hammer me thinks since I've done this before, heck when Misadventures was on hiatius I upgraded the Force Barrier to add Protect Status! I know it can be done. Either way it's getting there. Should be done in a week now that my brother fixed the error on my PC and I don't have to worry about it crashing and coorupting the file data like it did to the first attempt I did. I'm still backing it up continuously though.
Title: Re: Charas Chain Game 4 Official Thread
Post by: Prpl_Mage on March 22, 2015, 07:22:21 AM
So, how is it going?
Title: Re: Charas Chain Game 4 Official Thread
Post by: Fisherson on March 22, 2015, 05:01:07 PM
Oh whoops! Sorry guys. Should have updated this. Intro cut scene is finished, working on the chapter's opening cut scene itself and the next map. I had to dig a little bit to find the one I needed and I briefly had to modify a town map cause it had no counters! That made it impossible to make proper shops. So I had a little touch and go tile set editing...Then I DLed HOME and let it briefly consume my life before my family reclaimed it @.@ Buuuut I'll put it down and get back into high gear now!
Title: Re: Charas Chain Game 4 Official Thread
Post by: drenrin2120 on March 25, 2015, 05:24:24 PM
That's been me with Cities: Skylines. All my free time has been sucked into building this city only to find out I don't know a damn thing about traffic.
Title: Re: Charas Chain Game 4 Official Thread
Post by: Fisherson on March 27, 2015, 04:36:43 AM
That's been me with Cities: Skylines. All my free time has been sucked into building this city only to find out I don't know a damn thing about traffic.

XD Say what? How is that relevant to this thread? o.O

Okay I'll just get the thread back on track and say I added some more content but ugh I'm terrible at time management. I'm finding it hard to Skype and work on the game but if I don't get on Skype I get depressed or in a foul mood and can't write. Stupid dialogue scenes. Gonna give 'er another go and if in two days I can't finish? I'm going to cut most of the content I wanted to. =/ It'll feel bad but WoG taught me you sometimes must cut things to get the right amount of content per volume.

Update:
Made a massive amount of progress. Just a map and a puzzle left! ^o^ Buuuuut I can't get my status set to work. o.O I though it may be this copy of RPG maker but I just tested Misadventures and it's shield system works good and I'm sure the vbad statuses would work too....Any ideas on how to solve this without transferign files or should I just leave it be?  Bad statuses and shield status aren't too important after all right?
Title: Re: Charas Chain Game 4 Official Thread
Post by: Fisherson on March 30, 2015, 04:47:00 AM
Hate to double post but what the heck this way you all see it: 50%+ Done!! ^-^ Two more cut scenes and minor quest and Razor's your uncle! Ha ha ha ha! Also got some status effects  to work but still not Protect/Shield. < <; Annoying. I also want to state that this chapter will not set up the main enemy. <.< So it's up to you guys to decide if we have something like the Shadows and Baal from the last one.
Title: Re: Charas Chain Game 4 Official Thread
Post by: Momeka on April 02, 2015, 07:00:12 AM
Fish, it's been over a month now. I'm expecting a two hour long adventure that's polished and completely bug free.
Title: Re: Charas Chain Game 4 Official Thread
Post by: Dr. Ace on April 02, 2015, 09:12:13 PM
Fish, work harder damn it. Give the game to the next person before this becomes another year-long project.
Title: Re: Charas Chain Game 4 Official Thread
Post by: Fisherson on April 03, 2015, 02:52:41 AM
Fish, it's been over a month now. I'm expecting a two hour long adventure that's polished and completely bug free.
Fish, work harder damn it. Give the game to the next person before this becomes another year-long project.

I  nearly skipped lunch just to finish the last major cut scene. I even turned on my PC just as a storm had passed and shurked chores to work on it today. I have been working hard on this. If not for the honor of being the second person  who is not Red to start the Chain Game, then because I wanted us to enjoy it. Now can I get some positive support?  Please? T.T I only took two days off to RP on Skype and  let my friends and family know I was alive
Title: Re: Charas Chain Game 4 Official Thread
Post by: Zoltar on April 03, 2015, 04:50:23 AM
I  nearly skipped lunch just to finish the last major cut scene. I even turned on my PC just as a storm had passed and shurked chores to work on it today. I have been working hard on this. If not for the honor of being the second person  who is not Red to start the Chain Game, then because I wanted us to enjoy it. Now can I get some positive support?  Please? T.T I only took two days off to RP on Skype and  let my friends and family know I was alive

I'm rooting for you, Fishman! We're allies and friends.  :Plight: :happy: :Plight: GO FOR IT!!
Title: Re: Charas Chain Game 4 Official Thread
Post by: Dr. Ace on April 03, 2015, 09:25:30 AM
Now can I get some positive support?

You'll get positive support when it's done! Work harder or I'll get the whip out of the closet.
Title: Re: Charas Chain Game 4 Official Thread
Post by: Prpl_Mage on April 03, 2015, 09:42:52 AM
It's great that you are putting so much work into this but I think you are overdoing it. Try to skip the unnecessary stuff and do what's important. You can fix all those details at a later time!
Title: Re: Charas Chain Game 4 Official Thread
Post by: drenrin2120 on April 03, 2015, 05:26:38 PM
There's a price for failure Fish. Don't make us excommunicate you!

Title: Re: Charas Chain Game 4 Official Thread
Post by: Moosetroop11 on April 03, 2015, 06:23:16 PM
There's a price for failure Fish. Don't make us excommunicate you!


(http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b377/Jimeth/fish_zpsfuxugjoq.jpg)
Title: Re: Charas Chain Game 4 Official Thread
Post by: DragonBlaze on April 03, 2015, 06:42:39 PM
(http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b377/Jimeth/fish_zpsfuxugjoq.jpg)

Mmmm Fish looks mighty tasty right about now.

And here I was worried that I would check the forum and see that I missed my turn.
Title: Re: Charas Chain Game 4 Official Thread
Post by: Fisherson on April 04, 2015, 04:49:12 AM
It's great that you are putting so much work into this but I think you are overdoing it. Try to skip the unnecessary stuff and do what's important. You can fix all those details at a later time!

Actually I'm cutting it down to bare basics: A prologue that's all talk that explains the story a opening chapter with guest characters and SUPER easy puzzles then after that one true Quest that requires a little thinking and one area to buy weapons, armor and such. That's it. There's a a total of about three major cut scenes. It's super small.

(http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b377/Jimeth/fish_zpsfuxugjoq.jpg)

Oh har har! XD I said positive encouragement not threats of buttering, filleting and the such. <.<

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Quote from: Fisherson on Yesterday at 09:52:41 PM

    Now can I get some positive support?


You'll get positive support when it's done! Work harder or I'll get the whip out of the closet.

You do and I'll get out my rubber cat suit.
Title: Re: Charas Chain Game 4 Official Thread
Post by: Momeka on April 08, 2015, 06:54:19 PM
I'm going to resign my spot. I just got too much to do at the moment and rather spend the little free time I have on my own projects. Anyway if my schedule clears up and there is still a free spot in the future I might jump in.
Title: Re: Charas Chain Game 4 Official Thread
Post by: Moosetroop11 on April 09, 2015, 12:07:26 AM
You never know, you might have more free time by the time your turn comes round : p
Title: Re: Charas Chain Game 4 Official Thread
Post by: Fisherson on April 09, 2015, 04:35:44 AM
I'm going to resign my spot. I just got too much to do at the moment and rather spend the little free time I have on my own projects. Anyway if my schedule clears up and there is still a free spot in the future I might jump in.

Tis fine, Red. You've done enough for me anyway what with making the hero, the techno chipset and some additional poses to get the battler off the ground. And like you said you can always jump back in when I get this back to moving. - -; Stupid slow progress. I'm literally inches away but running out of steam. Ofcourse even if I finish it, it'll be a bit before I can get to the library.

You never know, you might have more free time by the time your turn comes round : p

Oh hurr hurr....I'm working frack it! Working hard too.
Title: Re: Charas Chain Game 4 Official Thread
Post by: Zoltar on April 11, 2015, 05:21:31 AM
Tis fine, Red. You've done enough for me anyway what with making the hero, the techno chipset and some additional poses to get the battler off the ground. And like you said you can always jump back in when I get this back to moving. - -; Stupid slow progress. I'm literally inches away but running out of steam. Ofcourse even if I finish it, it'll be a bit before I can get to the library.

Oh hurr hurr....I'm working frack it! Working hard too.

Working hard or hardly working?   8) No I have faith in you Jedi! ...Which has nothing to do with you giving me free resources for my game.  :eyes:

Seriously if you are burned out maybe hand it over as is and somebody can finish?
Title: Re: Charas Chain Game 4 Official Thread
Post by: Fisherson on April 13, 2015, 09:34:34 PM
It is done.  Just gotta update some cut scenes and then it's off to the box and on to the next link.  Thank you for all your support guys.? ^_^
Title: Re: Charas Chain Game 4 Official Thread
Post by: Prpl_Mage on April 13, 2015, 09:43:53 PM
Applauds!
Title: Re: Charas Chain Game 4 Official Thread
Post by: Moosetroop11 on April 13, 2015, 11:43:28 PM
Phew! Nice, look forward to it.
Title: Re: Charas Chain Game 4 Official Thread
Post by: Dr. Ace on April 16, 2015, 01:35:26 PM
It is done. 
Good.

Just gotta update some cut scenes and then it's off to the box and on to the next link.

But that implies it is not done. Not good.
Title: Re: Charas Chain Game 4 Official Thread
Post by: Fisherson on April 17, 2015, 05:30:13 PM
It's my turn to hackle you guys cause I just gave purps the linkity-do and now I'm off to post the link to the new Misadventures Demo as well~~~ Ahh it's a sweet day to be a Fish! ^o^
Title: Re: Charas Chain Game 4 Official Thread
Post by: Prpl_Mage on April 18, 2015, 04:43:08 PM
Got the game and played through it. Will start on my own chapter pretty soon.
Title: Re: Charas Chain Game 4 Official Thread
Post by: Zoltar on April 20, 2015, 05:46:03 AM
 :o 'Bout time that lazy Fishman gave it up. Lol No I joke. Hope you get it done even faster, Mage of the Purple Ajah.
Title: Re: Charas Chain Game 4 Official Thread
Post by: Prpl_Mage on April 24, 2015, 05:10:11 AM
So life is kinda busy but the progress is going well, might not be done tomorrow but in a few days.
Title: Re: Charas Chain Game 4 Official Thread
Post by: Moosetroop11 on April 24, 2015, 06:38:03 PM
Coolies, don't rush : )

I'm looking forward to my part. It's dragonblaze next right?
Title: Re: Charas Chain Game 4 Official Thread
Post by: Prpl_Mage on April 29, 2015, 05:11:49 AM
Alright, my chapter is coming to a close now. Everything seems to be working as intended. I just have to finish some of the dialogues/story and give it an entire test run.

You ready for your part DB?
Title: Re: Charas Chain Game 4 Official Thread
Post by: Zoltar on April 30, 2015, 07:43:50 AM
Good luck, Purple Dude!  Hope there's no bugs or glitches. I'd be tempted to sign up for a chapter but my expertise is contemporary /urban fantasy... Not Sci-fi _sweat_ Besides Greg is putting his computer in the shop for a while and I still don't have the cash to get a lap top. Can't make a scenario from my puny little phone.
Title: Re: Charas Chain Game 4 Official Thread
Post by: Prpl_Mage on May 03, 2015, 07:00:03 PM
Okay my chapter is done and everything seems to be working. I'll upload it and send it to DB and Fishface.
Title: Re: Charas Chain Game 4 Official Thread
Post by: Moosetroop11 on May 04, 2015, 11:49:13 PM
Sweeeeet
Title: Re: Charas Chain Game 4 Official Thread
Post by: Prpl_Mage on May 05, 2015, 03:32:02 PM
Noteworthy that I still haven't heard a reply from DB yet.
Title: Re: Charas Chain Game 4 Official Thread
Post by: Moosetroop11 on May 05, 2015, 11:34:21 PM
Are you telling me that we have an untamed dragon flying about god knows where?
Title: Re: Charas Chain Game 4 Official Thread
Post by: drenrin2120 on May 06, 2015, 05:02:42 AM
Are you telling me that we have an untamed dragon flying about god knows where?

Who let him loose? Do you know how long it took to contain him??? Whoever did it, you are a bastard.
Title: Re: Charas Chain Game 4 Official Thread
Post by: Prpl_Mage on May 10, 2015, 01:01:45 PM
The dragon is still missing. For the sake of progress I suggest that we pass the project along. I'm guessing Moose is the next one up then.
Title: Re: Charas Chain Game 4 Official Thread
Post by: Moosetroop11 on May 10, 2015, 06:32:35 PM
Coolies, I'll get playing it today.
Title: Re: Charas Chain Game 4 Official Thread
Post by: Moosetroop11 on May 10, 2015, 11:24:52 PM
The spelling mistakes are killing me, fish! :p

I'm kinda stuck, actually. I'm at the moon base and I have no idea what to do. I feel like I've talked to everyone.
Title: Re: Charas Chain Game 4 Official Thread
Post by: Fisherson on May 14, 2015, 06:35:39 PM
The spelling mistakes are killing me, fish! :p

I'm kinda stuck, actually. I'm at the moon base and I have no idea what to do. I feel like I've talked to everyone.

I do apologize. Without a spellcheck I'm rather useless. ^^; The result of one the one chroculium that I refused to take in home school: Spelling. I found it to be redundant. Hahahahahahah ooooh gosh I want to board the TARDIS and go back to slap my youngerself. MORON! XO Sigh. But I am glad to hear you guys are still continuing the game! Keep it up my comrades!....Or it's the Sith Scorcher for you. >=D
Title: Re: Charas Chain Game 4 Official Thread
Post by: Prpl_Mage on May 15, 2015, 11:47:56 AM
Just an update that Moose fixed the issue and managed to play through the game and should start working on his chapter soon.
Title: Re: Charas Chain Game 4 Official Thread
Post by: Moosetroop11 on May 16, 2015, 10:39:02 AM
I began yesterday. I'm loving this game so I really hope I can put some work in and pull off something good.
Title: Re: Charas Chain Game 4 Official Thread
Post by: A Forgotten Legend on May 17, 2015, 04:31:01 PM
chroculium

*curriculum

(Sorry... couldn't help myself)
Title: Re: Charas Chain Game 4 Official Thread
Post by: drenrin2120 on May 18, 2015, 08:26:51 PM
I'm looking for an excuse to get back into spriting and music. I'll take the chapter after MT11. Though I'll probably let y'all down again.

Should be exciting!
Title: Re: Charas Chain Game 4 Official Thread
Post by: Prpl_Mage on May 18, 2015, 10:09:40 PM
Go ahead Dren, still haven't heard anything from DB.
Title: Re: Charas Chain Game 4 Official Thread
Post by: drenrin2120 on May 18, 2015, 11:00:53 PM
Wasn't MT gonna take his place?
Title: Re: Charas Chain Game 4 Official Thread
Post by: Moosetroop11 on May 19, 2015, 05:17:31 PM
I have, I think he means after me.

On that note I have made good progress.
Title: Re: Charas Chain Game 4 Official Thread
Post by: Prpl_Mage on May 19, 2015, 06:19:15 PM
I have, I think he means after me.

Yeah, You said you wanted it after MT, I just stated that it's probably no problem since there's really noone waiting to get his/her chapter right now. DB is MIA and momeka is busy with something cool.
Title: Re: Charas Chain Game 4 Official Thread
Post by: drenrin2120 on May 20, 2015, 01:48:41 AM
Yeah, You said you wanted it after MT, I just stated that it's probably no problem since there's really noone waiting to get his/her chapter right now. DB is MIA and momeka is busy with something cool.

Yeah, I will. Any room for extra characters? How are you dealing with more than 4 heroes? Or are we not gonna do that?

Someone mind sending me a copy so I can play through what's been done so far?
Title: Re: Charas Chain Game 4 Official Thread
Post by: Fisherson on May 20, 2015, 06:09:31 AM
*curriculum

(Sorry... couldn't help myself)

Tis fine. *Laser whips you* I couldn't help that. =P

Yeah, I will. Any room for extra characters? How are you dealing with more than 4 heroes? Or are we not gonna do that?

Someone mind sending me a copy so I can play through what's been done so far?

Purps had a party change system coded or partially coded from what I've seen of the backup. There were five slots but I'm sure Moose used some. Either way this will be a nice large party possibly a bit bigger than the last with more diverse characters too! ^_^ I've only played the second chapter but I loved it. I'm so glad the effort is still going strong. ^-^ I'll go update the roster and try and find DB myself so I don't seem like a total lazy bones. ^_-

Edit: This look right for chapters? I crunched the numbers...but numbers aren't my strong suit.
 1: Fish
   2: Prpl_Mage
   3: MT 11
   4: Dren
 5: DragonBlaze
 6:  ?
  7: ?
  8: ?
  9: ?
10: ?
Title: Re: Charas Chain Game 4 Official Thread
Post by: Momeka on May 20, 2015, 10:57:38 AM
I can take the chapter after Dren (if DB doesn't show up). Finished moving, got internet at home again and it could be nice with a small side project.
Title: Re: Charas Chain Game 4 Official Thread
Post by: A Forgotten Legend on May 20, 2015, 02:38:21 PM
I could do a later chapter, but I don't want to commit to it just yet since I don't know how busy I'll be working this summer.  I'll just keep checking on the progress here.
Title: Re: Charas Chain Game 4 Official Thread
Post by: Prpl_Mage on May 20, 2015, 03:42:27 PM
Glad to see more people excited for this.

I'll send the game to both of you so you can see what's been done so far.

And yes, there is a party swap system in the game at the moment. It's made to suit 9 characters besides the protagonist but can easily be expanded.
Title: Re: Charas Chain Game 4 Official Thread
Post by: Fisherson on May 21, 2015, 02:43:31 AM
I can take the chapter after Dren (if DB doesn't show up). Finished moving, got internet at home again and it could be nice with a small side project.

So it shall be done!
I could do a later chapter, but I don't want to commit to it just yet since I don't know how busy I'll be working this summer.  I'll just keep checking on the progress here.

Either commit or I'll find a new rival!....Even though we've not been true rivals in a while. Rather need a girl in the middle to feud about if one is to be a romantic rival. I mean unless we do what Blue and Red/Squal and Seifer did. Just basically try to out do one another without really explaining it. Either way I will put you down for a chapter and if you bail? I shall ...remove your name. <.< From HISTORY!...and also the board. =P

Glad to see more people excited for this.

I'll send the game to both of you so you can see what's been done so far.

And yes, there is a party swap system in the game at the moment. It's made to suit 9 characters besides the protagonist but can easily be expanded.

Aha! I thought that's what it was. Rather good of you to pre-program it in considering we'll need it down the road. We should have thought of that years ago. XD
Title: Re: Charas Chain Game 4 Official Thread
Post by: A Forgotten Legend on May 21, 2015, 02:48:54 AM
Rather need a girl in the middle to feud about if one is to be a romantic rival.

Yeah.. this wouldn't work with me. Not sure my boyfriend would approve.  :P

Go ahead and put me on this list then.
Title: Re: Charas Chain Game 4 Official Thread
Post by: Prpl_Mage on May 21, 2015, 05:47:24 PM
Yeah.. this wouldn't work with me. Not sure my boyfriend would approve.  :P

So Fish won?
Title: Re: Charas Chain Game 4 Official Thread
Post by: Zoltar on May 21, 2015, 09:04:32 PM
So Fish won?

Not necessarily. It could be that...gasp! Fishman is Mr Legend's boyfriend!! Dun dun daaah! :o

Back to reality I'm glad this is still going strong! I'd love to sign up for a chapter but my roomate hogs the computer so much I'm lukcy to get on.  _sweat_ But again ideas and resources requests are welcome!  :w00t:
Title: Re: Charas Chain Game 4 Official Thread
Post by: drenrin2120 on May 23, 2015, 05:06:57 AM
So I played through part of the intro...

[spoiler]Honestly, I'm annoyed and Juno has 1 Intelligence. I really am no big fan of lengthy text intros. I feel like all of that story could have been told through the characters and environment. Also, quizzing the player on whether or not they just skipped all that text and penalizing them by permanently reducing the main character's Wisdom stat by 5 points if they answer wrong is infuriating and bad game design. Just sayin'![/spoiler]

As for the world, it has potential. Really, I've grown less fond of worlds and more interested in characters so that's what I'm focused on.
Title: Re: Charas Chain Game 4 Official Thread
Post by: Prpl_Mage on May 23, 2015, 08:02:22 AM
Actually, the questions are based on the earlier chain games. And I kinda agree, we should add a reward for knowing it instead and remove the penalty.
Title: Re: Charas Chain Game 4 Official Thread
Post by: A Forgotten Legend on May 23, 2015, 03:19:39 PM
That sounds like an early side quest kind of deal to me.  If the player needs to answer them to continue then they might get really confused if they haven't played them.
Title: Re: Charas Chain Game 4 Official Thread
Post by: Prpl_Mage on May 23, 2015, 08:19:18 PM
That sounds like an early side quest kind of deal to me.
Sounds like a great idea 
Quote
If the player needs to answer them to continue then they might get really confused if they haven't played them.

Yeah that's what I was thinking as well, makes it hard for new players
Title: Re: Charas Chain Game 4 Official Thread
Post by: Fisherson on May 26, 2015, 07:31:46 PM
Not necessarily. It could be that...gasp! Fishman is Mr Legend's boyfriend!! Dun dun daaah! :o

Back to reality I'm glad this is still going strong! I'd love to sign up for a chapter but my roomate hogs the computer so much I'm lukcy to get on.  _sweat_ But again ideas and resources requests are welcome!  :w00t:

Ha! AFL wishes.  =p He's doesn't even make a descent rival,  let alone boyfriend I'd bet.

As for the the trivia challenge... What you have to keep in mind when thinking of how crudy I made is this: the pressure nearly made me crack., @u@ I'm surprised it worked as well as it did. As for why I went with knowledge the player wouldn't know? It was what I had to draw on at the time.

So I played through part of the intro...

[spoiler]Honestly, I'm annoyed and Juno has 1 Intelligence. I really am no big fan of lengthy text intros. I feel like all of that story could have been told through the characters and environment. Also, quizzing the player on whether or not they just skipped all that text and penalizing them by permanently reducing the main character's Wisdom stat by 5 points if they answer wrong is infuriating and bad game design. Just sayin'![/spoiler]

As for the world, it has potential. Really, I've grown less fond of worlds and more interested in characters so that's what I'm focused on.

Ouch. Hey that was the one bit I was proud of! T.T I'll admit I could have made the Prologue playable and took some more effort to cinamatize it.... But I was running late anyway and I do have a fondness for old school openers.
Title: Re: Charas Chain Game 4 Official Thread
Post by: Moosetroop11 on May 27, 2015, 05:38:23 PM
Status update here, I'm pleased with what I've done so far and shouldn't take too much longer but I have a four day walking/camping thing starting tomorrow morning so please bear with me.
Title: Re: Charas Chain Game 4 Official Thread
Post by: drenrin2120 on May 28, 2015, 02:41:55 PM
I have a four day walking/camping thing starting tomorrow morning so please bear with me.

<.<

As for the the trivia challenge... What you have to keep in mind when thinking of how crudy I made is this: the pressure nearly made me crack., @u@ I'm surprised it worked as well as it did. As for why I went with knowledge the player wouldn't know? It was what I had to draw on at the time.

Ouch. Hey that was the one bit I was proud of! T.T I'll admit I could have made the Prologue playable and took some more effort to cinamatize it.... But I was running late anyway and I do have a fondness for old school openers.

Sorry, I wasn't trying to be mean or anything. I just think text crawls of any kind, even ones with pretty animations, are boring as far as intros go. A lot of that story could be told through out the game rather than cramming it all in at the beginning. The player doesn't need to know every detail at first and they likely won't remember because they don't have a reason to care at that point in time. Especially in an rpg, there are lots of options for conveying story and setting: NPC dialogue, sidequests, visuals, even item names/descriptions can help set the tone and environment.

I know this is just a chain game, but a little design theory can go a long way!
Title: Re: Charas Chain Game 4 Official Thread
Post by: Fisherson on May 31, 2015, 03:06:53 AM
<.<

Sorry, I wasn't trying to be mean or anything. I just think text crawls of any kind, even ones with pretty animations, are boring as far as intros go. A lot of that story could be told through out the game rather than cramming it all in at the beginning. The player doesn't need to know every detail at first and they likely won't remember because they don't have a reason to care at that point in time. Especially in an rpg, there are lots of options for conveying story and setting: NPC dialogue, sidequests, visuals, even item names/descriptions can help set the tone and environment.

I know this is just a chain game, but a little design theory can go a long way!

I suppose you're right. Tell you what when we finish before we release it we can consider adding playable opener if you want but I wouldn't know where to begin or if we'll have the time we had on the last game to dot i's and cross t's.
Title: Re: Charas Chain Game 4 Official Thread
Post by: DragonBlaze on June 02, 2015, 05:52:49 AM
Sorry guys, I dropped the ball >.< I'm going to be in the UK for the next three weeks and then Vegas, so I won't be able to follow this thread, but I will be able to work on the game after July 5th if more work needs to be done at that time.
Title: Re: Charas Chain Game 4 Official Thread
Post by: Moosetroop11 on June 04, 2015, 05:38:05 PM
EDIT: Sorry Moosetroop, I hit 'modify' instead of 'quote' and deleted your whole post. Whoops!

You were saying? Something about meeting up with DB and being done with your chapter by Sunday?

MOOSE EDIT: Lol! The raw power of modship overwhelmed you for a second!

Yeah, basically what you said
Title: Re: Charas Chain Game 4 Official Thread
Post by: Fisherson on June 06, 2015, 05:06:36 AM
Sorry guys, I dropped the ball >.< I'm going to be in the UK for the next three weeks and then Vegas, so I won't be able to follow this thread, but I will be able to work on the game after July 5th if more work needs to be done at that time.

Tis fine. Take all the time you need. ^_^ I'll leave your chapter position where it is till you get the game. It's slow going anyway right now so it's not like we'll be held up by your chapter and to be fair you were fairly far down in the first Chain Game and your chapter is still one of my favorites.

Title: Re: Charas Chain Game 4 Official Thread
Post by: Momeka on June 08, 2015, 12:23:30 PM
So...
Title: Re: Charas Chain Game 4 Official Thread
Post by: drenrin2120 on June 09, 2015, 05:56:40 AM
Just waiting on moose. I got two days off coming up so ill atleas play through it and start some preliminary ****
Title: Re: Charas Chain Game 4 Official Thread
Post by: Moosetroop11 on June 14, 2015, 11:53:45 PM
Turns out I meant THIS sunday!!!

Yeah sorry everyone >_> But it is now finished. So I'll get it to you Dren.
Title: Re: Charas Chain Game 4 Official Thread
Post by: drenrin2120 on June 15, 2015, 09:03:45 AM
I have received Moose's package.
Title: Re: Charas Chain Game 4 Official Thread
Post by: Prpl_Mage on June 15, 2015, 04:55:05 PM
Superb!
Title: Re: Charas Chain Game 4 Official Thread
Post by: A Forgotten Legend on June 15, 2015, 09:47:13 PM
I have received Moose's package.

Giggity
Title: Re: Charas Chain Game 4 Official Thread
Post by: drenrin2120 on June 18, 2015, 07:50:37 AM
sooo... I'm stuck at the Janus station...

>.>

I'm suppose to find some guy named Drago? I don't know. Every time I go and try to get some creds I get killed by space whales.

<.<

EDIT:

I super appreciate that cameo though. Haha, of all songs, the fuckin' Jenova remix. I got a good laugh out of that.
Title: Re: Charas Chain Game 4 Official Thread
Post by: Prpl_Mage on June 18, 2015, 01:27:37 PM
That's odd, didn't a scene trigger once you entered module 1`?
Title: Re: Charas Chain Game 4 Official Thread
Post by: Prpl_Mage on June 19, 2015, 05:28:04 AM
So I replayed it and found no problem, also I didn't find any space whales. Drago can be found behind the green robot thing at the "entrance" of janus station if that's the one you're looking for.
Title: Re: Charas Chain Game 4 Official Thread
Post by: drenrin2120 on June 19, 2015, 05:51:27 AM
So I replayed it and found no problem, also I didn't find any space whales. Drago can be found behind the green robot thing at the "entrance" of janus station if that's the one you're looking for.

The space whales are random encounters. They destroy me every time.
Title: Re: Charas Chain Game 4 Official Thread
Post by: Moosetroop11 on June 19, 2015, 10:48:24 PM
You're probably having the same problem I did. You have to change some variables, I can't remember which. An event should trigger the moment you enter the station, so go into the game, find the event in that entrance map and make the changes. Then we have to figure out how to actually fix it...
Title: Re: Charas Chain Game 4 Official Thread
Post by: Prpl_Mage on June 19, 2015, 11:18:34 PM
I test played it and had no issue, however, it seems like a small area have space whale encounters. So you should avoid those.
Title: Re: Charas Chain Game 4 Official Thread
Post by: A Forgotten Legend on June 19, 2015, 11:49:45 PM
Prpl, are you testing it out with a new save or old save?  It might be somewhere along the lines the variable got changed and so an old save works and a new one doesn't.
Title: Re: Charas Chain Game 4 Official Thread
Post by: Prpl_Mage on June 20, 2015, 05:01:51 AM
Since it's in the beginning of the game I started a new one of course.
But Dren hasn't really said what the issue is, so it's hard to know if it is the same variable problem that happened before or if he just missed where he needs to go.
Title: Re: Charas Chain Game 4 Official Thread
Post by: Momeka on June 20, 2015, 12:45:20 PM
Yeah, I had the same problem with Drago never showing up when I played the early version prpl sent to me. Think I went in the project and messed around with some stuff to bring him up.
Title: Re: Charas Chain Game 4 Official Thread
Post by: Fisherson on June 21, 2015, 04:50:46 AM
Yeah, I had the same problem with Drago never showing up when I played the early version prpl sent to me. Think I went in the project and messed around with some stuff to bring him up.

Back before my RPG maker broke down I had that problem myself and even though I made the event I can't tell you why. It seemed to be setting the value to like fourteen for some reason instead of the right amount. Probably has to do with me tweaking it so you could go outside the station and get more money and EXP. ^^; I made it so the variable would be set to like two after it resolved so you wouldn't see that scene again and again.

The space whales are random encounters. They destroy me every time.

Really?! You must have leveled slow or be heavily skill dependent then. I mean the most powerful thing is they use Wail to silience you like their ocean dwelling cousins and it hits everything with medium range damage but surely with Bandit's Mine Field skill you've confused or stunned it long enough to power up Ixion's Shooting Star to max yes? One of the basic strategies I programed into them. But the Wails are bonus and only confined to one square really and mostly to guard that chest if I remember right....If they're too strong feel free to mess with 'em. I mostly did it as a joke/tribute to Prpl's awesome boss. ^_^
Title: Re: Charas Chain Game 4 Official Thread
Post by: Prpl_Mage on June 23, 2015, 05:39:47 PM
So Dren, how is it going? Did you manage to play through the game and start on your chapter?
Title: Re: Charas Chain Game 4 Official Thread
Post by: drenrin2120 on June 28, 2015, 09:33:16 AM
Sorry about that, I made it past that hiccup and I've finished the game. More on this later.

Edit: so i managed to finish my intro. I have an idea where I want to go with my chapter. Its amazing, usually Ive given up at this point. Im typing on my phone as I dont have internet right now, so its hard to go into detail as charas. Is not mobile friendly
Title: Re: Charas Chain Game 4 Official Thread
Post by: A Forgotten Legend on July 05, 2015, 08:20:21 PM
EDIT: Nevermind what I posted, I thought I was after Dren.  Similarly to my original post though, if I get this between July 27th-31st (teaching a camp 9-5) or after August 19th (start of the school year at my new job), it may take me a while.
Title: Re: Charas Chain Game 4 Official Thread
Post by: drenrin2120 on July 05, 2015, 09:51:27 PM
I hope to have my chapter finished within the next week. I've already had it way too long. Sorry guys.
Title: Re: Charas Chain Game 4 Official Thread
Post by: Fisherson on July 06, 2015, 06:41:25 AM
I hope to have my chapter finished within the next week. I've already had it way too long. Sorry guys.

It's okay, Dren. ^_^ Just make sure it's worthwhile for the extra time and nobody will mind I'm sure. I have belief in you.
Title: Re: Charas Chain Game 4 Official Thread
Post by: drenrin2120 on July 06, 2015, 07:35:14 AM
make sure it's worthwhile or else

Oh, God! The pressure!
Title: Re: Charas Chain Game 4 Official Thread
Post by: Prpl_Mage on July 06, 2015, 10:17:20 AM
Keep up the work work and you can play terraria when you are done. Just let me know if you need anything done for your chapter
Title: Re: Charas Chain Game 4 Official Thread
Post by: Fisherson on July 06, 2015, 05:23:00 PM
Oh, God! The pressure!

^__^ Hey I work good under pressure so I figured you might do well as well!

Keep up the work work and you can play terraria when you are done. Just let me know if you need anything done for your chapter

Indeed do! He's amazing at graphics. @-@ Makes me feel like such a amateur even up against my best stuff. There's was times he's literally saved my chapter in the last chain game by making me what I needed but couldn't really find no matter where I looked, even on the Japanese site. @_@
Title: Re: Charas Chain Game 4 Official Thread
Post by: Momeka on July 07, 2015, 07:37:24 PM
I'm going to be away for about three to four weeks. So if anyone wants to go before me that would be great.
Title: Re: Charas Chain Game 4 Official Thread
Post by: DragonBlaze on July 08, 2015, 12:57:11 AM
I'm going to be away for about three to four weeks. So if anyone wants to go before me that would be great.

I can swap with you since I just got back from my trip. :) I'll be gone for a few days in late July, but only 3 or 4 days.
Title: Re: Charas Chain Game 4 Official Thread
Post by: Prpl_Mage on July 13, 2015, 10:56:19 AM
So, Dren you'll be done by Sunday right?
Title: Re: Charas Chain Game 4 Official Thread
Post by: drenrin2120 on July 14, 2015, 12:26:01 AM
Sorry guys, this is taking longer than I thought. I've also been distracted by work. I'll need more time :<
Title: Re: Charas Chain Game 4 Official Thread
Post by: Prpl_Mage on July 14, 2015, 07:38:17 AM
I think you should just go with what you have, make some sort of ending and be done by sunday.
Title: Re: Charas Chain Game 4 Official Thread
Post by: drenrin2120 on July 15, 2015, 07:18:03 AM
I think you should just go with what you have, make some sort of ending and be done by sunday.

Fair enough. I feel pretty bad taking this long, but I'm excited to actually have a chapter finished in a chain game. I have a bad history of just dropping out for bullshit reasons. That said, I promise by Thursday the latest to have a copy sent to either Momeka or DragonBlaze, however you two decide to do that.
Title: Re: Charas Chain Game 4 Official Thread
Post by: Momeka on July 15, 2015, 07:05:32 PM
Yeah, probably better if DB goes ahead of me.
Title: Re: Charas Chain Game 4 Official Thread
Post by: drenrin2120 on July 17, 2015, 04:10:23 AM
I'm uploading the virus... uh, file now and will pm it to DB.

Sorry about taking so long guys. I got carried away with a few things and ended up with something that probably should've been better for the amount of time put into it. Still, this marks my first time actually completing a chapter in a Chain Game.

 :w00t:
Title: Re: Charas Chain Game 4 Official Thread
Post by: Prpl_Mage on July 17, 2015, 07:30:36 AM
Great work Dren, I know you could do it! Let's just hope that our dragon shows up this time.
Title: Re: Charas Chain Game 4 Official Thread
Post by: DragonBlaze on July 17, 2015, 05:42:59 PM
Woot! I'll actually work on my chapter this time around. I'll start playing through the game tomorrow. Now I just need to find my rm2k3 installer...

BTW, I have absolutely no details on what this game is about or like, so I'm super excited to play through it!
Title: Re: Charas Chain Game 4 Official Thread
Post by: DragonBlaze on July 19, 2015, 05:12:44 PM
Alright I just finished playing through the game! It took a little while because there were a fair amount of bugs that caused me to quit, fix an issue, and then replay scenes <.<

I have a pretty good idea of what I want to do with my chapter. Does anyone have, or can anyone make, a top down image of the Jewel around the same size as the side view image? I have a case of monster to drink and I'm going to attempt to make an epic mini game in a few days that will push the limits of the rm2k3 engine.

Edit: The base for my pixel/vector based space combat system is complete, but god damn, trying to convert normal programming functions to rm2k3 scripts is like trying to paint the Mona Lisa with a paint ball gun...

Title: Re: Charas Chain Game 4 Official Thread
Post by: Prpl_Mage on July 20, 2015, 07:59:45 AM
I'll fix it for you, is it the same as the one I made or has there been alterations to the design yet?

Also, do you want it to have the same size as in precise measurements or is it okay if it deviates some. I'm thinking that it will be just as long but might become a bit broader.
Title: Re: Charas Chain Game 4 Official Thread
Post by: Prpl_Mage on July 20, 2015, 04:45:42 PM
Finished kinda quickly, sounded like you were almost done with the programming. Feel free to make edits to it, it just tried to keep it as close to the original picture's size.
(http://i62.tinypic.com/15owk09.png)
Title: Re: Charas Chain Game 4 Official Thread
Post by: DragonBlaze on July 20, 2015, 04:50:52 PM
I'll fix it for you, is it the same as the one I made or has there been alterations to the design yet?

Also, do you want it to have the same size as in precise measurements or is it okay if it deviates some. I'm thinking that it will be just as long but might become a bit broader.

[spoiler]
There haven't been any modifications yet, but since I'm going to add weapons to the ship, you can modify the ship to reflect that.
[/spoiler]

It's fine if it deviates. I think I will have a completely top down view, and if the ship turns left or right, I would just rotate the top down view 25% or something.

Update: Wow you posted that as I was replying. Looks good! I still have a few days of programming left, but I got the hard part and the basics complete.
Title: Re: Charas Chain Game 4 Official Thread
Post by: Prpl_Mage on July 20, 2015, 05:35:37 PM
Glad you like it, let me know if you need anything else.
Title: Re: Charas Chain Game 4 Official Thread
Post by: Moosetroop11 on July 21, 2015, 09:19:56 PM
This chain game is grrreeat.
Title: Re: Charas Chain Game 4 Official Thread
Post by: Dr. Ace on July 22, 2015, 10:12:11 AM
It's going to take a almost year from start until it's done right? We're halfway down the list and 5 months passed.
Title: Re: Charas Chain Game 4 Official Thread
Post by: Prpl_Mage on July 22, 2015, 04:34:36 PM
Well there are only 2 more chapters planned so far. So it might not end up being 10 chapters.
Title: Re: Charas Chain Game 4 Official Thread
Post by: Fisherson on July 23, 2015, 06:23:09 PM
Personally I've never seen the point in rushing just as fast as you possibly can to fix a chain game. =/ Seems it's mostly us who really appreciates all the work we put in is well us why don't we just take our time and do all we want to do? Honestly some of my favorite indie games take years and end up being amazing after all that wait. I mean even main stream games take years, and years and get cancelled then picked up and take more years and we MAY get quality. I know if you guys weren't rushed the game would benefit. I dunno maybe that's just my delusional self.
Title: Re: Charas Chain Game 4 Official Thread
Post by: Moosetroop11 on July 24, 2015, 12:31:00 AM
Well the key philosophy here is not 'get the game as quickly as possible' but rather 'deadlines are good for game development'.

If you're given two months to do something, you end up doing almost the same amount of work as if you were given two days, usually.
Title: Re: Charas Chain Game 4 Official Thread
Post by: DragonBlaze on July 24, 2015, 02:53:43 AM
Pretty sure this happens with every chain game we make. The only time I use rm2k3 is when I work on a chain game, so it's kind of nice not to just try to rush through it in a week.

A quick update on my chapter. I typically don't have much time on week nights to do much, but I got a lot done when I first got the game last weekend, and I plan to finish my mini game this next weekend. Unfortunately I'm traveling to New York for work Tuesday through Friday night, but I want to wrap up everything and pass the game on within a week when I get back.
Title: Re: Charas Chain Game 4 Official Thread
Post by: Prpl_Mage on July 24, 2015, 07:25:28 AM
I mean even main stream games take years, and years and get cancelled then picked up and take more years and we MAY get quality. I know if you guys weren't rushed the game would benefit. I dunno maybe that's just my delusional self.
Most of the time there is a game with great potential, but then the progress slows to a stop for different reasons and then the game is cancelled.

As students in school what assignment did the we put the most effort into? The paper that was due in 2 months or the paper that you had to 5 days to finish? As Moose mentioned, the longer you give someone to do something, the more postponing it will be since people feel like "Eh, no rush I have plenty of time".
And in the case of a chaingame, well if one person don't finish, the other peoples' turn will come later and interest will be lost.

And that's great DB, you haven't had the chapter for a long time but it's nice to hear you're making such progress.
Title: Re: Charas Chain Game 4 Official Thread
Post by: Prpl_Mage on August 04, 2015, 07:12:19 AM
I think it's time for a progress update right?
Title: Re: Charas Chain Game 4 Official Thread
Post by: DragonBlaze on August 04, 2015, 05:37:59 PM
So my progress update... Well things are pretty awesome right now, but they've been moving painfully slow. I'm almost done with mapping, but I plan for the majority of my chapter to use the new system I'm working on. In terms of the new system, I just have to finish up the AI and set up two more levels. Rm2k3 has the worst coding experience ever, and if you make one mistake, it's hard to find.

JavaScript for example:
var x,y,det,A1,B1,C1,A2,B2,C2;
A1 = e1.y2 - e1.y1;
B1 = e1.x1 - e1.x2;
C1 = A1*e1.x1 + B1*e1.y1;
A2 = e2.y2 - e2.y1;
B2 = e2.x1 - e2.x2;
C2 = A2*e2.x1 + B2*e2.y1;
det = A1*B2 - A2*B1;
if (det != 0) {
  x = (B2*C1 - B1*C2)/det;
  y = (A1*C2 - A2*c1)/det;
}
return Math.min(e1.x1,e1.x2) <= x <=  Math.max(e1.x1,e1.x2) &&  Math.min(e1.y1,e1.y2) <= y <=  Math.max(e1.y1,e1.y2) &&  Math.min(e2.x1,e2.x2) <= x <=  Math.max(e2.x1,e2.x2) &&  Math.min(e2.y1,e2.y2) <= y <=  Math.max(e2.y1,e2.y2);

In rm2k3 (this looks much prettier since I use names instead of just variable numbers)...
Intersect OFF
variableIndex = currentShot;
variableIndex * statsPerShot;
variableIndex + shotOffset;
variableIndex + xPosOffset;
temp1XPos = value stored in index (variableIndex);
variableIndex = currentShot;
variableIndex * statsPerShot;
variableIndex + shotOffset;
variableIndex + yPosOffset;
temp1YPos = value stored in index (variableIndex);
variableIndex = currentShot;
variableIndex * statsPerShot;
variableIndex + shotOffset;
variableIndex + xVelOffset;
temp1XVel = value stored in index (variableIndex);
variableIndex = currentShot;
variableIndex * statsPerShot;
variableIndex + shotOffset;
variableIndex + yVelOffset;
temp1YVel = value stored in index (variableIndex);
variableIndex = currentEntity;
variableIndex * statsPerEntity;
variableIndex + entityOffset;
variableIndex + xPosOffset;
temp2XPos = value stored in index (variableIndex);
variableIndex = currentEntity;
variableIndex * statsPerEntity;
variableIndex + entityOffset;
variableIndex + yPosOffset;
temp2YPos = value stored in index (variableIndex);
variableIndex = currentEntity;
variableIndex * statsPerEntity;
variableIndex + entityOffset;
variableIndex + xVelOffset;
temp2XVel = value stored in index (variableIndex);
variableIndex = currentEntity;
variableIndex * statsPerEntity;
variableIndex + entityOffset;
variableIndex + yVelOffset;
temp2YVel = value stored in index (variableIndex);
A1 = temp1YVel
B1 = temp1XVel
B1 * -1
C1 = A1
C1 * temp1Xpos
temp1 = B1
temp1 * temp1Ypos
C1 - temp1
A2 = temp2YVel
B2 = temp2XVel
B2 * -1
C2 = A2
C2 * temp2Xpos
temp1 = B2
temp1 * temp2Ypos
C2 - temp1
det = A1
det * B2
temp1 = A2
temp1 * B1
det - temp1
if (det != 0 {
x = B2
x * C1
temp1 = B1
temp1 * C2
x - temp1
x / det
y = A1
y * C2
temp1 = A2
temp1 * C1
y - temp1
y / det
temp1 = temp1XPos
temp2 = temp1XPos
if (temp1XVel > 0) {
 temp2 + temp1Xvel
}
else {
 temp1 - temp1Xvel
}
if (x >= temp1) {
 if (x <= temp2) {
  temp1 = temp1YPos
  temp2 = temp1YPos
  if (temp1YVel > 0) {
   temp2 + temp1Yvel
  }
  else {
   temp1 - temp1Yvel
  }
  if (y >= temp1) {
   if (y <= temp2) {
    temp1 = temp2XPos
    temp2 = temp2XPos
    if (temp2XVel > 0) {
     temp2 + temp2Xvel
    }
    else {
     temp1 - temp2Xvel
    }
    if (x >= temp1) {
     if (x <= temp2) {
      temp1 = temp2YPos
      temp2 = temp2YPos
      if (temp2YVel > 0) {
       temp2 + temp2Yvel
      }
      else {
       temp1 - temp2Yvel
      }
      if (y >= temp1) {
      if (y <= temp2) {
       Intersect ON
     }
    }
   }
  }
 }
}
}

I'm going to include a puzzle/quiz that involves looking at code, so I hope you were paying attention hehe.
Title: Re: Charas Chain Game 4 Official Thread
Post by: Prpl_Mage on August 04, 2015, 10:56:38 PM
Man, the fact that I get that code scares me.
Title: Re: Charas Chain Game 4 Official Thread
Post by: DragonBlaze on August 10, 2015, 08:23:01 AM
Has anyone tried editing an rm2k3 game with the Stream version of rm2k3 and then go back to the old translated version?

I was running into performance issues when I was using 1.08, but opening up a copy of the game in the steam version and converting the project magically fixed everything. It seems like I can open the game in my old 1.08 with no issues, but I don't want corrupt the game for anyone else.
Title: Re: Charas Chain Game 4 Official Thread
Post by: Fisherson on August 11, 2015, 10:30:47 PM
Has anyone tried editing an rm2k3 game with the Stream version of rm2k3 and then go back to the old translated version?

I was running into performance issues when I was using 1.08, but opening up a copy of the game in the steam version and converting the project magically fixed everything. It seems like I can open the game in my old 1.08 with no issues, but I don't want corrupt the game for anyone else.

I worried about that when we began since some of us can afford the new maker and had already installed it before we got our chapters and that'd make it impossible to play on RPG Maker Tsukuru (Pirated 2003's new name). I can't test it since my pirated copy died and I couldn't find one so I finally gave up and managed to DL the new one....any volunteers to test this scientific theory? I'll give any volunteer a cookie~?
Title: Re: Charas Chain Game 4 Official Thread
Post by: DragonBlaze on August 12, 2015, 08:00:51 AM
Good news and bad news.. The good news is I finished all of the code for my custom system, created the levels, created all of the graphics, and things seemed to be running well. The bad news is that I learned that each time you call an event in rm2k3, it takes 0.0165 seconds, which means the entire thing lags like hell. To fix the lag, I need to do two things.
1. Once a picture is drawn, make sure to move it instead of trying to redraw it, which should lead to smoother animations.
2. Be much smarter about making check to see if an event should be called before calling it. So for example, when there is a common event to check for a collision, check to see if there is an entity that is eligible for a collision before calling the event instead of checking to see if the entity is eligible for a collision within the called event. 

I feel bad for taking too long, but hopefully my chapter will be worth it once it's complete. Plus my system will be easily reusable if anyone else wants to make new scenes.
Title: Re: Charas Chain Game 4 Official Thread
Post by: Prpl_Mage on August 12, 2015, 05:33:12 PM
Sounds awesome
Title: Re: Charas Chain Game 4 Official Thread
Post by: Moosetroop11 on August 13, 2015, 12:49:04 AM
I remember someone (meiscool?) going on about putting 0.0 waits in code which reduced lag somehow.
Title: Re: Charas Chain Game 4 Official Thread
Post by: DragonBlaze on August 13, 2015, 02:09:55 AM
Yeah, wait 0.0 actually waits 0.0165 seconds, giving time for rm2k3 to execute the commands before it tries to execute them again in a loop or parallel process event. I only have one label loop powering everything, but so many commands are being executed in that loop that I need five or six wait 0.0 commands to make everything run smoothly, which gives me roughly 10 frames a second. I was doing a lot of my animation by redrawing pictures around 30 times a second, which gave a smooth looking animation, but 10 frames will be too choppy. Moving pictures instead of drawing them should at least make the animations look smoother. As for the rest of the system, there's certain common events that I call ~200 times in a row, and I can probably be a little more efficient on how I handle that.
Title: Re: Charas Chain Game 4 Official Thread
Post by: Prpl_Mage on August 21, 2015, 03:46:59 PM
So, how is progress?
Title: Re: Charas Chain Game 4 Official Thread
Post by: DragonBlaze on August 21, 2015, 05:17:09 PM
Fixed all of the issues I mentioned earlier, and everything is running smoothly other than a few bugs that don't really have a big impact, so I'm not fixing them. My weekend is completely open, so I'm planning on wrapping it up by Sunday night.

Who's next, Momeka? Are you ready to start soon? Who should I send the download link to?
Title: Re: Charas Chain Game 4 Official Thread
Post by: Fisherson on August 23, 2015, 01:17:00 AM
I think you send it to Purps then he sends me a copy which I can't retrieve and peek at till I get to Wi-Fi. >-> But then again I'm a tiny bit out of the loop right now.
Title: Re: Charas Chain Game 4 Official Thread
Post by: Prpl_Mage on August 23, 2015, 09:40:16 AM
I suppose it's either Momeka or AFL. Depends on who has time now.
Title: Re: Charas Chain Game 4 Official Thread
Post by: Momeka on August 23, 2015, 09:41:20 AM
Yeah, I can do it. So you can send it to me.
Title: Re: Charas Chain Game 4 Official Thread
Post by: DragonBlaze on August 24, 2015, 04:51:42 AM
Didn't finish :( Wrapping up the dungeon I was working on took longer than I thought. I finished that part, but I still need to tie all of the parts of my chapter together. It should be done very soon though.
Title: Re: Charas Chain Game 4 Official Thread
Post by: A Forgotten Legend on August 24, 2015, 09:03:03 PM
I had my first day of school as a teacher today, so I'm a little overbooked at the moment. Thank you for taking it Momeka.
Title: Re: Charas Chain Game 4 Official Thread
Post by: Dr. Ace on August 25, 2015, 12:41:34 PM
Hey DragonBreath, hurry up! Fred and I want to make the most wicked chapter of them all! (Due to busy schedules we're dividing the workload together).

Also I know your feels AFL, next week all my classes are starting as well and I'm swamped with learning three new classes to teach.
Title: Re: Charas Chain Game 4 Official Thread
Post by: Prpl_Mage on August 25, 2015, 07:13:10 PM
We started this week, but no biggie since I had my things planned out. But I really like to see this progressing.
Title: Re: Charas Chain Game 4 Official Thread
Post by: Fisherson on August 26, 2015, 06:03:30 PM
Heh sounds like it's still moving along. I'm just curious to see what all ya'll have done to it since me and Purps. I only have the second chapter backed up. <.< Would be nice to have more since my laptop can use Wi-Fi and isn't as unrelliable as the dial up. IE: I can DL when I want to. Heck I MAY be able to do the last chapter in traditional style of the guy who started it usually ends it.  Though not till I get my Infran Veiw and get used to using RPG maker on a laptop XD
Title: Re: Charas Chain Game 4 Official Thread
Post by: zuhane on August 27, 2015, 12:48:47 AM
I would love to do some music for this game if you guys wanted anything relaxing/ambient/acoustic.
Title: Re: Charas Chain Game 4 Official Thread
Post by: Prpl_Mage on August 28, 2015, 03:44:22 PM
I would love to do some music for this game if you guys wanted anything relaxing/ambient/acoustic.


Do it
Title: Re: Charas Chain Game 4 Official Thread
Post by: DragonBlaze on August 29, 2015, 09:42:50 AM
Alright update, it's going to be another month... Haha just kidding, I only have two or three hours left, so if I have time to work on it tomorrow to work on it I'll finish it tomorrow, otherwise Sunday at the latest. I just need to add a bit dialogue and balance some AI variables. Unfortunately I have very little time on weekdays to work on this, and I discovered that adding too many entities to my custom battle scenes killed performance. I was able to fix the performance issues by decreasing the time of each update loop by 250%, which should hopefully perform good on any computer. With those adjustments though mean I have to update all of the AI velocities, acceleration, and weapon cool down rates, but it's just a matter of trying different values until everything seems right.

I wish I could have developed characters a bit more, but I've had this game for far too long, and I want to hand it off ASAP.
Title: Re: Charas Chain Game 4 Official Thread
Post by: Zoltar on August 29, 2015, 06:34:02 PM
Wow! Um... So this is still going? That's amazing. Can't wait to try since I only got to play two so far but they were both satisfying.
Title: Re: Charas Chain Game 4 Official Thread
Post by: DragonBlaze on August 31, 2015, 07:23:16 AM
Done!

Well I finished and passed the game along, but my custom system performed poorly on a second computer when I tested it. Because of this I added some different performance settings, but I have no idea what adjustments are needed for different computers. Because of this, I would like some people to test the game!  I'll just include one level of the custom system, explain how to adjust the graphics settings, and ask for you to tell me how it works and performs on each of the three settings, as well as what type of CPU your computer has.
Title: Re: Charas Chain Game 4 Official Thread
Post by: Momeka on August 31, 2015, 07:49:15 AM
All right, got the game.

I'll be away the two coming weekends and unsure how much time I will have to work on it during the weekdays. But I'll try to have it done pretty soon.

Should I use the old rpg maker 2K3 or the steam version?
Title: Re: Charas Chain Game 4 Official Thread
Post by: DragonBlaze on August 31, 2015, 08:01:51 AM
You should be able to use either. I have two computers, on one I used the official steam version, and on the other I used the "other" version.  if you try to open the steam version in the other version, it will throw some sort of error about the RTP. To fix it, all you need to do is edit the RPG_RT.ini and add the line "FullPackageFlag=1". It seems every time you run the steam version, it removes that line, but if you run the non steam version, it keeps that line and keeps working. If anyone wants to use the steam version, just make sure to add that line when you pass it on. It seems like rm2k3 may have removed it on me, so you or prpl may need to add it again if you don't have the steam version.

Being away for two weekends is fine, it may give me time to fix any performance issues that people have before you start development :p (hopefully there aren't any)
Title: Re: Charas Chain Game 4 Official Thread
Post by: Prpl_Mage on September 06, 2015, 07:28:55 AM
Just wanted to say great job to everyone who has made a chapter so far. I couldn't help myself from playing it-
Title: Re: Charas Chain Game 4 Official Thread
Post by: Fisherson on September 07, 2015, 11:55:20 PM
Just wanted to say great job to everyone who has made a chapter so far. I couldn't help myself from playing it-

I would have done so as well but nobody sends me backups anymore! xD Which is anoying since I can DL them with ease as I'm sure I've said twice now probably.
Title: Re: Charas Chain Game 4 Official Thread
Post by: Momeka on September 08, 2015, 03:22:12 PM
Hey guys, quick update. I've started playing the game. Gonna try to play through it this week so I can get started working on my chapter next week. Also is there any docs to write down bugs and mistakes at or should I just ignore them?
Title: Re: Charas Chain Game 4 Official Thread
Post by: Prpl_Mage on September 08, 2015, 05:09:53 PM
I have a few written down but no Drive file that we can all edit.
Title: Re: Charas Chain Game 4 Official Thread
Post by: Momeka on September 15, 2015, 09:33:14 PM
Hey, I just played through the game. Sorry it took so long, had my hands full the last two weeks but I got more free time now. And great job everyone.

I'll get started on my chapter tomorrow.
Title: Re: Charas Chain Game 4 Official Thread
Post by: Moosetroop11 on September 16, 2015, 02:57:52 PM
Sweeeet.
Title: Re: Charas Chain Game 4 Official Thread
Post by: Fisherson on September 18, 2015, 03:47:18 AM
Okay I just played all the way nearly tot he end and I have to say I love how consistent the story has been on this one! =O Usually it's the one thing you can't count on with a Chain Game but honestly I think we've all done pretty professional fapping storylines! ^o^ I am particularly impressed with the amount of player choice in this and I think that'll be fun for a replay factor. Nice job guys! Keep up the good work!
Title: Re: Charas Chain Game 4 Official Thread
Post by: Momeka on September 20, 2015, 09:28:33 PM
Well, **** is going real slow. Been having to do overtime at work and other life stuff that's been in the way. Hopefully I will have some more time for this next week.

But hey, just finished a traveling merchant person.

(http://i.imgur.com/ugouEnk.gif)
Title: Re: Charas Chain Game 4 Official Thread
Post by: Prpl_Mage on September 20, 2015, 10:11:11 PM
That's a great travelling merchant
Title: Re: Charas Chain Game 4 Official Thread
Post by: Fisherson on September 20, 2015, 11:12:44 PM
Well, **** is going real slow. Been having to do overtime at work and other life stuff that's been in the way. Hopefully I will have some more time for this next week.

But hey, just finished a traveling merchant person.

(http://i.imgur.com/ugouEnk.gif)

8O Look out,Awesomely Made Traveling Merchant! A Teenaged Mutant Ninja....something is after ya!

XD In all seriousness that's pretty nice, Red!
Title: Re: Charas Chain Game 4 Official Thread
Post by: Momeka on September 23, 2015, 07:41:43 PM
Update:
Finished the open world area. (http://momeka.com/files/cg2-map.png)

Now I "just" got the interior map, populate the world and making about one million teleportation events left. Really want to try to finish it this weekend, but not sure I will be able to make it.
Title: Re: Charas Chain Game 4 Official Thread
Post by: DragonBlaze on September 24, 2015, 06:16:08 AM
That looks awesome dude. I'm really excited to see how it turns out! Charas really needs a "like" operation for posts :p

On a side note, I think our chain games have evolved greatly over time. If anyone still has #1 and #2, I would love to play through them if you could send me the links ;)
Title: Re: Charas Chain Game 4 Official Thread
Post by: Dr. Ace on September 24, 2015, 07:07:31 AM
Looks bitching M, good job.
Title: Re: Charas Chain Game 4 Official Thread
Post by: Fisherson on September 25, 2015, 05:24:38 PM
Update:
Finished the open world area. (http://momeka.com/files/cg2-map.png)

Now I "just" got the interior map, populate the world and making about one million teleportation events left. Really want to try to finish it this weekend, but not sure I will be able to make it.

O__O; Daaaang! You make me feel lazy for all the small maps I made int he first chapter probably wouldn't even fit into half of that space. Not worried about lag?

That looks awesome dude. I'm really excited to see how it turns out! Charas really needs a "like" operation for posts :p

On a side note, I think our chain games have evolved greatly over time. If anyone still has #1 and #2, I would love to play through them if you could send me the links ;)

I usually am fully against social media-related things getting into things I love, such as a hash tags on DA ugh, but I too would like a way to show appreciation besides commenting on a topic. I also say it's defiantly my favorite so far cause the story has yet to spiral into total randomness and is going way beyond even my vision for it o.o; I may have to take back my words and actually write the end if it keeps going this good. Though I'm not afraid to admit I'd be nervous I couldn't live up to the story. XD
Title: Re: Charas Chain Game 4 Official Thread
Post by: Momeka on September 26, 2015, 07:19:36 AM
That looks awesome dude. I'm really excited to see how it turns out! Charas really needs a "like" operation for posts :p

On a side note, I think our chain games have evolved greatly over time. If anyone still has #1 and #2, I would love to play through them if you could send me the links ;)

Thanks, DB. I think a link to the first was posted in the last chain game thread.

O__O; Daaaang! You make me feel lazy for all the small maps I made int he first chapter probably wouldn't even fit into half of that space. Not worried about lag?

It's actually several smaller maps. I just added them together to see where I had failed with the tiling.


Also I'm not going to be able to finish this weekend.
Title: Re: Charas Chain Game 4 Official Thread
Post by: Momeka on October 01, 2015, 06:43:07 AM
Quick update:
Finished about 95% of all the maps.
Finished about 99% of the graphics.
Got a custom trading system left to code.
And all dialogue left to write.

Going to be able to finish it this weekend.

Title: Re: Charas Chain Game 4 Official Thread
Post by: Prpl_Mage on October 01, 2015, 05:57:57 PM
Going to be able to finish it this weekend.

Nice
Title: Re: Charas Chain Game 4 Official Thread
Post by: Fisherson on October 02, 2015, 04:40:48 AM
Quick update:
Finished about 95% of all the maps.
Finished about 99% of the graphics.
Got a custom trading system left to code.
And all dialogue left to write.

Going to be able to finish it this weekend.



Woot! Way to go, Red! You'll be our fastest finisher I think. o.O
Title: Re: Charas Chain Game 4 Official Thread
Post by: Prpl_Mage on October 02, 2015, 05:26:16 AM
Woot! Way to go, Red! You'll be our fastest finisher I think. o.O

Nope, I used 2 weeks.
Title: Re: Charas Chain Game 4 Official Thread
Post by: Momeka on October 02, 2015, 06:21:49 AM
Yeah, I've had it over a month I think. And the thing I'm making is waaay too big, should have stuck with something around the size of my last chain game chapters. But I'll have it done this weekend, I'll start cutting away stuff if it looks like I'm not going to be able to make it.
Title: Re: Charas Chain Game 4 Official Thread
Post by: Fisherson on October 04, 2015, 01:45:35 AM
Nope, I used 2 weeks.

Ah yes that's true. Two weeks?? It should be a record.
Title: Re: Charas Chain Game 4 Official Thread
Post by: Prpl_Mage on October 04, 2015, 09:24:05 AM
Well wasn't 2 weeks what we said when we started this?

I suppose we need to set stricter rules for future games to be able to keep such deadlines though.
- 3 days to play through the game
- 2 weeks to create your chapter
- No more than 3 treasure chest
- No more than 1 new character
- 1 new weapon for all characters, and at least 1 new armor piece of all types (shield, helm, armor, accessory)
- At least 1 boss battle
Title: Re: Charas Chain Game 4 Official Thread
Post by: Momeka on October 04, 2015, 10:57:46 AM
I do agree with deadline. There is just no good way to reinforce them, you could kick them off if they go over I guess. But it's not like there is a high demand on the chapters, this one isn't even filled yet. So you would either end up with a really short game or no game at all.

I can agree on limiting the number of heroes you can add. It's kinda lame when the whole party is filled after chapter 2. And the party swapping system hasn't worked that well in any chain game yet, cause there is no good way to access it. And making a custom menu system or something like that for a chain game would just be a hassle.

Don't really see the need of putting a rule on how many treasure chest, items and bosses etc. you need to put in your chapter though. If you want to limit their scope of their chapter, I guess you could put a limit on the playtime of their chapter. Like it max have to be 20 min, but that also gets hard to measure if you do something puzzle base.
Title: Re: Charas Chain Game 4 Official Thread
Post by: Prpl_Mage on October 05, 2015, 07:13:51 PM
Nah I just meant that we need to set strict rules if we ever want to hold a strict deadline.

And I don't think that is the ambition any more.
Title: Re: Charas Chain Game 4 Official Thread
Post by: Momeka on October 05, 2015, 09:38:35 PM
Well, my chapter is a ****ing mess. Lesson learned, stick with something I can finish over a weekend. I'm uploading it now. I'll pm it to people when it's up.

Edit: sent.

Edit 2:

You should be able to use either. I have two computers, on one I used the official steam version, and on the other I used the "other" version.  if you try to open the steam version in the other version, it will throw some sort of error about the RTP. To fix it, all you need to do is edit the RPG_RT.ini and add the line "FullPackageFlag=1". It seems every time you run the steam version, it removes that line, but if you run the non steam version, it keeps that line and keeps working. If anyone wants to use the steam version, just make sure to add that line when you pass it on. It seems like rm2k3 may have removed it on me, so you or prpl may need to add it again if you don't have the steam version.

I just remembered I forgot to do this. So if the next person (AFL?) uses the non steam version you might need to do that.
Title: Re: Charas Chain Game 4 Official Thread
Post by: A Forgotten Legend on October 06, 2015, 08:42:17 PM
I'm using the steam version, but I'll keep that in mind.  So, I'll try to play through this a bit this week.  I missed school yesterday, so I have a bunch of paperwork and assignments to get to students.  Hopefully I'll at least have finished the game this weekend!

Also... I'm not the one who needs to make the ending right?  'Cause...  that might not be the best idea. Haha
Title: Re: Charas Chain Game 4 Official Thread
Post by: Prpl_Mage on October 06, 2015, 09:43:58 PM
Nah leave it for someone else to make
Title: Re: Charas Chain Game 4 Official Thread
Post by: Fisherson on October 09, 2015, 06:28:57 PM
Actually if somebody will take one or more chapters after AFL I WILL make the end chapter. I decided I may as well end it but I would like a little more story between now and then. Also I think we need to make a place to discuss some after-game or mid game options we may wish to add to the final product and what all we wish to cut or correct this go around.
Title: Re: Charas Chain Game 4 Official Thread
Post by: A Forgotten Legend on October 10, 2015, 04:39:30 PM
Somewhere in chapter 2 two things happened..  I can no longer access the menu and the message box changed to transparent center.  Also Fish, that beginning made me really annoyed.  Mostly because I lost so much INT that I am left with 1 INT...
Title: Re: Charas Chain Game 4 Official Thread
Post by: DragonBlaze on October 10, 2015, 06:42:39 PM
Somewhere in chapter 2 two things happened..  I can no longer access the menu and the message box changed to transparent center.  Also Fish, that beginning made me really annoyed.  Mostly because I lost so much INT that I am left with 1 INT...

Yeah that happens several places in the game.. Also in chapter 4, there are no save points, you can't access the menu, and while I think you were supposed to have the whole party with you, you only had Juno. I placed "cheat ghosts" throughout the game that enabled saving and the menu (and gave me some gold and items..), but I removed them before I passed the game on. I recommend doing that in chapters 2 , 3, and 4 in some common areas.

Actually if somebody will take one or more chapters after AFL I WILL make the end chapter. I decided I may as well end it but I would like a little more story between now and then. Also I think we need to make a place to discuss some after-game or mid game options we may wish to add to the final product and what all we wish to cut or correct this go around.

I wouldn't mind doing another chapter if someone else goes after AFL. I don't want to do two chapters so close together. My schedule is pretty open until the end of December, and this time around, I would only focus on the story instead of custom systems, so it won't take me so long.
Title: Re: Charas Chain Game 4 Official Thread
Post by: A Forgotten Legend on October 10, 2015, 08:05:24 PM
Good to know!

Edit: [spoiler]Naming the ship Big_Red_Dick was a great life choice with some of Juno's dialogue.

I seriously am getting tired of these missles... I'm at my tenth attempt.[/spoiler]
Title: Re: Charas Chain Game 4 Official Thread
Post by: DragonBlaze on October 10, 2015, 11:22:16 PM
Ehm yeah that part may be too difficult. Also the sections after that part get harder.. Here's how to cheat with that system.

[spoiler]
For the missiles, go to common event 1036: generateEntity. In the first conditional branch, the one with a comment "missile", there is a variable option setting Temp 1 Y Vel = 20. Go ahead and set it to 10 or 5 to slow them down. Just don't set them to 0 because the missiles are generated off screen and if they have no velocity, they will never come on screen. Generally my strategy is to shoot them from the side, and if I miss one, get behind it and chase it.

For everything else, I created a special set a variable meant to boost the ship stats. These variables are 941 through 950. So you can boost the max shields, max hull, and damage to be really high. You can also boost the acceleration, max speed, radar range, break (how quickly the ship comes to stop) etc. These boost variables are added onto the base stats when the system is initialized, so just make sure to set them before the missile scene starts. Or if you want to just modify the stats as you're playing, all of the player stats are variables 1081 - 1100.
[/spoiler]
Title: Re: Charas Chain Game 4 Official Thread
Post by: A Forgotten Legend on October 11, 2015, 12:06:41 AM
[Spoiler]THANK YOU.  It also seems to lag a LOT on my computer, and that doesn't help.  (Its a windows tablet, so its not very heavy duty)[/spoiler]

I should be finished playing tonight if I can make it past chapter 5, hopefully I can start planning tomorrow.
Title: Re: Charas Chain Game 4 Official Thread
Post by: DragonBlaze on October 11, 2015, 12:13:29 AM
Yeah I tried testing it on a Windows Surface computer and it did lag a fair amount. If you go to common event 1000, at the very top there is a graphic setting variable. If it is set to 0, set it to 1. Or if that doesn't work, you can try setting it to 2. Essentially 0 will wait .1 seconds before the main loop, 1 will wait .2 seconds, and 2 will wait .3 seconds. The pictures still move nicely because the rm2k3 engine still will move them, but the system will run a bit sluggish because there is a noticeable delay in input/updates.

I think the 0 setting will work fine for most computers, but the mobile/tablet processors can't quite handle it. If you do set the graphic setting to 1 or 2, try to set it back to 0 before you pass it on.
Title: Re: Charas Chain Game 4 Official Thread
Post by: A Forgotten Legend on October 11, 2015, 12:50:17 AM
[Spoiler]Hm, my biggest problem is that the laser appears so far away from me that it will sometimes spawn on the other side of the missles.[/spoiler]
Title: Re: Charas Chain Game 4 Official Thread
Post by: Fisherson on October 11, 2015, 12:57:19 AM
Somewhere in chapter 2 two things happened..  I can no longer access the menu and the message box changed to transparent center.  Also Fish, that beginning made me really annoyed.  Mostly because I lost so much INT that I am left with 1 INT...

XD I'm sorry but that makes me laugh so hard. Okay I must agree that one is annoying. ^^; I intend to go back and make it reward INT for getting it right although if you feel you were slighted start again, use the Cheat Shop and go through again faster or look at what switches are needed and trigger them using the debug menu. Nothing says you have to play fair to get through. ^_-

Good to know!

Edit: [spoiler]Naming the ship Big_Red_Dick was a great life choice with some of Juno's dialogue.

I seriously am getting tired of these missiles... I'm at my tenth attempt.[/spoiler]

XD Yeah Juno's dialogue is a bit rough. Again when I made her I didn't want her to be a Terra of FF6 tough but soft spoken, or a Tifa with cheery dialogue and not much cursing or roughness presented.I wanted a practical tough heroine who wasn't that soft. Now admittedly I didn't intend for her to be cursing and spitting all throughout the game but still we'll save it for the Story Google Doc I'm working to make right now and add it to the "Clean Up Phase" of the game.

That being said those missiles were murder. XD I had to keep replenishing my health and shields and max out my shot's power using cheats to get past them and even then it took days. @-@
Title: Re: Charas Chain Game 4 Official Thread
Post by: A Forgotten Legend on October 11, 2015, 02:21:11 AM
I may or may not have put a teleport event before it to the end of the section so I could move on...

Also, what are the SF midis from? (specifically "SF-Battle" - I am currently enjoying the journey - any way you want it midi though lol)
Title: Re: Charas Chain Game 4 Official Thread
Post by: DragonBlaze on October 11, 2015, 05:04:11 AM
The best way to skip that level would be to change variable 101 space level 1 prog to 30 after the system loads. It will think all of the missiles are destroyed and naturally progress you to the next level. After the missile level you progress to level 2, to skip that one set 102 space level 2 prog = 20, then you go on to level 5 set 133 Space level 5 prog = 30, then level 6 set 134 space level 6 prog  = 30, finally you go to level 3 and set 103 space level 4 prog = 20.

As for the lasers appearing far out, that should be easily fixed. Actually go to Common Event 1001 Game Loop. Near the bottom a lot of events are being called, the current order is:
recycleShots
Get Inputs
Update
Move Entities
Draw Entities
Draw Shots
Draw HUD
Check Collisions

If you move Update and Move Entities to after Check Collisions, that issue should go away. There may be some visual issues if things are drawn before updating.. but who knows. The collision detection just uses line intersections based on the missiles bounding box and the lasers position + velocity. It seems like it will move it's first segment before checking for collisions. If the game has a fast update loop this wouldn't really be an issue.

The SF midis? A long long time ago I was working on a game called SilverFire and I searched the internet for midis I liked and and labeled them into categories that would make them easy to use. During a previous chain game I imported most of the assets from SilverFire.
Title: Re: Charas Chain Game 4 Official Thread
Post by: Prpl_Mage on October 11, 2015, 07:28:14 AM
Yeah the missile part was kinda tricky, the parts afterwards are even harder. Maybe we should decrease the speed of those or start of a bit easier. Or just make them larger?

Also, apparently they updated the steam rpgm with the worthless commands exit game, load game, toggle wait mode, fullscreen and video options.
The video options are kinda neat. But they more or less kick you out of the game. So it's not super professional.
Title: Re: Charas Chain Game 4 Official Thread
Post by: Momeka on October 11, 2015, 07:36:17 AM
I set the missiles life to 1, which made that whole section pretty manageable. I also lowered the life of the larger enemies, but don't remember what I set it to. And I completely cheated on the boss cause I just couldn't beat it.

Also, apparently they updated the steam rpgm with the worthless commands exit game, load game, toggle wait mode, fullscreen and video options.
The video options are kinda neat. But they more or less kick you out of the game. So it's not super professional.

Means you can do your own title screen, which is kinda nice.
Title: Re: Charas Chain Game 4 Official Thread
Post by: DragonBlaze on October 11, 2015, 08:53:11 AM
I intended each level in the space battle system to be challenging, but I wanted each level to be beatable in the first few play throughs as long as you used a decent strategy. Unfortunately since I designed it, I knew exactly what to do, so it will most likely be much more challenging for people who are playing through it the first time. Luckily, all of the enemy stats are set in common event 1036 [generate entity], so you can make enemies weaker and easier to beat. So you can adjust their speed, attack damage, health, attack speed, and pretty much anything. Feel free to make modifications to make the battles easier, as long as they are not TOO easy. Movement patterns and accuracy are bit harder to adjust, but I can walk you through how to adjust those as well.

Increasing the size of the enemies will make them easier to hit, but increasing them by more than a few pixels could have bad side effects... For example, if you make the bounding boxes for the missiles too large, they will collide with each other as soon as they are generated, meaning they will explode instantly, causing the game to be over.. For the other ships, they may be spawned with a collision which will make it impossible for them to move, and if they are generated off screen, that means you will never be able to hit/destroy them.

[spoiler]
Don't adjust the mothership health, it is supposed to be impossible to destroy on your own. Rather once you get it below a certain health point an event will happen and end that level. You can however adjust the turrets' health, damage, and fire rate (set max ticks higher).
[/spoiler]
Title: Re: Charas Chain Game 4 Official Thread
Post by: Prpl_Mage on October 11, 2015, 10:42:22 AM
I set the missiles life to 1, which made that whole section pretty manageable. I also lowered the life of the larger enemies, but don't remember what I set it to. And I completely cheated on the boss cause I just couldn't beat it.
I found that part rather frustrating but then you learn the pattern of the missiles so it is okay. The ship battles were a bit worse though since there was so many waves of enemies and I had to chicken out behind a squarish asteroid to recharge my shields to full. But all those checkpoints made it okay.

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Means you can do your own title screen, which is kinda nice.
Oh that's what it is? Okay, so unchecking that box in "system" makes you jump to "new game" straight away. That's great for more arcade-ish projects. Like my old Panacea thingy. Problem is just that the game lacks an "exit game" key binding. In a usual game pressing F12 returns you to the title screen, but without a title screen you just restart the game and have to manualy close the game or alt+f4.

Speaking of title screens, we really need to make a title screen for our game.

I also made a spreadsheet of errors I encountered.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1aayZd5c0OL_zq6tFWq89-MBnbhkvRZ3ZaTljj-irUUc/edit?usp=sharing
Title: Re: Charas Chain Game 4 Official Thread
Post by: Fisherson on October 11, 2015, 05:09:51 PM
Don't adjust the mothership health, it is supposed to be impossible to destroy on your own. Rather once you get it below a certain health point an event will happen and end that level. You can however adjust the turrets' health, damage, and fire rate (set max ticks higher).

I noticed that when I did my recent save hack and it was just as you fought that sucker. I set it's health to zero and the turrets were still floating in space. XD After  I got them all though it triggered the scene somehow. Took a minute though. Honestly might need a back door for that area till it's time to actually play. I love it but it's like the Tiger Run mini game from the last Chain Game in the fact it takes up the time of makers who don't make back doors all the time like me.

I found that part rather frustrating but then you learn the pattern of the missiles so it is okay. The ship battles were a bit worse though since there was so many waves of enemies and I had to chicken out behind a squarish asteroid to recharge my shields to full. But all those checkpoints made it okay.
Oh that's what it is? Okay, so unchecking that box in "system" makes you jump to "new game" straight away. That's great for more arcade-ish projects. Like my old Panacea thingy. Problem is just that the game lacks an "exit game" key binding. In a usual game pressing F12 returns you to the title screen, but without a title screen you just restart the game and have to manualy close the game or alt+f4.

Speaking of title screens, we really need to make a title screen for our game.

I also made a spreadsheet of errors I encountered.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1aayZd5c0OL_zq6tFWq89-MBnbhkvRZ3ZaTljj-irUUc/edit?usp=sharing

XD Yeah I had that same problem. One little hard to hit ship? Okay that I can- AAAhhhh! Swarm! *Ducks behind an asteriod and watches as their shots can't take it out* "Ooooh so that's there for more than just sceenery and for me to bump into. ^^;" Only thing that saved me on the second level when the mid range X-thingies start comming in  waves was the numder of Asteriods I could hide behind. Though I agree the missiles are only frustrating till you figure out which way to come at them and that shooting head on will get you squat. After that it's only the very last configuration I had to cheat on if I really wanted to.

Title Screen eh? Hmm I could do that between working on art. I mean I've been doing that for the "Games that Never Were" anyway for fun so why not?
Title: Re: Charas Chain Game 4 Official Thread
Post by: Dr. Ace on October 12, 2015, 02:16:59 PM
Just give the thing to me at the end of the chaingame and I'll fix the spelling and dialogue. I've watched with Fred when he played through it, there's a lot that can be improved.
Title: Re: Charas Chain Game 4 Official Thread
Post by: Fisherson on October 12, 2015, 07:30:42 PM
Just give the thing to me at the end of the chaingame and I'll fix the spelling and dialogue. I've watched with Fred when he played through it, there's a lot that can be improved.

Hmm well alright that does sound reasonable, just so long as you don't change all of it. ^^; Some of it is cringe worthy but there's a few times when Juno's foul mouth is deserved from the constant peril of the game. Thank you for your assistance, Doctor.
Title: Re: Charas Chain Game 4 Official Thread
Post by: Dr. Ace on October 13, 2015, 08:22:30 AM
I'll keep the foul mouth, just a bit more classy. Nothing wrong with a character who curses as long as it's not cursing just to be edgy.
Title: Re: Charas Chain Game 4 Official Thread
Post by: Fisherson on October 13, 2015, 07:46:17 PM
I'll keep the foul mouth, just a bit more classy. Nothing wrong with a character who curses as long as it's not cursing just to be edgy.

Sounds alright. Attention Chapter holders. I've finished the doc and am now testing to make sure it can be shared and edited. Done and sending to all involved in a moment. Agh....my aching fingers....
Title: Re: Charas Chain Game 4 Official Thread
Post by: Momeka on October 14, 2015, 07:46:06 AM
I would be willing to do another chapter if there is enough spots left. Would do something much shorter this time around and focus on the characters that's already there.
Title: Re: Charas Chain Game 4 Official Thread
Post by: Fisherson on October 14, 2015, 02:20:23 PM
I would be willing to do another chapter if there is enough spots left. Would do something much shorter this time around and focus on the characters that's already there.

There's a spot left I think. Let me go check the board.  I'm sure chapter 8 is open and we could do 9 as Side Quests space then I can finish at 10. Yep it's open and yours if you want it.
Title: Re: Charas Chain Game 4 Official Thread
Post by: Momeka on October 14, 2015, 04:31:27 PM
There's a spot left I think. Let me go check the board.  I'm sure chapter 8 is open and we could do 9 as Side Quests space then I can finish at 10. Yep it's open and yours if you want it.

Well if Blaze and me do a chapter each we should have covered all the ten slots. I'm okay with what ever spot.
Title: Re: Charas Chain Game 4 Official Thread
Post by: Fisherson on October 15, 2015, 07:17:08 PM
Well if Blaze and me do a chapter each we should have covered all the ten slots. I'm okay with what ever spot.

Hmm then I'd finish it on Chapter 11? I get one more than I wanted but I can't argue witht he fact that more chapters would be nice to flesh out some of this lovely story. ^_^ Sides it'd be a new record for Chain Games.
Title: Re: Charas Chain Game 4 Official Thread
Post by: Momeka on October 15, 2015, 07:35:02 PM
Hmm then I'd finish it on Chapter 11? I get one more than I wanted but I can't argue witht he fact that more chapters would be nice to flesh out some of this lovely story. ^_^ Sides it'd be a new record for Chain Games.

Uhm, no, you'd finish on ten. Me and DB would do chapter 8 and 9.
Title: Re: Charas Chain Game 4 Official Thread
Post by: A Forgotten Legend on October 15, 2015, 09:32:47 PM
lol math.
Title: Re: Charas Chain Game 4 Official Thread
Post by: Dr. Ace on October 16, 2015, 07:13:12 AM
There's nothing math about counting to 10.
Title: Re: Charas Chain Game 4 Official Thread
Post by: Archem on October 16, 2015, 08:12:01 AM
Clearly you've never mathed on a first-grade level.
Title: Re: Charas Chain Game 4 Official Thread
Post by: Fisherson on October 16, 2015, 10:30:45 PM
Well I'll admit I was in error about the number of player made chapters you all are in error because you did not modify your calculations. There ten original chapters planned but I recently spoke of a Side Quest chapters. You therefore must add this to the original count of ten thus getting eleven.

                    - Chapters List -
  1: Fish
   2: Prpl_Mage
   3: MT 11
   4: Dren
  5: DragonBlaze
  6: Momeka
  7: A F  <--- Current L 
  8: Momeka
  9:  DragonBlaze
 10: Side Quests?
 11 Fish
Title: Re: Charas Chain Game 4 Official Thread
Post by: Momeka on October 17, 2015, 06:57:54 AM
They are going to be their own separate chapter? Last time they were just included in the last one.
Title: Re: Charas Chain Game 4 Official Thread
Post by: Prpl_Mage on October 17, 2015, 07:19:27 AM
Yeah I don't really see a point of a sidequest chapter. There is space for sidequests in chapter 2 and 3 with the starmap. All it would take to make another sidequest opportunity would be if any other chapter uses the spacemap as well.
Title: Re: Charas Chain Game 4 Official Thread
Post by: Dr. Ace on October 17, 2015, 08:58:54 AM
I wouldn't do a specific side-quest chapter, rather work them into the other chapters. If at all, because reworking chapters to fit in side-quests sounds like a lot of hassle that doesn't follow the original planning of the chapter creators. I'd say keep them as it is, and focus on fixing bugs and dialogue.
Title: Re: Charas Chain Game 4 Official Thread
Post by: Fisherson on October 18, 2015, 04:37:09 PM
Alright you all have a point. The Star Map Purps made is able to support side quests quite welll since it's similar to the world map layout in Wrath of Gaia. Almost paralel except it's a bit smaller and yet larger seeming XD We can discuss who wants to do what in the Story Doc if you guys like though I get the feeling not all have replied to me sending it out.
Title: Re: Charas Chain Game 4 Official Thread
Post by: Prpl_Mage on October 22, 2015, 05:03:50 AM
Status update?
Title: Re: Charas Chain Game 4 Official Thread
Post by: A Forgotten Legend on October 24, 2015, 03:57:43 PM
Sorry, I've been busy with some school stuff.  I completed the game and I'm still working on assets and maps.  I'm going to spend most of today working on it - but tomorrow I need to spend some time inputting grades for the end of the quarter.
Title: Re: Charas Chain Game 4 Official Thread
Post by: Prpl_Mage on October 25, 2015, 07:31:22 AM
You have to input grades each Quarter? What is the purpose of that?
Title: Re: Charas Chain Game 4 Official Thread
Post by: Dr. Ace on October 25, 2015, 08:00:45 AM
It's actually quite normal Prpl. At my school the courses usually last 9 weeks, ie confined to one of the four quarters of the school-year. Thus, I also have to grade exams and assignments the coming two weeks and then input the grades into the school's system.
Title: Re: Charas Chain Game 4 Official Thread
Post by: Fisherson on October 25, 2015, 11:41:19 PM
It's actually quite normal Prpl. At my school the courses usually last 9 weeks, ie confined to one of the four quarters of the school-year. Thus, I also have to grade exams and assignments the coming two weeks and then input the grades into the school's system.

Sooooo glad to be out of school these days. XD Also sounds good AFL just keep up the good work. ^_^
Title: Re: Charas Chain Game 4 Official Thread
Post by: Prpl_Mage on October 26, 2015, 08:10:55 PM
It's actually quite normal Prpl. At my school the courses usually last 9 weeks, ie confined to one of the four quarters of the school-year. Thus, I also have to grade exams and assignments the coming two weeks and then input the grades into the school's system.

Hmm we only have two havles of the school year. But then our courses usually last the whole year or half a year parallel.

On a completely unrelated note, Resident Evil revelations is like 80% off on the Nintendo store in case anyone doesn't have it. Also capcom on https://humblebundle.com
Title: Re: Charas Chain Game 4 Official Thread
Post by: Moosetroop11 on October 29, 2015, 09:42:54 PM
Just checking in! Anyone want anything like music or resources or anything? The chapters seem to be accounted for.
Title: Re: Charas Chain Game 4 Official Thread
Post by: Prpl_Mage on October 30, 2015, 12:21:30 AM
We could use some spacey battle music and some neat title theme.
Title: Re: Charas Chain Game 4 Official Thread
Post by: Moosetroop11 on October 30, 2015, 04:07:18 PM
Perfect. Space battle as in spaceship battle?
Title: Re: Charas Chain Game 4 Official Thread
Post by: Fisherson on October 30, 2015, 05:20:00 PM
Perfect. Space battle as in spaceship battle?

Oh yeah! Zesh really out did himself on that. It's like what I always wanted to do in Warped but amped up to 11.Bit of Galaga+ Asteriods and ...I don't even know. @-@ It's just awesome but the way you have to do it will test your patience. XD I hope we get an expanded less puzzle-like one in the final chapters or something. Also did you get the story Doc link I sent out?
Title: Re: Charas Chain Game 4 Official Thread
Post by: DragonBlaze on November 03, 2015, 11:21:13 PM
Glad you liked it! Though I need to tweak a lot of settings in those battles to make them less annoying.

So status update? I'll probably get super busy near the end of December all the way through the middle or end of February, so I hope I can get the game at least by early December :p
Title: Re: Charas Chain Game 4 Official Thread
Post by: Momeka on November 04, 2015, 06:26:13 AM
You can go before me if you want.
Title: Re: Charas Chain Game 4 Official Thread
Post by: Fisherson on November 05, 2015, 04:18:19 AM
Okay this title isn't 'final' as in 'the final'. I just called it that because I went through allot of versions of it first: (http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f29/david-n-dent/Title%20Final%20Design_zps8xsuph4r.png) (http://s44.photobucket.com/user/david-n-dent/media/Title%20Final%20Design_zps8xsuph4r.png.html)
Title: Re: Charas Chain Game 4 Official Thread
Post by: Prpl_Mage on November 05, 2015, 06:16:18 AM
The sprites are oddly resized in that one making it look kinda wonky. Especially the ship

Also, it's still spelled "Odyssey"
Title: Re: Charas Chain Game 4 Official Thread
Post by: Fisherson on November 05, 2015, 06:29:36 AM
The sprites are oddly resized in that one making it look kinda wonky. Especially the ship

Yeah the ship wasn't smoothed out like I did Juno. One problem I have is my Game Maker won't re-install on my laptop. =/ I never realized how good it's sprite editer was before I had only Paint and Infranview to work with. ^^; Gonna try smoothing it again tomorrow.
Title: Re: Charas Chain Game 4 Official Thread
Post by: Prpl_Mage on November 09, 2015, 06:32:36 PM
Okay so how is the chapter going? I haven't nagged for some weeks now.
Title: Re: Charas Chain Game 4 Official Thread
Post by: Fisherson on November 09, 2015, 07:00:12 PM
I PMed him for an update not that long ago....but still no response. Getting just a tensy bit worried. ^^; I say we give him a few more days then we unleash the hounds.
Title: Re: Charas Chain Game 4 Official Thread
Post by: drenrin2120 on November 15, 2015, 09:54:28 AM
We're coming upon that time of time where the holiday times descend upon us, and all personal time is sucked into a time-eating vortex of timelessness.

In other words, if we want to finish this before the end of 2016, someone should start spamming AFL.
Title: Re: Charas Chain Game 4 Official Thread
Post by: Prpl_Mage on November 15, 2015, 10:22:36 AM
If we don't hear anything from him by tomorrow it's been a while. So I suppose it's time for DB to take the chapter instead.
Title: Re: Charas Chain Game 4 Official Thread
Post by: drenrin2120 on November 15, 2015, 10:36:48 AM
I say that of course having been the worst offender of time-consumption.
Title: Re: Charas Chain Game 4 Official Thread
Post by: DragonBlaze on November 15, 2015, 10:43:47 AM
So I'm playing through the new Starcraft 2 game. I should finish it in the next couple of days (Tuesday at the latest). I can dedicate all of my time on the chain game at that point if we don't hear anything from AFL.
Title: Re: Charas Chain Game 4 Official Thread
Post by: Fisherson on November 16, 2015, 08:30:07 PM
I warned him you are closing in with deadly dragon menace twice and nothing. I fear he's been kidnapped by Ewoks who are trying to force him to program an analog of them into the game so they can get back at disney for not using them in SW7. =P
Title: Re: Charas Chain Game 4 Official Thread
Post by: DragonBlaze on November 18, 2015, 08:21:33 AM
Just finished SC2, since we didn't hear anything yet I'll download the game and give it a go. It'll still take me a few days to play through the game and refresh my memory on everything that happened, plus the new stuff. I'll let you guys know when I actually start development. If we hear back from AFL before then great, otherwise I hope the Ewoks give him what he deserves.
Title: Re: Charas Chain Game 4 Official Thread
Post by: Fisherson on November 19, 2015, 12:18:24 AM
Just finished SC2, since we didn't hear anything yet I'll download the game and give it a go. It'll still take me a few days to play through the game and refresh my memory on everything that happened, plus the new stuff. I'll let you guys know when I actually start development. If we hear back from AFL before then great, otherwise I hope the Ewoks give him what he deserves.

XD  Very well. Do you need a link to the latest copy? I've got them all in my inbox. Need to star them if I haven't. o.o;
Title: Re: Charas Chain Game 4 Official Thread
Post by: DragonBlaze on November 19, 2015, 06:02:53 AM
I had one from prpl, not sure if the one you had is newer, so I'll just use the one you sent.

First order of business, I learned my lesson last time, so I'm adding a cheat menu that will allow me to do things such as re-enable menu and save the game.
Title: Re: Charas Chain Game 4 Official Thread
Post by: Zoltar on November 19, 2015, 06:12:14 PM
This thing is still going? Gnarly! How close is it to finished?
Title: Re: Charas Chain Game 4 Official Thread
Post by: DragonBlaze on November 19, 2015, 08:59:36 PM
Well I think the current order is me, Momeka, and then Fish will wrap it up. Based on how long it has taken us thus far though, it still won't be done for a while.
Title: Re: Charas Chain Game 4 Official Thread
Post by: Prpl_Mage on November 25, 2015, 10:26:11 PM
So, progress?
Title: Re: Charas Chain Game 4 Official Thread
Post by: DragonBlaze on November 26, 2015, 02:07:47 AM
Oh yeah. I finished playing through the game and I have a plan for what I want to do for chapter 7. The chapter won't be that long, but I want to wrap up a bunch of lose ends and tie things together. So far I've basically been creating the graphics and such needed and a bit of mapping. I hope to finish the assets this weekend (I won't have much time to work on the game though due to Thanksgiving obligations), and then it shouldn't take long to make the chapter.

I'm going to force myself to finish Dec 7th at the very latest. Of course I'll try to finish it as soon as possible though.
Title: Re: Charas Chain Game 4 Official Thread
Post by: Fisherson on November 26, 2015, 05:21:35 AM
Good luck me dragon! Don't wrap up too many threads though! XD I still need a final boss and I've got my sights set on one contender I'd like to wrap the story up with unless something more viable pops up between now and the end. Also smarter to make your stories short but sweet, keep up the good and smart work, Zesh. ^_-
Title: Re: Charas Chain Game 4 Official Thread
Post by: Zesher on November 26, 2015, 09:26:43 AM
So quickly, I created a new profile with the name Zesher. I created DragonBlaze as a kid, and to be honest I'm not too fond of the name anymore.

Fish, I sent you a PM (with my old profile). If you have a good plan for a certain story arc, there's a good chance that I can substitute certain characters with my current plan and change the planned cut scenes to other characters. My main goal was to tie things together and set the stage for an ending, so if you have good ideas on how to bring closure to some elements, I'll focus on other elements.
Title: Re: Charas Chain Game 4 Official Thread
Post by: Prpl_Mage on November 26, 2015, 10:52:17 PM
You know that I could simply edit your profile name right?
Title: Re: Charas Chain Game 4 Official Thread
Post by: Fisherson on December 01, 2015, 07:18:20 PM
Okay let's see if this title is a little better since it actually has a Odyssey spelled right....wait......DANGIT! Forgot the fracking "y"........Ah well tell me if you like th enew layout anyway! XO
(http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f29/david-n-dent/Junos%20Title%204_zpsf35rhf08.png) (http://s44.photobucket.com/user/david-n-dent/media/Junos%20Title%204_zpsf35rhf08.png.html)
Title: Re: Charas Chain Game 4 Official Thread
Post by: Zesher on December 02, 2015, 02:58:32 AM
You know that I could simply edit your profile name right?

O.o No I did not know that. Why isn't that an option in the profile? None the less it doesn't matter too much, all I lost was my post count which I could care less about. Though if you could get rid of this damn painful verification process as I'm posting, that'd be great.


Okay let's see if this title is a little better since it actually has a Odyssey spelled right....wait......DANGIT! Forgot the fracking "y"........Ah well tell me if you like th enew layout anyway! XO
(http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f29/david-n-dent/Junos%20Title%204_zpsf35rhf08.png) (http://s44.photobucket.com/user/david-n-dent/media/Junos%20Title%204_zpsf35rhf08.png.html)

I think Juno and the ship look fine in this one, I'm just not a huge fan of that font..
Title: Re: Charas Chain Game 4 Official Thread
Post by: Fisherson on December 02, 2015, 04:19:54 AM
Ahh well I did get some new ones in. I can try replacing it....though I did make that by hand. T_T
Title: Re: Charas Chain Game 4 Official Thread
Post by: Zesher on December 02, 2015, 08:44:55 PM
Actually, let me try it out in the game when i get home. It seems like it may be best if the ship and title are moved up. Does it look alright with the menu obstructing the ship?
Title: Re: Charas Chain Game 4 Official Thread
Post by: Fisherson on December 03, 2015, 04:31:41 AM
Actually, let me try it out in the game when i get home. It seems like it may be best if the ship and title are moved up. Does it look alright with the menu obstructing the ship?

It used to work well...and the ship was closer to the top. XD Darnit! Maybe I should have a trail near Juno with the ship dooing a barrel roll-type move in the background. Ahh for Dyn's custom title screen! X3 If only ye worked with the Steam version. Hmm there is a in game script one can write though so that the menu box vanishes....But it may just be easier to do it your way.
Title: Re: Charas Chain Game 4 Official Thread
Post by: Momeka on December 03, 2015, 07:46:59 AM
Z, did you manage to figure out the puzzle at the end of chapter 7 or did you cheat as well? Trying to figure out if my hint is too vauge.
Title: Re: Charas Chain Game 4 Official Thread
Post by: Zesher on December 03, 2015, 06:18:48 PM
It used to work well...and the ship was closer to the top. XD Darnit! Maybe I should have a trail near Juno with the ship dooing a barrel roll-type move in the background. Ahh for Dyn's custom title screen! X3 If only ye worked with the Steam version. Hmm there is a in game script one can write though so that the menu box vanishes....But it may just be easier to do it your way.

I am using the steam version :p  I guess I did read in update notes that they did something with the menu. I haven't tried playing with it yet and so I don't know how to enable it. :(

Z, did you manage to figure out the puzzle at the end of chapter 7 or did you cheat as well? Trying to figure out if my hint is too vauge.

You mean with the passcode and tiles? Yeah I figured it out without cheating, the connection was fairly obvious. But I only realize now that you mention it that there was a hint.

Annd quick update, progress is going slow due to a lack of time, but progress is being made none the less. My chapter will probably end up being very short, but the way it is set up I can still wrap the chapter up rather nicely without having the next person dropped off in the middle of something.

EDIT: OH MY GOD THIS CAPCHA IS SO FREAKING ANNOYING
Title: Re: Charas Chain Game 4 Official Thread
Post by: Prpl_Mage on December 03, 2015, 07:40:49 PM

EDIT: OH MY GOD THIS CAPCHA IS SO FREAKING ANNOYING

It's only medium, we used to have "very hard"
Title: Re: Charas Chain Game 4 Official Thread
Post by: Zesher on December 03, 2015, 08:46:35 PM
It's only medium, we used to have "very hard"

If answering 7 security questions every post/edit is medium.. what was very hard?

Okay it seems to have gone away now, all is good again.
Title: Re: Charas Chain Game 4 Official Thread
Post by: drenrin2120 on December 04, 2015, 07:36:34 AM
Gonna interject. If yall still need space battley music and such and if moose hasnt already done it I shall produce.
Title: Re: Charas Chain Game 4 Official Thread
Post by: Momeka on December 04, 2015, 06:36:12 PM
You mean with the passcode and tiles? Yeah I figured it out without cheating, the connection was fairly obvious. But I only realize now that you mention it that there was a hint.

Good, was afraid it was all too vague when Fish told me he had to cheat his way though.
Title: Re: Charas Chain Game 4 Official Thread
Post by: Fisherson on December 06, 2015, 01:00:25 AM
Good, was afraid it was all too vague when Fish told me he had to cheat his way though.

To be fair I had to cheat my way through because I'm slightly bad at puzzles. ^^; I mean I'm okay at making them but solving them isn't always my strong suit.

Gonna interject. If yall still need space battley music and such and if moose hasnt already done it I shall produce.

If you do try and make something that suits the "BOOM" before battle. That's one reason I used that Nightwish Miidi conversion. Dead to the World I think it was? It cranks out in perfect sync with the thunder strike sound and I feel sorta has a nice sync to both.
Title: Re: Charas Chain Game 4 Official Thread
Post by: Momeka on December 08, 2015, 05:49:44 PM
To be fair I had to cheat my way through because I'm slightly bad at puzzles. ^^; I mean I'm okay at making them but solving them isn't always my strong suit.

Yeah, no worries. Probably going to add a small counter to see how long people have wandered around in that area and drop more hints if they wander to much.

Also I'm probably going to have to drop chapter 9 unless I can do it in January cause I won't have time before Christmas. Sorry :/
Title: Re: Charas Chain Game 4 Official Thread
Post by: Prpl_Mage on December 13, 2015, 06:07:04 PM
So progress?
Title: Re: Charas Chain Game 4 Official Thread
Post by: Fisherson on December 14, 2015, 04:05:43 AM
They usually say not to poke the dragon but I do have to admit I would like a update too Zesh and now that you've lost you rank....GET TO IT N00B 8O

XD Sorry couldn't resist.
Title: Re: Charas Chain Game 4 Official Thread
Post by: Zesher on December 15, 2015, 05:21:01 AM
*sigh*

So I was stranded the last five days at my parents' house with no internet. Then my manager was being a dbag and told a client we would deliver our product to them in December when we planned for it to be complete in late February or March. Long story short, I don't have the time to work on the game for a while. Rather than keeping it and not knowing when I'll have time to work on it, someone else can take it. I uploaded an updated version of the game with balance fixes to the space combat system, a cheat system to re-enable the menu, saving, etc, and several new ship graphics that I intended to use in some cut scenes.
Title: Re: Charas Chain Game 4 Official Thread
Post by: Fisherson on December 15, 2015, 06:07:46 AM
*sigh*

So I was stranded the last five days at my parents' house with no internet. Then my manager was being a dbag and told a client we would deliver our product to them in December when we planned for it to be complete in late February or March. Long story short, I don't have the time to work on the game for a while. Rather than keeping it and not knowing when I'll have time to work on it, someone else can take it. I uploaded an updated version of the game with balance fixes to the space combat system, a cheat system to re-enable the menu, saving, etc, and several new ship graphics that I intended to use in some cut scenes.

Gee! This chapter has been so bounced around it's crazy! O.o If I wasn't doing the and and crazily obessed with using my remaining 16 days of MV's Trial to make a game? I'd take it. For now I suppose next guy on the list? And if he gets eaten by this chapter I dub thee author killer and I shall slay the beast.
Title: Re: Charas Chain Game 4 Official Thread
Post by: Momeka on December 17, 2015, 06:24:51 PM
You're the next guy on the list, Fish.
Title: Re: Charas Chain Game 4 Official Thread
Post by: Fisherson on December 17, 2015, 10:05:29 PM
Oh yeah I guess I am. XD Dang! I wanted to finish my last fourteen days of my MV trial. =( I actualy almost have a game made re-made from that. Siiiiiigh....Alright I suppose I'll bite the bullet.I might know a way to trick these new "Internal Clock Timer" based trial downloads anyway. I don't even really need to replay since i pretty much remember how the story was going. Besides this means I won't have to worry about some guy adding too much to the next to the last Chapter for me to have to sort by the end. X3 Whahahahaha! Plus I'm more a Grinch than a Santa around this time of the year so no XMas problems...Hmm but I do need to finish getting the stove room ready so I don't freeze to death. Literally. Alright! I'm doing it. Let me go fix the Chapter line up.
Title: Re: Charas Chain Game 4 Official Thread
Post by: Momeka on December 18, 2015, 06:56:49 PM
Well if you want some more time with MV I can do some bug fixes to chapter 6 over this weekend. But I will need the link to the game in that case.
Title: Re: Charas Chain Game 4 Official Thread
Post by: Fisherson on December 18, 2015, 08:28:54 PM
Well if you want some more time with MV I can do some bug fixes to chapter 6 over this weekend. But I will need the link to the game in that case.

Nah it's okay. Must be fate cause I was playing with the plug-ins and some how broke the game I was working on. =/ No point now. Though I will give it to you for some bug fixes when I'm done with Chapter 7. I'm just running two scenerios and trying to refamiliarize myself with the Jewel's Map. Don't want to unbalance anything after all. Oh I also finished Rool a weapon in. It was getting embarassing seeing him with that Sith Saber. As for what it is....Well I'll let you see during the bug fixes. XD If you liked TNG then you'll like the weapon. Oh while I'm at it a idea occured to me to make Rool's shapechanges based on each of the people who worked on the game. PM me your ideas or leave them on the Story Doc which I suppose I should update? Right now I'm trying not to freeze to death while I try out this first scenerio XD Ah reminds me, Red. When you get time could you make me a bigger sprite of Wodan for a monster? I mean I could do it but you are his creator after all. Oh if Dren or Doctor Ace-In-The-Hole are watching? Where be my music to sample? <.< Gonna give ya two days then if I'm not a Fishsicle by then I'll spam your PM boxes. >=D
Title: Re: Charas Chain Game 4 Official Thread
Post by: Momeka on December 18, 2015, 10:51:40 PM
Ah reminds me, Red. When you get time could you make me a bigger sprite of Wodan for a monster?

I'm not that great at making large scale humans, but I can give it a try.
Title: Re: Charas Chain Game 4 Official Thread
Post by: Fisherson on December 20, 2015, 01:06:53 AM
I'm not that great at making large scale humans, but I can give it a try.

Thank you, Red. ^_^ I appreciate it. Okay got my scenerio down for the seventh Chapter but I'm curious does anyone really want to sign back up for chapters or should I just do some sidequests then push on to the final chapter? I mean it's not going to be done this year, frack it we just got too slowed down by Holidays and the sheer volume of stuff in our personal lives I imagine, so don't worry about that. But that's not so bad. No pressure with no deadline after all. The last one took the whole of a year to make and to be fair? It still has bugs from where we rushed it. =/ If we wait till after the Holidays some of us will be around more and can add additional content so that people who got skipped over, AFL and Zesh, will be compensated and we'll get more playtime. Doesn't mean we can't release the game as a compact version right away. Just means we'd go back and add some stuff and smooth some edges off so it actually all works and I don't go back and get stuck in a underground maze cause somebody missed a fatal error. T-T Oh and if nobody takes another chapter than any ideas for the last character of the nine or should I just erase the slot? Cause I used two more.
Title: Re: Charas Chain Game 4 Official Thread
Post by: Prpl_Mage on December 20, 2015, 08:48:19 AM
Nah, I don't need another chapter. I feel like we're pretty done
Title: Re: Charas Chain Game 4 Official Thread
Post by: Zoltar on December 20, 2015, 07:13:18 PM
The public says.... Release the game or we ready the Tomato Catapults manned by the cats from HOME!   :D
Title: Re: Charas Chain Game 4 Official Thread
Post by: Moosetroop11 on December 21, 2015, 09:55:30 PM
*Blusters in*

Hello everyone I'm back! So if we're talking about getting the game released, does that mean we have an ending?!?
Title: Re: Charas Chain Game 4 Official Thread
Post by: Fisherson on December 21, 2015, 11:43:29 PM
*Blusters in*

Hello everyone I'm back! So if we're talking about getting the game released, does that mean we have an ending?!?

Indeed I have it pretty much written down. Just working on the next to last Chapter which is dedicated to adding some missing backstory to our current cast, unlocking the last two and then moving on to confronting the big bad. It'll be pretty brief, just a few side quests which I'll do for every character but you can always go back and add some if you want Moose say for Rool or Darone? Oh don't worry about touching up either of their battle sets. I touched up Roll quite nicely and Darone will be next once I get this Dungeon more scripted.
Title: Re: Charas Chain Game 4 Official Thread
Post by: Fisherson on December 28, 2015, 09:08:19 PM
Okay time for a progress report:
Extra Character slot solved pretty much. The last one is an optional that can only be unlocked by doing something in earlier chapter. Added a Organizer who can help you keep up with your side quests. Improved Darone and Rool's battlers including actually gave him a real weapon. XD Only so much of that sith saber I could take. Balanced some skill sets to be fairer. Added two forms to Rool's "Shapless" command. Need to do the tutorial on how to use that next. Let's see...Oh added a few in between weapons and working on a varible system so that shop's selections vary depending on what chapter you're on since the power ratio to enemy defense was ....a bit lacking. ^^; Chapter 7 is almost done. I got about 6 of 12 rooms done then it's just one brief story area and a puzzle to finish off since there was too many battles in the first half of that chapter a I feel. ^^;; I'm terrible to do that in Chain Games anyway after that Chapter 8 is just Side Quests and free roam till you find the one map that will open the final dungeon so to speak and finally I'll be able to program the final boss, which won't be too hard since I got my notes and Red is working on the sprite for that. Speaking of missing resources, Dr Ace? Where be my sci-fi battle themes? o.O Anywho once more into the breach and back to work. See ya'll latter for the Avy contest and second part of the Resource Contest.
Title: Re: Charas Chain Game 4 Official Thread
Post by: Zoltar on December 30, 2015, 02:26:02 PM
Oh wow. That sounds like allot of work, Fishman! Any mondo tubular release date though? You are making us mondo eager to play, brah.
Title: Re: Charas Chain Game 4 Official Thread
Post by: Dr. Ace on December 30, 2015, 05:58:34 PM
You keep saying like I was supposed to make music for you but I don't remember saying I would.
Title: Re: Charas Chain Game 4 Official Thread
Post by: Fisherson on December 31, 2015, 05:21:47 AM
I thought you said you would a couple of pages back....or did I imagine it? Ah either way I guess it doesn't matter. I got a few themes to use. Really only need a final boss theme I'm sure these ones I got will work well. ^_^; You are released. Go forth and do good I suppose.
Title: Re: Charas Chain Game 4 Official Thread
Post by: Prpl_Mage on December 31, 2015, 09:25:58 AM
I thought you said you would a couple of pages back....or did I imagine it? Ah either way I guess it doesn't matter. I got a few themes to use. Really only need a final boss theme I'm sure these ones I got will work well. ^_^; You are released. Go forth and do good I suppose.

I think it was moose?
Title: Re: Charas Chain Game 4 Official Thread
Post by: Moosetroop11 on December 31, 2015, 01:21:34 PM
Not only did I make that sci-fi battle theme, I sent it to prpl ages ago thinking he was in charge of the project! Do you want me to send it to you Fish? It just felt a lot easier sending it to prpl over skype
Title: Re: Charas Chain Game 4 Official Thread
Post by: Prpl_Mage on January 01, 2016, 09:27:47 AM
I sent it to prpl ages ago

Oh right, **** I forgot

Hmm, can't find it and new skype is messing everything up
Title: Re: Charas Chain Game 4 Official Thread
Post by: Fisherson on January 04, 2016, 12:49:26 AM
XD Alright I suppose we can keep using the current battle theme. I do rather like it anyway. =P Time for another progress report:

Chapter 7-
Rooms in dungeon done: 11/12
Bosses finished  0/1    <-<; Yeah I know, I know. It's complicated though. Had to test a system before I could try it.
Chests left to make: 1.
Totall progress: 91% I'd estimate. Hopping to be done by tomorrow cause I'll be able to be online and uninterrupted for hours and I'm not going to be freting as much over my final boss prep as I think I got it once I get some sprites and can test it. I also coded most of the final weapons and armor you can get. Not going for one unique set per character as I kinda tried to do in the past ^^; But none are likely gonna be buyable and will require a bit of research to find. Just the way I roll nowadays. Also debating making the ending of the finall boss be puzzle based since most of the game, as Purps pointed out to me on Skype the other day, is. Thoughts?
Title: Re: Charas Chain Game 4 Official Thread
Post by: Dr. Ace on January 04, 2016, 12:31:36 PM
Or you contact Moose to get the song he made.
Title: Re: Charas Chain Game 4 Official Thread
Post by: Moosetroop11 on January 05, 2016, 06:34:53 PM
Gave it to Prpl again, though now I know it's meant to be the main battle theme I'm not so keen on it... I guess I thought it was going to be for a more infrequent thing like a spaceship battle. See how you like it anyway, I'll make another if you think it should be different.


I tried to work the spaceship's theme into the beginning but it doesn't really show all that much.
Title: Re: Charas Chain Game 4 Official Thread
Post by: Fisherson on January 06, 2016, 02:05:29 AM
Gave it to Prpl again, though now I know it's meant to be the main battle theme I'm not so keen on it... I guess I thought it was going to be for a more infrequent thing like a spaceship battle. See how you like it anyway, I'll make another if you think it should be different.


I tried to work the spaceship's theme into the beginning but it doesn't really show all that much.

Oohh it was for the ship? Didn't know that! XD Ah well I kinda like the ship's idle theme myself personally. Still music can't hurt. Need something for the credits anyway since i used an awesome Midi from F-Zero I was saving for it. >-<; I just couldn't help it though! It suited the title screen better than any theme I'd heard. Quick progress report: One room to end Chapter 7 and one cut scene. I may re-play it fairly though and make sure it's balanced since I have hard time with balancing stats and not making my boss battles insanely hard. Though for the next to last chapter...shouldn't it be? o.o Hmm have to think on that. Still I think I want it so you can't beat it till you at least in the 30's or higher since it's so close to the end and this one hasn't been battle heavy much.
Title: Re: Charas Chain Game 4 Official Thread
Post by: Fisherson on January 16, 2016, 08:04:38 PM
Chapter 7 done and now on to eight which ties the story together and opens the path to the last boss and all then I get to make a unique credits screen! Whoo hoo....*Falls over from stress* Ugh...If i can last that long! XD Estimated release date: End of this month if all goes according to plan and I don't find anymore bugs. Like the one on Kratas where if you land after you've beated it the game goes into endless cut scene loop..... - -;; Also thinking of cutting the the last unlockable character. Not sure the story can support it and ,as much as I love FF6, I don't want this to have characters you can unlock just for kicks with no backstory. We'll see but I'm leaning towards it heavily. Balanced skills sets for all characters so far but the next to last. Will do that after lunch and some Flash maybe. Now I might call on your guys for some resources. I mean I'm using a TERRIBLE FF1 Edit for the Final Boss's first form XD I'd do it myself but I want to get started on Chapter 8 today and that means writing, codding, checking, bugs appearing for no reason, more writing, scribbling out writing cause it just hit I could do that cut scene better....ect.
Title: Re: Charas Chain Game 4 Official Thread
Post by: Zoltar on January 17, 2016, 04:50:46 PM
The tension is killing me, bra!  Quit being so melodramatic and ride that glassy curl till the end!
Title: Re: Charas Chain Game 4 Official Thread
Post by: Moosetroop11 on January 21, 2016, 10:28:11 PM
Why exactly are you making two chapters Fish? Did no-one else want to come along and finish it? It seems odd to randomly do two.

Not that I should start judging when you're so far through, and when I really don't have time to do it myself...
Title: Re: Charas Chain Game 4 Official Thread
Post by: Fisherson on January 22, 2016, 12:56:14 AM
Why exactly are you making two chapters Fish? Did no-one else want to come along and finish it? It seems odd to randomly do two.

Not that I should start judging when you're so far through, and when I really don't have time to do it myself...

Well tradition is usually the guy who starts it finishes it. Sides why not? There weren't that many interested in finishing the game anyway right? All those loose plot threads. @_@ Still gotta love that it HAS A PLOT. Seriously one big weakness of many Chain Games int he past has been loose to no plot till the end where it feels sort mashed up and half baked. Fun but still sorta unprofessional. ^^; Hm I suppose since I'm here I may as well update:

Chapter 7: Nearly bug free. A few cut scenes that could be stronger but eh I like it as is. I gotta add the little chapter barrier though that won't allow you to start Chapter 7 all over again by going in he dungeon there but honestly it's probably the most bug free zone in the game. Gonna do a check of the dialogue though. I always miss ONE typo no matter how hard I try. ToT

Chapter 8: 20%. This one's trickier as it finishes out the first part of the story then leads up to that moment where you're all like "Oh drat. I know I shouldn't have saved at that final castle save point AFTER the door to the outside closed forever." As for the final dungeon? I got the map sprite done but the interior isn't going to be too fancy. At most I may put a teleport maze as the final obstacle or something simple enough. Did test the final boss though. Killed me the first time when I had minimum weapons and armor.  < <;; Did a little re-tweaking and toned his AI to be smarter and just now he almost got me but I was able to make it with ALLOT of healing items and some clever strategy. Should note I was using a less than balanced party. Mostly a ATK heavy and AGL heavy team so I'm gonna try that with Neza and some more supportive characters too. I also got the mid-battle boss morph thing to work pretty well! It sorta triggers randomly though so I might play with that a bit and see if we can't get it to trigger in a more normal pattern....though honestly might add an edge to the boss' strategy.

Side Quests: 1% XD Yeah don't let that number fool you. There's one for every character but the ones unlockable after Chapter 7 planned so that's like six stories or so. Should note: They don't work like Wrath of Gaia's where you go along and beat to get exrtra powers. Some reward you with new powers some master level weapons and some nothing if you don't do it right. Little more challenging than the previous game.

Release Date: Still sometime this month I'm confident. My new house sittign gig gives me plenty of time to enjoy my hobbies and do this and there's no good movies around much so really it's just my day to day stuff that's dragging me away from the game. Okay till next check in then or next time Charas has a interesting topic I just can't resist blabbing in. ^_- *Dons armored space suit and ignites saber running madly at the Chain Game chopping and hacking creatively*
Title: Re: Charas Chain Game 4 Official Thread
Post by: Fisherson on January 26, 2016, 01:05:53 AM
There's a hiccup. The navigation has a big bug that fatally kills the game. Gonna have to strip it and rebuild it Moose. ^^; Ofcourse I may have had to to include more crew slots anyway but honestly this isn't a small thing and worst yet I don't know why it's doing it. =/ Other than that everything's going along swimmingly. Got the Final Boss programed. Finito. Seriously fun to program to be a smarter kind of final boss and not spam you to death....though it does seem to do that now and again particularly after healing itself. o.o; I may have made it a little too smart. We'll see. Got the last coupel of battle BGs done except for the final background cause I can't decide on a dungeon for the final area. >-<;; So many of the good ones have been taken. Gonna try really old stuff I have lying around. Side Quests are not ready yet. I'm saving them till the last three maps are finished which shouldn't take lone. The one i'm working on is three rooms of eight done and the next one uses a dungeon already made so really it's just the last area that needs to be fully mapped and I'll do it when I find the right tileset.
Title: Re: Charas Chain Game 4 Official Thread
Post by: Prpl_Mage on January 26, 2016, 07:58:22 AM
Sounds like you have a few plans too many going on. Focus on the important stuff for now.
Title: Re: Charas Chain Game 4 Official Thread
Post by: Fisherson on January 26, 2016, 06:09:26 PM
Sounds like you have a few plans too many going on. Focus on the important stuff for now.

Alright I'll try. Though I think I figured out how to fix the nav system. I'll try it after I'm done with this level. Speaking of Rooms 4 of eight down. Boss for this level totally programmed. ^_^ Slowly but steadily getting it. still keeping my estimate of pushing the game back to early next month for a release date cause of that fatal error though.
Title: Re: Charas Chain Game 4 Official Thread
Post by: Prpl_Mage on February 15, 2016, 06:19:18 AM
So three weeks later and we are in the early new month. How is the progress?
Title: Re: Charas Chain Game 4 Official Thread
Post by: Moosetroop11 on February 16, 2016, 12:24:01 AM
Also checking in to say I'm still alive and interested in how this is going.
Title: Re: Charas Chain Game 4 Official Thread
Post by: Fisherson on February 18, 2016, 04:56:08 AM
So three weeks later and we are in the early new month. How is the progress?

Believe it or not? Fairly dang good. I mean I almost rang you up on Skype and said "Take this hideous thing from my sight!!" but that night before bed I had a thought: if plot threads and thus potential cutscenes were the problem why not use a game plan by drawing it out on my notebook using humorous characters? Welp I did and guess what? It worked! I suddenly knew exactly how the last pieces fit into place and felt a surge of energy. The Bright Side flowing through my veins, as well as caffine, I went to setting it up into three sections:

1st: Deal with Perses +Open Side Quests
2nd Introduce the final boss to the heroine, that's sort of important after all.
3rd Show the true menace and prepare for the FINAL BATTLE!
End Cutscenes of humorous and deep nature
Shocking twist?
Credits.
BOOM done.

Here's a progress report on that by the way:

1st Part 99%
(Wanna check my cutscene one more time and make sure I didn't miss a line. I sorta blazed through it)
2nd Part 70%
(Just paused on that to bug check the playing bit of that. Gonna finish it tomorrow.)
3rd Part: 10%
(Got my chipset, gonna map it tomorrow and make sure it works 100%. Got the Boss's forms programmed just gotta plug them into the cutscenes, which won't be as long as these last two since there's less story to tie and more DIE MONSTER! )
Side Quests: 15%
(Before you get worried about that these side quests are short. Only two require actually leaving the world in question to complete. Three are for extra skills which make certain low hit power characters, like Ixion, more balaced and on a few part of it is to get you Master Level Weapon...if you can find it. X3 He he he! So don't sweat it. They are quick and mostly just fun areas that give you a little more time with your party and reward your efforts. I will tell you this however: completing them may change the order of events at the end of the game. <.< Not saying any more than that.)

-Misc Stuff to fix that's not mine-
Moose's Nav Com glitches and Krathas.
(Actually I made progress on this. Moose, this is important...*Grabs your horns and shakes you about* When you make a teleport link that is to stay on a word map, or galaxy map in this case, you MUST CODE A UPDATE to keep it from replaying the event! That's what's been killing me with Krathas. Even after you do it? It thinks it's day one all over again! Now the Nav Comp is tied into this believe it or not! Your Panorama refresh was causing redundant cut scenes. Don't ask me how! I just fixed it...I think. Gotta do a test which I'm likely gonna have to put a back door in to bypass Purps' chapter to do in a timely manner. ^_^; I love it but it takes a while to do even with cheating items.

-Character Balancing-
Though I had this whooped but then I went to start a new test play to make sure I'd fixed some bugs and guess what? Juno learned a 500 hit damage move at only level 11-15 - -;; Just re-tooled her to be more balanced. Speaking of her I got a cool thing for her helmeted version so it can appear in battle now. I also tonned down Ixion's speed to develop a bit more normally...he was getting to like four turns to every one boss turn at like level 60-70. ^^;; Made it hard to tell if the boss was being balanced fairly. I don't think anyone else needs any balacing. Veneza needs one skill taken away cause it doesn't work for both her and a monster I made so I'll just delete that but honestly I like everyone's stats and skills where they are. ^_^ It's a good party with lots of variety just like in WOG but with more playables.

Also Rool's forms in battle seemed to be  puzzle. Hadn't played with actual shape shifters before, but who hasn't thought of it? So I tried using multiple extra Rools with like high Atk stats or high MP but that complicated leveling them and Rool's actual form up. XD So I just tied each of his forms into a specific support or battle skill. I was gonna make a sidequest for you to get them but decided against it and just made it mostly in the higher levels that he'll learn them. His weapon is 100% sorted too. Took a bit on what to do since whoever created him left no instructions or hints on that. <.< But I got one. It's less attack power though even at it's highest level to make up for his Form Changes. Last character note: There won't be a ninth character. I wanted to use the awesome little character I made as I got the game but honestly it'd take too much time to work out a proper story. Maybe one day I'll make a "Platinum" version like I plan to do with Wrath of Gaia latter this month if I get this done. Though honestly I'd love to do a Juno's Odyssey Part 2: The Dim Side Awakens XD Or something. *Shrugs*

Anything else...? Hmm....Trying to think....Oh crap one thing that crippled me and i have no control over! My battle test on my Steam Maker is dead. It says "File could not be created" or some such non sense. Wait I'll show it ya hold on. Bah I hate dial up! I would use my phone to use my photobucket but I'm low on data...Sigh. Guess we'll try DA:
http://sta.sh/0unf6mu8upa

Can soembody please help? It makes it so I can't test play anything on the map and it's not just this file it's in the maker. -  -; I tried it on CGA.
Title: Re: Charas Chain Game 4 Official Thread
Post by: Zoltar on February 18, 2016, 01:59:27 PM
Sounds like you're doing a mondo awesome job, brohiem! Just don't get too over ambitious and wipeout, kay? We all wanna ride this gnarly breaker.  Oh and that error looks mondo nasty!!  :o But the Big Z doesn't know how to fix it. Sorry. :(
Title: Re: Charas Chain Game 4 Official Thread
Post by: Fisherson on February 22, 2016, 01:23:25 AM
Update time again!! Mostly good news this time.

Misc Stuff:
Side Quests: 38% Just added three percent doing a SW parody scene XD Oh that felt good.

1st Part 1: 100%
(Awesomely done. Got all the events working and even tweaked the dialogue and I'm gonna resist doing it again..)
2nd Part: 100%
(Everything is playable. One glitch but it's minor and I'm gonna clean it up after the game is done.)
3rd Part: 40%
(Working on the cut scenes leading up to the final dungeon. Just gotta re-tool the first area to help with that. Not much too it. Then finally I can plugin the last scenes and do THE FINAL BATTLE)
End of Game Stuff:
Endings? Written. Just gotta actually make them into cutscenes. I...Might do a picture type system for that. We'll see.
Credits. X3 He he he he! Believe it or not? This is in the bag. Gonna do something simple but me-ish. =p Probably write them tonight.

Onto the play test and all the fun stuff it revealed for far: MOOOOOOOSE!....Yer off the hook for Krathas! ^_- I fixed the sucker. Now on to Morros which you may not know? But your event on Moros which takes us to the BANE scene? Yeaaah it also didn't understand it wasn't supposed to do this all the time. -.-; Don't worry it's a simple patch with the Krathas Code, totally should be a book name, and won't even take a second. Oh and the Inn stops working but I'm gonna leave it broken if you want? Cause it's not much more  important past Nathan's Flight. Sound good?

Dren....Dren my man! Your chapter, and I'm not even through it all yet, contains 4 bugs. A  minor one: a shop has two items that are basically the same, no big deal I do that all the time, and some medium level such as Juno not addressing her crew "positions" and just using their names no matter the position and thus looking at the wrong people when speaking. You didn't make an event to "helmet" Juno when stepping out onto the asteriod's surface and the prison had no background. Fortunately I can fix most of this...sor far. <.< I just hope that there are no more, Mister Dren.

Haven't got to five but I know the only thing I didn't like is the missiel mini game lags on my computer now, but eh that's nothing terrible.

Okay well that's all for now. Wish me luck and energy...I'm almost there. I shall finish this game and you will all call me Fisherson "The Finisher"....No you will do this. This is non-negotiable! The Fish demands it!! XO
Title: Re: Charas Chain Game 4 Official Thread
Post by: Zoltar on February 22, 2016, 07:18:33 PM
Sounds like you're making mondo progress, Fishman. The Big Z wishes you much luck and energy in the last steps! :D Get 'er done, Brohiem!
Title: Re: Charas Chain Game 4 Official Thread
Post by: Moosetroop11 on February 22, 2016, 08:52:40 PM
My apologies for any bugs created >_> It's been so long I don't even remember what I specifically did there but thanks for fixing it.
Title: Re: Charas Chain Game 4 Official Thread
Post by: Fisherson on February 26, 2016, 08:44:04 PM
Last.....freaking.....scene......dying......fainting.....need.....life....

XD Nah just kidding! I am down to the last cut scene and running out of energy but Undertale is helping me through this....when not making me want to smash the puny laptop. >-<;;; Alas even if I get it done there's...allot of bugs! @-@ May have to finish up the story bits and make sure the main part runs enough and hand it off to one of you to bug check if we wanna release this month.

1st Part 1: 100%
2nd Part: 100%
3rd Part :60% (Needs the last part of the cut scene done and to be plugged into the final boss battle.)

Side Quests:
Monodoran (90%)
Ixion (40%)
Bandit: (1% may skip this till later XD)
Juno (60% just gotta add the last part)
Bonus Character (Probably won't do this but 10%)

Credits 1000%~! Man those were fun to do! ^_^
End Cutscenes (Gotta put them INTO RPG maker. - -; Having them on paper counts as only 1% )
Title: Re: Charas Chain Game 4 Official Thread
Post by: Prpl_Mage on February 28, 2016, 12:28:00 PM
Well done, just cut those sidestories short where they are now and focus on finishing the last part instead.

I kinda want to play this
Title: Re: Charas Chain Game 4 Official Thread
Post by: Zoltar on February 28, 2016, 04:47:17 PM
Stay determined Mondo awesome dude! You can do it. Just do what the purple brah said! No more side quests. Just finish the game and then you can focus on those dibbly bits AFTER everything else is done! Don't let us down....or we'll all feed you to the sharks.  :heart:
Title: Re: Charas Chain Game 4 Official Thread
Post by: Fisherson on March 02, 2016, 05:56:12 AM
Stay determined Mondo awesome dude! You can do it. Just do what the purple brah said! No more side quests. Just finish the game and then you can focus on those dibbly bits AFTER everything else is done! Don't let us down....or we'll all feed you to the sharks.  :heart:

>.> How'd you know I just spent four days playing Undertale off and on as a break from the Chain Game? *Makes a note of Zolty being a clairvoyant/stalker*

Anywho hopefully next to last update. I'm 98% done with the last part of the game. Just writing in the endings which I only need like two more and the bonus humor image. Then the sidequest are cake. Did the formulas for them as I coded the final boss which works out pretty well but I'm not sure I like the rushed feeling one gets trying to get there. I need to add the monsters to that area but then again maybe I'll skip them. You may want to kill me but Chapter 7 has a minor need of editing in a cut scene though. Just a minor bit but it'll look stupid when it contrasts with game play if I don't at least cut part of it.

Title: Re: Charas Chain Game 4 Official Thread
Post by: Moosetroop11 on March 04, 2016, 11:05:33 PM
What with some endings, some sidequests, and some extras, it seems like 70% done rather than 95% done... : p
Title: Re: Charas Chain Game 4 Official Thread
Post by: Fisherson on March 07, 2016, 03:26:33 AM
What with some endings, some sidequests, and some extras, it seems like 70% done rather than 95% done... : p

I know. T__T I'm awful at math. Hard to believe with the way I code but I am! Ugh speaking of coding...progress...report...

1st Part 1: Boom. Over with. The scene now flows quite smoothly
2nd Part:Been Done Son
3rd Part 99% (Needs some minor grammactical tweaks so that the endings make more sense. I had to juggle the order aroudn because for some mysterious reason it stopped using the top part of the code after the Monodorans....Ugggghhh... But I got it. Tomorrow I WILL FINISH IT.)

Side Quests:
Monodoran (90% Just gotta finish the programming and add the quest giver to start it.)
Ixion (98% Just needs the dialogue which is cut scene based.)
Bandit: (10% Made the area...just need to make a map to match. Not too hard what with it being asteroid)
Juno (70% Still need the dialogue and connections...)
Bonus Character (Probably won't do this but 10%)

Credits 1000%


All in all folks? I'm tired....I'm running on fumes even though I did do somethign I've never done before. I finished a game's storyline! Even if you all helped technically this is the first one. I'd thank ya but that's why I made the credits! XD In all seriousness I will release this thing this comming week if somebody will agree to play test and try to kill the bugs I missed. Please?? TTuTT
Title: Re: Charas Chain Game 4 Official Thread
Post by: Prpl_Mage on March 07, 2016, 06:22:37 AM
Looks good, now take our advice and end the sidequests where they are so you don't run out of the little fumes you have left.
Title: Re: Charas Chain Game 4 Official Thread
Post by: Momeka on March 07, 2016, 12:11:14 PM
Just wrap up the story so we can move on with our lives.
Title: Re: Charas Chain Game 4 Official Thread
Post by: Zoltar on March 07, 2016, 07:53:24 PM
Do the side quests after you've finished the game. You can always re-release with them finished.
Title: Re: Charas Chain Game 4 Official Thread
Post by: Donut on March 07, 2016, 08:58:27 PM
Good luck wrapping this up! Just end the sidequest as suggested above, the game will surely be awesome even without!
Title: Re: Charas Chain Game 4 Official Thread
Post by: Fisherson on March 08, 2016, 03:29:25 AM
Do the side quests after you've finished the game. You can always re-release with them finished.

.....The vetrean of nearly ten years schooled by the n00b of ....is it even a year?? Gah I feel bad now. XD Good point, Zolty. Since this isn't Wrath of Gaia I choose when it's released and can basically re-release it with tweaks. Thank you, I owe you big.

Alright the masses have spoken I'll just finish Bandit's since I got it done after I put in the monsters and Juno's ultimate gun one since...well you'll want it for the final boss. ^^; Since farming EXP gets way harder after Chapter 7...Alright so that's a no on beta testers for the final version? Fine we'll release THIS WEEK and adjust from there ok?
Title: Re: Charas Chain Game 4 Official Thread
Post by: Fisherson on March 09, 2016, 02:28:16 AM
Ok understand I didn't do this on purpose, and any stonning of the Jedi would only wear your arms out, but the game couldn't be released today because guess what? A major bug, the Kratas Glitch messed up, the next to last character is messing up on the party change menu but it's not course correcting, I just realized the navi-comp is still busted oh and my favorite: the Morros ship attendant dude? Now glitches and sends you forward to the BANE ship....repeating that scene......then crashing the game so bad.....T__T  The story is finished but these programing glitches will crash the game before you get to the end if you take certain paths. I need programing help guys if you want it to be released next week.
Title: Re: Charas Chain Game 4 Official Thread
Post by: lonewolf on March 09, 2016, 02:33:36 PM
going to play this game tonight
Title: Re: Charas Chain Game 4 Official Thread
Post by: Fisherson on March 09, 2016, 03:08:47 PM
going to play this game tonight

Then

We don't even have the half-released mode done yet, Lonewolf. ^^; But guess what folks? The evil Krathas Bug 2.0 is dead and I'm going to kill the Morros one next! *Flowely laugh* The game will be released...I will not be denied. >8D
Title: Re: Charas Chain Game 4 Official Thread
Post by: Fisherson on March 11, 2016, 08:34:52 PM
Okay both bugs are dead. However there's one I can't solve that may seem unfair if you don't use Ixion in your party and I'm going to enlist one of you to help me fix it. You can volunteer....or I'll find you where you sleep and thrust the Chain Game into your arms. You have till Tuesday.  THEN I'M COMMING FOR YOU!! >8D

Nah in all seriousness I can't lick oen bug but other than that I want one of you to test play it before I release anyway so I can be 100% sure it works. I mean when I found those buggy Chapters in WoG I was very embarassed that the majority belonged to me....So please? ^_^
Title: Re: Charas Chain Game 4 Official Thread
Post by: Prpl_Mage on March 12, 2016, 10:35:22 PM
Shove it over my way and I'll take a look.
Title: Re: Charas Chain Game 4 Official Thread
Post by: Fisherson on March 12, 2016, 11:58:32 PM
Shove it over my way and I'll take a look.

Alright! This tuesday it'll be yours assuming all goes well. Which it should. ^-^ I feel so less stressed now....
Title: Re: Charas Chain Game 4 Official Thread
Post by: Prpl_Mage on March 26, 2016, 01:26:35 AM
So I got the game and have almost solved all the bugs at the moment. The biggest issue is the maker's "execute event on defeat" for enemy encounters isn't functioning as it should though. Probably because of all of our parallel events going on in the common event tab.

I'm also trying to do some balancing. Do any of you remember the average levels of your characters at the end of chapter 4? Mine were 15 but Fish's were 20-25

So perhaps another week and it's done?
Title: Re: Charas Chain Game 4 Official Thread
Post by: Momeka on March 26, 2016, 09:08:18 AM
I want to make some small adjustments to my chapter so if you can send it my way when you're done I'll finish them in a day or two.
Title: Re: Charas Chain Game 4 Official Thread
Post by: Prpl_Mage on March 30, 2016, 08:23:34 PM
There, one step closer to completion.
Title: Re: Charas Chain Game 4 Official Thread
Post by: Momeka on March 31, 2016, 11:31:33 AM
Yeah, I got it and have begun making the adjustments. But then I got a stupid idea, then I started doing the stupid idea so it's going to take a tad longer than the one to two days.
Title: Re: Charas Chain Game 4 Official Thread
Post by: Zoltar on March 31, 2016, 04:56:55 PM
Yeah, I got it and have begun making the adjustments. But then I got a stupid idea, then I started doing the stupid idea so it's going to take a tad longer than the one to two days.

If it's a stupid idea why waste time? We starving masses want our game brohiem! :yell: ....but if you're just saying 'stupid' as in 'other definition for a neutral emphasis on thing' then we want rush and will be patient....for a little longer. *Ominously fades into the shadows*
Title: Re: Charas Chain Game 4 Official Thread
Post by: Momeka on March 31, 2016, 05:31:14 PM
You'll have to live with it.

I'll be done by Sunday at the latest. Preferable earlier than that. Got most of the changes done, it's just the last thing that's gonna take some time.
Title: Re: Charas Chain Game 4 Official Thread
Post by: Donut on April 01, 2016, 10:23:41 AM
Getting closer to release! I'm dying to play it
Title: Re: Charas Chain Game 4 Official Thread
Post by: Moosetroop11 on April 02, 2016, 11:22:48 AM
I approve of your stupid idea Momeka. Feels more like a chain game again now it's back in the hands of the group ; )
Title: Re: Charas Chain Game 4 Official Thread
Post by: Momeka on April 03, 2016, 12:27:31 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/xEcUbzv.gif)


Not sure if I'll make it today, a bunch of other stuff I need to deal with came up. But I'm super close, so if not today I'll have it done tomorrow.
Title: Re: Charas Chain Game 4 Official Thread
Post by: Fisherson on April 04, 2016, 12:54:17 AM
Well it certainly looks interesting! Just make sure you peek at the end so you don't end up creating new stories with no capped off ends or unraveling story threads by piling some on without realizing how the final picture fits together.
Title: Re: Charas Chain Game 4 Official Thread
Post by: Momeka on April 04, 2016, 05:10:31 AM
I haven't added or changed any story elements just gameplay.

It will be done today, just gonna pretty up the chapter intro screen and play through the chapter see so everything is not broken.

Edit:
I've finished my changes and sent the game back to fish and prpl.

(http://i.imgur.com/frMWe6l.gif)
Title: Re: Charas Chain Game 4 Official Thread
Post by: Prpl_Mage on April 06, 2016, 05:30:53 AM
Got the game back and gonna make sure that stuff works before uploading it for download.

Great job guys!
Title: Re: Charas Chain Game 4 Official Thread
Post by: Felix-0 on April 07, 2016, 08:32:01 PM
odd question, but does this chain game need any music? I'd love to contribute to that, in that regard.
Title: Re: Charas Chain Game 4 Official Thread
Post by: Prpl_Mage on April 07, 2016, 11:11:08 PM
The game itself is pretty much finished now so unless you want to make some science fiction like main menu and game over music then I suppose it's a little too late.

But I'll be sure to contact you for future chain games, you and Moose, and Dren and DrAce. I'm lucky there are so many people around with musical talent since I lack it myself
Title: Re: Charas Chain Game 4 Official Thread
Post by: Felix-0 on April 08, 2016, 01:42:48 AM
The game itself is pretty much finished now so unless you want to make some science fiction like main menu and game over music then I suppose it's a little too late.

But I'll be sure to contact you for future chain games, you and Moose, and Dren and DrAce. I'm lucky there are so many people around with musical talent since I lack it myself
Science fiction style main menu and a game over style track? Well what type of music are you needing for game over, I'm certain I might be able to do that.
https://soundcloud.com/felix-mullins

HEre's muh soundcloud~ If you find anything you like there.
Title: Re: Charas Chain Game 4 Official Thread
Post by: Prpl_Mage on April 08, 2016, 05:20:15 AM
I'm thinking something that conveys the message of "you suck" and "oh no the galaxy is doomed". So mostly disappointment.


Btw, great songs on there.