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Title: Final Fantasy XV
Post by: Moosetroop11 on December 12, 2016, 06:39:26 AM
Hello everyone. Sorry I've been a bit absent recently. I hardly ever seem to use the internet on my laptop these days...

Has anyone been playing FF15? I'm a fair way in now. Spoilers excluded, how are you finding it? It's got it's faults but I'm enjoying it far more than I expected.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy XV
Post by: Archem on December 12, 2016, 01:52:25 PM
I'd like to know if it's worth my time. FFX was so bad that it ruined any future prospects for the series for me, and was the last numbered FF I've played. Is this more of that kind of garbage, or is it time for me to return?
Title: Re: Final Fantasy XV
Post by: Apex on December 12, 2016, 04:51:57 PM
I absolutely loved it! I've already platinum'd it on the Playstation 4. It was a lot of fun to play. The story was pretty concise, but interesting and keeps you invested. The real meat of the game lies in the sidequests, similar to Majora's Mask.

The music is wonderful, the battle system is very fun, the characters are very likable, and the presentation is top-notch. One of the best videogame experiences I've had in a long time.

That being said, it's not perfect. There's a few frustrating parts, most of which are optional post-game things. One part of the story outstays its welcome, but apparently their patching that to make it better.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy XV
Post by: Prpl_Mage on December 12, 2016, 06:52:16 PM
Gonna get it at the start of next year, going away for 2 weeks now. But the movie was okay.

I just hope it's a nwetter open world rpg than Xenoblades Chronicles X, that one had potential but made me dissapointed.

And also Archem, I would say that FFX is the last reasonable numbered FF, FFXII was the low point. But Bravely Default is a neat FF
Title: Re: Final Fantasy XV
Post by: Archem on December 12, 2016, 07:24:18 PM
Bravely Default is a neat FF.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy XV
Post by: Prpl_Mage on December 14, 2016, 01:19:17 AM
I'm actually playing FF Type 0 at the moment on the PS4. I figured I should play it before XV since they are both part of the crystal fabulous thingy. It's quite different to be blunt but still feels like an FF game.
Did anyone else bother with type 0?

Also, have there been any news on the DLC for XV yet? They made it sound like they had a whole batch during a presentation some time back.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy XV
Post by: Donut on December 14, 2016, 06:08:06 AM
I played the PSP version and was pretty disappointed. I still think that if this game wasn't called Final Fantasy, not much people would have wanted it outside of Japan.
The gameplay is very limited, the NG+ included in the first NG (Hello lvl99 Behemoths when you're level 10), the world was underused, and the narration very bad, which is expected from a mission-based game. THe PSP version had no EXP Share which basically left most of the cast useless, cause there are not enough missions to keep everyone on a good level for the main scenario. Without mentionning the ending. I've had a lot of problems with recent FF endings recently. LR for example was just a joke on every level, and the ending was one of the worst I've seen in any games I played.

As for FFXV, never been hyped for it, still not. I've read a few reviews and from what they say it's not a very good game, the story is really lame and needs Kingslaive and Brotherhood to be watched, the openworld is empty etc.... In general what I've read doesn't make me want it, and it's the first main FF I don't want xD But if people enjoy it, really good for them, we've been waiting for this game for so long after all.
Also I remember the time when it needed 60h to finish an exceptional main quest in the PS1/PS2 games. Since FFXIII we got back to the old style where you need 20h to 100% the games (I had 100% on XIII-2 in 19h and LR in 21h...) with a really bad story. I don't understand that. SE is big enough and has enough talents to make an excellent plot and long game worth 80€.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy XV
Post by: Apex on December 14, 2016, 04:54:51 PM
1. I never watched any of the supplementary material for FFXV, and had no problem following or enjoying the story.

2. People saying this game is bad wanted to hate it before they even tried it. The internet is a hate-filled cesspool in this day and age, that will rally to hate anything expected to be popular before it's even released. The negative opinions of this game existed before the game did. See Gamefaqs.

3.  The game has been teased and *developed* for 10 years, and the amount of hype has been staggering. Needless to say it had really high expectations to live up to. For me, I never let my expectations get out of control. I never expected it to be the super-most-perfect-awesome game on earth ever, and because of that, I'm not disappointed in the least, it was a great game.

4. What makes a story good is subjective, only you can decide if you like it or not. It's not a very long story admittedly, but it kept me entertained and curious to see what would happen next.

5. I... Didn't like Final Fantasy Type - 0. I felt like they introduced a new way to 1 hit KO my characters every two seconds. It was a frustrating game.


Hey Purp, what's your PSN name? Mines superevil6
Title: Re: Final Fantasy XV
Post by: Moosetroop11 on December 21, 2016, 09:53:29 AM
I disagree with the world being underused. Some of the sidequests were pretty samey but it's a cool realistic world designed to be driven through. Hopefully they'll learn from comments about the story being disjointed and next FF will be even better. I really felt the touch of classic FF with 15, but with plenty of innovation. Sort of FF12 feel done right, with elements of 8 and Lightning Returns.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy XV
Post by: Prpl_Mage on December 31, 2016, 09:20:37 AM
Sort of FF12 feel done right, with elements of 8 and Lightning Returns.

This could only be a good thing I think?

I own the game now, it was waiting for me in the mailbox when I got home. Haven't played it yet though.

Also, speaking of FFXII, wasn't they going to give it a 5$remake?
Title: Re: Final Fantasy XV
Post by: Prpl_Mage on January 06, 2017, 05:31:18 AM
So I finished Type 0 and I get why people say it has a terrible ending. That was worse than Xenoblade X. At least it has some sort of new game + with additional missions and scenes but I donno, didn't enjoy the game that much. The battle system was new and kinda enjoyable for a while until just became a chore for grinding bombs in that northen pass cave.
But who wrote this story? Even FFIX's final boss made more sense, and it made no sense!

Started playing FFXV now, it starts of a bit goofey but gets better along the way, it's just pretty different from other games that I need to remind myself that it's a modern FF. It has some things similar to the FFXIII series when it comes to gameplay and the like but still pretty unique. I kinda hate myself for failing the small AP missions from time to time. Like during quests when your bros set up a strategy but you get too close to the enemy and aggro them and just end up doing a Leroy Jenkins. Still trying to get a hang on things but it's a lot to learn about it so far.

But it seems good!
Title: Re: Final Fantasy XV
Post by: Apex on January 06, 2017, 07:21:53 PM
Don't stress the AP missions, just try to unlock some of the AP boosting skills, like Chocobo Riding gives you AP.

An AP tip that I didn't notice for a while into the game, is that if you kill an enemy with a warp-strike, you get 1 AP, so if you see an enemy with low health, just snipe 'em, and you'll be on your way to those expensive skills in no time.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy XV
Post by: Prpl_Mage on January 16, 2017, 11:44:19 AM
An AP tip that I didn't notice for a while into the game, is that if you kill an enemy with a warp-strike, you get 1 AP, so if you see an enemy with low health, just snipe 'em, and you'll be on your way to those expensive skills in no time.

I also noticed that link strikes does this as well.

But it's hard to keep yourself from just throwing in a thundara at those packs of MTs being dropped of the carriers. I haven't had much problem so far with enemies and such, but does the game get more grindy later? I saved up lots of exp before sleeping at an Inn with a 2x bonus and dinged like 7 times.

Also, PSN name is joffa8888, brother's old that I took when he moved out.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy XV
Post by: Moosetroop11 on January 20, 2017, 07:32:24 PM
Exp isn't hard to get at all, but you do have to go out of your way to save up enough AP, even with the warp strike thing. Trying to save up 999 to break Gladio's skill damage limit and it's a nightmare :p

Do y'all like the fishing? I really got into it.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy XV
Post by: Prpl_Mage on January 21, 2017, 03:03:52 AM
Exp isn't hard to get at all, but you do have to go out of your way to save up enough AP, even with the warp strike thing. Trying to save up 999 to break Gladio's skill damage limit and it's a nightmare :p

Do y'all like the fishing? I really got into it.

Not having too much trouble with AP so far, but mostly because I assumed that a lot of skills are supposed to come later and that there is some way to get a lot of AP in the future.  I have ap for fishing, chocoboing, driving, making camps and all that. You get some extras from it, but it's mostly from battles. Blindside link strikes, counter and warp strike kills all give one. And if you happen across one of those Niff dropships you can usually get like 10 or so from the pack. I have unlocked some 99 cost skills so far but still on chapter 4 (I always get sidetracked in these open world games). Quick question though, the wait mode nexus. It's only useful if you decide to play with the wait mode battle right?

I actually like the fishing it's well designed and there isn't a wait time for something to hook on. Lots of game have that as a main thing, pokémon, WoW, Terraria and it gets pretty boring. FFXV has actual fishes fishing around in the fish lakes and you just need to lure them. I guess my biggest problem is that I just don't know what fish there are in the lake. There are different baits for different kinds of fish but you don't know what fish are in the lake to begin with. Some fishing spots have a notice board mentioning some of the species but other times you just have to go with guesswork. I also wish there was some way to repair the fishing line durability, I usually end up buying a whole lot of them and then swap them out when they reach halfway or so, feels like a waste.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy XV
Post by: Moosetroop11 on January 23, 2017, 07:50:15 PM
I agree with the lines, but that sort of helps to make fishing feel like an expensive sport which I sort of like :p As for the fish locations, there are fishing magazines scattered around that give hints, but other than that its very much 'try a few lures'. Lures aren't only good for catching their recommended fish... I think some fish are bottom feeders and sone are top, etc etc
Title: Re: Final Fantasy XV
Post by: Apex on January 24, 2017, 12:22:19 AM
I liked fishing, I caught the two mega fish that I knew of in the game. They were tough and took a while buta blast doing.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy XV
Post by: Prpl_Mage on February 09, 2017, 01:02:18 PM
So I made some good progress, and not to spoil too much but I'm enjoying a train ride at the moment.

What was the point of that monster arena thing? I didn't really have problem winning the matches and earned a neat car engine in no time. It was tedious but not difficult.

I also tried to catch one of the difficult fishes but it was just to strong, line broke in a few seconds. And then for some reason I managed to unlock a lvl 99 hunt quest.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy XV
Post by: Apex on February 09, 2017, 04:39:03 PM
I actually never did the monster arena once. Whooops. I didn't do Chocobo racing either.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy XV
Post by: Fisherson on February 09, 2017, 10:15:23 PM
Arrrgh it's killing me that FF15 is the first title in a long time on this next gen Nva Crystalis that looks flawless in story and gameplay and I can't play cause I can't afford a new console...-.-; Tell me is the PC version as good as the console?
Title: Re: Final Fantasy XV
Post by: Archem on February 10, 2017, 03:41:15 AM
What PC version?
Title: Re: Final Fantasy XV
Post by: Moosetroop11 on February 11, 2017, 07:04:03 PM
flawless in story
Erm... I wouldn't say it was flawless in story, dude. It's rushed, fragmented and a bit confusing. But I still like it.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy XV
Post by: Prpl_Mage on February 12, 2017, 03:44:21 AM
Erm... I wouldn't say it was flawless in story, dude. It's rushed, fragmented and a bit confusing. But I still like it.

Sounds about right. I reached the part of the story where I could return and do all those sidequests again. Looking for the last 2 kingsglaives as well. I assume one is in tower castlemark but I have no idea how to enter. Also regarding fishing, I bought the Reel from the monster arena and have the pole from Lake vesperpool. Is there any more upgrades that can be made? Dude wants me to catch some monster fish in Golden Qey now.

Doing the last couple of sidequests and a lot of hunts now. It's just really difficult to know how hard they are. Sometimes a lvl 38 hunt is easy, other times you have trouble with a lvl. 35.

Are there any better weapons than those sold in chapter 14?

PS: I hate the wasp hunts. Your AI fellows can't do **** against them. You can barely do anything against them and they keep confusing you all the time.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy XV
Post by: Apex on February 12, 2017, 04:38:09 PM
You can go into Costlemark at night.

Also, Cid will upgrade certain weapons for you, like the Engine Blade. It's worth doing that.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy XV
Post by: Prpl_Mage on February 17, 2017, 06:49:11 PM
Okay so I beat the game, lvl 74 and spent like 72 hours, 20-ish of those were from doing all the hunts and sidequests before finishing the game. I guess I just expected more after 10 years development.

Also, what is the point of New game +?. And for that matter, the Regalia type F?

Also looked through the old trailers, pretty much nothing made it into the finished game. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ACSpgGAjGfM Although that might haven been in the whole "let's make this ffxv instead" process
Title: Re: Final Fantasy XV
Post by: Apex on February 19, 2017, 09:38:30 PM
It was announced as a different game 10 years ago, it hadn't  been in development for 10 years. Closer to 3.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy XV
Post by: Prpl_Mage on February 20, 2017, 03:27:32 AM
It was announced as a different game 10 years ago, it hadn't  been in development for 10 years. Closer to 3.

While this is true the story still feels rushed and not really thought through. I just expected that 7 years of planning before 3 years of working would make a more coherent story. This feels a bit like FF type 0, especially with the rushed ending. I kinda expected them to learn from Xenogears all those years ago.

I can honestly say that I kinda get what happened near the end, but it's not thanks to the game but rather me filling in the blanks with generic JRPG stereotypes. I don't know if there is some sort of secret dungeon out there with additional info about the final boss or why it is the way it is but it should be more obvious to the player. I still have no idea why the next to last boss is what it is, or why it was there in the first place.

I really love the design of the game, the battle system, the open world where you need to wage bonus exp or better food and all that. The skills that level up and chocobos that are customizable. But I just feel like a game needs a good story as well. And I donno, maybe I was hoping that this would be the FF that would bring that back. But maybe the days of story focus are over.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy XV
Post by: Prpl_Mage on March 24, 2017, 11:52:01 AM
So anyone out there gonna get the DLC stories for the game?  I'm considering it but won't happen right on release
Title: Re: Final Fantasy XV
Post by: Apex on March 24, 2017, 07:00:18 PM
I'm gonna wait till they're all out, or until I have time/money to get the pass, since that puts it at a discount.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy XV
Post by: Dr. Ace on March 27, 2017, 10:45:27 AM
Played through the whole game just after it got released. The gameplay is really fun. The story was a confusing and unfinished mess in my opinion. But goddamn did it not stop the bro-tier fun with the cast. I love all four of them, felt like a good group of friends and lots of fun. Still have to check the DLC, and beat the turtle boss. Oh, and some of the post-game dungeons but I found them really lazily put together.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy XV
Post by: Moosetroop11 on March 30, 2017, 04:13:31 PM
Oh, and some of the post-game dungeons but I found them really lazily put together.
Yeah... They were pretty disappointing :s After all that anticipation seeing the doors :p
Title: Re: Final Fantasy XV
Post by: Dr. Ace on March 31, 2017, 03:59:01 AM
Agreed. The doors were setting up for some special dungeons but then they ended up being this boring copy-paste hallways-room system.