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Off-Topic => All of all! => Topic started by: Momeka on March 21, 2017, 05:48:43 AM

Title: Another Chain Game?
Post by: Momeka on March 21, 2017, 05:48:43 AM
It's been a while since we finished the last one and my fingers are kinda itching to do a new one. This is mostly just an interest check, do people feel like or have time doing another chain game?
Been thinking that maybe we should keep a next one shorter, since people usually end up having to do multiple chapters anyway. So maybe have 3 - 4 chapters in total depending on how many are interested. Which should also maybe not take a year to finish.

Also since it's sorta on topic I can post some stats from the chain games on the charas itch.io page (https://charas-project.itch.io/). The games got a total of 74 downloads, 54 of them being Wrath of Gaia (not really sure why, maybe fantasy rpgs are just more popular). The Charas page also got 7 followers.

Anyway, how do people feel? Is it time?

We're doing it

Tool: Rpgmaker 2003
Setting: Modern

Makers:
1. Momeka
2. Fisherson
3. Donut
4. Moosetroop11
5. Prpl_Mage

Bug fixing round:
1. Momeka
2. Fisherson
3. Donut
4. Moosetroop11
5. Prpl_Mage
Title: Re: Another Chain Game?
Post by: Prpl_Mage on March 22, 2017, 01:26:42 AM
Right, I was going to start a thread in January but life happens.

I made a whole bunch of charsets with your contest winning sprite as a base and one okay tileset to get it started but forgot to backup the steam folder when my old computer started crashing. (I use a software called Aseprite for spriting through steam, and mainly only use the steam version of rpgm2k3).

So I got nothing, and that one thread I was going to start was about what we wanted to do since my plan went up in smokes. But that plan was 5 chapters total instead of 10 to shorten the time as you also mentioned above. Maybe you can get the honor to start the chain game this time to set the theme?

I should have some more time no, so this feels fine by me.
Title: Re: Another Chain Game?
Post by: Momeka on March 22, 2017, 02:40:04 AM
Ah man, that's a bummer.

And sure I can do something, I'll get started tonight.
Title: Re: Another Chain Game?
Post by: Dr. Ace on March 22, 2017, 03:20:20 AM
I will join but only if I can go second!
Title: Re: Another Chain Game?
Post by: Donut on March 22, 2017, 09:24:27 AM
Never been in a chain game, that could be fun. I'm quite busy making puzzles for THW, but I sure can pause that a bit, that would be a welcomed pause to refresh my mind :)
Title: Re: Another Chain Game?
Post by: Zoltar on March 22, 2017, 11:38:41 AM
3-4 Chapters? That sounds too short for a three act story and really good characters to emerge but the Big Z wants a spot! If only cuz I want to make a one instead of playing them all the time! Do we have any idea on the theme or are we going old School like the first one and just following a group of random thugs roaming around and not sticking to one setting or character type  :P I ask because I like Supernatural things in my games as my main go to, but if pushed I can step a little out of my comfort zone.
Title: Re: Another Chain Game?
Post by: Fisherson on March 23, 2017, 12:40:32 AM
Another Chain Game? Finally! Hmm 3-4 chapters would be dumb though. I mean I know why you want it to be released sooner but the stories are getting more and more complex. I personally don't want to take a step backwards. Our plots, parties and even systems have been evolving slolwy. I don't know if we CAN make a simple small game anymore. I wanted the winter Chain Game to be that but eh I was doubtful it would have less than 8 chapters somehow. Either way I will sign up, if only cause I've done everyone to modern date and I love doing it, but I will NOT DO THE END. -_-; Juno's Odyssey nearly killed me on that ending and I'm still fixing it off and on.

Which reminds me, Red, I didn't know it was YOU who put up that Juno's Odyssey Page I found online away from the forum! Good work that and I love what you did with both titles in that link. Maybe we should add Lost and Found to that list sometime?
Title: Re: Another Chain Game?
Post by: Momeka on March 23, 2017, 01:46:43 AM
I really donít see how a see how ďcomplexĒ stories is a good thing for a chain game. Since the chain games are unplanned and the makers just do from what they interpreted by playing a more complex story would just lead to more plot holes, contradiction and confusion.
That said I really donít see why you wouldnít be able to tell a story in three chapters, if people can tell stories with a 10 min short movie or 50 page book Iím sure we can tell one with three chapters. Hell, thereís people telling their stories with shorter games than what a three chapter chain game would be.

That said though, I'll double it, this chain game is six chapters long, so there is one free spot open (don't do math early in the morning). If all spots are filled feel free to sign up anyway, I'll put you on the back up list and you will be contacted when someone drops out.
Also Fish, you're last for now, check if anyone wants to trade spots with you. Or I can move you down if someone have to drop out.

As for settings, we done fantasy and sci fi so itís time for a modern. It will be kinda 90s inspired with some fantasy creatures thrown into the mix.

Also I've started on the game, going to try to finish it as fast as I can but it's probably going to take a week or two.
Title: Re: Another Chain Game?
Post by: Prpl_Mage on March 23, 2017, 01:40:52 PM
Yeah 5 chapters is more than enough. Most old plays are 5 acts after all.

And being last in a chain game is kinda messy since you need to try to tie everything together, all the plotholes created by the previous chapters that weren't answered by the next person. Which is okay of course for a chain game, since it is an unplanned cooperation between different parties.

And  hints, setting and ambiance is sometimes more interesting than a complex space opera

Also, remove me from the list for now. I'll jump in if people drop out, otherwise I am happy with supplying help and resources for this one since I flunked the start
Title: Re: Another Chain Game?
Post by: Fisherson on March 24, 2017, 02:26:30 AM
Arrrrrhhh! Don't wanna be last again. TTUTT Zolty! Trade with me and I'll make you sprites! Help you wish understanding MV.....I'll make a freaking cameo of Proud Mary in the Dentverse AND Evenstar Saga! Hazmana! I'll do free advertising for you on my DA! Anything but the final boss and tying it all together.

I really donít see how a see how ďcomplexĒ stories is a good thing for a chain game. Since the chain games are unplanned and the makers just do from what they interpreted by playing a more complex story would just lead to more plot holes, contradiction and confusion.
That said I really donít see why you wouldnít be able to tell a story in three chapters, if people can tell stories with a 10 min short movie or 50 page book Iím sure we can tell one with three chapters. Hell, thereís people telling their stories with shorter games than what a three chapter chain game would be.

I suppose you are right. =/ I dunno I just struggle with small stories. Tis been a bane to me trying to write. It's why I was shocked when I wrote such a simple start for Juno's Odyssey. Ofcourse we all know the end didn't work out that way. ^_^; And I see what you mean. The longer the story goes the more chances we have to step on one another's feet. -_- Alright I'll try my hand at a shorter game.....after I kill Zoltar and steal his spot. X3

Yeah 5 chapters is more than enough. Most old plays are 5 acts after all.

o.O Didn't know that. then again I'm not big on the theater as much as the movie theater. Mostly know Shakespeare through the Simpsons after all XD
Title: Re: Another Chain Game?
Post by: Momeka on March 25, 2017, 06:35:14 PM
I was kinda hoping to be done by Sunday, but yeeeeeah, no way that's going to happen. Been mostly just hammering away on graphics but it's really time consuming. So I'd figured I try to ask for help. If you want to help out or are just bored and feel like spriting a bit, feel free to make a character or two or ten. Draw whatever you want, I'm not looking for anything specific, just characters to populate the world with. Now the game is a modern setting so bonus points if it isn't all armored knights and wizards.

You don't have to be signed up or anything. Anyway feel free to join in. I'll make sure we get some credit thing in the end of this one for everyone helping out.

Here's the template for male and female characters:
(http://i.imgur.com/yrzKbAC.png)

Here's some npc I already made, feel free to dissect them, reuse parts or recolor them:
(http://i.imgur.com/WfRcOo8.png) (http://i.imgur.com/TGMytt7.png)
I'll post an update version of the female npcs once I finished more of them.

Here's the colors I used (if you use asesprite it's "edg32"):
(http://i.imgur.com/MWaNrPL.png)
You don't have to use these, but they're guaranteed to match the ingame graphics if you do. 

Just post what you make in this thread and I'll add it to the game.
Title: Re: Another Chain Game?
Post by: Dr. Ace on March 26, 2017, 06:24:12 AM
Made a quick fat guy template. I'll add some fat-guy npcs later.

(http://i.imgur.com/H05LWkW.png)
Title: Re: Another Chain Game?
Post by: Zoltar on March 26, 2017, 12:58:09 PM
Oh so that's the style! Mono nice looking. Though making it from hand....  :-\ That looks challenging! Maybe the Big Z should leave this one alone. Fishman can have my spot.  :bend: I'm dropping out.
Title: Re: Another Chain Game?
Post by: Momeka on March 26, 2017, 01:15:03 PM
Oh so that's the style! Mono nice looking. Though making it from hand....  :-\ That looks challenging! Maybe the Big Z should leave this one alone. Fishman can have my spot.  :bend: I'm dropping out.

Are you sure? There will be plenty of finished resources to work with and if you're missing anything just ask me and I'll whip something up for you.
Title: Re: Another Chain Game?
Post by: Moosetroop11 on March 26, 2017, 04:37:22 PM
Erm is there space for me to do a chapter? : S
Title: Re: Another Chain Game?
Post by: Zoltar on March 26, 2017, 06:55:11 PM
Are you sure? There will be plenty of finished resources to work with and if you're missing anything just ask me and I'll whip something up for you.

Yeah. I thought about it and my gane demo is almost ready! I'm mondo excited to see it done after so long just working on it.  _sweat_  I'm not going to give it up for free though. >:D. Fishman since I'm doing this you owe me one on my game AND you have to put Proud Mary in the game somewhere. Doesn't have to be playable BUT she must have some lines. Acceptable?
Title: Re: Another Chain Game?
Post by: Momeka on March 27, 2017, 01:19:09 AM
Erm is there space for me to do a chapter? : S

There is now!
Title: Re: Another Chain Game?
Post by: Donut on March 27, 2017, 02:18:54 AM
Those sprites look nice!
I'll try to do something tonight with them. Do you already have an idea on the plot and main characters in general? I'm just wondering how you guys work on chain games actually, each community seems to do it differently.
Title: Re: Another Chain Game?
Post by: Momeka on March 27, 2017, 03:19:05 AM
In the past we gone in completely blind to it, but if people would prefer a summery of the story in chapter 1 I can provide that.
Title: Re: Another Chain Game?
Post by: Donut on March 29, 2017, 07:05:46 AM
If you guys usually do it blind, then that's fine :)
Also, I had time to make a countryman chara yesterday. Not quite satisfied with the hat, but I couldn't make it look more satisfying to me
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/UT9EOOSZZwrNjnunEpKIToJBjTmGmL2N0jVAjevMhKGdqsUUgAm_tN8UEECoDvVkYo9EhI92=w1016-h563)
Title: Re: Another Chain Game?
Post by: Fisherson on March 29, 2017, 01:17:55 PM
Agreed, Zolty. ^_^ But before we get too far ahead of ourselves....My RPG Maker 2003 and tried to import some sets I made after fomating them and pasting them to the sheet provided....it said they were the wrong size. o.O So I tried to import the ones you had already made and it gave me the same line of BS. -.-;;  Anybody else having that problem?
Title: Re: Another Chain Game?
Post by: Prpl_Mage on March 30, 2017, 12:08:48 AM
Well those are lines of three NPCs, a charset sheet has four lines
Title: Re: Another Chain Game?
Post by: Momeka on March 30, 2017, 12:53:21 AM
If you guys usually do it blind, then that's fine :)
Also, I had time to make a countryman chara yesterday. Not quite satisfied with the hat, but I couldn't make it look more satisfying to me
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/UT9EOOSZZwrNjnunEpKIToJBjTmGmL2N0jVAjevMhKGdqsUUgAm_tN8UEECoDvVkYo9EhI92=w1016-h563)

The image is broken for me, Donut.

Agreed, Zolty. ^_^ But before we get too far ahead of ourselves....My RPG Maker 2003 and tried to import some sets I made after fomating them and pasting them to the sheet provided....it said they were the wrong size. o.O So I tried to import the ones you had already made and it gave me the same line of BS. -.-;;  Anybody else having that problem?

Yeah, f'ed up the number of characters in the sheets. Never use the importer, don't know if they need to be full size.  Anyway, here, filled up the sheets:
(http://i.imgur.com/Ea13hFJ.png) (http://i.imgur.com/35TojvA.png) (http://i.imgur.com/7UKOAlx.png)
Title: Re: Another Chain Game?
Post by: Donut on March 30, 2017, 01:18:43 AM
Weird. Maybe my gdrive is down, it happens sometimes.
(https://s16.postimg.org/ifajjsj39/yrz_Kb_AC.png)

Will try to make a few more in the train today, as I have a 4h travel by train
Title: Re: Another Chain Game?
Post by: Momeka on March 31, 2017, 10:37:16 AM
Looks great, Donut. I've added it to the game.

Progress report: Sorry, not going as fast as I usually am with these thing. I'd say I'm about halfway done with the chapter but I also want to take time to do some extra chipsets and stuff just so there are materials to work with. Combined with me having to work a bunch of overtime this weekend I'm afraid it's gonna be at least another week before the chapter is ready.
Title: Re: Another Chain Game?
Post by: Prpl_Mage on March 31, 2017, 04:57:04 PM
Looks great, Donut. I've added it to the game.

Progress report: Sorry, not going as fast as I usually am with these thing. I'd say I'm about halfway done with the chapter but I also want to take time to do some extra chipsets and stuff just so there are materials to work with. Combined with me having to work a bunch of overtime this weekend I'm afraid it's gonna be at least another week before the chapter is ready.

No stress, you only pitched the idea some week back so we are within the reasonable timeframe
Title: Re: Another Chain Game?
Post by: Dr. Ace on March 31, 2017, 05:54:30 PM
I'm a bit rusty with spriting (about 5 years) but here's a thing I made.

(http://i.imgur.com/M4WTU74.png)
Title: Re: Another Chain Game?
Post by: Fisherson on April 01, 2017, 11:29:56 PM
Okay I made a few myself. I rather like this simple and yet expressive style, Red. Nice job designing it.
(http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f29/david-n-dent/Fishs%20CCG%205%20EXAMPLEs_zpsmtttfotn.png) (http://s44.photobucket.com/user/david-n-dent/media/Fishs%20CCG%205%20EXAMPLEs_zpsmtttfotn.png.html)

The top most are, as you can plainly see, finished sets. The bottom ones are ones that are either single direction or WIPs. X3 I'm most proud of the the evil clown/ring master type guy. I made him from an adapted 'fat' temp. I also made some black Charasets cause you know we've never had any in chain games hardly. Playable, NPC or enemies even. o.o; I thinkthe first technically was one of Sally's pirate band who's name I forget. Also did me so I can be in our Convo Box or maybe just sort of standing on my own chapter title. Whichever works really. And yes that is a ball gag and latex mankini. =P
Title: Re: Another Chain Game?
Post by: Donut on April 03, 2017, 05:50:57 AM
Really nice, Fish, I like the horsy one :)
Title: Re: Another Chain Game?
Post by: Momeka on April 03, 2017, 03:37:06 PM
Yeah, Fish, looks real good, I'll include them in the project.
Title: Re: Another Chain Game?
Post by: Donut on April 12, 2017, 06:12:21 AM
How is it going?
Title: Re: Another Chain Game?
Post by: Momeka on April 12, 2017, 05:09:30 PM
I'm so close to finish it. Working on the final scene and then I need to add some sfx to another cutscene and it's done. My goal is to get it to next person by sunday, it should give me sometime to do some extra graphics as well.
Title: Re: Another Chain Game?
Post by: Fisherson on April 15, 2017, 12:33:31 AM
speaking of here's another couple of finished sets.
(http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f29/david-n-dent/New%20CCG5%202_zpsxyvobwph.png) (http://s44.photobucket.com/user/david-n-dent/media/New%20CCG5%202_zpsxyvobwph.png.html)

A gal in arm binders, the finished horse cos-player and bad *** guy in an AC-DC T-shirt.
Title: Re: Another Chain Game?
Post by: Momeka on April 15, 2017, 03:19:39 AM
Awesome Fish! I'll add them to the project.
Title: Re: Another Chain Game?
Post by: Momeka on April 16, 2017, 10:14:13 AM
I've finished and sent the game to Dr.Ace.
Title: Re: Another Chain Game?
Post by: Dr. Ace on April 20, 2017, 08:39:13 AM
I want to let everyone know that I've received the game and played it (really nice work Momeka) but that my health issues atm are holding me back to work on it. So it might take a bit longer than I hoped. Luckily I got a week off so maybe some rest will do me well.
Title: Re: Another Chain Game?
Post by: Momeka on April 21, 2017, 06:11:32 AM
Here's some monsters I doodled and never used. So if anyone wants to use them feel free to do so.

(http://i.imgur.com/kW9xnQt.png) (http://i.imgur.com/c410xD5.png) (http://i.imgur.com/t9MsHL0.png) (http://i.imgur.com/WBc1k61.png) (http://i.imgur.com/CyPlyys.png) (http://i.imgur.com/Cbz7o6M.png) (http://i.imgur.com/Rd0761Z.png)
Title: Re: Another Chain Game?
Post by: Dr. Ace on May 19, 2017, 04:51:46 AM
After being sick for a while, I'm now swamped in catching up to work. I was hoping to find some time to work on the chaingame, but sadly I'm too tired to work on it. It would work a lot better if I get to work on it in the summer, so I want to swap spots with Donut. Lemme know.
Title: Re: Another Chain Game?
Post by: Donut on May 19, 2017, 05:22:56 AM
I don't have much work recently, so I don't mind :)
I won't be able to start working on it this weekend though, as I have to visit family.
Title: Re: Another Chain Game?
Post by: Momeka on May 19, 2017, 03:14:39 PM
I pm'd you the chapter. Good luck and have fun!
Title: Re: Another Chain Game?
Post by: Donut on May 24, 2017, 03:19:44 AM
Played through the chapter, really like what you've done, and the amount of work you must have provided. I've got an idea on how to continue the story, I hope I can make my chapter as good!
Title: Re: Another Chain Game?
Post by: Moosetroop11 on May 28, 2017, 03:50:31 PM
Still excited : )
Title: Re: Another Chain Game?
Post by: Zoltar on June 01, 2017, 09:20:11 AM
Played through the chapter, really like what you've done, and the amount of work you must have provided. I've got an idea on how to continue the story, I hope I can make my chapter as good!

Sir Momo always makes a cool opener from the ones I've played so far. Granted that's just 1,3 and 4 but I asked Fishman and he said that technically there's only three because the second one died in mid design or something and only a demo of the first chapter existed.  :o Weird.
Title: Re: Another Chain Game?
Post by: Momeka on June 01, 2017, 11:00:12 AM
Thanks Z.

the second one died in mid design or something and only a demo of the first chapter existed.  :o Weird.

Hey fish, do you still have that demo?
Title: Re: Another Chain Game?
Post by: Donut on June 02, 2017, 12:07:36 AM
Hey guys!
Bad news for me today. After 6 years of loyal services, and 3 days of randomly freezing for seconds, my MacBook died yesterday and is impossible to reboot or anything. I've tried many of the solutions to those problems suggested by Apple, without any luck. This means I am unable to finish my chapter of the chain game. Customer services will need about two weeks to see what they can do, but it seems more than likely that I'll have to buy a new computer. Unfortunately, the Mac died during a backup, which fucked up my backing hard drive as well, making it unusable. I can still provide plot and design ideas I had for my chapter but that's about it :( I hope either the Mac will be replaced or fixed (cheaper) by the end of the month, but until then I am afraid I can't do anything :( This comes even more as a hard hit as I need the computer much for work use (guess I'll have to use one of the shitty Ubuntu ones that Uni has...) And that I don't have much money for a new laptop atm...
Sorry about that :(
Title: Re: Another Chain Game?
Post by: Momeka on June 02, 2017, 05:34:42 AM
Ah, that really sucks. I was looking forward to see what you would do.

Asked Dr.Ace, but he doesn't have time to do a chapter so I've sent a pm to Fish as he is next up.
Title: Re: Another Chain Game?
Post by: Prpl_Mage on June 02, 2017, 01:39:24 PM
Hey guys!
Bad news for me today. After 6 years of loyal services, and 3 days of randomly freezing for seconds, my MacBook died yesterday and is impossible to reboot or anything. I've tried many of the solutions to those problems suggested by Apple, without any luck. This means I am unable to finish my chapter of the chain game. Customer services will need about two weeks to see what they can do, but it seems more than likely that I'll have to buy a new computer. Unfortunately, the Mac died during a backup, which fucked up my backing hard drive as well, making it unusable. I can still provide plot and design ideas I had for my chapter but that's about it :( I hope either the Mac will be replaced or fixed (cheaper) by the end of the month, but until then I am afraid I can't do anything :( This comes even more as a hard hit as I need the computer much for work use (guess I'll have to use one of the shitty Ubuntu ones that Uni has...) And that I don't have much money for a new laptop atm...
Sorry about that :(

Sorry to hear that, hope they can straighten things out.
Title: Re: Another Chain Game?
Post by: Fisherson on June 03, 2017, 01:25:26 AM
Noooooo! I'm so sorry for ya, Donut! It sucks to have your computer blow up and take your chapter with it. =/ A terrible first Chain Game experience but hey it could be worse! You could be like me and kill one by taking too long with your chapter till there's nobody to take it. ^_^; Looks like it's up to me then! I'll just need to get to a wi-fi source, buy ME:3 and NOT PLAY IT!! XD At least till I'm done codding a chapter so good it will be heralded and envied!

....Or at least not contain a fifteen minute crawl that has very little to do with the game. <.<
Title: Re: Another Chain Game?
Post by: Momeka on June 03, 2017, 02:38:49 AM
Fish, I've pm'd you the game.

Donut: Do you want a spot further down the list or should I remove you from the queue?
Title: Re: Another Chain Game?
Post by: Donut on June 06, 2017, 03:18:13 AM
After Fish would be fine. Support was faster than expected to tell me the computer was definitively dead (I'll get it back to harvest usable components for one of my friends), and I ordered a new one (Lenovo Yoga 510, better than my macbook pro - not too expensive so that I could afford it) which should arrive in the upcoming weeks.
Title: Re: Another Chain Game?
Post by: Fisherson on June 09, 2017, 12:04:26 AM
Okay so I played through and I freaking loved it! ^_^ Just got to wait till Donut responds with what he did before I decide to proceed but I'm drawing up alternate scenarios while I wait and tweaking the skills as there were none for the heroes and I'm actually pretty decent at that. Tomorrow I'll do some real work though hopefully!
Title: Re: Another Chain Game?
Post by: Zoltar on June 23, 2017, 02:44:51 PM
Would it be out of place for Big Z to ask about how the Chain Game is doing?
Title: Re: Another Chain Game?
Post by: Fisherson on June 23, 2017, 11:12:56 PM
Well it was doing freaking awesome till Steam locked me out of my RPG maker 2003!! XO Ohhh I am angry! All I did was buy like five games today and now it won't unlock my Steam 2003....Yet I can play Skyrim or anything else....just not 2003. -.- Gonna try to get to the library ASAP and Red will get a backup copy.
Title: Re: Another Chain Game?
Post by: Momeka on June 24, 2017, 06:08:56 AM
How is it locking you out?

I'll be leaving on a vacation thing on monday and will be gone for two months. So I won't be able to be around and managing things until like end of August/beginning of September.
Title: Re: Another Chain Game?
Post by: Fisherson on June 25, 2017, 07:15:29 PM
How is it locking you out?

I'll be leaving on a vacation thing on monday and will be gone for two months. So I won't be able to be around and managing things until like end of August/beginning of September.

It locked me out....I'm not even sure. Sometimes it does freeze which is what I thought this was. Just a freeze cause I could get in but none of my icons but Skyrim would work. It's weird. I request an additional two days past my deadline even though I likely won't need them. I was just writing the last two cut scenes there likely were to be needed. Honestly my hard codding is down to one mini game, a few keys to open the last dungeon door and monsters. My final boss is done and I've play tested to balance it even. Managed to beat it on level 7 with all the right gear.

That's fine. Like I said I'll go to a wi-fi source and try DLing the stuff I bought and see if that unlocks it since it was working fine until I bought some games on the Steam Sale so logically that has to be it. XD I'm not too worried ....unless this fails....Then I'll just send it on and mark the game as cursed o.o; One weird incident? Coincidence. Two? That's a curse.
Title: Re: Another Chain Game?
Post by: Zoltar on June 26, 2017, 04:15:57 PM
 :o You don't let anything keep you down do you, Fishman? Good luck! Mondo good luck!
Title: Re: Another Chain Game?
Post by: Fisherson on June 26, 2017, 06:11:41 PM
Oh I have a reason for not letting much get me down. Life steps on me and I push...FORCE PUSH!

*Force Leaps up with his eyes closed and tackles the big, metallic beastie that is Steam slicing it to ribbons and taking the game back and holding it aloft screaming primaly as an image of Devon, Jack and Juno appear behind me lifting their various over sized and over powered weapons up joining in. Past Chain Game villains sigh and go back to the drawing board...*

 It's working again and I got a better idea for my puzzle now that will make it even more infuriating. =D So it's off to work I go...and something about ho's!
Title: Re: Another Chain Game?
Post by: Momeka on July 14, 2017, 02:59:15 AM
Chapter 2 is done! Next up is Dr.Ace for chapter 3 and after that it's Donut.
Title: Re: Another Chain Game?
Post by: Dr. Ace on July 31, 2017, 06:26:29 AM
Small update, haven't been able to work on it last week due to my laptop being in the shop. I'm hoping it'll be back tomorrow, so I can finish it this week.
Title: Re: Another Chain Game?
Post by: Fisherson on July 31, 2017, 08:19:47 PM
Well that's sad but unavoidable. I'm sure you'll get to work soon...just don't pull a Fisherson like he did when he kept the game and never really did anything....till the desire to work on it died. *Shudders* Haunts me allot to this day. It's why I tried to do shorter chapter this go around.
Title: Re: Another Chain Game?
Post by: zuhane on August 01, 2017, 10:05:57 AM
This sounds exciting :D any screenies up yet?
Title: Re: Another Chain Game?
Post by: Fisherson on August 02, 2017, 12:28:02 AM
This sounds exciting :D any screenies up yet?

No screens yet it's only on it's second chapter! Wait till at least chapter 4. Then it will have more variety in it's looks.
Title: Re: Another Chain Game?
Post by: Zoltar on August 07, 2017, 10:52:13 AM
**** happens. If you dare to take on the the monstrous curl your gonna wipe out, brah! The ones who master the wave are those mondo few who get back on the board. :Plight:
Title: Re: Another Chain Game?
Post by: Momeka on August 08, 2017, 05:11:00 AM
I had an idea, I'm not sure how feasible it would be but figured I'd do a small interest check anyway. How about doing another version of this chain game? Chapter one is more or less the same (story would be the same but would like to redo some level design just to mix it up a bit) and then we basically start another run. In the end we can see how different or the same the games turned out.
I would like to keep it smaller maybe three chapter total. Another limit would be that you're not allowed to sign up for the same spot you have in the original.

But yeah, Charas is small and most people interested in making a chain game is already doing the original, I dunno, what do you guys say? Are you interested in something like this or are you burned out on chain games for awhile?
Title: Re: Another Chain Game?
Post by: Prpl_Mage on August 09, 2017, 12:44:32 AM
Sounds like a cool idea, but I can imagine it becoming quite stressful, especially now that the first version has been delayed some.
Title: Re: Another Chain Game?
Post by: Moosetroop11 on August 09, 2017, 11:02:26 AM
So a sort of 'how different two games can end up from the same start point!' sort of thing...

It does sound cool, and I'd get on board if everyone did, but my part hasn't happened yet so I'm assuming I'll be busy with that at some point
Title: Re: Another Chain Game?
Post by: Donut on August 10, 2017, 09:35:21 AM
That could be something fun to do actually =)

@Dr Ace. Aww shame. Computers can be such d**ks sometimes :(
Title: Re: Another Chain Game?
Post by: Fisherson on August 10, 2017, 11:43:11 PM
Hmm the experimentalist in me really wouldn't mind doing two two different simultaneous games at once but the realist in me questions what would be the point. The same story only different levels and LESS content? Meh. I would more be curious if you were to take the point when the protagonists broke up their party and then have it so that one of them was made the hero instead. That would be worth exploring or if you have game that works like Undertale where the whole thing just resets and something changes, only instead of some NPC or a phone call it could be something big like a level or an extra plot arc or choice you didn't have before! Man that would have been nice.

Though again I'm not sure it's worth it to possibly take energy from this Chain Game currently in progress. Especially until we see if Doctor Ace gets his chapter done. Which reminds me I will not let this one be DOA. CCG2 I couldn't save but this one ....will not die.
Title: Re: Another Chain Game?
Post by: Momeka on August 11, 2017, 03:06:02 AM
But it's a chain game, in the very nature of it it won't be the same story. Someone else will intrepid what happens in chapter 1 and what should happens next. Then someone else will build on that. I think they will be vastly different. As for it being less content I don't really mind, personally I prefer shorter games. More doesn't automatically equal better, mostly just a bigger chance that I get bored and stop playing halfway through.

I'm willing to give it a try if there is enough people up for trying. If not that's fine, just thought it could be fun.

Edit: As for it would kill the original game, I highly doubt it will affect it at all. At the most some schedule conflict but I'm sure it won't kill everything. If this one would finish first I would also hold if in releasing it until the original have finished.
Title: Re: Another Chain Game?
Post by: Zoltar on August 11, 2017, 08:48:27 AM
It sounds mondo intriguing to me, but I wasn't in this one at all so my gnarly opinion doesn't matter too much right?

As for the "More Cotent=Equals More Fun"  thing I'm going to say that depends on how hooked I am with the story. The first Chain Game 'Lost and Found' was fun but I didn't want anymore when the story was done, maybe a sequel or something with a new game ya know? But it was enough and because it's compact I can replay it easily and enjoy it all over again without too much comitment. Wrath of Gaia on the other hand I would love to have seen more content from in the game. Even though it's a looong game with loads to do it always feels like there could be even more time with those characters...but it does take sooooooooooo long to replay.  _sweat_ So I see what Momo is saying there.
Title: Re: Another Chain Game?
Post by: Momeka on August 14, 2017, 08:42:33 AM
I was bored and made the owl merchant from Wrath of Gaia, so if anyone feels like their chapter needs a bird-folk salesman feel free to use it.

(http://i.imgur.com/v2Sr2OT.gif)

(http://i.imgur.com/cyaqRYT.png)

Edit:
Made some additional save points if anyone wants.

(http://i.imgur.com/7dLT7He.png)

It also comes with a trap where a monster pops up: (http://i.imgur.com/kC7TdKS.gif)

Title: Re: Another Chain Game?
Post by: Zoltar on August 14, 2017, 01:10:53 PM
Owl duuuuude! I mondo love that guy! Shame I'm not making a chapter or I would totally use him.
Title: Re: Another Chain Game?
Post by: Fisherson on August 14, 2017, 05:45:06 PM
Owl man! I loved that in Wrath of Gaia. Personally probably is my favorite traveling shop idea of all time, though the masked dudes from JO werea close second. Boy wouldn't that be a nifty Death Battle only Charas people would get? XD

Wow! I love those save point ideas there, Red! Especially the Goblim and the Monster pop up XD Very clever expanding out the mimic idea from chests.
Title: Re: Another Chain Game?
Post by: Moosetroop11 on August 19, 2017, 02:59:54 AM
Yeah the saves are wicked... Is that how we're doing saving in this game all through? Great if so :)
Title: Re: Another Chain Game?
Post by: Fisherson on August 19, 2017, 11:23:13 PM
Yeah the saves are wicked... Is that how we're doing saving in this game all through? Great if so :)

Yep the save points are less static and very much awesome and alive in this game. I hope people continue to use them as they are an awesome asset and as Red just proved fun to mod.
Title: Re: Another Chain Game?
Post by: Orka on August 28, 2017, 05:45:56 AM
As I went through this topic and saw the graphics I was thinking about Mother 3. The art style resembles Mother 3 for me and that the game takes place in a modern environment (am I right?) also resemble the Earthbound series. I never played Mother or Mother 3 but I liked Earthbound. Now I am playing Wrath of Gaia and I enjoy it... okay I have to admit that I almost had a rage-quit-thing at the end of chapter 3 while trying to escape from that damn theatre XD but aside from that I really enjoy it. :)

Btw, here is a punk character I made using your templates:
(http://i.imgur.com/dFBJqd8.png) Battler:(http://i.imgur.com/bmltJek.png)
Title: Re: Another Chain Game?
Post by: Momeka on August 28, 2017, 12:45:17 PM
Orka: Looks great! I'll add it to the project.

Everyone: Dr.Ace won't be able to finish his chapter. So next up would be Donut! Are you free to take on a chapter?
Title: Re: Another Chain Game?
Post by: Donut on August 28, 2017, 05:30:43 PM
 Aww for Dr. Ace
Yeah that's all good for me :)

------------

Ok I received and played.
A few comments. Fish, your chapter is buggy as hell xD The end especially, after beating the African guy especially, black screen and nothing happens.
A lot of the passabilities don't work well, interactions with events as well.
Many typing mistakes as well, sometimes I don't quite know if they are intentional or not?
I'd like a recap of the story you tried to build as well because the explanations in the cave made little to no sense to me?
Other than that, the first part was easier than the first time I played it, which I thought was good, but I still think the enemies do too much damage, or the party not enough? Thanks for adding some skills though, it was needed imo.

I think I'll carry on with the initial idea I had, twerked a bit, after you sent me that story recap Fish xD
Title: Re: Another Chain Game?
Post by: Fisherson on August 28, 2017, 11:09:12 PM
As I went through this topic and saw the graphics I was thinking about Mother 3. The art style resembles Mother 3 for me and that the game takes place in a modern environment (am I right?) also resemble the Earthbound series. I never played Mother or Mother 3 but I liked Earthbound. Now I am playing Wrath of Gaia and I enjoy it... okay I have to admit that I almost had a rage-quit-thing at the end of chapter 3 while trying to escape from that damn theatre XD but aside from that I really enjoy it. :)

Btw, here is a punk character I made using your templates:
(http://i.imgur.com/dFBJqd8.png) Battler:(http://i.imgur.com/bmltJek.png)

Not a bad sprite, Orka! I am glad to hear somebody is still playing Wrath of Gaia too and don't worry we all rage quit that chapter at least once. XD If not seventy times. Moose is excellent at having a good brain busting puzzle in his chapters of any chain game but the first I think...I wonder if Moose actually did make a chapter? *Checks* Nope! =O Interesting! Oh and Orka if you go to play Juno's Odyssey  I would wait until you've gotten to at least the end of WoG. I'm working on a Director's Cut of JO that will be ten times better than the version we've got now which is missing side quests, has some annoying bugs and spelling errors.

Aww for Dr. Ace
Yeah that's all good for me :)

------------

Ok I received and played.
A few comments. Fish, your chapter is buggy as hell xD The end especially, after beating the African guy especially, black screen and nothing happens.
A lot of the passabilities don't work well, interactions with events as well.
Many typing mistakes as well, sometimes I don't quite know if they are intentional or not?
I'd like a recap of the story you tried to build as well because the explanations in the cave made little to no sense to me?
Other than that, the first part was easier than the first time I played it, which I thought was good, but I still think the enemies do too much damage, or the party not enough? Thanks for adding some skills though, it was needed imo.

I think I'll carry on with the initial idea I had, twerked a bit, after you sent me that story recap Fish xD

Traditionally you should address me in a PM so I can not reveal spoilers to the whole thread =P Yer a n00b though so I'll give ya a free pass and just address the stuff here:
Buggy stuff: Yeah I know there's a few minor bits though I must admit I didn't realize there was one in the african guy's cut scene o.O PM me and tell me which part specefically if you didn't fix it and I'll try and see if I can find a simple bandaid for ya. As for typing mistakes: they go woth the job son. I'm here working on JO: The Director's Cut three or so years latter and guess what? There's spelling and grammar issues in chapters I KNOW I checked. -.-; Tis something for the last guy to take care of in double checked final play before release. Just get the ones you want to or not. Doesn't matter.

On the Cave: That whole scene was explained by the characters. -.- Seriously I didn't half *** anything this time for once just stringing random things together.  Piece A connects to Piece B it's just the glue might give ya a little trip if you catch my meaning XD I always use ridicilum and craziness when writing just about anything. Example:
Wrath of Gaia my chapter was set finishing off what Moose laid down then you jump a huge monster and find yourself entering some kind of weird Myan temple thing chasing pirates. =P Just how I roll. I assure you Chain Games used to make ALLOT less sense, the first hero being a Samurai who always got lost and carried a giant axe for example. Lmao That being said I'd be happy to brief ya on the story plots I was building but honestly you can extrapolate in any direction ya like. ^_- Tis the beauty of a Chain Game. There's no wrong way to do it!
Title: Re: Another Chain Game?
Post by: Moosetroop11 on September 05, 2017, 07:01:27 PM
I wouldn't exactly call Donut a noob Fish, he's been on here a couple of years and has been an all around cool dude...
Title: Re: Another Chain Game?
Post by: Fisherson on September 06, 2017, 12:48:04 AM
I wouldn't exactly call Donut a noob Fish, he's been on here a couple of years and has been an all around cool dude...

N00b is not meant as a sign of disrespect when I use it. Usually I mean 'young' or 'new person'. I know many use n00b as an insult in gaming but I never was much for that except when playing TCGs which I took waaaaaaay too seriously. ^^; I do acknowledge I hadn't realized he had been around this forum quite that long. Time to discard his n00b card then. Only lasts a year at best.
Title: Re: Another Chain Game?
Post by: Donut on September 14, 2017, 03:08:15 AM
A quick update! I haven't been able to work on it full time, but I'm dedicating about 5h per week. I've planned everything I wanted to do, made or adapted most of the resources I needed, except that I can't seem to make satisfactory piano, sofas, and coffee machine. If someone feels lucky with doing them, please go ahed, because I'm losing my patience ahah.
I am now starting the eventing, it shouldn't take so long, hopefully.
Title: Re: Another Chain Game?
Post by: Momeka on September 14, 2017, 10:27:10 AM
I'm on it!
Title: Re: Another Chain Game?
Post by: Momeka on September 14, 2017, 11:16:50 AM
Today I discovered something about myself; I hate drawing coffee machines. Let me know if you need anything changed or more stuff.

(https://i.imgur.com/417oTZG.png)
Title: Re: Another Chain Game?
Post by: Donut on September 14, 2017, 01:24:55 PM
That's just perfect, thanks Momeka :)
Title: Re: Another Chain Game?
Post by: Fisherson on September 16, 2017, 01:03:00 AM
Today I discovered something about myself; I hate drawing coffee machines. Let me know if you need anything changed or more stuff.

(https://i.imgur.com/417oTZG.png)

That's an awesome couch, Red! Looks comfy enough for me to spread out on and take a nap. Lol

Keep it up, Donut! You are devoting more time then I did and probably have a better blue print. I need to log into my Imgur and give you those spare charasets I fixed. I'll be shooting them your way tomorrow if I can. Either way you're doing great!
Title: Re: Another Chain Game?
Post by: Momeka on September 16, 2017, 05:08:03 AM
Thanks Fish.

Also the last spot is free if anyone wants it. If not I'll do it, but I very much would prefer if each spot had a unique maker.
Title: Re: Another Chain Game?
Post by: Prpl_Mage on September 16, 2017, 09:09:22 AM
If no one else wants the last spot I'd be happy to take it
Title: Re: Another Chain Game?
Post by: Zoltar on September 16, 2017, 11:15:06 AM
Dude that stuff makes my furniture look like cheap crap....then again it's supposed to look that so yay! :3  Oh are we really on the last chapter? Gnarly! We'll get to play it soon then!
Title: Re: Another Chain Game?
Post by: Momeka on September 17, 2017, 01:53:37 AM
If no one else wants the last spot I'd be happy to take it

Cool!

Dude that stuff makes my furniture look like cheap crap....then again it's supposed to look that so yay! :3  Oh are we really on the last chapter? Gnarly! We'll get to play it soon then!

Nah, we're on chapter 3, so it still has some ways to go.
Title: Re: Another Chain Game?
Post by: Donut on September 18, 2017, 02:48:37 AM
Well the most I spent time on was doing a bit of extra resources, but most of them are just re-colours to be fair. I Have spent an entire week procrastinating as well, and another one figuring out what style I was going for, so out of the three week I had the game, I effectively worked on it only a week. I'm afraid the chapter won't be so long compared to the two others, but who knows, maybe the puzzles will be more complicated than I thought :)
Graphics-wise I have to do the intro, and some faces (although I might drop some faces for non-important characters). Other than that, just eventing.

@Fish: don't worry about it too much, there's already plenty of characters to do, and I found everything I wanted so far. :)
Title: Re: Another Chain Game?
Post by: Fisherson on September 19, 2017, 12:35:52 AM
Well I did say in my post in the message room to maybe only use facesets during 'cutscenes' and to minimize using them outside of big cinematics and such unless it's liek the save points and stuff. ^_^; Come to think of it I should have made call events for those. Would have been easier on the player. I am glad you found plenty of useful resources and don't need any and hey if your chapter is short but sweet no worries. The Chain games haven't always featured constantly unfolding chapters in the past and we are trying an experiment to see if we can beat the calendar this year after all. I worried I added too much potential story but I am terrible at writing something small. Still at least the point A to B setup I used was the smallest in my Chain Game career and mostly worked better than previous models, even Juno! X3 So a small mile stone can in fact be counted quite well. Quality over qaunity. I'll be honest though I kinda wish this story wouldn't end. It's really oddly so....empathic. It feels warm and yet with tinge of dark tone that suits it's Indie game look. Plus ya gotta love that party! <3
Title: Re: Another Chain Game?
Post by: Momeka on September 21, 2017, 12:16:19 PM
Sounds good, Donut. No one is expecting you to put your life on hold for this. Just make what you can, have fun with it and length doesn't really matter.
Title: Re: Another Chain Game?
Post by: Donut on September 29, 2017, 12:51:20 PM
Ok. So it's official, I hate computer.

Bad news, for some unknown reasons, Windows 10 decided that RM2k3 was a threat to the computer, and refuses to launch it again. I thought I managed to solve that by reinstalling RM2k3, it solved it for 30 seconds. Any exceptions on my firewall, antivirus or anything hasn't done any sh*t, so I can't finish the last few things I wanted to do. And since now I'm unemployed, I have no work computer to be able to deal with it.
Fortunately, I almost finished my chapter, as I have one common event to write (which is like a minimap and teleportations), remake a picture, add sounds, and I was planning a less abrupt ending scene. I can easily add the remade picture and sounds in the folder without going through the software, but I cannot do that last common event nor change the ending. So I'm stuck there. I can easily describe what was the plan (where to put the sounds, what was going to be the last sequence (I can actually just ditch that and make it more cliffhangy that way), how the minimap was working, and give a walkthrough for testing), make the image for the minimap bit, but i think that's about it :'(

Now I'd like to know WHY computers HATE ME SO MUCH?
I'm so very sorry, I am so tired of all those computer bullsh*t

 
Title: Re: Another Chain Game?
Post by: Momeka on September 30, 2017, 04:34:52 AM
I think this chain game might be cursed.

Have you updated to the latest version of rpg maker? Cause it seems other people been having the same issue (https://rpgmaker.net/forums/topics/17752/?post=832031#post832031) with it. There's no way to like white list it in the anti virus program or temporary turn the anti virus off while you work on it?

If not, send it to me and I'll see if I can do the last things for you.
Title: Re: Another Chain Game?
Post by: Donut on September 30, 2017, 06:21:13 AM
No, I haven't, I have used the unofficial version and 1.10. Both come with the problem. The official version doesn't have updates for the standalone version so I can't try on 1.11 or 1.12.
I've tried white listing, and w10 refuses me to turn off the antivirus - actually w10 has a built-in antimalware that it doesn't allow me to turn off either. I have literally no idea how to fix it. I remember it happening on my old w7 laptop, but I don't remember what happened after.

Let me finish the choice of music, and the pictures and I'll write stg on how i planned the last few bits. Sorry about that.
Title: Re: Another Chain Game?
Post by: Momeka on September 30, 2017, 10:23:01 AM
Yeah, just pm me when you're ready.
Title: Re: Another Chain Game?
Post by: Moosetroop11 on September 30, 2017, 04:49:08 PM
Standing by ready to do my chapter! Though now I'm a little scared of this curse...
Title: Re: Another Chain Game?
Post by: Fisherson on October 01, 2017, 10:42:06 PM
The Curse hasn't won yet, Moose! Go forth into battle armed with the knowledge that you eat curses for breakfast! >83 And if it should fell you? I will break my vow not to do another final chapter and break. it. like. bacon!! @U@
Title: Re: Another Chain Game?
Post by: Zoltar on October 08, 2017, 01:40:25 PM
Fish is getting mondo intense with this.  :o Males me want to play it even more mondo nowdo! 

                                             :Plight:  :happy:  :Plight: 
                              BREAK THE CURSE!! 

:frag: :para: :guns: :para: :guns: :frag: :para: C U R S E
Title: Re: Another Chain Game?
Post by: Momeka on October 08, 2017, 02:03:22 PM
Donuts chapter is done and I've sent the game to Moose.

Also took some extra time to try and balance the fights a bit in chapter 1. Fish, I had to change some of the resistances you had set up. Cause Joel was completely immune arcane damage while Sam took 3x the damage. Since most enemies in chapter 1 uses arcane attack it kinda messed up all the fights. Also I'm not sure if those elemental multipliers might be a bit too high, I had a really hard time trying to balance around it, cause either you did waaay too much damage or you did waaaay too little. But I didn't want to change them in fear of breaking your chapter.
Title: Re: Another Chain Game?
Post by: Moosetroop11 on October 10, 2017, 04:51:46 PM
Game received! :)

I'll do my best to be snappy with this, and keep you updated. I'll have some free time over the next few days so I'lll certainly be able to play through at the very least. I actually know barely anything about the game so I'm quite excited!
Title: Re: Another Chain Game?
Post by: Moosetroop11 on October 12, 2017, 07:17:06 AM
I ended up biting the bullet and buying the steam rm2k3 rather than shoving all the rtp in the files like I did last time.

So far so good! By which I mean I played Momeka's unbelievably awesome, I've payed money for worse games chapter. I especially love the secret spellbook, and the opening sequence.

I was a little way into Fish's chapter but innocently wandered into some water and got an instant game over, and since it'd been so long since I'd saved I ragequit : p I'll get back on it in a bit; I have today off work.

There are a few irritating bugs I might fix, whilst I'm here.

But yeah, opening, setting, the feel of the game, amazing.

UPDATE:

Ok, Fish. The fish are insanely strong. Please can I make them weaker? You've made it clear that you're supposed to fight them to get treasure but I've never been able to defeat a single one.

Something to note, there's a limit to how much text you can have in a message box that's not reflected in the actual limits in the editor. If you like, I can go through and try to sort out the dialogue where the text cuts off, because half the stuff you've written cuts off and you can't actually read the last word or two.

EDIT EDIT: Also requesting permission to make the log pirates weaker. How high were your characters levels when you could beat them? I can't actually imagine a player ever managing to do it on any reasonable level. Or are they just supposed to be completely unbeatable?

EDIT EDIT EDIT: OK! I've played the game all the way through!  I like the setting of your chapter Donut, though I admit I had to cheat a few times to work out what to do.

I can honestly say I have no idea what to do next :S I'll give it some thought and tell you if I'm struggling... Oh yeah one more thing Fish I think there needs to be the ability to retreat from your puzzle room and go back, as the player has just come from a lot of battles and has no option to heal. I had one KO party member and one poisoned on 1HP, and I basically had to hold down ctrl as there was no possible way to heal. I did like the crystal puzzle overall though, I thought it was neat.

Anyway cool work everyone and I'll see what I can do!
Title: Re: Another Chain Game?
Post by: Prpl_Mage on October 12, 2017, 12:56:33 PM
Good to hear the game is progressing and all that. Good luck with your chapter
Title: Re: Another Chain Game?
Post by: Fisherson on October 12, 2017, 11:27:19 PM
@Red
Change whatever you need to! We always have a backup in case you break my chapter. That's how I managed not to break yours after all.

XD Oh that water trap. I really should have added a teleport event. The Fish are only super strong if you let them multiply. Really you don't even need that treasure but if I remember right there's a super quick way to beat them like most of my enemies.  Lemme put down Skyrim and take a look at it and see if I can find it and PM it to you. The Log Pirates beat you??? o-o; They weren't meant to be so tough. I was around level nine I think. I did have most of my best gear or at least a good strategy. But feel free to knock them down a 'peg' or two. ^_-

Yeah it's cause I had to stop using the TES. =/ Couldn't figure out how to have enemies moving and keep my Crystal puzzle in tact too, and as you noted it was one of my best yet right? I was, and still continue to be, proud of that thing. I did latter think about how in Brave Fencer Musashi sometimes an Ooze would drop on the player from above and of adding rocks that seem to stay still until you hit a certain tile then they come to life and jump at you using the movement style Purps had the Spidoids use in JO. Alas it was already in Donut's hands when I realized these wonderful ways to tweak the TES. -.-;

As for not healing feel free to add another healing skill but Joel and Naomi both have at least one and I had TONS of healing items I left in place in my chapter. I think I had medical and food for sure.

Title: Re: Another Chain Game?
Post by: Donut on October 20, 2017, 09:44:53 AM
EDIT EDIT EDIT: OK! I've played the game all the way through!  I like the setting of your chapter Donut, though I admit I had to cheat a few times to work out what to do.

Glad you like it! My initial idea wasn't so different from that, Fish kinda pushed more idea to me for that in his long PM ;)
I'm really greteful to Momeka to having finished it for me, he fixed a very annoying bug,  made the final sequence which looks soooo good, and one of the systems. I feel like he's made the chapter for me ahah. Sorry >.<
I haven't been able to reopen RM2k3 to make anything out of it, so I think I'll dump it for good forever, which makes me a bit sad as it was the first engine I used.
Title: Re: Another Chain Game?
Post by: Zoltar on October 21, 2017, 11:16:50 AM
Quote
  Fish kinda pushed more idea to me for that in his long PM 

 :blush: You guys have mondo interesting PMs compared to my inbox! As for ditching 2k3 I would get rid of Tsukuru too. It is far inferior to the steam pressed RM2003. The only thing that made it good was the Cherry Mods and those don't always work.  _sweat_

Title: Re: Another Chain Game?
Post by: Moosetroop11 on November 11, 2017, 08:48:06 PM
Hey all, checking in to say I've been steadily working on this - sorry it's taking a while, but I have a busy life. I'm genuinely working on it, and haven't been getting stuck or anything, so it should be ready in about two weeks. Probably.
Title: Re: Another Chain Game?
Post by: Fisherson on November 12, 2017, 01:12:56 AM
Hey all, checking in to say I've been steadily working on this - sorry it's taking a while, but I have a busy life. I'm genuinely working on it, and haven't been getting stuck or anything, so it should be ready in about two weeks. Probably.

Well how dare you have a personal life, Moose! Who the heck do you think you are? Don't you know your existence and value in the community is solely based on making this RPG? You are nothing the RPG is everything! We will play it a long time after we have forgotten who you talking moose cameo in Juno's Odyssey is supposed represent! XO Now back to work, you lazy coat rack!


=p
Title: Re: Another Chain Game?
Post by: Prpl_Mage on November 12, 2017, 03:31:46 AM

Don't sweat it!
Title: Re: Another Chain Game?
Post by: Momeka on November 12, 2017, 03:44:48 AM
Hey all, checking in to say I've been steadily working on this - sorry it's taking a while, but I have a busy life. I'm genuinely working on it, and haven't been getting stuck or anything, so it should be ready in about two weeks. Probably.

Good to hear!
Title: Re: Another Chain Game?
Post by: Moosetroop11 on December 03, 2017, 10:59:54 AM
It was more like three weeks, but I have finished!!!

I ended up having to just cut off, because I was getting too into it and wanted to put so many plot ideas in that the deadline lateness was going to get silly.

I shall get this to the next person along!
Title: Re: Another Chain Game?
Post by: Momeka on December 04, 2017, 01:00:51 AM
Sounds awesome. But send it to me pekade, so I have a back up.
Title: Re: Another Chain Game?
Post by: Prpl_Mage on December 06, 2017, 06:34:50 PM
Got the game and it's great. Just need to find a good way to end this
Title: Re: Another Chain Game?
Post by: Momeka on December 07, 2017, 02:47:05 AM
Awesome! I've given other a loose five weeks deadline, but I figured since you're last and Christmas and all is coming up just take the time you need.

Ignore the lack of title screen, I'll code one up when the game is done. And once you're done send it to me and we'll begin the bug fixing round!
Title: Re: Another Chain Game?
Post by: Fisherson on December 07, 2017, 03:18:40 AM
Old Man Time: "You charas whiper snappers will never beat me! You ain't got a prayer of finishing by the deadline!" *Raises Scythe* Now prepare for-" Deafening crack. "Owww my back!"
 Thanks Obamacare!" He says dropping the scythe.

Fish: *Twirls crowbar* "Go for it Purps! Defeat time itself and prove Purple Magic is best magic! "^o^

In all seriousness I'd help you come up with a way to end it but I kinda want to be surprised for once this go around.
Title: Re: Another Chain Game?
Post by: Moosetroop11 on December 07, 2017, 08:16:42 AM
Oh yeah it's worth noting that I slightly screwed up the 'Max' charset colours with my dodgy way of sprite editing so someone might want to fix that before release. Sorry >_>
Title: Re: Another Chain Game?
Post by: Fisherson on December 07, 2017, 11:04:09 AM
Oh yeah it's worth noting that I slightly screwed up the 'Max' charset colours with my dodgy way of sprite editing so someone might want to fix that before release. Sorry >_>

-.- Why were you editing the colors and which set? I still have copies of his old sets for BC, chara sets and the special moves I made.
Title: Re: Another Chain Game?
Post by: Zoltar on December 07, 2017, 11:21:51 AM
Replay the mundo awesome game, mage brosef! The answer will come to you....

Or just go for a crazy twist at the end! Or make multiple alternate endings or make an ending that wraps nothing up and in fact betrays everything the player and party have worked for. 😈

Whatever you do we will happily take.
Title: Re: Another Chain Game?
Post by: Prpl_Mage on December 16, 2017, 10:44:46 AM
Okay so small update. My computer crashed and all versions of the game went missing with it. There was a fire and there are also bunnies all over my screen and Norwegian Internet Terrorists are threatening to close down our website... Or not. There is no curse dummies (yes I am jinxing this).

Chapter progress is going smooth. I'm prioritizing progress over resources however. Especially where I feel that something can be edited afterwards to fix it / make it sweeter. This also means that I'm leaving out the busts for now. I've asked around for some resources, hopefully that will help me stay on track.
So far around 1/5th of the plan done. Either I make it on time or I narrow down the plan, but no obstacles in the way at the moment.
Title: Re: Another Chain Game?
Post by: Donut on December 16, 2017, 05:28:25 PM
Good to know it's working well, for at least some of us ahah :)

Looking forward to seeing what was done anyways, I was going to suggest I could make a french version of it and showcase it to some french communities if you guys want this. I think I recall a small software that was doing the replacement automatically, or at least dumping all the text for easier translations.

I hope I can fix that rm2k3 problem at some point to carry on working on future chaingames.
Title: Re: Another Chain Game?
Post by: Fisherson on December 19, 2017, 01:20:23 AM
Purps....You HAD to mock the curse and guess what? It struck back. RM Steam recently went through an update that allows pictures to be run in battle and dies some other near stuff but for some reason when I upgraded the CCG to it will now no longer delete the opening mini game scores and huds. -.-;;  TEMPT NOT THE CURSE!!
Title: Re: Another Chain Game?
Post by: Momeka on December 19, 2017, 07:19:22 AM
Pretty sure I had that update when I finished the stuff on Donuts chapter and it worked for me then : /

For some reason it probably set the images not to be destroyed on map change. It's just a check box to tick in on the show picture command. Should be an easy enough fix if it's in purples version.
Title: Re: Another Chain Game?
Post by: Prpl_Mage on December 19, 2017, 03:08:49 PM
Pretty sure I had that update when I finished the stuff on Donuts chapter and it worked for me then : /

For some reason it probably set the images not to be destroyed on map change. It's just a check box to tick in on the show picture command. Should be an easy enough fix if it's in purples version.

Pretty sure that problem wasn't in the game when I played it.
Title: Re: Another Chain Game?
Post by: Zoltar on December 22, 2017, 04:29:28 PM
Mr Purple Guy killed the curse now ON WITH THE GAME!! Some if us mondo hope it can beat the new year's deadline for once so it will inspire even more!  ;D
Title: Re: Another Chain Game?
Post by: Prpl_Mage on December 23, 2017, 10:05:35 AM
Mr Purple Guy killed the curse now ON WITH THE GAME!! Some if us mondo hope it can beat the new year's deadline for once so it will inspire even more!  ;D

Heh, don't get your hopes up Fish. Still pretty far off and I doubt I'll manage to do all that remains in 8 days.
Title: Re: Another Chain Game?
Post by: Fisherson on December 26, 2017, 01:28:20 PM
Heh, don't get your hopes up Fish. Still pretty far off and I doubt I'll manage to do all that remains in 8 days.

Fish?! How can you mistake that suffer boi for the one and only Rogue Jedi?! XP In any case somebody I know on Discord gave me Divinity Original Sin Enhanced Eddition so I got a lite side tracked. Ye shall have yer sets tonight if I can keep myself away from it...
Title: Re: Another Chain Game?
Post by: Prpl_Mage on December 28, 2017, 04:09:59 PM
Fish?! How can you mistake that suffer boi for the one and only Rogue Jedi?! XP In any case somebody I know on Discord gave me Divinity Original Sin Enhanced Eddition so I got a lite side tracked. Ye shall have yer sets tonight if I can keep myself away from it...

Oops.


Anyway, around 2/5th done so far. Might be able to make the rest in time but we'll see. I will still not be done before January anyway.
Had a bit of a flow but am now in a bit of flunk instead. Should be fine though

I think the end will be fine, I might've gone in with too much planned though. Maybe I'll cut some more corners.
Title: Re: Another Chain Game?
Post by: Prpl_Mage on January 04, 2018, 11:02:34 AM
So I'm pretty sure I passed the 4th week just now. A big thanks to those of you who have helped me out with stuff.

I should be able to finish the game on time unless something unexpected happens.
Title: Re: Another Chain Game?
Post by: Fisherson on January 04, 2018, 11:13:00 PM
Yoi are most welcome but Back up the back ups. Just in case the non-existent curse strikes...
Title: Re: Another Chain Game?
Post by: Donut on January 05, 2018, 07:44:18 AM
Woop, looking forward to seeing what you did :)
Title: Re: Another Chain Game?
Post by: Prpl_Mage on January 11, 2018, 02:37:31 PM
Okay so not really done just yet. Working on the final dungeon and scenes.
Then I need a quick bug check and a complete playthrough most likely to make sure I didn't screw something up.
Title: Re: Another Chain Game?
Post by: Momeka on January 11, 2018, 03:23:20 PM
Cool, cool. Once you're ready send it over to me and I'll do the title screen + after credits minigame. And after that we start a final bug fixing round so people can do small tweaks and bug fixes on their chapters.
Title: Re: Another Chain Game?
Post by: Fisherson on January 13, 2018, 02:31:11 PM
Cool, cool. Once you're ready send it over to me and I'll do the title screen + after credits minigame. And after that we start a final bug fixing round so people can do small tweaks and bug fixes on their chapters.

Aye. I had a small list of little things I'd changebabput mine,starting with discarding the random encounters in the cave and replacing them with a swoop down encounter and rock mimicry code I found in a favorite Pokemon fan game.
Title: Re: Another Chain Game?
Post by: Prpl_Mage on January 18, 2018, 08:26:58 AM
Okay so the game is finished, sent it to Momeka.

Took a week longer than expected but I think it turned out great. Gonna take some screenshots and upload them here.
Title: Re: Another Chain Game?
Post by: Momeka on January 18, 2018, 12:05:48 PM
That's awesome. I'll start fixing the last few stuff next week.
Title: Re: Another Chain Game?
Post by: Moosetroop11 on January 18, 2018, 03:45:50 PM
Wooooo!!!

Oh yeah, on Prpl's suggestion I had another 'frame by frame' scene or two I was working on for possible inclusion but I don't really mind if we don't get them in (they're about half done). They might not end up fitting anyway...
Title: Re: Another Chain Game?
Post by: Prpl_Mage on January 19, 2018, 04:17:15 AM
Pics for all!

(http://i65.tinypic.com/juhd86.png)
(http://i68.tinypic.com/2vhw0te.png)
(http://i65.tinypic.com/1075caw.png)
(http://i64.tinypic.com/2n99wya.png)
(http://i64.tinypic.com/nl274h.png)
(http://i68.tinypic.com/351ti6c.png)
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(http://i67.tinypic.com/2jdjpdk.png)
Title: Re: Another Chain Game?
Post by: Fisherson on January 19, 2018, 08:15:07 PM
Oh gosh for once my screens actually match the style of the game and look like they aren't mashed together and junk! TuT I'm actually proud enough to shed a tear!
Title: Re: Another Chain Game?
Post by: Prpl_Mage on January 21, 2018, 03:32:58 AM
More pics
(http://i66.tinypic.com/2uhygyt.png)
(http://i63.tinypic.com/2rgz6fm.png)
(http://i64.tinypic.com/mtb1ub.png)
(http://i64.tinypic.com/x0z9yp.png)
(http://i67.tinypic.com/ayveyc.png)
(http://i67.tinypic.com/2eq8fv6.png)
Title: Re: Another Chain Game?
Post by: Momeka on January 21, 2018, 11:23:13 AM
Hey guys. I've started working on the game now. So far I fixed a couple of bugs in chapter 1 and made the title screen. Still need to play through the game and make the post credit mini game. It will probably take one to two weeks before I'm done.

Here's the title screen:

(https://i.imgur.com/qQp1Zls.gif)
Title: Re: Another Chain Game?
Post by: Prpl_Mage on January 21, 2018, 12:48:48 PM
That looks rad, I'm glad that they allowed custom title screens.
Title: Re: Another Chain Game?
Post by: Donut on January 21, 2018, 02:09:29 PM
 Really nice! You did so much for the game Momeka, I feel like I hardly did anything in comparison. You rock (many poneys)
 :Plight:
Title: Re: Another Chain Game?
Post by: Fisherson on January 22, 2018, 02:15:33 PM
Well now didn't you come through in a big way Red! I love how complimentary and stylish it looks. Donut is right you did 90% of the work or more. Though it hi-lights one has fact:  I am unable to do custom time sets. =< I need fix this before the next chain game. Also may I say this style was such a delight we should use it again? Cause it was.
Title: Re: Another Chain Game?
Post by: Momeka on January 22, 2018, 03:16:11 PM
Glad you guys like it, but you're giving me way too much credit. A lot of people (including yourselves) have dedicated a lot of energy and time to make this game what it is. Each person bringing their own strengths and views on games to the table. And I think we have done a great job with it. I'm very pleased with the results.

Also may I say this style was such a delight we should use it again?

Yeah, been thinking the same thing actually. Thinking we could compile all the resources we made for the game and put it up in a gallery thread. If we continue to make chain games in this still we could fill up the gallery with more stuff. In the end we'll have big library of resources to use for our games.


Anyway, I've started playing the game. So far I haven't reached any parts I haven't played before. I'll write down notes, bugs, and such as I go along.
Title: Re: Another Chain Game?
Post by: Prpl_Mage on January 23, 2018, 10:09:49 AM
Damn, so not in the clear yet.

More pics

(http://i65.tinypic.com/4h6xs6.png)
(http://i64.tinypic.com/n1a1z7.png)
(http://i67.tinypic.com/20uzs3q.png)
(http://i63.tinypic.com/idfvpf.png)
Title: Re: Another Chain Game?
Post by: Fisherson on January 23, 2018, 02:36:28 PM
Yay Shanon was used! I'm happy for that. I also agree with Red's idea of a Chain Game Resource database full of potential pre-generated  resources. It'll help people who have a hard time with one specific type or it'll be like my own massive resource database. I sometimes look through it and even though I see things that work? I get inspired to think of an idea for a chapter at the least.
Title: Re: Another Chain Game?
Post by: Momeka on January 24, 2018, 03:44:16 AM
Sorry guys, life intervened. Might take a little longer than planned.
Title: Re: Another Chain Game?
Post by: Zoltar on January 25, 2018, 02:31:52 AM
It looks mondo stylish guys! Nice work! Cannot wait to play it!
Title: Re: Another Chain Game?
Post by: Momeka on January 26, 2018, 05:53:35 PM
Hey, small update. I've started playing the game again. And just finished chapter 4. And damn Moose, it was really fun. I really liked the intro and the dungeon design was fun too.

I also fixed some stuff as I went along.

Chapter 1:
- Some random bugs here and there.
- Some broken monster encounters.
- Some spelling mistakes.
- Tweaked some maps
- Might have also added another secret area.

Chapter 2:
- I think I managed to fix all the broken collision stuff
- Fixed some map tiling in the forest map and the outside glimmer cave area.
- Fixed some decorating events that had the wrong layer on them

Still needs to be fixed:
- Spelling mistakes here and there
- Maybe add a save point after the goblim village. Really annoying if you die before you reach the lodge and have to rewatch everything.

Chapter 3:
- Fixed so you can't pick up infinitely coins and pens
- Made sleeping animations for the guards.
- Made custom character art for "Bert the Perv" + Distraction animations for him and the doctor
- Shaded the trees to fit in with the rest of the art better
- Added occasional glimmer effects to mark places with pick ups. (Dunno about this one, might be making it too easy. But personally I just find it really frustrating to hunt for items. Donut, let me know if you want me to remove these again)

Chapter 4:
- Fixed the collision on a box
- Fixed a decoration event with the wrong layer

Overall notes & bugs:
- Red Eyes C-stance should maybe be nerfed. Feels way too powerful to reflect every spell. Right now it also reflects spells that targets the whole party and nullifies all the damage. It completely removed all the challenge from the chapter 4 boss.
- If you use the Unity Charm while in the party selection map you will be stuck there forever.


The plan is to finish playing the game this weekend. Should be totally doable.
Title: Re: Another Chain Game?
Post by: Prpl_Mage on January 26, 2018, 06:06:12 PM
Overall notes & bugs:
- Red Eyes C-stance should maybe be nerfed. Feels way too powerful to reflect every spell. Right now it also reflects spells that targets the whole party and nullifies all the damage. It completely removed all the challenge from the chapter 4 boss.
- If you use the Unity Charm while in the party selection map you will be stuck there forever.

Yeah I should have added a fail chance or mp cost to the counter when I had the game, realized it a bit too late and didn't want to change all my encounters. Sorry.
Didn't think about that unity charm thing.
Title: Re: Another Chain Game?
Post by: Momeka on January 26, 2018, 06:24:16 PM
Yeah I should have added a fail chance or mp cost to the counter when I had the game, realized it a bit too late and didn't want to change all my encounters. Sorry.

No worries, I can take a look at it later.
Title: Re: Another Chain Game?
Post by: Moosetroop11 on January 27, 2018, 01:25:12 PM
You should be able to prevent the menu opening in party selection which'll fix the unity charm thing : )

I'm glad you liked my chapter! I was trying really hard not to be lazy and did a lot more spriting this time...

Very excited to play the final thing. Looks like prpl did a lot of work from the screenshots.
Title: Re: Another Chain Game?
Post by: Momeka on January 27, 2018, 03:50:31 PM
You should be able to prevent the menu opening in party selection which'll fix the unity charm thing : )

Oh yeah, that's way easier than what I had in mind >>

Small update: On chapter 5. And damn purple, been playing it for a couple of hours now and judging from what's in the editor I'm not even half way through. So far I'm really liking it. The slums turned out great and was really fun to explore!
Title: Re: Another Chain Game?
Post by: Momeka on January 28, 2018, 12:52:55 PM
I played through the chain game. And god damn, prpl. I have no clue how you did so much in such a short time. Doing all the side things and chapter 5 is waay longer than all other chapters combined. Not sure how many hours I put into it.

Along the way I fixed:
- Went over some maps and made some additional tiles that I felt was missing + updated the maps with them.
- Fixed spelling mistakes where I encountered them.
- Fixed minor bugs where I encountered them.

Things that still needs to be fixed:
- "Way of the Kick" skill on Sam can't be used and I can't figure out why.
- Some pushable boxes doesn't have "Skip if cannot move" checked, so if you push them into a wall the game freezes. I've gone over and fixed the ones I found. But it would be good to double check so I haven't missed one.
- When you take the lift in spring city the player sprite changes into Sam and Joel with a backpack moves out of him.
- Sharon remains outside of the Asylum after you finished her sidequest.
- After you beaten the TV Station questline and return to Spring City the lift takes you back to the middle section of the map instead of the lower city.
- In the first cutscene with the thugs and in the cutscene at the battle at the TV Station some of the characters moves really jerky. Looks like they move with a low frequency but a high speed.

I can maybe try and go in and fix some of these, but can't really promise anything. I'm gonna do a credits scene for after the game and the after credits mini game now. Really need to try and finish it in a week. Can't really put that much more time into it, got another game to finish up at work that's being released in two months. So going to have to put some long hours into that one. It will have to take priority over the chain game.
So the goal is to get it out for the bug fixing round by the end of next week.
Title: Re: Another Chain Game?
Post by: Prpl_Mage on January 28, 2018, 01:08:32 PM
I played through the chain game. And god damn, prpl. I have no clue how you did so much in such a short time. Doing all the side things and chapter 5 is waay longer than all other chapters combined. Not sure how many hours I put into it.
Thanks, I hope it feels relevant as well. Couldn't have made it in time without the help from you and the rest though.

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- "Way of the Kick" skill on Sam can't be used and I can't figure out why.
I forgot to check the box "elemental defense"
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- Some pushable boxes doesn't have "Skip if cannot move" checked, so if you push them into a wall the game freezes. I've gone over and fixed the ones I found. But it would be good to double check so I haven't missed one.
This was one of the last things I noticed as well. I thought I had taken care of them all but I guess I missed some.
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- When you take the lift in spring city the player sprite changes into Sam and Joel with a backpack moves out of him.
- Sharon remains outside of the Asylum after you finished her sidequest.
Yeah I never really got around to fix those
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- After you beaten the TV Station questline and return to Spring City the lift takes you back to the middle section of the map instead of the lower city.
Damn, I thought I added the switch in the TV station cutscene. 217 should be set to ON.
Quote
- In the first cutscene with the thugs and in the cutscene at the battle at the TV Station some of the characters moves really jerky. Looks like they move with a low frequency but a high speed.
That could be the case, I noticed this as well but never figured out where I went wrong.

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I can maybe try and go in and fix some of these, but can't really promise anything. I'm gonna do a credits scene for after the game and the after credits mini game now. Really need to try and finish it in a week.
I feel like the things you've mentioned are all part of my chapter so send the game back to me when you are done and I can take another look so you can focus on your own thing.
Title: Re: Another Chain Game?
Post by: Momeka on January 28, 2018, 02:09:59 PM
Thanks, I hope it feels relevant as well. Couldn't have made it in time without the help from you and the rest though.

Oh yeah, without going into any spoilers, I love what you did with all the story and all the side quests. Also loved the variation of the places you visit throughout the chapter.

I feel like the things you've mentioned are all part of my chapter so send the game back to me when you are done and I can take another look so you can focus on your own thing.

Yeah, those where just the notes from chapter 5. Think I managed to fix the ones I encountered in other chapters along the way. But still figured we do a round and send the game to everyone again so people can go through their chapters and fix stuff they find. Figured we start in the other they are unless someone is under time pressure than we can probably fibble with the order.
Title: Re: Another Chain Game?
Post by: Donut on January 28, 2018, 03:51:08 PM
Waw you did some amazing job bug fixing!
With what you say on prpl chapter, I can't wait to play it :3

I have no problems with the changes, actually with the item hunting I thought of doing it for some of them because they were a bit hardcore to find ahah. You probably ended doing more of my chapter than  I did (damn windows), so I feel guilty, and I think for the title screen you should add your name with mine!
I have managed to reinstall rm2k3 by switching back to w7 and not w10 (and God I did good, w10 is real sh*t), so I'll bs able to do some fixing and maybe add a thing or two I had in mind but couldn't do (and redo the title screen of my Chapter, it's horrid xD).
Title: Re: Another Chain Game?
Post by: Momeka on January 29, 2018, 02:46:42 PM
Small update: Finished the credits sequence. It's nothing super fancy but it works. "Just" the mini game left to do.

I think for the title screen you should add your name with mine!

Nah, that's fine. I didn't do that much. Besides it would be really hard to make it fit.

I have managed to reinstall rm2k3 by switching back to w7 and not w10 (and God I did good, w10 is real sh*t), so I'll bs able to do some fixing and maybe add a thing or two I had in mind but couldn't do (and redo the title screen of my Chapter, it's horrid xD).

Awesome! I'll include you in the bug fixing round. You'll be up after fish. Feel free to change anything I've done that you don't agree with.
Title: Re: Another Chain Game?
Post by: Momeka on February 02, 2018, 04:35:36 PM
Update: Haven't gotten as far as I had planned this week. Been distracted by work, but still going to try to make by the end of the week. Not sure I'll make it.

Anyway started working on the mini game

(https://i.imgur.com/qZbj9Gz.gif)

After that I still got some minor fixes I need to do in chapter 1.
Title: Re: Another Chain Game?
Post by: Fisherson on February 02, 2018, 05:23:50 PM
Looks like Kill, Die Dungeon has a sequel there. Again using the scan line overlay too. Loooove it! ^_^
Title: Re: Another Chain Game?
Post by: Prpl_Mage on February 03, 2018, 04:03:33 AM
Update: Haven't gotten as far as I had planned this week. Been distracted by work, but still going to try to make by the end of the week. Not sure I'll make it.

Anyway started working on the mini game

(https://i.imgur.com/qZbj9Gz.gif)

After that I still got some minor fixes I need to do in chapter 1.

That looks kickass, I was going to write that we could skip the mini game if it's too much work. But now that I've seen this I want to see more of it. Really love that HUD at the bottom.
Title: Re: Another Chain Game?
Post by: Momeka on February 03, 2018, 02:03:52 PM
Nice, glad you like it. The mini game is more or less done now. Just need to do some sort of intro for it. It ended up being 5 levels ( + an additional secret level).
Title: Re: Another Chain Game?
Post by: Moosetroop11 on February 03, 2018, 02:24:38 PM
Aaawesome : )
Title: Re: Another Chain Game?
Post by: Momeka on February 04, 2018, 10:02:59 AM
So I'm done. Next up on the bug fixing round is Fisherson. But I figured I'll send a copy to everyone so you all got time to play through the game and check if you need to change anything. But don't actually start changing stuff cause then you will have to redo it all when your turn comes up.
Title: Re: Another Chain Game?
Post by: Prpl_Mage on February 04, 2018, 02:03:57 PM
Applauds en mass Momeka. Good luck with your other project.
Title: Re: Another Chain Game?
Post by: Momeka on February 06, 2018, 01:40:55 PM
Thank you, prpl.

I'm a bit of a workaholic, I just can't stop. So I made itchio cover image:

(https://i.imgur.com/tn7yj5v.png)
Title: Re: Another Chain Game?
Post by: Fisherson on February 06, 2018, 02:24:51 PM
Thank you, prpl.

I'm a bit of a workaholic, I just can't stop. So I made itchio cover image:

(https://i.imgur.com/tn7yj5v.png)

OMG! Redeye and Booya look awesome in your style! XD Poor Shannon though! XD I think it looks very professional Red.
Title: Re: Another Chain Game?
Post by: Donut on February 06, 2018, 02:46:23 PM
Waw, amazing job as always! :O
Title: Re: Another Chain Game?
Post by: Momeka on February 10, 2018, 07:41:42 AM
I set up the games Itch.io (https://charas-project.itch.io/mystery-of-spring-valley?secret=uNpo7kl3VVsofDUZzXkEbS45PTk) page. It's not published yet, but once the game is done we just need to upload it and hit a button and it's up. Any feedback or misspellings?

Dr.Ace helped out with the description.
Title: Re: Another Chain Game?
Post by: Prpl_Mage on February 10, 2018, 09:27:12 AM
Diggin' it.
Title: Re: Another Chain Game?
Post by: Fisherson on February 10, 2018, 01:48:08 PM
I.....I am so proud of you guys. Seriously I didn't think anything could top J.O. ....and I have been so happy to be wrong.  :Plight: :D :Plight:


TuT Its beautiful from start to finish and I'm so happy everything that was contributed worked so well. I'm only going to add a few more things and correct two major bugs ,floating warp tile and a monster and chest that freeze the game, and the last of the extra animations for characters who use multiple skills with only one animation. Don't worry I'll hurry to try and be done by the end of the week as for once there is nothing I want to add...Short of one secret only those who study the lore can find. >=J

Oh but I am stumped as to how recruit Bliriff. If somebody wants to PM me I would appreciate it. ^_^
Title: Re: Another Chain Game?
Post by: Moosetroop11 on February 16, 2018, 09:19:55 PM
I'm also massively enjoying the playthrough : ) Part way through Prpl's chapter now.

With your blessing, I'll do a theme for Greyspire, which might fit it better than the Spring City Jazz?
Title: Re: Another Chain Game?
Post by: Prpl_Mage on February 17, 2018, 03:18:46 AM
I'm also massively enjoying the playthrough : ) Part way through Prpl's chapter now.

With your blessing, I'll do a theme for Greyspire, which might fit it better than the Spring City Jazz?

Go ahead, I didn't want to swamp you with music requests but there are some areas that might need a musical face job.
Title: Re: Another Chain Game?
Post by: Prpl_Mage on February 24, 2018, 03:20:52 AM
So is the game with Moose right now for his changes or where are we at? I hoped we would manage to have it completed before march but y'know.

Also, shameless marketing strategy. Could you guys upvote the artwork (screenshots) I uploaded on Steam? At least the awesome title screen,
Title: Re: Another Chain Game?
Post by: Momeka on February 24, 2018, 05:06:13 AM
Nope, still fish. He said he is finished, but won't be able to upload it until next week sometime.

Also I can upvote them, got a link?
Edit: Nvm, found them and upvoted them.
Title: Re: Another Chain Game?
Post by: Fisherson on March 05, 2018, 12:37:14 PM
I agree there's a few places where the music could use at least a remix, the final boss for example, but before all that my upload site vanished cause of space reasons. Can somebody give me a PM with a site that can handle about...143 MB? Also is free and don't require too much registering? If ya do I can send the Chain Game right now to to Red and Donut.

Never mind IT IS DONE Fish is not bragging but he got the game working. Thank you, Z for confirming that link works. <.< Do keep in mind that version I sent ya isn't complete so delete it if ya smart.
Title: Re: Another Chain Game?
Post by: Zoltar on March 05, 2018, 04:32:04 PM
Sorry Dave but she is mine to play now!  Mwahaha!  :hi: Oh the graphics are mondo cool!
Title: Re: Another Chain Game?
Post by: Moosetroop11 on March 12, 2018, 05:59:42 AM
Ok I'm currently in the Lake District but I'll happily still make a few extra tunes to finish this off (or I'm also happy to leave it alone, I think the game is great no matter what)

Who is the game now with? Have you sent it to Momeka, Fish?
Title: Re: Another Chain Game?
Post by: Momeka on March 12, 2018, 12:09:32 PM
Ok I'm currently in the Lake District but I'll happily still make a few extra tunes to finish this off (or I'm also happy to leave it alone, I think the game is great no matter what)

Who is the game now with? Have you sent it to Momeka, Fish?

Yeah, Donut has it at the moment. Probably be like a week or so before you're up.
Title: Re: Another Chain Game?
Post by: Prpl_Mage on March 13, 2018, 02:04:35 PM
Also, shameless marketing strategy. Could you guys upvote the artwork (screenshots) I uploaded on Steam? At least the awesome title screen,
Also I can upvote them, got a link?

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1278221957
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1274138421
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1274138107
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1274130790

So far only Momeka liked things. I mean seriously our cool stuff needs to reach the top of the page 'cuz right now this RTP cliffside (http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=437093624) is the most upvoted piece.


Title: Re: Another Chain Game?
Post by: Donut on March 14, 2018, 06:37:35 AM
Ok, so I've finished my round of bugfix (yay insomnia). I just need to change two pictures (one is a mispell of "Mystery" in the title screen, the other my own Chapter screen), and I'll be good to go. Fixed a few spelling mistakes when I found them.

How do you guys plan the balancing of battles? Do you do it once at the end or does everyone do it on his/her own chapter?
Title: Re: Another Chain Game?
Post by: Prpl_Mage on March 14, 2018, 08:47:44 AM
How do you guys plan the balancing of battles? Do you do it once at the end or does everyone do it on his/her own chapter?

I image the best result to be if one person does it.

Was there anything particular that crossed your mind? Might be good to know. Just send the game to Moose and Momeka when you are done.
Title: Re: Another Chain Game?
Post by: Donut on March 14, 2018, 09:45:21 AM
I was just wondering, because for what I remember, Momeka's chapter battles were less well balanced the first time I played, but Fish's are still highly undoable without some very serious grinding (which I think is not so good for one of the first chapters, and considering the length of the game - I ended up just skipping most of them in his chapter). So it seemed like Momeka balanced his chapter but Fish didn't do it for his, so I was confused.

I don't know how you guys usually balance your game. When I do battles, I consider 3 types of monster: weak mob, medium mobs, bosses/special mobs. Weak mobs should take 1 to 2 turns maximum (for the entire party, so if your party is made of only one character then it's equivalent to 2 strikes (3 if the monster is really weak and doesn't deal much damage), 4 if you have 2 characters in your team, etc...). Medium mobs, because they're tougher should take 1-2 extra turns to kill. As for bosses/special mobs, I try, contrary to the others, to make the player use more tactic (so use more the elements, conditions, etc), to make it so that the player has to try different approaches than just bashing the regular attack (of course I apply it as well to the other mobs, but the difference in damages will be less pronounced).

That is well made, IMO, now in Momeka's chapter:  most of the mobs we meet take about 2 turns to defeat, sometimes 3, and they don't deal as much damages as they used to in the first version I played, and sometimes you can be poisoned or paralysed.
In Fish's chapter, I often face 4 to 6 mobs, all able within a turn or two to put in sleep/pork/nomed/paralyse my entire party with almost 100% success rate (outchie). So I die in less than 2 battles. And there are an AWFUL lot of battles in Fish's chapter, which is also why I did not put any in my chapter. Since the messages do not pause the rest of the game, the bad guys have time to gather around you and if you don't escape one battle you're basically dead. Maybe I'm just bad at the game or I just don't have any luck and this concerns only me in this case xD

Aside from that, I thought the game overall was great.
Title: Re: Another Chain Game?
Post by: Prpl_Mage on March 14, 2018, 01:37:47 PM
I was just wondering, because for what I remember, Momeka's chapter battles were less well balanced the first time I played, but Fish's are still highly undoable without some very serious grinding (which I think is not so good for one of the first chapters, and considering the length of the game - I ended up just skipping most of them in his chapter). So it seemed like Momeka balanced his chapter but Fish didn't do it for his, so I was confused.

I don't know how you guys usually balance your game. When I do battles, I consider 3 types of monster: weak mob, medium mobs, bosses/special mobs. Weak mobs should take 1 to 2 turns maximum (for the entire party, so if your party is made of only one character then it's equivalent to 2 strikes (3 if the monster is really weak and doesn't deal much damage), 4 if you have 2 characters in your team, etc...). Medium mobs, because they're tougher should take 1-2 extra turns to kill. As for bosses/special mobs, I try, contrary to the others, to make the player use more tactic (so use more the elements, conditions, etc), to make it so that the player has to try different approaches than just bashing the regular attack (of course I apply it as well to the other mobs, but the difference in damages will be less pronounced).

That is well made, IMO, now in Momeka's chapter:  most of the mobs we meet take about 2 turns to defeat, sometimes 3, and they don't deal as much damages as they used to in the first version I played, and sometimes you can be poisoned or paralysed.
In Fish's chapter, I often face 4 to 6 mobs, all able within a turn or two to put in sleep/pork/nomed/paralyse my entire party with almost 100% success rate (outchie). So I die in less than 2 battles. And there are an AWFUL lot of battles in Fish's chapter, which is also why I did not put any in my chapter. Since the messages do not pause the rest of the game, the bad guys have time to gather around you and if you don't escape one battle you're basically dead. Maybe I'm just bad at the game or I just don't have any luck and this concerns only me in this case xD

Aside from that, I thought the game overall was great.

I agree with you, parts of the game might need some work. Not sure if that applies for my part as well. If you skip doing the two "side stories" the jump to the sewers might be a bit steep but each city offers new weapons and armors to help you out. As for monsters moving in messages, that can be turned off. The Text Setting command has an option "allow other events to move" that can be used to prevent that from happening.

Right now our game has some pretty darn high elemental resistance and weaknesses going on. meaning that most enemies has some sort of weakness.
Title: Re: Another Chain Game?
Post by: Fisherson on March 14, 2018, 03:32:38 PM
Why does everyone say my battles are unbalanced? I beat my whole chapter on fair at level 8-11. Now if you're talking about the wing wraith's new 'hide' mode? That's meant to be difficult. =P Though if you pay attention I use elemental balance so most are super weak to logically obvious stuff and some are super strong to it. My chapters are somewhat battle heavy I'll admit but this time I did add more puzzles and stuff to balance it out. Feel free to attempt to balance it though.
Title: Re: Another Chain Game?
Post by: Donut on March 15, 2018, 12:52:05 AM
Sorry Fish xD
As I said, when you face 3 battles in a row with 4-6 monsters able to put to sleep/freeze/nom/... all of your party in a turn, it's very frustrating because you can't do anything other than wait and die. Even though the other chapters can be somewhat challenging, I did not have this problem with them, even at a relatively lower level (since I ended up skipping most battles in your chapter). Once again, if I'm just the only one having trouble there, I should just reassess how good I am at JRPG xD
Title: Re: Another Chain Game?
Post by: Zoltar on March 18, 2018, 02:18:52 AM
I like the way Donut talks about how mobs are balanced! I don't do that. I usually just make whatever I like and let the player figure it out or have the party and NPC characters give you hints. It's mondo mean I know but most of my enemies are there to give you EXP and Money and look cool. Bosses  Mini Bosses should always be more though. There should be a uniqueness to their battles that either leaves you screaming out their name in frustration or makes you want to do it again. In this maker it can be mega hard to make that though.   ::)
Title: Re: Another Chain Game?
Post by: Moosetroop11 on March 18, 2018, 05:58:39 AM
Why does everyone say my battles are unbalanced?
I'll give you an example, Fish. When the Goblims take your chainsaw parts, each battle can take like a quarter of your time limit so if you don't pick the right groups you're done for :p I had to grind a lot for you chapter even after I went in and made the water enemies weaker. Also I made a way out of your cave because there was originally no exit so once you're in there, if someone dies, you have absolutely no way to bring them back haha
Title: Re: Another Chain Game?
Post by: Momeka on March 18, 2018, 07:52:50 AM
Sorry for being so inactive, been preoccupied with work. Where is the chain game at right now? Are you done Donut and if so have you passed it along?


Why does everyone say my battles are unbalanced?

Well, it's kinda the whole point of play testing something. You as the creator will always know the best routes and enemies weaknesses etc. Which makes it hard to get an objective view on how difficult it would be for a new player.
And yeah, I spent like half an hour of grinding to be able to get pass the whole item hunt part. Even after that I found all the water battles to still be way too hard, so I never explored that area.
Title: Re: Another Chain Game?
Post by: Fisherson on March 18, 2018, 04:52:38 PM
I used the chain saw parts timer based on how long it took me to do it. Maybe it should be more than 8 mins? Seemed too easy then but then again. I know where they all are roughly and which skills will cripple Tinheads and which paths will slow you to circumvent the tedious courses.

The water battles were meant to be harder because there's free money vouchers and a unique piece of armor there.

I am pleased nobody complained about Olokun in all of this though XD Nice to design a good challenging but not impossible boss?
Title: Re: Another Chain Game?
Post by: Prpl_Mage on March 18, 2018, 08:22:27 PM
I used the chain saw parts timer based on how long it took me to do it. Maybe it should be more than 8 mins? Seemed too easy then but then again. I know where they all are roughly and which skills will cripple Tinheads and which paths will slow you to circumvent the tedious courses.

Well that is probably not the case for a new player. And since you suggest the player to save right before that part - big chance that they can't grind and will get stuck as well.
I managed to beat like 2 groups before the time ran out, made the deduction that those boxes will not be the right ones when I reload either. And then moved on.
But the fact that the tinhead archers has a pretty neat chance to freeze 2 out of 3 characters at the start of the battle is kinda annoying.

And like everyone else mentioned, had to grind to stand a chance against everything you said 8-11, I didn't grind that much. Also ended up taking the treasures from the water by escaping.

Well, it's kinda the whole point of play testing something. [...] to get an objective view on how difficult it would be for a new player.

Also this
Title: Re: Another Chain Game?
Post by: Donut on March 19, 2018, 05:44:48 AM
Sorry for being so inactive, been preoccupied with work. Where is the chain game at right now? Are you done Donut and if so have you passed it along?


Well, it's kinda the whole point of play testing something. You as the creator will always know the best routes and enemies weaknesses etc. Which makes it hard to get an objective view on how difficult it would be for a new player.
And yeah, I spent like half an hour of grinding to be able to get pass the whole item hunt part. Even after that I found all the water battles to still be way too hard, so I never explored that area.

I'm not done yet, I'll finish it tonight, then will upload and send it back to you and Moose tomorrow. I have put the "pause" of messages  so that in Fish's chapter the enemy can't just gather around you while you speak. I can't seem to make my Chapter image better, I should take some drawing courses xD
Title: Re: Another Chain Game?
Post by: Momeka on March 19, 2018, 11:50:31 AM
I'm not done yet, I'll finish it tonight, then will upload and send it back to you and Moose tomorrow. I have put the "pause" of messages  so that in Fish's chapter the enemy can't just gather around you while you speak. I can't seem to make my Chapter image better, I should take some drawing courses xD

Sounds good!
Title: Re: Another Chain Game?
Post by: Donut on March 20, 2018, 04:42:57 AM
Just sent it to you guys :)
Enjoy!
Title: Re: Another Chain Game?
Post by: Momeka on March 21, 2018, 11:48:02 AM
Just sent it to you guys :)
Enjoy!

Looks good, Donut.

Moose, you're up next.
Title: Re: Another Chain Game?
Post by: Moosetroop11 on March 27, 2018, 05:17:41 PM
Sorry guys I didn't see this as I've been pretty busy! Will add some tunes over the next few days and send on. Can anyone thibk of anything in particular that they'd like a theme on, or any change needed in my section? Is the sidequest to open the locked door in the high rise too difficult for instance?

EDIT: I fixed the glimmer cave teleport bug ^_^
Title: Re: Another Chain Game?
Post by: Donut on March 29, 2018, 08:53:47 AM
Had no problems in your chapter.

EDIT: I fixed the glimmer cave teleport bug ^_^

Woo. You have to tell me where the problem was now, or I'll never sleep again xD
Title: Re: Another Chain Game?
Post by: Momeka on March 29, 2018, 01:59:22 PM
I don't think I found any bugs in your chapter. Play through it to be sure, see if you want to change anything if not just pass it on.

If you want to do music it would be pretty sweet with a custom title song instead of some random chiptune.
Title: Re: Another Chain Game?
Post by: Fisherson on March 30, 2018, 11:38:53 AM
Sorry guys I didn't see this as I've been pretty busy! Will add some tunes over the next few days and send on. Can anyone thibk of anything in particular that they'd like a theme on, or any change needed in my section? Is the sidequest to open the locked door in the high rise too difficult for instance?

EDIT: I fixed the glimmer cave teleport bug ^_^

All hail Moose! All hail Moose! All hail Moose! All hail Moose! All hail Moose! All hail Moose! All hail Moose! All hail Moose!

Thank you so much for getting those little evil bastards! I still don't know why there was none on the first floor and yet one on the next and another on the next. I almost ripped out every tile to start again and see if I could find it that way...@_@ Not since the Juno's Odyssey 'Groundhog Day' glitch have I met so frustrating a bug. If we still have out badges I would insist ya got the Charas equivalent of the Star of Valor or something.
Title: Re: Another Chain Game?
Post by: Prpl_Mage on April 01, 2018, 09:41:39 AM
Feel free to go through the areas of my chapter. Not sure if I managed to add music that fit or not. Most of the tunes were yours so those were great of course.

I'm not planning on doing much for my chapter. I'll fix the bugs mentioned by Momeka but otherwise I'll just send it to him so we're done. Since none of you have brought up any problems with the last chapter I'll just let it be. But I suppose someone should probably do a last playthrough just in case.
Title: Re: Another Chain Game?
Post by: Moosetroop11 on April 01, 2018, 12:30:44 PM
Donut and Fish, the issue was that the physical enemies had been copied over from an enemy that used Momeka's death animation. That animation is a physical event that teleports to the enemy, changes graphic, then hides itself. Because the event didn't exist, the enemies were pulling ev86 (or something) every time they died, which on all maps but the first one was one of the teleport events.

As for the game I'm half way through prpl's chapter, thought I'd better play through to finish. I don't know if I want to make a title theme because the one we have feels like it fits so well, as I've now heard it so many times : p I might give it a go.
Title: Re: Another Chain Game?
Post by: Moosetroop11 on April 02, 2018, 03:52:19 PM
UPDATE:  Prpl I love your box puzzle a lot, but there's a nasty bug I'd better fix which stops you jumping if two boxes share an x coordinate :p I didn't know what was going on and thought I was just doing something wrong.

Also I think the FF music fits there quite well but are you ok for me to make a theme for it? It'd be a really fun one to do.

Similarly the tune of mine you used for Neon Hub is really busy which is why I ended up not using it, I might try and make a new one as I got sick of hearing it as I walked around.

Sorry for hogging the thing! I'll continue to update so you know I'm not just lazy.
Title: Re: Another Chain Game?
Post by: Prpl_Mage on April 03, 2018, 01:08:52 AM
Do it.
Title: Re: Another Chain Game?
Post by: Momeka on April 11, 2018, 07:45:58 AM
Quick check up, how's it going? where is the game at?
Title: Re: Another Chain Game?
Post by: Moosetroop11 on April 11, 2018, 09:59:26 AM
Hey, I spent some time getting to the end of the game (unbelievably impressed), and so far I've done

* Greyspire music
* Neon Hub music
* Sewer music
* Title Music
* Final Battle Music
* Fixed some bugs
* Did a little balancing

I could happily carry on but I understand I only have a couple of days free a week to work on it and you guys might be getting impatient so I'm happy to send it on as is.
Title: Re: Another Chain Game?
Post by: Momeka on April 11, 2018, 02:43:33 PM
Sounds good. No real time constraint, unless prpl is in a hurry to get it. If you feel like continuing working on it for the week then do it.

Looking forward to hearing all the new music!
Title: Re: Another Chain Game?
Post by: Prpl_Mage on April 12, 2018, 02:10:33 PM
No hurry really, got a baby to take care of. But my plan is to have the game sent to Momeka before the end of April. So a week more is probably not a problem, it's worth it for the music.
Title: Re: Another Chain Game?
Post by: Moosetroop11 on April 12, 2018, 03:19:00 PM
It was tempting to keep it for another week, but I decided it was probably time to let this go!

I've sent you the game prpl, plus a probably over-lengthy accompanying amble.

If you also want the game I'll send it Momeka, though I assumed you might as well wait for the final product now :) Just ask if you want it.

As I said in the message, if you decide somewhere else in the game would benefit from new music, please ask. It really is more fun than a pain, I just didn't want to change everything when often you'd already got the atmosphere just right.

And thanks all, playing through it start to finish again made me remember how good it all is. Nice work on that final thing Momeka ;)
Title: Re: Another Chain Game?
Post by: Prpl_Mage on April 12, 2018, 05:18:18 PM
So I got the game and looked through it. Someone was kind enough to add more animations to the skills and characters. Guessing Fish since he also replaced the pokemon enemy sprites.
And all the tweaks you guys made really improved the game. Especially the music Moose added.

I think I managed to fix most of the things mentioned before, with switches and such. I was just about to do some additional dialogue when I had to take care of my son and realized that this could take a while.
Screaming babies are great deterrents to ambition.
So in the end I decided to be satisfied with what I did before, so I'm passing it on to Momeka now.

Game could use one last playthrough just to make sure that everything works after all the fixes. But otherwise ready to be uploaded on our itch page
Title: Re: Another Chain Game?
Post by: Fisherson on April 12, 2018, 08:49:34 PM
You noticed my improved animations! =3 Some of them were very fun to do and some I did while waiting for a good time to get the the library. I worried I might have added too many skills but I assume for once they were the right number and balanced? I tried to make them simpler but funnier animated. Oh and did you like the new animations for Olokun anybody?
Title: Re: Another Chain Game?
Post by: Momeka on April 13, 2018, 12:01:01 AM
Okay, I got the game. There is some minor stuff I want to fix and going to do a last playthrough and balance check. But right now I'm in the process of releasing a game at work, it will be released on Thursday next week. And ****ing hell it's the most stressful thing I ever done, do not recommend.

Best case I will be able to do the fixes next weekend.
Title: Re: Another Chain Game?
Post by: Prpl_Mage on April 13, 2018, 02:52:18 PM
Good luck with that!
But knowing the work you do I bet its awesome.
Title: Re: Another Chain Game?
Post by: Donut on April 18, 2018, 02:33:34 AM
Good luck Momeka!
Title: Re: Another Chain Game?
Post by: Momeka on April 20, 2018, 12:38:46 PM
So the game I've been working on the past year is out. (http://store.steampowered.com/app/800390/Puppet_Fever/)  So gonna start looking at finishing the last things in the chain game. Probably won't be able to finish it this weekend. Feeling kinda burned out on the whole making games thing atm. But I'll get started. Hopefully I'll have something ready next week.