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Offline Cerebus

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Re: We need more Mod staff
« Reply #30 on: July 25, 2008, 01:43:41 AM »
Depends.
Let's say there's a Request Topic. Thread goes to 10 posts and stay On-Topic. Request has been fulfilled. Some member posts something pointless and get two pointless replies. Thread should be locked.
Additionally, pointless posts could be deleted.

Now there's another Request Topic. First post is pointless and get several pointless replies. Thread should be deleted.

That's how I see it.
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Re: We need more Mod staff
« Reply #31 on: July 25, 2008, 01:48:56 AM »
Well, it could be put in the Junk Bin, but I think that sometime, lowering Post Count by deleting useless posts can help getting rid of spam.
No one would like their Post Count to get down, so they'd have to stop spamming.
« Last Edit: July 25, 2008, 02:04:53 AM by Cerebus »
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Re: We need more Mod staff
« Reply #32 on: July 25, 2008, 02:05:05 AM »
Oh lord, I can picture it now. Charas operating like a real forum D:
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Re: We need more Mod staff
« Reply #33 on: July 25, 2008, 02:22:53 AM »
Hello, I'm a mod.

Now, I can't speak on behalf of the whole staff, but I have always thought deleting posts/threads is just a step too far. I don't like deleting these things. I've always thought deleting should only be saved for complete spam posts (like someone hitting their keyboard with their face) or advertising threads by like bots and stuff. Oh, and if someone is flooding the forum with a single thread or whatever.

Deleting an individual post as soon as it happened, maybe. Deleting an individual post after it's been referred to and quoted for pages, that would just lead to confusion for anyone who didn't see it or who is reviewing the thread long after it's gone. It's not as easy as binary, it's more like a gradient.

IIRC Raffles' threads weren't deleted for the most part, just locked and moved away from public sight.



I suppose we could edit your posts so that EVERYTHING is ontopic and all the offtopic text is removed, but who would want that? It's total thought-police stuff. Made a hilarious joke? OH BUT IT'S NOT ON TOPIC, GOODBYE JOKE. Nobody wants that.
It's all very complicated, and retrospect I really should have checked the private forum first, lololol.

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Re: We need more Mod staff
« Reply #34 on: July 25, 2008, 02:52:08 AM »
Quote from: Razor on July 25, 2008, 02:22:53 AM
Now, I can't speak on behalf of the whole staff, but I have always thought deleting posts/threads is just a step too far.

But then again, it depends. If a thread goes Off-Topic after the first post and remains for several posts, the thread should be just deleted. Of course, if there's only like 4 Off-Topic posts on a 2 page thread, then just locking it is good.

Quote from: Razor on July 25, 2008, 02:22:53 AM
Deleting an individual post as soon as it happened, maybe. Deleting an individual post after it's been referred to and quoted for pages, that would just lead to confusion for anyone who didn't see it or who is reviewing the thread long after it's gone.

Well, of course you're not going to delete an Off-Topic post that is few days old. Only posts that have been made the same day.

Quote from: Razor on July 25, 2008, 02:22:53 AM
I suppose we could edit your posts so that EVERYTHING is ontopic and all the offtopic text is removed, but who would want that? It's total thought-police stuff.

Depending how Off-Topic the rest of a post can be, Editing can be good. That or when someone bypass the censor outside of Unmod, maybe...

But this, of course, is just my opinion.
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Offline A Forgotten Legend

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Re: We need more Mod staff
« Reply #35 on: July 25, 2008, 03:09:37 AM »
Thought Police?

(I'm reading 1984 right now for english next year... >.>)

I know that of late I have been posting on the spammy side, but I've tried to keep on topic while doing so... if that makes any sense.

Plus, I hardly ever see a mod actually modding anymore. o.o  Its weird.
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Re: We need more Mod staff
« Reply #36 on: July 25, 2008, 06:32:02 AM »
I went to work and there were a million posts.

The policy has usually been that deleting posts is generally something the staff tries not to do. Were also trying to keep things enjoyable and whatnot.
I think much of this off topicness has happened pretty gradually. The staff that ARE active try to do what they can.
Things have picked up around here a bit, and there has been some confusion here and there...between new members, and the various forum changes,
and were really trying to keep things enjoyable for everyone. If that means that you want a stricter staff policy on spam then I dont see a problem with it.
I generally try not having to resort to a topic being locked. As a mod, in a sense the whole goal is NOT to have to lock a thread, and get the conversation back on track.

I dont think I even have an opinion or not, regarding the effectiveness of additional moderators. I dont see any Immediate benefit right now, as any mod chosen (after this thread is done with) will feel the need to be a heavy handed mod-nazi. I think we can ALL (members, and staff) make an effort to keep things on track.


And also: Unmod Needs to be destroyed. Deleted completely.
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Re: We need more Mod staff
« Reply #37 on: July 25, 2008, 07:02:00 AM »
Quote from: gemini on July 25, 2008, 06:32:02 AM
And also: Unmod Needs to be destroyed. Deleted completely.
You are dead to me Gem.
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Re: We need more Mod staff
« Reply #38 on: July 25, 2008, 07:37:25 AM »
I'll be honest: Unmod is really encouraging the stuff we don't like. However, deleting it may cause spam to leak out more than it already is. Do posts in Unmod count toward your total? Because making them not count could try and bring down the spam a bit.

I am actually trying to fix everything that's going on here. I apparently had the power to cause it, so I must have the power to put an end to it. Right?
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Re: We need more Mod staff
« Reply #39 on: July 25, 2008, 07:48:05 AM »
Nope.
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Re: We need more Mod staff
« Reply #40 on: July 25, 2008, 08:40:08 AM »
Quote from: Archem2 on July 25, 2008, 07:37:25 AM
I'll be honest: Unmod is really encouraging the stuff we don't like. However, deleting it may cause spam to leak out more than it already is. Do posts in Unmod count toward your total? Because making them not count could try and bring down the spam a bit.

I am actually trying to fix everything that's going on here. I apparently had the power to cause it, so I must have the power to put an end to it. Right?


Of course you have the power to stop it- just like Pandora.





And yeah, really, guys, lay off the sex jokes on Phayre. Just because she's female doesn't mean she's fair game.
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Re: We need more Mod staff
« Reply #41 on: July 25, 2008, 08:45:53 AM »
I'm proud to say I have never made a sex joke. Well, hetero sex joke.

Also, are there still bonks or not?
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Re: We need more Mod staff
« Reply #42 on: July 25, 2008, 08:47:49 AM »
No, we have no bonks. I miss them. Perhaps at some point they'll return, but for now I must only lament
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Re: We need more Mod staff
« Reply #43 on: July 25, 2008, 10:11:50 AM »
I still have a screenshot of my first bonk if anyone wants it. You know... for memory purposes.
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Re: We need more Mod staff
« Reply #44 on: July 25, 2008, 12:02:51 PM »
Quote from: gemini on July 25, 2008, 06:32:02 AM
The policy has usually been that deleting posts is generally something the staff tries not to do.

Well, then again, it would depends... but I guess Warnings and Locks might be better than Deleting. Except for those damn "DNC" posts in "Whoever posts last win"!

Quote from: gemini on July 25, 2008, 06:32:02 AM
The staff that ARE active try to do what they can.

The increased amount of spam shows it wasn't enough. Not saying staff aren't doing their job, but maybe they weren't strict enough.

Quote from: gemini on July 25, 2008, 06:32:02 AM
If that means that you want a stricter staff policy on spam then I dont see a problem with it.

I do.

Quote from: gemini on July 25, 2008, 06:32:02 AM
I generally try not having to resort to a topic being locked. As a mod, in a sense the whole goal is NOT to have to lock a thread, and get the conversation back on track.

Of course, a Warning is better than instant Lock for some threads. But some, like Requests that start to be spammed after it has ben fulfilled should, in my opinion, be locked instantly. I'd prefer having the spam deleted, but I guess no one agrees.

Quote from: gemini on July 25, 2008, 06:32:02 AM
I dont think I even have an opinion or not, regarding the effectiveness of additional moderators. I dont see any Immediate benefit right now, as any mod chosen (after this thread is done with) will feel the need to be a heavy handed mod-nazi. I think we can ALL (members, and staff) make an effort to keep things on track.

Yeah, I guess you're right.

Quote from: Archem2 on July 25, 2008, 07:37:25 AM
I'll be honest: Unmod is really encouraging the stuff we don't like. However, deleting it may cause spam to leak out more than it already is. Do posts in Unmod count toward your total? Because making them not count could try and bring down the spam a bit.

Making posts not count would be a good idea. I'd like to see how much some members's Post Count would drop, then...

Quote from: ZeroKirbyX on July 25, 2008, 08:45:53 AM
I'm proud to say I have never made a sex joke. Well, hetero sex joke.

Also, are there still bonks or not?

Hah! Proud to say I've never made any sex joke, hetero or homo!
And what are Bonks? It reminds me something... was it, like, a Warning sent to member, kinda like a PM, when they spammed or such?
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