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Offline Archem

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Re: Leave me alone, creepy dude
« Reply #45 on: March 30, 2009, 07:28:48 PM »
Quote from: Valiere on March 30, 2009, 05:27:38 PM
You guys have it lucky. I doubt you've ever had to deal with a creepy girl.

Jesus Christ, if only that were true! I'm like a creepy girl magnet! I mean, I'm far from an attractive young man myself, but apparently I'm just attractive enough to get the strange ones to try and form a rather uncomfortable relationship with me. Believe it or not, I've been through your dilemma more than a few times, and while you may want to spare your creepy follower's feelings, it's often best to let them know how uncomfortable they make you feel. If you don't, you end up with a more serious stalker (first-hand experience here) who somehow starts getting a hold of uncomfortably large amounts of personal, sometimes private information about you.

The best course of action is to let them down gently; "I'm sorry, but I'm really not interested in what you have to say right now." "I'm a little busy, mind if we cut this chat short?" "You're being a little creepy right now. I don't want you to feel awkward, but you're making me feel awkward." These are the best ways to go about hinting in a more verbal fashion that they're bothering you with their behavior or that you'd like to have them cease their contact. If they just don't get the hint, then you need to vocalize it more: "Please leave me alone, I don't feel like talking to you." I know it seems rude, but some people just don't get when they're going too far.


Having a penis doesn't make these things any easier. We're culturally molded to treat women with respect, to be polite to them, to not do anything that would make them unhappy. We're basically treading a minefield every time we have to talk to any women who we don't know personally enough. It's really hard to treat a person of the opposite gender the way you want to when you've been trained to treat them "the way you should", and this just makes things even more difficult when they're not on the same page of the Social Standards Handbook. Most of us here are men, and we have the men's perspective on this situation. Our advice (whether you want it or not) may not be perfect or 100% guaranteed to work, but at least we have a better idea of how your (for lack of a better term) aggressor's mind works.



-- This has been a rare, serious, potentially helpful post from the desk of Archem.
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Re: Leave me alone, creepy dude
« Reply #46 on: March 30, 2009, 07:33:42 PM »
Quote from: Archem2 on March 30, 2009, 07:28:48 PM
-- This has been a rare, serious, potentially helpful post from the desk of Archem.

I'm astonished and agree.
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Re: Leave me alone, creepy dude
« Reply #47 on: March 30, 2009, 07:43:30 PM »
Quote from: Valiere on March 30, 2009, 05:27:38 PM
Now, you men....need to learn what nonverbal cues mean a woman doesn't want to talk to you. Lack of eye contact. Terse responses. Not smiling. Walking away. The fun thing about nonverbal language is, if interpreted properly, it means no one has to be "shot down" or feel embarrassingly rejected. It makes it easier for everyone.

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Re: Leave me alone, creepy dude
« Reply #48 on: March 30, 2009, 07:52:32 PM »
Hey hey, I've been in this situation before. I've had creepy girls follow ME around... also one time it was a guy, that was EXTRA creepy.

Also! I passed my communication courses so I understand nonverbal cues. :) Fact is, a lot of people (boys AND girls) don't.
« Last Edit: March 30, 2009, 08:00:26 PM by Darkfox »
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Re: Leave me alone, creepy dude
« Reply #49 on: March 30, 2009, 07:59:59 PM »
Quote from: Archem2 on March 30, 2009, 07:28:48 PM
Jesus Christ, if only that were true! I'm like a creepy girl magnet! I mean, I'm far from an attractive young man myself, but apparently I'm just attractive enough to get the strange ones to try and form a rather uncomfortable relationship with me. Believe it or not, I've been through your dilemma more than a few times, and while you may want to spare your creepy follower's feelings, it's often best to let them know how uncomfortable they make you feel. If you don't, you end up with a more serious stalker (first-hand experience here) who somehow starts getting a hold of uncomfortably large amounts of personal, sometimes private information about you.

The best course of action is to let them down gently; "I'm sorry, but I'm really not interested in what you have to say right now." "I'm a little busy, mind if we cut this chat short?" "You're being a little creepy right now. I don't want you to feel awkward, but you're making me feel awkward." These are the best ways to go about hinting in a more verbal fashion that they're bothering you with their behavior or that you'd like to have them cease their contact. If they just don't get the hint, then you need to vocalize it more: "Please leave me alone, I don't feel like talking to you." I know it seems rude, but some people just don't get when they're going too far.


Having a penis doesn't make these things any easier. We're culturally molded to treat women with respect, to be polite to them, to not do anything that would make them unhappy. We're basically treading a minefield every time we have to talk to any women who we don't know personally enough. It's really hard to treat a person of the opposite gender the way you want to when you've been trained to treat them "the way you should", and this just makes things even more difficult when they're not on the same page of the Social Standards Handbook. Most of us here are men, and we have the men's perspective on this situation. Our advice (whether you want it or not) may not be perfect or 100% guaranteed to work, but at least we have a better idea of how your (for lack of a better term) aggressor's mind works.



-- This has been a rare, serious, potentially helpful post from the desk of Archem.


"I'm kind of busy right now" seems like a decent response actually. If he protests, I'll be more forceful, then let the teacher know.

And thank you for your perspective. It does help.
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Re: Leave me alone, creepy dude
« Reply #50 on: March 30, 2009, 08:03:39 PM »
I'm a bit surprised with Archem. That is pretty well put. And aye, just because we are guys doesn't mean we don't deal with similar social problems. I'm more of the quiet shelled up guy.
« Last Edit: March 30, 2009, 08:10:28 PM by Darkfox »
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Re: Leave me alone, creepy dude
« Reply #51 on: March 30, 2009, 08:12:23 PM »
Quote from: Darkfox on March 30, 2009, 07:52:32 PM
I've had creepy girls follow ME around... also one time it was a guy, that was EXTRA creepy.

Oh yeah. I had an emo-guy who stalked me for a while with more... erhm. "Serious intentions". But it was easier to make him change his mind than making these girls.
I do have a girlfriend. They are aware. They just don't see how it matters. They somehow(for some odd reason beyond my understanding) believe that I would dump my girlfriend for them once they've been around me enough. That I, (for some reason) would start to like them more than her. And that's creepy.

I'm not sure anymore.
Nerdy-stalking creepy. Seeking social company and/or something more.
Pervert-stalking creepy. Seeking sexual company and/or something more.
Or obsessive-stalking creepy. Seeking relationship and/or a lifetime together with them(?).

Which one is the worst..?
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Re: Leave me alone, creepy dude
« Reply #52 on: March 30, 2009, 08:14:52 PM »
Quote from: Prpl_Mage on March 30, 2009, 08:12:23 PM
Oh yeah. I had an emo-guy who stalked me for a while with more... erhm. "Serious intentions". But it was easier to make him change his mind than making these girls.
I do have a girlfriend. They are aware. They just don't see how it matters. They somehow(for some odd reason beyond my understanding) believe that I would dump my girlfriend for them once they've been around me enough. That I, (for some reason) would start to like them more than her. And that's creepy.

I'm not sure anymore.
Nerdy-stalking creepy. Seeking social company and/or something more.
Pervert-stalking creepy. Seeking sexual company and/or something more.
Or obsessive-stalking creepy. Seeking relationship and/or a lifetime together with them(?).

Which one is the worst..?

#2, definitely #2.

I've had #2 stalking ONCE... GAH, creepiest by far. Nothing more creepy than desperation.

Lets see...

tops is pervert stalkingg,
next is obsessive stalking
and then nerdy stalking, which I find most tolerable.
« Last Edit: March 30, 2009, 08:20:50 PM by Darkfox »
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Re: Leave me alone, creepy dude
« Reply #53 on: March 30, 2009, 08:26:18 PM »
#2 of course.

And to try to elaborate on my point...Yes, I now see that guys definitely do deal with creepy girls. However, it's not quite the same. While you may feel threatened by a creepy girl, you probably aren't truly terrified because if it came down to it, you could probably physically overpower her. I may work out, but I doubt I could physically overpower a male that is larger than I am. Then there's also the difficulty of a woman trying to rape a man.

There may be cases where a girl is insane enough that you really do fear for your safety, but overall I believe creepy women are less of a threat than creepy men.

Thankfully, I've yet to feel truly afraid of a creepy guy.
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Re: Leave me alone, creepy dude
« Reply #54 on: March 30, 2009, 08:33:25 PM »
You are right, and that is probably why some of us respond with a bit of concern. Some less admitting than others. I'll admit it though. XD I hope he's just socially awkward.
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Re: Leave me alone, creepy dude
« Reply #55 on: March 30, 2009, 08:38:46 PM »
Quote from: Valiere on March 30, 2009, 08:26:18 PM
#2 of course.

And to try to elaborate on my point...Yes, I now see that guys definitely do deal with creepy girls. However, it's not quite the same. While you may feel threatened by a creepy girl, you probably aren't truly terrified because if it came down to it, you could probably physically overpower her. I may work out, but I doubt I could physically overpower a male that is larger than I am. Then there's also the difficulty of a woman trying to rape a man.

There may be cases where a girl is insane enough that you really do fear for your safety, but overall I believe creepy women are less of a threat than creepy men.

Thankfully, I've yet to feel truly afraid of a creepy guy.

First off, this is the reason you buy a knife and threaten to chop his balls off. I mean if I were a female in your position  I would invite him to my house and show him my blade work. A weapon never fails you if you know how to use it and don't mind  getting you're hand a little dirty, so to say. If you can't carry a knife to school take a small spray bottle and mix some Chili peppers and alcohol together and when you feel threatened shoot it in his face. That'll show him.
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Re: Leave me alone, creepy dude
« Reply #56 on: March 30, 2009, 08:42:00 PM »
Ehm, well she stated that she prefers not to get violent or threatening.
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Re: Leave me alone, creepy dude
« Reply #57 on: March 30, 2009, 08:44:22 PM »
Quote from: Darkfox on March 30, 2009, 08:42:00 PM
Ehm, well she stated that she prefers not to get violent or threatening.

Huh? How do you do that? I was tought if they mess with you, hurt them bad.
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Re: Leave me alone, creepy dude
« Reply #58 on: March 30, 2009, 08:47:06 PM »
Quote from: Fisherson on March 30, 2009, 08:44:22 PM
Huh? How do you do that? I was tought if they mess with you, hurt them bad.

It kinda depends on what they do exactly. I got into a lot of trouble with THAT philosophy (kicked out of school).
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Re: Leave me alone, creepy dude
« Reply #59 on: March 30, 2009, 08:47:25 PM »
Quote from: Fisherson on March 30, 2009, 08:38:46 PM
First off, this is the reason you buy a knife and threaten to chop his balls off. I mean if I were a female in your position  I would invite him to my house and show him my blade work. A weapon never fails you if you know how to use it and don't mind  getting you're hand a little dirty, so to say. If you can't carry a knife to school take a small spray bottle and mix some Chili peppers and alcohol together and when you feel threatened shoot it in his face. That'll show him.

I thought you were going to make a good point here. But you didn't.

The thing about creepy girls that represents those larger males using violence: They know that they are weaker and therefore gets themselves a weapon. Creepy girls with Swiss army knives  are probably way creepier than a strong male. People carrying weapons are probably more calm with the thought of using them rather than a guy with muscles using his strength.

But I know where you're going with that Valiere. Chances that a girl does carry a weapon is smaller than a guy having muscles enough to overpower you.
But of course, talking about creepy persons as in: Rape. You win that by miles.
I won't even try to defend males about that part. It's not worth it and it's a losing battle.
Girls do have stronger means to fear rape than guys. Finding gay (or just very desperate)guys are probably way,way,way smaller than finding a rapist(/desperate guy) who goes for girls.

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