Grinding vs Taking Advantage of the System

[Cerebus]

Every languages have their slang, I'm fairly sure.
Also, I'm fairly sure what you meant is "I hear", unless you actually do wear black people. Like, their skin or something. I'm afraid this might be considered racism, though.

And yeah, off-topicness is sort of common, here.

[fruckert]

Usually we go off topic on like the third post.

It's almost always Archem's fault.

[daoman89]

lol *hear!!  i meant hear!!  I want Monster Hunter 4 soooooooooo badly.... 

[Archem]

It's almost always Archem's fault.

God damn it all.

[Prpl_Mage]

I've always wondered though... Do other languages have slang?  Cause English is full of slang and I hear black people (not to sound racist or stereotypical) made their own English sub-language.  I'll read things like "Dat bull be winging the jaunt up the curb so sick of it some bull ****."  And I'm like uhhh... wtf!?  Or maybe they're just poorly educated?  America's not as perfect as you may thing ladies and gentlemen!  Equality my ***!!

Of course every language have slang. It's not just the product of immigration though. Language change over time, otherwise ya'll be speaking oldé English and spell like the Britts. Swedish is one of those languages that changes rapidly. We adapt expressions from many of all the different cultures that becomes a part of sweden at the same time that the difference in accent varies a lot even between the south and northern parts of Sweden. And to make thing even worse - the formal swedish which is usually presented in books and politics is nowhere near how people speak ordinarily.
Also, a lot of internet slang is finding it's way into most societies these days. Stuff like "omg", "lol", "brb", "leeching", "tanking", "denying", "o rly?", "nigga stole my bike", "trolling" -  you name it.

In an attempt to get back on track.
Grinding can be made good and grinding can be made bad. An example of bad is Soul calibur 5. I've been fighting battles and battles trying to max dat player level and it just takes so many point to get remotely near it.
A little like monster hunter tri when you're trying to level up your rank online to get better quests. You're gonna spend some hours killing the royal ludroth and the rathian unless you find a party of people who can deliver.
FFX sphere grid was something I liked though, I actually find that attribute increasing on choice is a good thing. Just like Diablo 2 when you could place all 5 points into Vitality and gain some more hp to avoid that 1 shot. Problem is that you can usually take advantage of that and make a serious glasscannon that need to stay out of harms way at all costs.
Speaking of diablo 2 and sphere grids. In the shadow of Diablo 3 some people are creating some game called Path of exile. The people developing this game was probably some people upset with the changes blizzard made for the third game and decided to do their own. It looks like diablo 2 and the interface is almost snagged from it. Only that instead of level up you have a the FFX spheregrid(times 5) to place points in.

[Archem]

I've found that, up until the most recent games, Pokémon's grinding was unbearable. In most games, monsters tend to be of a certain level to reflect your point in the game, and award XP accordingly. Pokémon has had issues with this. The Pokémon you find in the wild are often a good ten or more levels lower than the trainers/gym you're about to face, and the experience payoff is a bit lower than you'd expect, meaning that your grinding can become tedious. Combine this with the fact that, unlike traditional RPGs, you gain experience for one party member at a time, with a maximum of six, versus the typical four, and that any attempt to share experience results in smaller fractions of the original XP, and you get a very hard grind. To make matters worse, there's a good chance that your party isn't properly balanced for what lies ahead, meaning that you have to train some other Pokémon to fill in a role. More than likely, they're also a decent number of levels below your current lineup, so that's another twenty levels of grinding instead of ten. Lastly, only trainer-raised Pokémon offer a good XP reward; wilds often lag behind considerably, despite being the same or even greater levels. The limited nature of trainer fights makes grinding that much more of a hassle. Type advantage can only go so far, but playing that card is vital, so you'll see yourself grinding a team you wouldn't use normally just to get over the hump.

I like that trainers are plentiful (infinite, even) in Black and White, and that Lucky Eggs exist for a 50% XP bonus. I love the inclusion of Audino, especially the rare trainer-owned ones. Easy kill, tons of XP. The last two games really addressed the long-standing issue of the lousy grind the games have had for so long.

And in case anyone forgot, yeah, I have big issues with getting to the end of the game severely underleveled. I'm currently playing Leaf Green, and have been grinding a team up to level 55-60 for the Elite Four, and they started in their 20s (except for Charizard, who was in his 30s from always being in the party). It's been an active issue.

[Prpl_Mage]

I like that trainers are plentiful (infinite, even) in Black and White, and that Lucky Eggs exist for a 50% XP bonus. I love the inclusion of Audino, especially the rare trainer-owned ones. Easy kill, tons of XP. The last two games really addressed the long-standing issue of the lousy grind the games have had for so long.

This.

Best thing ever.

[Moosetroop11]

Weirdly, I never, ever had a problem with pokemon. I don't feel like I trained all that much, but no-one has ever been that hard.  I usually don't beat the elite four first time, but the exp I get from losing to them a couple of times is sometimes enough :p

[Prpl_Mage]

I usually don't beat the elite four first time, but the exp I get from losing to them a couple of times is sometimes enough :p

Waaaaiiiiit...

You lose against the elite four and you don't restart the game? As in, you get all whited out and you let yourself be transported back to the pkmn centre with a loss? I don't get it.

[daoman89]

I would do that too to train my guys lol.  Just spend all of your money on stuff so it doesn't matter if you lose.  It's the best way to level up to prepare yourself for the elite four!!  I didn't do that for black or white though....  I just laid down the smack and got it done.  Speaking of pokemon, what's y'all B&W friend codes??  I wanna perhaps battle against somebody other than japanese cuz they beat my butt most of the time lol.  They have the blaziken with speed boost...  Now that's just not fair lol  1807-1777-7009 Dave

[Archem]

I would share mine, but my DS is old and the wi-fi doesn't quite work like it used to, so I can't maintain a solid connection. I've tried it with friends, and it's like I'm just standing there, doing nothing.

[Moosetroop11]

Waaaaiiiiit...

You lose against the elite four and you don't restart the game? As in, you get all whited out and you let yourself be transported back to the pkmn centre with a loss? I don't get it.

That's right.  You lose a bit of money; big whoop.  You get tons of exp from battles before you're beaten.  I don't think it detracts from the game immersion; my character's a 'fail once, try again' type guy.

[Archem]

I find myself blowing a ton of cash on stuff in an effort to maintain exact amounts of all items, so losing my already limited supply of cash can be a significant loss.

Just sayin'.

[Moosetroop11]

I spend all my money on nutrients, without fail... I'm always changing my team so I always need more

[Cerebus]

That's right.  You lose a bit of money; big whoop.  You get tons of exp from battles before you're beaten.  I don't think it detracts from the game immersion; my character's a 'fail once, try again' type guy.

See, I've always been a "You lose, you fail and don't deserve to live; restart and make it as if that lost never happened" guy.
Also, I love having tons of money for the purpose of having tons of money.

I always level with underlevelled foes, which indeed can take a very long time and make the game boring and too repetitive, which then leads me to stop playing for a while. Yeah.