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Offline Meiscool

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Re: So, Diablo 3
« Reply #135 on: June 02, 2012, 07:36:56 PM »
That's why I feel that pvp should be scaled.

Pokemon does this with level scaling. It is a decent example. Guild wars is still my best example, as everyone who does pvp gets the same amount of base stats and skill points, and can customize their weapons/armor with just the push of a button... but the gear made can only be used in pvp areas. The only thing guildwars doesn't give the player is all skills and all modifers. You unlock the weapon modifiers through pve or pvp, but it doesn't take long at all. Maybe one day of NORMAL non-grinding pve will unlock most modifiers. Skills (meaning spells, not passives) on the other hand, must be worked for.

Not saying every game has to do this, but an important part about pvp is equality. If a game is going to have pvp, then characters should be scaled from the start with minor, and easily unlock-able, boosts given to those that have played longer (perks in COD, etc).

I hated pvp in diablo 2 because 20+ leveled people could join my room, mark me as hostile, then try their best to find me and my group. What happens when they did? I lost a lot of progress and time, because they could one shot us.

Now, if when they clicked the hostile button their level automatically scaled down to mine and the game negated equipment based effects (for balance purposes) for exchanged blows, then I would've stood a fair chance, and it would been a fight... not a massacre.
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Re: So, Diablo 3
« Reply #136 on: June 02, 2012, 07:44:17 PM »
Didn't you have to accept being PvP flagged in Diablo II?
And why would you let strangers join your game? Couldn't you either make the room private or kick them?
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Re: So, Diablo 3
« Reply #137 on: June 02, 2012, 08:42:18 PM »
A: No, you could be flagged hostile without need to accept. You had to accept a duel flag though.

B: That is really beside the point.
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Re: So, Diablo 3
« Reply #138 on: June 02, 2012, 09:00:41 PM »
A: Ah, I see. That's kinda ridiculous, to be honest. Why even bother with duels when you can kill people anyway.

B: Kinda true, though doing this would have avoided the frustration of getting one-shotted by people who joined your games for that.

I do like PvP, but there's no lying that when gear means more than skills and ability, it kinda sucks.
You could have lighting reflexes and be very strategic, if the guy has better gear, he'll probably still beat you (assuming the guys does have any skills).
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Re: So, Diablo 3
« Reply #139 on: June 03, 2012, 06:43:04 AM »
Quote from: JesusIsMe on June 02, 2012, 06:09:00 AM
though (apparently) gw2 sucks zombie horse wiener.
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Re: So, Diablo 3
« Reply #140 on: June 05, 2012, 07:00:23 AM »
Finally beat act 3 on hell, my demon hunter just hit lvl 60 and the leap in equipment stats are huge.

Also found my 6th legendary item. I suppose I'm just lucky when it comes to those things since my MF don't go past 15.
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Re: So, Diablo 3
« Reply #141 on: June 11, 2012, 06:25:01 PM »
Just beat act 1 on hell with some chinese guys. Minutes later, my internet disconnected.
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Re: So, Diablo 3
« Reply #142 on: June 14, 2012, 04:35:06 PM »
So I've been crawling my way through inferno. Being a demon hunter is pretty much the same as being a ming-dynasty vase... But with a bow and trapp laying skills, and able to dodge roll. But that's not the point.

The point is that when I play on my own or 2 player, I survive an attack with like 100-500hp out of 34k. Whenever there are more than 2 people everything will 1-hit kill me. I though getting more vitality (hp) would solve the problem but I'm beginning to question it, seems like I need armor or something. Or even more dodge chance.
Anyway, the elite packs (champions, rare) are bosses on their own these days. Bastards spawn with 4 different attrinutes. My absolute favourite is extra health, reflect damage, invulnerable and vortex. There's just no way that those bastards will ever go down.
Downed the bosses up till the last one in act 2 but there's simply no way of defeating him. Everything kills me even those slithering bastards that you have to refight the boss. A boss with 3 phases where all the phases are prone to kill you good.
Hoping that some of these elite packs could drop me something useful to use, like more armor or something so that I can at least survive more. Maybe some more damage. Anything really.

Wizard remains at 54, got a monk at 51, a barb at 49 and a WD at 42. Demon hunter is the one class more fun to play though, wizards die more easily than the dh when all the enemies move faster than you.
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Re: So, Diablo 3
« Reply #143 on: June 14, 2012, 07:23:38 PM »
Inferno's rough, from what I hear. You're not alone in your pain.

It's 4:50am and I just beat Azmodan on Hell, leveling my WD to 60 in the process. Feels good, man.
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Re: So, Diablo 3
« Reply #144 on: June 14, 2012, 07:55:51 PM »
I got obsessed with Anno 2070 and stopped midway through nightmare act 2. Are there set items in the game?
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Re: So, Diablo 3
« Reply #145 on: June 14, 2012, 11:06:28 PM »
Quote from: SaiKar on June 14, 2012, 07:55:51 PM
I got obsessed with Anno 2070 and stopped midway through nightmare act 2. Are there set items in the game?

There are but they all seem to be lvl 60 items only dropped in inferno or bosses (or so it seems). Seen some DH with DH set and some Wiz with Wiz set parts.

Just killed Skeleton king on hardcore with a monk, I'm not dying but I'm not doing a lot of damage either.
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Re: So, Diablo 3
« Reply #146 on: June 16, 2012, 12:51:50 AM »
So with the help of internet people I have beat Hell.

Inferno is quite ridiculous and I suspect the close to 10000 damage I am dealing is not going to be enough. Also Zombears are awesome.
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Re: So, Diablo 3
« Reply #147 on: June 16, 2012, 12:34:48 PM »
Quote from: Razor on June 16, 2012, 12:51:50 AM
So with the help of internet people I have beat Hell.

Inferno is quite ridiculous and I suspect the close to 10000 damage I am dealing is not going to be enough. Also Zombears are awesome.

Pretty much cruising my way through hell with a monk, few things threaten my life. Got one of them shields and some healing skills and some sanctuary and some 200 heal per hit matched with way of the thousand fists (works really well). So bosses takes forever to beat but I'm not spending a lot of time running like a sissypants.

The health of inferno monsters is ridiculous.  Not zombies, Well at least the elites and stuff in act 2 and 3. Pretty much all enemies will 1 hit you unless you put your savings together to get some high armor and resistances though. Having 41k life don't do snuff unless you can reduce the damage taken.

And zombears are awesome indeed. But I don't see a lot of WD online in inferno. They are having a hard time now that all minions suck and only spirit walk to save them.
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Re: So, Diablo 3
« Reply #148 on: June 16, 2012, 06:48:09 PM »
That's what I'm experiencing, except without good equipment.

I think I'm just going to level up my Wizard instead.
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Re: So, Diablo 3
« Reply #149 on: June 20, 2012, 10:45:35 AM »
Even bots like the game. They would, what with the online only.
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