Patience in gaming: A split topic

[Moosetroop11]

I don't think it's good game design... But I do think highly of the people who bother, because it shows they can care about something geeky like that and actually stick with it like I would.  It tells me that they're the sort of person I'd get on with, I suppose.

[Cerebus]

Well, true that, those people do deserve respect. Respect for being insane enough to spend hours on a single boss. Respect for having the patience I will never have.

[greenraven]

Respect for having the patience I will never have.

I take it you're not a chess player then?

[Cerebus]

No, I am. I'm not really good, but I am. It's not the same thing, though. Why? Because I play against people of my level and games don't last four or more hours.

[Prpl_Mage]

Bosses that take a long time to beat? Got a lot of those. I liked monster hunters concept. Get 1 hour to hunt and kill your mark. Great fun.

Patience in battles aren't as much fun as patience with a game. Like farming or grinding. Or resetting the fight against black knight in Fire emblem to ensure that Ike critts both attacks and Black knight dies the next turn when he attacks and gets counter attacked just to get a good time on a speed run.

[greenraven]

Patience in battles aren't as much fun as patience with a game. Like farming or grinding.

Yeah but all the oldskool games were nothing BUT farming and grinding. You get to the save point outside the boss's room and then run through the level back and forth powerleveling. It was a perfectly common and acceptable thing to do. I can't even tell you how many circles I did around Motavia before I finally felt ready to take on NeiFirst.

[Cerebus]

Grinding for one hour is more fun than fighting that very same boss for four hours. You get money and Exp while farming, and maybe some items. The boss? Nothing, until he's dead. And then you get things that are useless because the other bosses are easier.

[Natako]

Fun fact about FFXII - after defeating Yiazmat in 4 hours, I went right to the final part of the game. The final boss form took me less than 30 seconds, possibly less than 20. Note that I said seconds, not minutes. It's a bit silly, even considering that Yiazmat is optional.

[fruckert]

Purp brought up Monster Hunter.
I'm playing it seriously for the first time right now (Freedom Unite), and man.
Who woulda thought that fighting the same guy for 15-20 minutes could be so fun.

The fact that the game's insane is really helping in that regards, though.

[Cerebus]

15-20 minutes? Sure, that's fine, especially since Monster Hunter lets you move around and stuff while fighting. 4 hours? In an RPG? Hell no.

However, I found Monster Hunter to be way too repetitive and I don't like mission based games like that. I'd much rather have more freedom to where I go and stuff.

[greenraven]

So how do you all feel about grinding an entire game from the start then? (Ragnarok, Demon Souls, Diablo, etc.)

[Cerebus]

I never grind for too long, actually. Not even sure I ever actually grinded for more than an hour.
However, it's different. You move around, find stuff, money, exp, etc. And you're also not whacking the same guy's head for hours.

Also, if possible... think any Mod can split this topic and create a new one called... I don't know, "Patience in games" or something? Don't really want to hijack Natako's thread...

[Prpl_Mage]

Also, if possible... think any Mod can split this topic and create a new one called... I don't know, "Patience in games" or something? Don't really want to hijack Natako's thread...

I think I succeed. Was a bit wonky

[Cerebus]

...oh wait. I somehow thought I was the one who derailed this. Oh well.

[Natako]

It was I who derailed it! Kind of funny, seeing that it's my own topic...