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Off-Topic => Archive => Old Game Discussion => Topic started by: InsaneJP on April 20, 2008, 09:38:06 PM
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The Foretold Conquest: A Seekers Story
Soul Seeker: Not much is known of them but they have records of them being able to control souls and use them in combat in various ways.
Umbra: Shapeless creatures that can form into anything they wish....the only way you can tell that an object or thing is an Umbra is due to the complete darkness of their appearance.
Storyline: About 10,000 years ago there was a great war. The war decided who was going to rule over the world, the Soul Seekers or the Umbra. These were the two major powers of the world at the time. Both of them used other smaller races for their needs but the Umbra considered them slaves. The Soul Seekers lived in harmony with the other races and they helped each other out. During the Great War the separate powers also used the other races to aid them in battle. The battle was beyond destructive. It ruined much of the rich land and destroyed monuments due to the battles. Many artifacts of the races and their history were lost in this war. Due to that not much is known of either of these races. It is said that the Soul Seekers emerged victorious over the Umbra and that the Umbra were banished from this realm never to walk on the world’s surface again.
Now, in the present day, neither race is among the living. But it is said that one day a Soul Seeker would be found and that he would help the world vanquish the Umbra and banish them again if they were to ever come back. So far it’s been 2,000 years since the last Soul Seeker was recorded but there have been no actual records of appearance of a Soul Seeker or Umbra. With that said Soul Seekers could be walking among us without us knowing just waiting for the day that the Umbra would return so that they can vanquish them and make sure the world is safe from their evil yet again.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v289/Insense343/Resources/GeoFaceRight.png)
-Geo-
A born fighter who uses his hands and feet in melee combat. He is very bright and loves to fight monsters to gain more strength. He has been living and training with his grandfather since he was born. He has always felt as though there were certain things he didnt know or understand. Little does he know that he would one day realize everything.
Element- Fire
Age: 19
Hieght: 6'0
Class: Soul Seeker
Weapon: Gauntlets
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v289/Insense343/Resources/BillsFaceRight.png)
-Bills-
A high class knight who guards the king and wishes everything to be right and just. He teaches soldiers how to defend themselves against a real threat in battle and he has guarded the king his whole life, since he was taken in by his highness. Bills never knew his real family because they were killed by evil beings when he was just a baby while the kings army was fighting them.
Element- Lighting
Age: 20
Hieght: 5'10
Class: Knight
Weapon: Sword & Shield
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v289/Insense343/Resources/AdamaFaceRight.png)
-Adama-
A wanderer, whos father was a well known thief who was executed by the king for trying to steal the crown. Now, roaming the vast plains, Adama takes any job for money and with his hatred for all royalty hopes one day he can meet the king who killed his father face to face.
Element- Ice
Age: 23
Hieght: 5'11
Class: Wanderer
Weapon: Bo Staff
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v289/Insense343/Resources/GravinFaceRight.png)
-Gravin-
A young warrior with an unknown past who is looking for answers. He lives in a village with his adoptive parents and does not know of his real family until he discovers the truth behind his heritage.
Element- Holy
Age: 21
Hieght: 6'0
Class: Guardian
Weapon: Great Sword
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v289/Insense343/Resources/XanderFaceRight.png)
-Xander-
A dark knight who was taken from his family as a child and forced to learn the ways of the fiends. Growing up he always questioned himself and who he really was or is. Not really knowing right from wrong all the time he travels and blindly obeys his "fathers" orders.
Element- Dark
Age: 23
Hieght: 6'3
Class: Fiend Master
Weapon: Dual Swords
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v289/Insense343/Resources/EvraFaceRight.png)
-Evra-
A young priestess of the ocean who has an extraordinary potential in casting. Because of her well known casting she is constantly guarded by mercenaries so she isnt kidnapped by evil fiend lords.
Element- Water
Age: 19
Hieght: 5'5
Class: Priestess
Weapon: Staff
-Systems-
Sprite Sized Battle Characters
Night/Day System
Run & Jump System
Difficulty System- Easy, Normal, and Insane
The different difficulties make it easier or harder to gain stats and also give alternate endings and different secrets.
Point Leveling Up System- The more you do certain things the more certain stats level up Ex. The more you attack the more your strength goes up, the more you get hit your agility goes up etc.
Talk System
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v289/Insense343/Resources/NewestTalkSystem.jpg)
NEW BATTLE CHARACTERS THANX TO GEMINI AND HIS TEMPLATE!
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v289/Insense343/Resources/NewestBattleLook.jpg)
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Kind of interesting... The faces remind me heavily of Fire Emblem... Are those recolors or just the same style? Really can't tell.
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It's back! And it's back, o god yes it is back at last it is back!
I really do hope that you finish it this time around. Got kinda sad when it didn't last time around.
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Prpl_Mage: dont worry ill finish it i have all the common events coded along with every item made and all the common battle events finished so i can stick to the mapping now and not worry about any of the hard stuff
psy_wombats: just recolors but im still deciding if im gunna keep em or make my own
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Glad it's back Insane! Everything looks great as ever! I'm jealous! Lol
I hope you finish it this time around.
If you need any help with anything, let me know. :)
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Ooo... can I touch it?? ...pretty....
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Ooh, can you go into a bit more detail on this Resolve system?
Also, the heavy outlines you used on the overworld character sprites make them look out of place. Maybe try using a coloured outline, or Selective Outlining. :3
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Difficulty levels? That's an idea. I'm not sure anyone would be too interested in the insane level though... Usually games have that because skilled people get more of a kick out of playing the game on hard, but this sounds like it'll just be more grinding between bosses. The alternate endings will have to be pretty damn good :p
Great to see this back. Let's hope you get it finished.
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**** yeah it's back. Sweet.
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Grooveman.exe:
Ahhh the Resolve system... well like a basic limit break you have a bar that fills up and once that bar fills up your attack command changes to Resolve! but thast not all.... once you press on resolve you have a time limit of how long you have to press the combination of buttons at the top. get it right.... and you do the move!.... run out of time and your resolve is wasted.
As you level up you get higher level resolves as well which have different and more difficult combinations.
Moosetroop:
Ive actually been thinking of other perks i can add to doing the Insane mode besides different ending.
Im thinkin about adding a new character and one more level of Resolve per person
Any more ideas id be more then happy to hear em anyone
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This was one of my favourite projects back in the olden days of Charas. I am very happy that it's back. I will be watching this one.
Good to have you back, JP.
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god pm me when you finish this game
as your game look cool one i like to play
i like the looks off Geo and Adama 100%
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I'll say what I said long ago, and that's it looks awesome.
But please, change the faces to more than recolors >_>
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In that thin battle form the faces do look pretty good, though. It's only when they're speaking that it looks obvious.
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Got a release date for any type of demo? I don't think I've ever played this game since it was first conceived. ^-^''
Oh, and by the way, I was browsing GW games, and I came across this game. I recognized some of your sprites in it, so I thought it would be right to bring it to your attention. Just lookin' out for ya.
http://www.gamingw.net/forums/index.php?topic=64664.0
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sounds interesting i'll wait anxiously till u release it
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HELL YEA!
sorry about that I had to say it.
I felt like checking charas today and guess what I find, Fortold Conquest is back!
YAY!!!
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w0000t!!!! Yes it's back, Another one of my favorite Charas games i love to keep tabs on. =D
Great to see you making a return on this.
-Ian
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Originally posted by Linkforce
Got a release date for any type of demo? I don't think I've ever played this game since it was first conceived. ^-^''
Oh, and by the way, I was browsing GW games, and I came across this game. I recognized some of your sprites in it, so I thought it would be right to bring it to your attention. Just lookin' out for ya.
http://www.gamingw.net/forums/index.php?topic=64664.0
It seems that the sprites were in the complete resources. But it was not credited. Immortal Dreamer cleared it up over there i think.
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Originally posted by A Forgotten Legend
Originally posted by Linkforce
Got a release date for any type of demo? I don't think I've ever played this game since it was first conceived. ^-^''
Oh, and by the way, I was browsing GW games, and I came across this game. I recognized some of your sprites in it, so I thought it would be right to bring it to your attention. Just lookin' out for ya.
http://www.gamingw.net/forums/index.php?topic=64664.0
It seems that the sprites were in the complete resources. But it was not credited. Immortal Dreamer cleared it up over there i think.[/B]
Glad to hear that..... dont worry im still workin on this just takin my time cuz or work and stuff! ill keep you guys posted though!
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(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v289/Insense343/Resources/th_TalkinSystem.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v289/Insense343/Resources/?action=view¤t=TalkinSystem.flv)
a lil clip of a talk system im workin on what do you guys think of how im doin the people??
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pretty cool :*:
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(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v289/Insense343/Resources/th_RESOLVE-1.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v289/Insense343/Resources/?action=view¤t=RESOLVE-1.flv)
What my Limit Break System Looks Like So far..... What do you guys think i can do to improve it??
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is this all 2k3 ???
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Damn, and that's all coded in the DBS? That must've taken some time. good job!
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Yea its all 2003 and yeaaa drenrin all in the DBS lol lets just say i have over 50 pages just in my battles
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(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v289/Insense343/Resources/th_TalkinSystem2.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v289/Insense343/Resources/?action=view¤t=TalkinSystem2.flv)
Version 2 of my talk system..... do you guys like the black border? this isnt 100% what itll look like it would have a smoother blend in and out of the event
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It took some time for the news of your return to reach me. In fact, I heard about it today for the first time. Not coming here and reply to this seemed inevitable. I'll spare you the clichés of idle chatters and get to the point.
Having seen this game evolve from it's humble beginning to this day, I can say that it's still is an amazing game. I'm not sure about your new dialog system, it seems way too big to me. To me. Everything else is better than I remembered so all I have to say is that I hope to hear from you soon :P
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Hey man how you ben!! yeaaa pm me when you can..... umm yeaa my talk system basically i just need new facesets cuz i dont wanna use the fire emblem ones cuz everyone does
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I think its good big, myself. Perhaps with more then 2 people it could get cluttered, but as it stands, the people look to be in comfortable conversation distance
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Opinion noted and accepted.. Thanks!
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(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v289/Insense343/Resources/NEWESTBCHARAS.png)
BRAND NEW BATTLE CHARACTERS!!! THANXXX TO GEMINI!!
these are just the bases of them they arent finished yet at all just showin everyone the difference in size and details
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Whoa,awesome JP!Its time someone used a diffrent battle char style.
Looking forward to this,keep the good work.
Btw:Why didn't you add Degree to your charas?He was always my favorite.
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Those are looking pretty spiffy man. Im diggin what you came up with for outfits.
I can hardly wait to see a full on in-game battle with them man.
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Hey glad you guys like em... i have like 3 more characters i need to do
Fisherson: Degree huh? hmmm well im still tryin to pick 2 secret characters so ill keep that in mind
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Yeah!Now i'm double looking forward to this.
Offtopic,could you send me a battle animation battle char,i love your templetes.
Your first one is what got me into making battle charas.If you can PM me with it.
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Fisherson do you mean my sprite sized battle character template??
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No,i ment i battle animation with the poses done,but forget it i'll make one.
What i need is some one to tell me how to stop my battle animations from cutting out when i try to use
the animation as a battle char.I'm using RPG 2003.
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So you meant my template then?lol
Im pretty sure there is just a box you can check, or some sort of trigger somewhere. Not sure with 2k3. I havent used it in a couple of years
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lol yeaaaa no offense Fish but i made the template i have for my own characters so yea your stuck makin your own... sorry man!
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Can the Resolve techs target just a single enemy? Because I've been trying to work out how to do that for a while now, and I've had no luck.
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Yea mine just target one person.... you do it in the battle events you hafta make a page per enemy and say "If Lizard is Picked" use resolve... next page "If Boar Picked" Use Resolve..... etc. etc.
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Hey JP,how are you geting them to loop,i tried what Genini
told and it didn't work,do you have to use a common event or somthing?
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the battle characters? you make them an animation then you make change the animation type where you usually have the battle character information and just choose the animation you made
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Okay i'll give that a try.Hey by the way could you,when you get time add a left
hand attack animation to your old templete,please?Its the unmodifeid one,without the spread legs.
It would realy help my game.The one in my sig.
Sorry i didn't mean to hijack your thread,i'm sorry. :(
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loooks epic. :heart: the realistic battle charas
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(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v289/Insense343/Resources/NEWESTBCHARAS-1.png)
My new Bcharas with there weapons and ready for battle what do you guys think? and yea Geo is a martial artist he just punches and kicks
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I love that sword,dude!aAwesome work,JP,Keep it up.
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Yea mine just target one person.... you do it in the battle events you hafta make a page per enemy and say "If Lizard is Picked" use resolve... next page "If Boar Picked" Use Resolve..... etc. etc.
But what command are you using so you can target to begin with? The only way I can think of to do that is by making it a form of the "Attack" command, and that doesn't work for what I want to do...
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But what command are you using so you can target to begin with? The only way I can think of to do that is by making it a form of the "Attack" command, and that doesn't work for what I want to do...
yeaa my way is my Resolve command is a type of attack
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I hate to be a pain, but I've kinda got a problem with those battlechars...
Because the chars are now much more detailed, it's painfully obvious that all the characters have the same face. They definately all look like clones, and I think that'll be weird once it comes to the battles.
I was thinking maybe you could edit each of the faces and give them a bit more of their own personality. That's just my opinion, though.
Kinda like this, but, you know. Better.
(http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b377/Jimeth/Faces.png)
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Hes got a point i hadn't noticed but they do look alot alike.
Maybe diffrent skin tones too.
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I like there Really BIG EYES lol.
I hope some of them shoot Lazer Beams :D
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Nice b-charas man. The only problem I have with them are the eyes. Makes them look too cartoony IMO. Otherwise keep up the good work! :)
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I hate to be a pain, but I've kinda got a problem with those battlechars...
Because the chars are now much more detailed, it's painfully obvious that all the characters have the same face. They definately all look like clones, and I think that'll be weird once it comes to the battles.
I was thinking maybe you could edit each of the faces and give them a bit more of their own personality. That's just my opinion, though.
Kinda like this, but, you know. Better.
(http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b377/Jimeth/Faces.png)
Ahhhh i DID feel like there was something missing!.... well thanks to everyone ill get on that
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(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v289/Insense343/Resources/GEOFACENEWcopy.jpg)
What does everyone think of this faceset style???
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Yes, awesome indeed.
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I dig the face man.
Its got a real clean look to it.
Id maybe add a bit of shading to the battle sprites eyes to show the eyebrow a bit more.
Also, Ive started the bases of the Big template, and a more feminine female set. theyre in the gallery if you want to check the progress, But theyre still pretty bare bones. I get three days off this week, so Im thinking Ill be done them then, or Sunday at the latest
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Nice glad some people like it! it was a XP/VX template i found and i liked the style so i tried it
Gemini..... Take your time lol who cares how long it takes
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Is this game RMXP or 2K3? If its 2K3 how do you get the battle menus to look like [] [] [] [] in stead of [_____]?
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its 2k3
Theres a standard setting like that you just have to design teh face sets a certain way as well
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I love the face set man!It's got a cool new style about it.Mind if i barow it?
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(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v289/Insense343/Resources/NewestTalkSystem.jpg)
What it looks like in Game
Fisherson...... i actually would mind..... ive ben tryin to find a faceset that no one is using so my game can be different.... it would defeat the purpose if i said sure you can use it.... but if you ever find the one i found online then i cant stop you
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It's okay,man i know how you feel i just wanted to make some art work for
my gallery and stuff.This new talk system is awesome,good work.
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Seeing the facesets like that they look really small. Maybe make them a little bit wider and taller.
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(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v289/Insense343/Resources/NewestBattleLook.jpg)
heres it all together inside the battle system
RED FOX: Noted... Thanx!! Ill Def keep that in mind
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Did you draw everthing yourself? The monster looks really good.
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Did you draw everthing yourself? The monster looks really good.
Everything but the monsters i usually do... ive never done a monster yet maybe i should lol glad ya like the rest tho
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I like the animie look to the face sets in battle,very good job.
I like the porportions of everything it fits togehter with everything nicely.
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I Was thinkin today that the Normal sized template that Gemini made might be too big for my taste in 2k3 and i thought i would like something smaller..... Then i realized that Gemini made a smaller template and i think it works to my taste a little better.... the proportions are better and i think they match the facsets better as well
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v289/Insense343/Resources/BCharaIdeaInBattle.jpg)
These are just rough drafts of the characters so there not posed or anything
Opinions????
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Aye, awesome indeed they are.
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Thanks Red Fox!
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v289/Insense343/Resources/AllNew.jpg)
a look at all the characters Bases..... whats everyone think?
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I like these better.
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I like the bodies better, but the faces dont sit right with me. I think you may need to try to alter the heads to look a bit more like the previous versions. If the Eyes were elongated downward by on vertical pixel, and the mouths were shifted lower on the heads, i think it would look nicer. Aside from that Im diggin it though
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I like the bodies better, but the faces dont sit right with me. I think you may need to try to alter the heads to look a bit more like the previous versions. If the Eyes were elongated downward by on vertical pixel, and the mouths were shifted lower on the heads, i think it would look nicer. Aside from that Im diggin it though
Ahhh i seee where your coming from lol but they have no mouths.... those are their noses!!
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They look good but as a personal opinion, they all have a leaning back "you lookin at me" kind of pose. Wemon aren't really bulky but fragile. And templates are nice BUT not every person looks alike. The girl has muscles as big as the men. Just a personal opinion though.
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They look good but as a personal opinion, they all have a leaning back "you lookin at me" kind of pose. Wemon aren't really bulky but fragile. And templates are nice BUT not every person looks alike. The girl has muscles as big as the men. Just a personal opinion though.
Dont worry! these are just base poses.... i havent done any poses for them yet i just wanted to see if anyone liked the style.... im gunna fix all that :-P
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Well the character look nice and original, I can't draw to save my life and its nice to see a game where I haven't seen downloaded stuff already. Keep it up.
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I made a spriting tutorial in the tuts section and Gemini Gallery is where he has a bunch of templates hes done.... why not just try some? i wasnt always good either man
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Woah. I thought they were the mouths too. I thought you'd given them massive chins XD
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I might give it a try on my next game. I've already souped up some old battlechars I found and I think they fit in nicely with my game. But to fix the nose problem I would just add a dot at the end to extend them.
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Woah. I thought they were the mouths too. I thought you'd given them massive chins XD
XD ok i gotta figure this out lol no nose OR no mouth
I might give it a try on my next game. I've already souped up some old battlechars I found and I think they fit in nicely with my game. But to fix the nose problem I would just add a dot at the end to extend them.
I might give it a try on my next game. I've already souped up some old battlechars I found and I think they fit in nicely with my game. But to fix the nose problem I would just add a dot at the end to extend them.
Ahhh i COULD do that one dot thing but they arent completely sideways so i cant really do that... it looks wierd
Oh and hey if you wanna try regular sprite sized bcharas by yourself first i have template i made back in the day in the complete resources just search my name :-)
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Thanks and good luck with the graphics. The guy on the far right has some cool looking armor, but im not really digging what kinda looks like a thong on the far left... J/k
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Comparing the faces to the sprites you got there, I'd say to just get rid of the nose line and make the eyes bigger. That way, the face pic's will match the sprites more stylistically.
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Comparing the faces to the sprites you got there, I'd say to just get rid of the nose line and make the eyes bigger. That way, the face pic's will match the sprites more stylistically.
YES!!! lol that makes sense thanx man :-)
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I agree with bluhman 2000%
Even enlarging the eyes may make the nose look more nose ish.
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Im doing that now :-P
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Yeah I think that would work best for them, except I think the eyes are the right shape as is.
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(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v289/Insense343/Resources/AllNew2.jpg)
Ok Faces Edited so they have noses bigger eyes and mouths and Heights edited..... My girl i tried to make a lil bit more girly in that pose
What you guys think??
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much better
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Just like I said before I like the eyes smaller but still nice. What I think would help the girl look more feminan would be a londger dress, smaller fists, and mabey the breasts are a bit too emphasized. PM me if you want and I'll edit her and show you what I mean.
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I must admit they look much better than the gaint BC's lol
I like the simple nose and new style,it works good but be sure
to compare them to your other enemies first,just because they
look good fighting that one dosn't mean they will look that way when
fighting enemies smaller than them or biger than them.
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Just like I said before I like the eyes smaller but still nice. What I think would help the girl look more feminan would be a londger dress, smaller fists, and mabey the breasts are a bit too emphasized. PM me if you want and I'll edit her and show you what I mean.
Im actually gunan use a new templete for her so ill be posting that too!
I must admit they look much better than the gaint BC's lol
I like the simple nose and new style,it works good but be sure
to compare them to your other enemies first,just because they
look good fighting that one dosn't mean they will look that way when
fighting enemies smaller than them or biger than them.
Ahh i see what you mean but its easier to scale the enemies up or down cuz there just pictures
Glad to see you guys like them tho :-D
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i like them with the enlarged eyes, and i dont think you should chage anything, structurally speaking.
Im really looking forward to seeing if you come up with anything out of the poses im working on now.
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yeaaa and with all the poses ill end up doing myself cuz i love making really flashy special moves lol any you wanna have to hollow out for your own purposes let me know cuz im not guna give those to just anyone
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Thanks dude. Dont worry about me man....I have the master sheet.
The poses are all yours. Allthough, I wouldnt mind having a glimpse of the sheets of these flashy moves you speak of....strictly for the sake of examination.
The master sheet in the template thread will probably help you. Ive made some additional torsoes as well in case you get into the mood for making big boobed giant women, Or fat people. Ill be posting the add-ons later today.
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Nicee..... ill wait a few days cuz i know how you like to alter stuff al the time and update lol but def keep me updated and yea when i finish the bcharas im gunan move onto the moves and ill give ya a glimpse of some of them for examination lol
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i just get to busy doing stuff for my game i never update it! hahaha well im doing the battle characters still cuz ive done the blank spritesheet so now im making the blank one all my charas.
Besides that i made a new chara template the other day and i do say i have fallen in love with it so i plan to redo all my basic characters in it!
its this first template i made and ill be using the other 2 in my game as well
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v289/Insense343/Resources/CustomCharaTemplatewithExample.png)
example in game
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v289/Insense343/Resources/CustomCharaSetInGame.jpg)
Whats everyone think?
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that looks sick dude.
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PERSONALLY I think they dont fit too well. They just seem like they're too tall. But thats just my opinion. It's good to know you're still working on the game though. Aside from the sprites, the screen looks great. Keep it up! :)
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I think it looks good JP. Its a different style of chara but it looks good.
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PERSONALLY I think they dont fit too well. They just seem like they're too tall. But thats just my opinion. It's good to know you're still working on the game though. Aside from the sprites, the screen looks great. Keep it up! :)
how do they look to tall to you if they are the same size as the door they walk thru?
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Well people are usually shorter than the doors they walk through :P.
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(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v289/Insense343/Resources/NewStyleMainCharas.png)
well the new style main characters look like this? of course this isnt everyone but figured id show some of them!
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i dig it man
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Dunno if this has alrady been said but Adama reminds me of Blank from FF9
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Dunno if this has alrady been said but Adama reminds me of Blank from FF9
ben said but he has reasons behind why he wears what he wears =) youll find out in the game!
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MY BATTLE CHARACTERS
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v289/Insense343/Resources/SampleBattleCharacter.jpg)
using one of Geminis templates i have made my own sprite sheet of poses for my battle characters... this is what im mostly doing now for my game because im done with all my common events and every battle event except bosses and story fights.
This is just a sample because i dont want people using my sprite sheet.... sorry guys =)
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nice work broseph
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Wow! you've come so far since the last time my eyes last passed over your project. That must have been over a year ago at least. :P
I'm impressed! From what I can remember this project was always good, but now you've not made it easy to wait for release. Keep up the good work.
I like the way you've decided to approach character design, but if you intend to make custom tall map chars you're going to have a lot of work on you. Well - that is if you intend to design all other NPCs in the game from base yourself.
When you have time why don't you release a teaser of sorts, show us the first 10 or 15 minutes of the game so we get a feel for it. ;)
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Nice stuff. I actually really like the look of the tall sprite in that screen. I'm slightly worried that you'll spend too much time worrying about the aesthetics and never actually finish the game, but I know you've got the intelligence and ability to do it, at least :p