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Off-Topic => All of all! => Topic started by: Vivi21 on August 07, 2009, 03:26:51 AM

Title: Are the rm2k3 translation versions illegal?
Post by: Vivi21 on August 07, 2009, 03:26:51 AM
I heard they were considered piracy and that some sites have stopped hosting the translated versions for this very reason.
Title: Re: Are the rm2k3 translation versions illegal?
Post by: Archem on August 07, 2009, 03:56:48 AM
Yes.
Title: Re: Are the rm2k3 translation versions illegal?
Post by: carrionmarksman on August 07, 2009, 03:58:52 AM
I thought things were all fine and dandy. Wow :(
Title: Re: Are the rm2k3 translation versions illegal?
Post by: Vivi21 on August 07, 2009, 04:01:25 AM
Heh really?   Well then how come everyone's getting away with it?
Title: Re: Are the rm2k3 translation versions illegal?
Post by: Legacy of Elecrusher on August 07, 2009, 04:27:38 AM
Heh really?   Well then how come everyone's getting away with it?
The sheer amount of work and manpower required to track down and sue every last person who's ever downloaded it would be a huge waste of resources.
Title: Re: Are the rm2k3 translation versions illegal?
Post by: Ben on August 07, 2009, 04:32:51 AM
its pretty much abandonware for enterbrain at this point anyhow.
Title: Re: Are the rm2k3 translation versions illegal?
Post by: Vivi21 on August 07, 2009, 06:10:56 AM
Oh so they really don't care.   Good, cuz I love rm2k3.   I can't even find the Japanese version anywhere on the net, I've looked
Title: Re: Are the rm2k3 translation versions illegal?
Post by: Uberpwn_w00t on August 07, 2009, 06:28:29 AM
Heh really?   Well then how come everyone's getting away with it?
lol.

The same reason everybody gets away with every other type of piracy. Nobody cares. It's not a big deal.
Title: Re: Are the rm2k3 translation versions illegal?
Post by: Drace on August 07, 2009, 09:28:23 AM
Oh so they really don't care.   Good, cuz I love rm2k3.   I can't even find the Japanese version anywhere on the net, I've looked

You ***, that's not how it works. Just because you download the Japanese doesn't make it legal. It's illegal because you downloaded it, regardless of translation.

The reason why the English version will always be illegal is because there was no official translation so everyone who wanted to use it who didn't knew Japanese was forced to download it illegally.

If you want legal, buy the Japanese version.
If you want to understand the program, go for the English illegal version.
Title: Re: Are the rm2k3 translation versions illegal?
Post by: Vivi21 on August 07, 2009, 12:24:04 PM
Wow, first time I had someone cuss me out here, it's kinda humorous really.   Accually, the reason I was looking for the Japanese version was because I want to make a game in Japanese real bad [yeah I'm weird I know it].   I wasn't gonna release it of course but I just wanted to make a Japanese game....
Title: Re: Are the rm2k3 translation versions illegal?
Post by: Vlad Shadeu on August 07, 2009, 04:13:57 PM
Can you really say "Cussed you out" if he layed down a string of three asterisks? And dont blame him for calling you stupid and then bring in information that makes it make sense AFTERWARD.

Also, yeah. Either version is illegal.
Title: Re: Are the rm2k3 translation versions illegal?
Post by: Drace on August 07, 2009, 08:23:50 PM
Wow, first time I had someone cuss me out here, it's kinda humorous really.

Well actually, I said ass, which is different word for donkey. Which implies I find you dumb.
Title: Re: Are the rm2k3 translation versions illegal?
Post by: fruckert on August 07, 2009, 08:26:15 PM
Which is either a very good implication or a very bad one when you have to explain it.

Anyways, Drace is right.
...
*runs*
Title: Re: Are the rm2k3 translation versions illegal?
Post by: Vivi21 on August 07, 2009, 09:40:32 PM
Meh, I've been called worse.   I'm not dumb though, I'm accually quite smart.   Still though I couldn't find the Japanese version but why would that too be illegal if it's the original version the sold?   Unless people have found a way to access it illegally.
Title: Re: Are the rm2k3 translation versions illegal?
Post by: chronoman on August 07, 2009, 09:41:26 PM
Unless people have found a way to access it illegally.
Never
Title: Re: Are the rm2k3 translation versions illegal?
Post by: Dragonium on August 07, 2009, 09:43:52 PM
It's illegal to distribute the maker because it was translated into English without permission.

It's illegal to sell your games for profit.

That's about it.
Title: Re: Are the rm2k3 translation versions illegal?
Post by: Ben on August 07, 2009, 09:46:29 PM
You can purchase the legal japanese version, in theory, and then find an unofficial english patch. Then its unoffically legal. Asking questions of this sort is no grounds for public scorn.


Drace, quit trying to bypass the word filters please. ;)
Title: Re: Are the rm2k3 translation versions illegal?
Post by: Drace on August 07, 2009, 11:22:36 PM
I'm not dumb though, I'm accually quite smart.

Statements like these are exactly those that make people doubt your intelligence. Especially when you're making a thread asking the obvious.

-------------

To gem:

I had to find some way to use the word. Still, it's an animal. weenie isn't censored so why would *** be?

EDIT:

I actually find weenie worse than cock, for some reason.
Title: Re: Are the rm2k3 translation versions illegal?
Post by: MissingName on August 07, 2009, 11:27:45 PM
I guess we won't even mention illegal versions of RMXP.

Not that I have it, though...
Title: Re: Are the rm2k3 translation versions illegal?
Post by: Ben on August 08, 2009, 12:29:27 AM
Quote
I'm not dumb though, I'm accually quite smart.
lol



Also, Drace, dont piss on my head and tell me its raining.



On another note....

There are Illegal version of every game maker out there. XP, 2k3, 2k, VX, AGM. There are also legal trial versions of all of them, with the exception of 2k and 2k3.
You can discuss them all you want. AGM is currently only released officially in japanese, but an english patch was made by fans some months ago. You can discuss these makers all you want. The thing you CANT discuss is where to find Illegal copies of these. You Also cant post links to illegal copies. Basically, there are Illegal copies out the hoo-ha out there, and youre free to discuss them all you want....but then again, if youre using the illegal copies, then personally, i think youre an ***hole. You are then the reason why I had to pay 120 bucks for my legit copy of AGM. And however much I paid for my legit XP, and VX. Strangely, GM was the cheapest one i ever bought.

Title: Re: Are the rm2k3 translation versions illegal?
Post by: Prpl_Mage on August 08, 2009, 01:52:27 AM
You can probably find the japaneese version if you own a japanese keyboard and types in japanese.
Title: Re: Are the rm2k3 translation versions illegal?
Post by: HobomasterXXX on August 08, 2009, 02:18:23 AM
AGM is currently only released officially in japanese
It's officialy in English, under the name "Indie Game Maker"
Title: Re: Are the rm2k3 translation versions illegal?
Post by: Ben on August 08, 2009, 02:28:20 AM
link to official website?
Because i googled that and found no official site...and did only find blogs about agm, and game maker development sites.
Its an official legal english? link for great justice
Title: Re: Are the rm2k3 translation versions illegal?
Post by: Vivi21 on August 08, 2009, 04:11:14 AM
I have a legal version of vx it cost me 60 bucks which I think is too much when, in my opinion, is a downgrade from rm2k3 and xp.   I bought it long before I downloaded rm2k3.   I just googled rm2k3 and found the englosh download.   I did download it knowing it was illegal but still no one really seems to care I mean it's not like I'm hurting anyone.  I also know that vx has scrpt features but I don't know how to script and don't have the pacience for it.   
Title: Re: Are the rm2k3 translation versions illegal?
Post by: supasora on August 09, 2009, 12:31:52 AM
Yeah! stick it to the man.
Title: Re: Are the rm2k3 translation versions illegal?
Post by: fruckert on August 09, 2009, 12:44:57 AM
Yeah! stick it to the man.
Yeah!
Make them go bankrupt from not buying their products, but having them anyways!
Title: Re: Are the rm2k3 translation versions illegal?
Post by: supasora on August 09, 2009, 12:52:47 AM
Yeah!
Make them go bankrupt from not buying their products, but having them anyways!
Thats the way I role... theyed problably have less of a problem if they would have realesed it here but it wouldnt eliminate its illegal distribution.
Title: Re: Are the rm2k3 translation versions illegal?
Post by: Vivi21 on August 09, 2009, 02:01:55 AM
So tired and can't see straight...   But yeah Japan keeps most of the cool stuff for themselves.   They throw us bones every now and again but they just like to keep most of the cool stuff.   Either that or we're too lazy to translate some of it.   rm2k3, in my opinion, is the coolest version cuz it has the side view battle system.   .   They should have known from the start that we'd translate it for ourselves.  Japan did give us Final Fantasy and  other cool games but they keep alot of stuff for themselves.   Well atleast FF Dissidia is coming here.   I really wish they'd give us Tales of the World Radient Mythology 2 though.
Title: Re: Are the rm2k3 translation versions illegal?
Post by: supasora on August 09, 2009, 02:07:21 AM
the dissidia demo is almost good enough to pay 5 dollars for.
Title: Re: Are the rm2k3 translation versions illegal?
Post by: Legacy of Elecrusher on August 09, 2009, 02:18:14 AM
This topic needs to be about real pirates now.
Title: Re: Are the rm2k3 translation versions illegal?
Post by: MissingName on August 09, 2009, 02:24:57 AM
Yar har fiddle de dee

. . . and I'm done being a pirate.
For now.
Title: Re: Are the rm2k3 translation versions illegal?
Post by: Emerates on August 09, 2009, 03:48:49 AM
I'm the Octopus.  I got eighta everything!




And yes, they're illegal.
Title: Re: Are the rm2k3 translation versions illegal?
Post by: Drace on August 09, 2009, 05:59:02 AM
This topic needs to be about real pirates now.

Dit yar shout Pirate Metal me landlubber? *points to Alestorm*
Title: Re: Are the rm2k3 translation versions illegal?
Post by: Legacy of Elecrusher on August 09, 2009, 04:14:29 PM
I'm the Octopus.  I got eighta everything!
(http://www.videogamesprites.net/FinalFantasy6/Bosses/11%20-%20Ultros.gif)
Title: Re: Are the rm2k3 translation versions illegal?
Post by: MissingName on August 09, 2009, 05:26:58 PM
I have Photoshop CS3, Arabic edition.

Now I'm a Somalian pirate.
Title: Re: Are the rm2k3 translation versions illegal?
Post by: Vivi21 on August 11, 2009, 03:10:46 AM
Ummmm, so this topic is about all things pirates now huh?   
Title: Re: Are the rm2k3 translation versions illegal?
Post by: fruckert on August 11, 2009, 03:18:08 AM
Yargh.
Title: Re: Are the rm2k3 translation versions illegal?
Post by: MissingName on August 11, 2009, 03:10:55 PM
Got bored in driver's ed this morning, so I started doodling.  The people next to me were talking about pirates...
and this came out in about a minute.

(http://i874.photobucket.com/albums/ab303/MissingName/pirate.png)

The parrot's head was originally nailed on upside down.
Title: Re: Are the rm2k3 translation versions illegal?
Post by: Vivi21 on August 11, 2009, 03:55:30 PM
not bad.