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Off-Topic => All of all! => Topic started by: supasora on August 23, 2009, 11:17:12 PM
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I like the whole steampunk style its cool. Im making this thread though because I feel the definition has become WAY to big. The other day my sister was trying to tell me that Mad Max and Final Fantasy 1-5 and #8 were steampunk. She also said something to the effect that anything with an airship regardless of how its powerd is steampunk. Any thoughts?
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My thoughts: Your sister is stupid.
Well thing is I searched on google and other people say the same things as her.
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It also depends on the time. 1 and 2 are based in a time with little actual technology. And having an airship give a steampunk effect, however, I would put them more into the fantasy category.
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It also depends on the time. 1 and 2 are based in a time with little actual technology. And having an airship give a steampunk effect, however, I would put them more into the fantasy category.
I'd say 1-5 are fantasy, 6 is steampunk, 7 is cyberpunk (which is not a sub catagory of steampunk like my sister said), 8 is modern/sci fi, 9 is fantasy again, 10 is about a guy from a sci fi past going to a fantasy land
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So, yeah, ign'ant ****.
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Mad max is more post-apocalyptic.
The first couple final fantasy is more fantasy because there were very few steampunk elements.
FF 9 is closer to steampunk since they had steampowered ships and the mist, they characters also dress quite olde'.
Also 6, many steamy stuff there.
7,8 are more sci-fi than steampunk.
10 isn't neither sci-fi nor steampunk.
12 sucks
Steampunk is the future(or something like it) if we stuck to steamengines, clockwork, quicksilver and all those stuff. Japanese people like the thoughts of it.
(PS, V for vendetta is more Neo-something* than actual steampunk.
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Steampunk is the future(or something like it) if we stuck to steamengines, clockwork, quicksilver and all those stuff.
I'm nor a steampunk professor or anything, but I always thought it was a "what if, about a hundred years back, people built technology decades ahead of their time that focused on steam power" thing.
Also, I'm going to start calling Supasora "SS". Yes, there's Nazism reference there. So what?
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I'm nor a steampunk professor or anything, but I always thought it was a "what if, about a hundred years back, people built technology decades ahead of their time that focused on steam power" thing.
I'm pretty sure you're right.
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12 sucks...
The best thing I heard all day.
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My sister is playing XII now.
Gotta say, give me a copy of VI, VII or VIII and I'm happy.
Also, I'm going to start calling Supasora "SS". Yes, there's Nazism reference there. So what?
Godwin's law
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The Schutzstaffel, abbreviated SS, was a major Nazi organization under Adolf Hitler and the Nazi Party.
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Steampunk IS variable. It can have fantasy elements, heck, it is a KIND of fantasy. Just that it has to be more technologically Steampunk than just having an airship. Needs more steampunk technology and elements, like gear driven machinery, boilers, etc.
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Like this?
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Like this?
Yeah, it's kind of like that
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Archem is the one who hit it closest to home.
And if you want to see one of the best Steampunk definitions out there, go find a copy of Arcanum: of Steamworks and Magick Obscura.
Best Steampunk game out there, IMPO.
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Despite there being very scant few games that can qualify as Steampunk.
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Archem is the one who hit it closest to home.
And if you want to see one of the best Steampunk definitions out there, go find a copy of Arcanum: of Steamworks and Magick Obscura.
Best Steampunk game out there, IMPO.
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Despite there being very scant few games that can qualify as Steampunk.
they need more steampunk games.
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Indubitafiably justificied.
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they need more steampunk games.
There's a PS2 game called "Steambot Chronicles" that's pretty steampunk.
Also, I agree on the aisrship front. The way I see it, Steampunk can be set from the beginning of steam-power forward (you can get around that by changing when steam became the main power source). But it needs to have more than just an airship or two. Another common feature is imagining the possibility if discarded scientific theories from the period were true.
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Spontaneous life?
Hmm...
*notes to try to insert that into Myrdia*
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Yeah. I guess steampunk is becoming trendy though and people are trying to jack up the meaning. Mad Max is apparently steampunk because a bunch of alternative people were problably like "Wow I like the style of this movie, we should call it deisel punk and make that a part of a sub genre of steampunk!" I liked it better when it was about steam in a victorian setting. Mad Max is not steampunk...
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That's ****ing post-nuclear. Gawd.
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just google "steampunk mad max" and one of the first results is an article where a chick thinks she's steampunk 'cause she dresses like mad max. I'd put a link but Im lazy.
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just google "steampunk mad max" and one of the first results is an article where a chick thinks she's steampunk 'cause she dresses like mad max.
1. I'll check it out!
2. How does dressing as someone from a post-apocalyptic civilisation in which steam does not feature make you STEAM-punk? AGH! I feel sick just thinking about it. We need to DO something about this!
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1. I'll check it out!
2. How does dressing as someone from a post-apocalyptic civilisation in which steam does not feature make you STEAM-punk? AGH! I feel sick just thinking about it. We need to DO something about this!
From a "steampunk" persons perspective... "Well... they dress cool..."
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Overall, steampunk is in the technology. Not just in the way of dressing. The definition is not so rigid, but Mad Max isn't steampunk.
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Plus, MAD-MAX IS POST-APOC, WHICH IS VERY FAR FROM STEAMPUNK.
*coughs*
Sorry, I'm allergic to stupid, it irritates my throat.
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Overall, steampunk is in the technology. Not just in the way of dressing. The definition is not so rigid, but Mad Max isn't steampunk.
I'm sue the time period is important, since many other time periods have alternative fuel sources that replace steam. For example, we use electricity for everything.
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Electricity was available during Victorian times =P
They just didn't use it for as much stuff as we do now, because the technology wasn't there yet, because it was freshly discovered for the uses at the time.
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Exactly my point. It wasn't as refined/readily available as it is today, so alternate fuel and power sources were used.
And to break a possible attempt at contradiction: We use many fuels to create electricity, which is what we use. Kind of like how we use fossil fuels to create gasoline for our vehicles: Nobody puts unrefined oil to make their cars go. **** doesn't work.