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Off-Topic => All of all! => Topic started by: Grandy on December 19, 2009, 03:59:51 AM
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Am I the only one that kept thinking "This is basically what Final Fantasy the Movie should have been"?
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I'll be seeing it soon. I'll be back to you on that to tell you what I thought...
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I think it looks retarded. Summarize the plot for me. Feel free to include spoilers, but be sure to spoiler tag them. I want to see just how close my assumptions are to the real deal.
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Something about blue people with tails. It looks retarded, but the feedback has been fairly positive. Of course, as we all know, everyone who isn't a charasian is a brainless fool, so we'll see how that turns out.
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I think it looks overhyped but according to everyone that I know who isn't a moron who's seen it it kind of deserves it.
Anyway:
[spoiler=Plot, kind of]
Apparently the plot, of course, has to do with the Na'vi, the blue people (Hey, listen!).
They're the native residents of Pandora, the planet with the floating landmasses that are physically impossible.
The whole "Avatar" part comes in when apparently, either by capturing or cloning them, we are able to control them remotely.
While we are controlling them, we experience everything as they would.
I have a feeling that the plot from there goes as expected.
Oh, and the main character is paraplegic, and one of the Avatars, so he can walk again while doing it.
[/spoiler]
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I heard that the graphics are just about the only thing going for it.
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Call me a cheesy girly-man, but I actually liked Titanic; this guy has a pretty good track record from the sound of things. I wouldn't pay to go see this, but I'll probably end up watching it on HBO or something.
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Call me a cheesy girly-man, but I actually liked Titanic; this guy has a pretty good track record from the sound of things. I wouldn't pay to go see this, but I'll probably end up watching it on HBO or something.
You're cheery girly-man.
Nah, actually I want to see this too. 18 years in the making? Overhyped? It can be some lulz.
No, but you are a cheey girly-man.
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Actually, as a charasian I must say I was really impressed by the movie.
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Avata hope to see on 20th sunday school day out with the kids
the move boys love it when we go up as its full of kids 100 in all then all the mums an dads
so in all 300 of use are going to see it that there xmes box from me and adam this year
you work it £2.50p x 300 money in the bank to the move boys and why not
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I heard that the graphics are just about the only thing going for it.
Oh dear. The CG isn't even that fantastic, either.
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sorry to say the lord can have a front site with the kids
That reads so wrong.
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AVUTAR IS JES THUH TOOL UH THUH LIBRUL AJENDUH.
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The trailers for this movie have pretty much given away the entire plot.
That alone feels bad, but I had no interest in it anyway.
I think it's bad form to advertise the movie as "the most expensive movie ever". How will that make people want to watch it?
If they told me "there's a dancing bear" I would be all over that ****.
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The trailers for this movie have pretty much given away the entire plot.
So? The plot of The Lord of the Rings was given away in the first trailer, and look at what spawned.
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I decided not to see this movie after I read an interview where James Cameron said of the design of his female alien character:
Right from the beginning I said, "She's got to have tits," even though that makes no sense because her race, the Na'vi, aren't placental mammals.
Yeah, way to stick to the official canon of your universe there, James.
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Does anyone else feel a similarity to Nightcrawler from X-Men here?
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Okay, just saw it, some thoughts that are spoiler-free.
The CG was amazing (anyone who says it isn't is just being a dick) and some of the themes involving the alien life were fairly clever, but it's not something I felt I hadn't seen before. I'm not going to talk about the plot but pretty much all the stuff from the trailer happens exactly how you'd expect it to. If I had been given the entire cast list and a brief bio on each character, I could have told you who lived or died and how and I would have been disturbing close. The action sequences followed predictable outcome: "good side starts losing, but wait, ace in the hole!" repeated four or five times. It never really built much suspense because you knew the main characters were in no real danger. Though I guess I'm slipping into criticism on movies in general and not just Avatar, so maybe it's not fair to count that against it. But then again, I heard this was supposed to redefine movies entirely, and so I'm left with wondering how it was supposed to do so when it followed almost all established guidelines for plots and characters.
It was definitely a GOOD movie. I sure don't feel like I wasted my time or my money. And after watching the trailers for upcoming movies and having them all pretty much look worse than Avatar, I can say it's one of the better movies. If it hadn't been hyped up so high as it was it would probably be amazing and get very little criticism. But people are expecting the best movie ever made, which is all sorts of impossible, so of course "not as good as the hype" is going to be a common response.
I'd say go see it. There's no real reason not to, unless you just don't like action sci-fi fantasy-ish sort of movies. It's not groundbreaking, but it does what it does well.
I decided not to see this movie after I read an interview where James Cameron said of the design of his female alien character:
Yeah, way to stick to the official canon of your universe there, James.
Eh? Early on in the movie the dialog calls the aliens mammals, and the defining characteristic of a mammal is the females having mammary glands, aka tits. I don't know of any creature that is roughly their shape that ISN'T a mammal, so what's the big problem here? If you want to complain about the exobiology in the movie you could poke a bazillion holes in Avatar's alien life, but you could do that for pretty much every sci-fi ever made, so that's hardly fair. You either buy the fact the aliens look sort of humanoid or you don't.
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Does anyone else feel a similarity to Nightcrawler from X-Men here?
Not really. Nightcrawler was blue, but was much less feline-like, and not six feet tall either.
Having said that, I said to my friend a few jokes about how "I've never seen the smurfs so worked up before!" on some action scenes.
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i heard avatar was pretty good so i might go see it
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avatar game any one ?
http://www.littlewoods.com/rf//navigation/mainsearchthumbs.do?Nty=1&Ntx=mode%20matchallpartial&Ntk=generic_search&N=85+103&Nu=this_product&Ntt=Avatar%20Games&Np=1
saving up for the pc one
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Eh? Early on in the movie the dialog calls the aliens mammals, and the defining characteristic of a mammal is the females having mammary glands, aka tits. I don't know of any creature that is roughly their shape that ISN'T a mammal, so what's the big problem here? If you want to complain about the exobiology in the movie you could poke a bazillion holes in Avatar's alien life, but you could do that for pretty much every sci-fi ever made, so that's hardly fair. You either buy the fact the aliens look sort of humanoid or you don't.
If the movie calls them mammals, then why does he state in an interview that they aren't?
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Retcon during film production to make it make scientific sense, I'd think.
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avatar game any one ?
http://www.littlewoods.com/rf//navigation/mainsearchthumbs.do?Nty=1&Ntx=mode%20matchallpartial&Ntk=generic_search&N=85+103&Nu=this_product&Ntt=Avatar%20Games&Np=1
saving up for the pc one
Only thing I find interesting about the game is that it's the first game to officially support that new 3D technology. I saw a demo of that stuff a while back, running Burnout Paradise. It was mighty amazing. If that stuff starts becoming a normal game feature, I'll never spend another moment away from my GameStation 3.
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Only thing I find interesting about the game is that it's the first game to officially support that new 3D technology. I saw a demo of that stuff a while back, running Burnout Paradise. It was mighty amazing. If that stuff starts becoming a normal game feature, I'll never spend another moment away from my GameStation 3.
I'm pretty sure Borderlands supports 3D. Assuming you're talking of the 3D I think you are.
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He changed his mind after the interview?
Or maybe they're mammals, just not placental mammals. :P
It was prolly a joke. =p
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I'm pretty sure Borderlands supports 3D. Assuming you're talking of the 3D I think you are.
Stereoscopic 3D.
Like the one that that Sly Cooper game tried to do at the very end that I never checked out because that game is pretty embarrassing to buy alone.
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I can't say whether this or District 9 was better. They are both somewhat similar, and I thoroughly enjoyed both movies.
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Well I kind want to see after seeing Dances With Smurfs, but I never could figure out why this movie is such a big deal though I have yet to see it.
Though I find it kind of funny and incredibly stupid how the movie is creating controversy because there are no openly gay blue people.
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...are you serious.
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...are you serious.
Yes, you didn't know LGBT set a day aside to protest the movie for that reason. http://www.dallasvoice.com/instant-tea/2009/12/16/lgbt-site-marks-friday-as-the-international-day-of-protest-against-avatar/
LBGT is going to end up like PETA.
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This can only be another form of Human Stupidity Syndrome.
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"Buy tickets in bulk but do not attend showings."
That's just defeating the purpose of "I hate you".
They do make their money from the ticket sales after all.
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Though I find it kind of funny and incredibly stupid how the movie is creating controversy because there are no openly gay blue people.
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Yes, you didn't know LGBT set a day aside to protest the movie for that reason. http://www.dallasvoice.com/instant-tea/2009/12/16/lgbt-site-marks-friday-as-the-international-day-of-protest-against-avatar/
LBGT is going to end up like PETA.
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It may be my belief that killing is bad... but in this case... it'd be a service to the world. PURGE PETA AND LBGT FROM EXISTENCE! HELL YEAH! Or legally title them as what they really are: Terrorists.
This can only be another form of Human Stupidity Syndrome.
"Buy tickets in bulk but do not attend showings."
That's just defeating the purpose of "I hate you".
They do make their money from the ticket sales after all.
...yup.
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LBGT imo are becoming like PETA by actually doing something as stupid as protesting Avatar because its a movie where blue aliens aren't gay (because there is no point to it when they could be doing something actually important) is just like Perez Hilton scolding that girl running for Miss America for saying gay people shouldn't get married because it wasn't the anwser he wanted to his question.
Just so no one thinks i'm being biased I am for gay rights but its things like this that just blow my mind at the hypocrisy and idiocy and the buying tickets in bulk order when I read that I kept wondering how is giving the movie money and not seeing really making a statment. I guess they just buy as many tickets so no one can see the movie but still it is just...stupid.
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The way they want to protest is just plain stupid. But the reason is even worse.
I doubt people will take them seriously if they complain for such idiocy.
But remember, HSS can strike anyone, anywhere, anytime.
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And it's just avatar. That doesn't quite make sense to me. Why not protest every other new release for not having openly LGBT characters while you're at it? I mean, if they're going to do that.
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Buying all the tickest so nobody else will watch is like shooting yourself in the foot in the hopes that your reflex twitch will punch this guy you don't really like in the face.
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Oh, yeah? Well, where were they on WATCHMEN, then, hu-oh, wait, that had a lesbian character that was sort of dead during the entirety of the movie...
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... But Dr. Manhattan was blue. AND HE WASN'T GAY. They should've protested that to the ground.
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He was the only blue guy, that's why. Maybe if there was another blue guy like him, they would have protested.
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And it's just avatar. That doesn't quite make sense to me. Why not protest every other new release for not having openly LGBT characters while you're at it? I mean, if they're going to do that.
Probally because it become one of the most hyped movies in a while especially during now while tv is having more and more gay couples and trasngender people.
Though Cerebus said it best "This can only be another form of Human Stupidity Syndrome."
People will always complain about something I remember back when the Golden Compass came out local news was talking about a protest outside the movie theater by local Churches.
I also remember when me and my ex went to go see it and got stopped and told not to watch the movie because it was blasphemy.
People will always complain about something especially anything that will bring the media.
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People will always complain about something I remember back when the Golden Compass came out local news was talking about a protest outside the movie theater by local Churches.
That makes sense though, especially because...um...
[spoiler]
Near the end of the book series God dies.
Like...seriously.
God dies.
He's portrayed as this really old and frail guy who can't do anything who...if I remember right, kind of breaks.
Or vanishes, one of the two.
And there's two gay angels if I remember right.
Oh, and it kinda sorta promotes overthrowing the church.
Great book though.
[/spoiler]
Well I heard he was naked. Thats almost gay.
If so then Archem is the most flagrant homosexual I've ever met.
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Yeh but they protesting the movie because of the spirit "Dæmons" or thats what they said while being interviewed. They didn't really mention the book.
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Then they're retarded.
Daemons are the embodiment of the spirit, or as I like to believe, the consciousness.
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Then they're retarded.
Yes exactly.
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He changed his mind after the interview?
Or maybe they're mammals, just not placental mammals. :P
Probably wouldn't matter. Mammals by definition have mammary glands. It's in the name, you know.
EDIT: Okay, Wiki says monotremes have no well-defined nipples. So they could be monotremes.
People will always complain about something I remember back when the Golden Compass came out local news was talking about a protest outside the movie theater by local Churches.
I know I wanted to protest after seeing it. Because it was terrible, not because of the atheist overtones.
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Added it was a blatant smack at Narnia and all it really did was invert it. No real creativity involved.
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The book was much better.
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Probably wouldn't matter. Mammals by definition have mammary glands. It's in the name, you know.
EDIT: Okay, Wiki says monotremes have no well-defined nipples. So they could be monotremes.
I know I wanted to protest after seeing it. Because it was terrible, not because of the atheist overtones.
I agree it was terrible but bad movies are great for making out :D. Though we only saw it because I Am Legend was sold out.
It was either the Golden Compass or some other movie that was so forgettable I don't even remember the name of it.
Hmm come to think of I wasted alot of money and time on terrible movies that year.
......Fred Claus...yeeeeah
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i just got back from seeing this movie and i must say it is better than the hype and critics say it is
it has everything
explosions
senseless death
violence
crazy alien mating scenes
mechs
bows that fire arrows long as a spear
yup this movie had it all
11/10
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As much as I LOVE mechs, I mean... I LOOOOOOOOVE mechs, they are awesome. Mmmm... and mech violence and explosions... not much of the rest... what about plot?
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If critics liked it, it must've had some sort of plot.
Maybe I'll just post this review some shmuck on SA made:
Avatar isn't the best movie of the year, and it's far from the best thing James Cameron has ever done. But it's an exciting fun BIG movie that may be the best 3D movie experience of all time. With a story that smushes Dances With Wolves and Aliens together, there's nothing particularly original here, but what you have is akin to Jimi Hendrix covering Beatles songs. The elements are all familiar, but they are executed with such precision and skill that it's simply a great theater event. Avatar is the kind of movie that you can't wait for DVD. Avatar is the kind of movie that you'll want to experience on a giant screen. And as disgusting as it is for me to say it, this $300 million monstrosity is exactly the kind of film that Hollywood needs to save it's *** from a future of $1 Redbox DVD rental kiosks.
I was a bit leery of the early looks at this movie. We've seen underdog primitive people fighting off superior forces time and time again from Ewoks vs. Stormtroopers to Japanese villagers fighting off bad guys with the help of 7 Samaurai. There was nothing about the story suggested in the previews that made me want to see this movie. And the 15 foot tall Smurf Aliens looked too silly for me to get very excited about. But the guy who brought us Aliens, Terminator 1 and 2, and Titanic had certainly earned enough credit for me to give him the benefit of the doubt. After watching it, I'm impressed.
I have not enjoyed 3D movies of late. As a 4-eyed glasses wearing geek, the experience of wearing 2 sets of shades to watch a movie is not a pleasant one. When I saw Fly Me to The Moon with my kids on IMAX, the double images were so nauseating I had to leave the theater. The 3D experience of Avatar was beautiful and seamless. I never once felt the need to take the glasses off, and didn't feel I was watching anything less than a crystal clear picture. Avatar is a 3D movie that doesn't rely on 3D gimmickry to tell the story. While the 3D is impressive beyond anything I've seen before, it's completely organic and immersive to the film. Above all, it makes the motion capture CGI characters so much more real than the 2D version would be.
Peter Jackson's WETA effects crew is behind the magic here and it's gorgeous. If you thought Gollum and the various beasts in the Lord of Rings movies looked great, you'll be impressed at the texture, depth, and realism of these creations. The eyeballs have a roundness, dimension and LIFE to them that I've never seen before. And the blending of "real" people and the CGI is as seamless as it gets. It's a bit goofy to look at for about 5 minutes when you first see the Na'Vi alien bodies floating in tanks and moving around at the film's beginning, but I had no problem buying into the universe and believing what I was watching shortly after that.
The eye candy is gorgeous. There's a scene where the lead character (a Marine named Jake Sully who remotely "becomes" a host alien body) is walking around with the female lead Neytri in the gorgeous Pandora planet's forest. Luminescient footprints are left behind, plants that make sounds and mushrooms that light up when you touch them, and beautiful sights abound. The 3D makes it as magical for the audience to experience for the first time as it must be for Jake. It reminded me of when the GOlden Ticket holders initially experience the candy garden in Wonka's chocolate factory, only turned up 100%.
The acting is first rate, too. Sam Worthington does a great job in "both" of his roles as human and Na'Vi Jake. Sigourney Weaver is still a commanding presence as a botanist who also becomes a Na'Vi alien. Star Trek's Zoe Saldana in a full motion capture performance is very intriguing as the Na'Vi princess. A supporting "evil corporate dude" role by Giovanni Ribisi is unlike any performance he's given so far, and Stephen Lang, who was so fantastic as Ike Clanton in Tombstone gives a brilliant performance as Colonel Quaritch, the battle scarred badass Marine who is just itching for war.
Avatar isn't a particularly deep movie, and it doesn't have anything to say that you haven't seen in other movies before (the climactic fight seems lifted straight out of a previous Cameron film), but it's likely one of the best moviegoing experiences you'll ever have.
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They gotta lay eggs though. No eggs mentioned in the movie? Then James Cameron still has some 'splainin to do.
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No eggs.
Oh, just go see it already. :p
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Stereoscopic 3D.
Yes. It's badass, now that they've got it all working out in a way that doesn't make everything red and blue.
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One they can do it in a way in where you don't have to put on glasses I'll be stoked.
Although this is a pretty awesome achievement too.
I have yet to check it out though.
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I thought it was great! It was a pretty amazing breakthrough in virtual actors AND 3-D. The 3-D wasn't overplayed, so I'm sure it will work well in 2-D.
And the story was great, too :)
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My Review: It's an overrarted Ferngully clone, except instead of turning into a small guy, he gets turned into a cat thing. The only thing I will stick to with this title (which looks suspiciously like it) would be the one with "The Last Airbender" at the end
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The way they want to protest is just plain stupid. But the reason is even worse.
I doubt people will take them seriously if they complain for such idiocy.
But remember, HSS can strike anyone, anywhere, anytime.
I would like to say that my opinion about protesters is like this
http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&VideoID=34675795