The National Day of Silence

[Drace]

Originally posted by blaze_shinigami
For purposes of creation, homosexuality is wrong.  If a man & another man, or two women, have a monogamous relationship;  with no sperm donors or surrogate mothers, they are giving up their opportunity to create life. They are losing in the primal meaning of life, which is truly to spread your seed. They are killing their future & legacy. They are commiting genetic suicide/homocide. I don't know what that has to do with religion though. So in reality, it is not okay to be gay, but I really believe some people don't have a choice. And what is reality, anyways?

So people who are steriel (sp? and correct word? People with defect reproduction organs) are going against humanity too? People who don't have or want kids too?

[ZeroKirbyX]

Originally posted by White Dwarf

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Originally posted by blaze_shinigami For purposes of creation, homosexuality is wrong.  If a man & another man, or two women, have a monogamous relationship;  with no sperm donors or surrogate mothers, they are giving up their opportunity to create life. They are losing in the primal meaning of life, which is truly to spread your seed. They are killing their future & legacy. They are commiting genetic suicide/homocide. I don't know what that has to do with religion though. So in reality, it is not okay to be gay, but I really believe some people don't have a choice. And what is reality, anyways?

Then again. Not having sex at all would also be doing this. Someone people just don't have children. Yeah fine. They still work, and that. Repoducing isnt the only thing needed for a species to suvive. You also need food and water, and technology. Clothing and buildings etc etc. Which homosexuals would all be helping to make or build when they work. Noe everyone can actualy have children. Should we kill those people cos of it? Or go against them. No, we don't. So we shouldn't be so evil towards homosexuals.

No White, for a species to survive, reproduction is in essence, the only answer. Food, water, tech, shelter, etc, are all needed to prolong the life of an individual, not a species.

[Sephiroth rocks]

 

Oh, I get all that, but human beings didn't need all of those things to start with. I never said they should die/ be killed; I'm saying that homosexuals in certain circumstances are erasing their prescence from the Earth.

Then again as White just said you're doing the same if you're asexual. And asexual ppl are often cristian (e.g. nuns).

[blaze_shinigami]

Originally posted by Drace

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Originally posted by blaze_shinigami For purposes of creation, homosexuality is wrong.  If a man & another man, or two women, have a monogamous relationship;  with no sperm donors or surrogate mothers, they are giving up their opportunity to create life. They are losing in the primal meaning of life, which is truly to spread your seed. They are killing their future & legacy. They are commiting genetic suicide/homocide. I don't know what that has to do with religion though. So in reality, it is not okay to be gay, but I really believe some people don't have a choice. And what is reality, anyways?

So people who are steriel (sp? and correct word? People with defect reproduction organs) are going against humanity too? People who don't have or want kids too?

You're obviously not getting what I said. Sterile people, asexual people, screwed people, gay people, don't have a primal chance. Where did I say "going against humanity"? Quit twisting **** up.

Read my above posts, maybe twice.

[DragonBlaze]

Originally posted by Drace

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Originally posted by DragonBlaze quote: Originally posted by Drace So, the Greek/Hebrew/whatever says that homosexuality is wrong? Did you know that in the time that the bible was wrotent that homosexuality was the most average thing on the planet? It was in Rome where almost all Emperors did it. It was in Greece. It was in the entire place where the bible was wroten. My opinion, the one that added that was a homophic twat. You've lost my respect Dragonblaze, you did. Dude, are you serious? I've studied the bible for many many years, if telling the facts about the bible and my religion will make you loose your respect for me, then fine, I don't want the respect from people who don't want to hear the facts. The bible says homosexuality is wrong, plain and simple. Greek people did not write the bible, it was just the language it was written in. Abraham, his decendents, prophets of Isreal, Jesus's desiples, etc wrote it. And really, the Greeks had their own religeon, they wouldn't write the bible. The greeks were polythiastic and believed in many gods, since part of the bible is written in greek, does that mean that the bible and christianity believes in many gods, no.

The fact might be of the bible, but isn't if you open your bloody eyes. I have a strong HATRED against people who think the bible is, well, THE bible. The Koran says you should slap your wife, is that a fact then? If the bible said that having sex with animal should be done every thursday, would you?

If Jesus and/or God does truly excist, he would tell you not to take the bible literally. The bible is filled with mere guidlines to life. Homosexuality is not evil, it's not wrong.

 

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Dude, are you serious? I've studied the bible for many many years, if telling the facts about the bible and my religion will make you loose your respect for me, then fine, I don't want the respect from people who don't want to hear the facts. The bible says homosexuality is wrong, plain and simple.

I'm not religious, I don't have a bible or a holy book. But if you're telling me that my believes are false, then your saying stuff to me that YOU don't apply. These are MY facts. I respect Christanity and every other religion. I just don't like religious freaks who take it too far by living by a book that's rewritten countless times by countless people who are NOT Jesus, the one who should have the only right to rewrite the bible.

You want me to respect your believes? Then respect mine too.

*Sigh*

I don't say this often, but Drace, you are a moron.

I said the bible is against gays, thats the fact I was refering to. You kept saying it wasn't, as a matter of fact it is. If you're not a religeos person, don't say whats in the bible or whats not in the bible, cuz apparently you don't know. The FACT I was refering to was that the bible was against gays, not that gays are wrong.

I olny brought up that the bible was against homosexuality because someone said god wasn't against it. Again, you wouldn't know anything about this. Yet, you try to bring up some falseness to disprove my claims, when you couldn't, you were just like 'I lost all respect for you'. Thats a very poor reason to loose respect for someone, because they were right about something when you were wrong.

If you ever payed any attention to my earlier posts (which obviously you haven't) you would have realized that I am not agains gays in any way. My policy has always been to live and let live. If someone wants to do something a certain way, let them, they're not affecting me in anyway.

Again, I'm a christian, the bible says homosexuality is wrong, does that mean I have anything against people who are gay? I don't. Personally i'm never gonna be gay, but if someone else wants to be, thats their own choice, and I respect that.

So yeah, unless an issue relates to me dirrectly, I won't be for it or against it. I'm not promoting homosexuality, I'm not denouncing it. I just stated that the bible denouces it in responce to someone elses responce.

So go ahead and piss and moan and loose all respect for me for saying the bible says homosexuality is wrong. As long as you do, I'll continue to think of you as a moron.

 

You want me to respect your believes? Then respect mine too.

I never asked you to respect my beliefs. I never disrespected yorus. I just wanted you to stop saying all this bull **** about a book that you know hardly anything about.  

[White Dwarf]

Originally posted by Drace

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Originally posted by blaze_shinigami For purposes of creation, homosexuality is wrong.  If a man & another man, or two women, have a monogamous relationship;  with no sperm donors or surrogate mothers, they are giving up their opportunity to create life. They are losing in the primal meaning of life, which is truly to spread your seed. They are killing their future & legacy. They are commiting genetic suicide/homocide. I don't know what that has to do with religion though. So in reality, it is not okay to be gay, but I really believe some people don't have a choice. And what is reality, anyways?

So people who are steriel (sp? and correct word? People with defect reproduction organs) are going against humanity too? People who don't have or want kids too?

Sterile, I think. Yeah, what about those people? You can't go against a group of people just because they don't reproduce. And if that, then people should go against you, being as if you have to marry first, then your slowing down the whole system.

[Drace]

In my defence I:

0) Never said it wasn't in the bible. I have not read the bible. I will not read the bible any time soon. I don't care about the bible.
1) You might not have a problem against homosexuals, but then WRITE like you don't have a problem. It looks like you have a problem against them by keeping to refer that the bible finds them EFYL. I don't care, I don't wanna care and I will not care about the bible, the Koran or any other religous boohah book.
2) No I have not noticed that in earlier post you had no problem against homosexuals. See above.
3)  

Again, I'm a christian, the bible says homosexuality is wrong, does that mean I have anything against people who are gay? I don't. Personally i'm never gonna be gay, but if someone else wants to be, thats their own choice, and I respect that.

See 2.
4)  

Drace, you are a moron.

Yes I am. You are one too, thank you very much.

To blaze:

 

You're obviously not getting what I said. Sterile people, asexual people, screwed people, gay people, don't have a primal chance. Where did I say "going against humanity"? Quit twisting **** up.

 

Read my above posts, maybe twice.

They are killing their future & legacy. They are commiting genetic suicide/homocide. So in reality, it is not okay to be gay.

Equals to:

They're going against humankind.

[White Dwarf]

I olny brought up that the bible was against homosexuality because someone said god wasn't against it.

If god was against something, he wouldnt give us free will. That would just be stupid. If god is perfect, he wouldnt be against anything. And he wouldnt stop people from doing things just because he doesnt like it.

[blaze_shinigami]

No, it doesn't. Going against humanity in my opinion would be killing others, the environment, genocide. Just not having children isn't what I see. Some people can't, some just don't want to. But we have them covered; people are fucking right now as I type this.  

Humanity isn't in danger; they're not attacking it. Homosexuals are just living, just as the sterile/asexual people are.  

[neb87]

Originally posted by White Dwarf
I hate you all you christian freaks. Now you know what gays feel like. Hated for the way they feel. Thats worse than bing hated for what you believe. You all suck.

Am a athesist, so um yea...

[ZeroKirbyX]

Okay, this is getting really rediculous. Why are you even bothering to argue? Let people have their own beliefs on homsexuality and leave it be. Jesus christ...

[DragonBlaze]

Originally posted by Drace
In my defence I:

0) Never said it wasn't in the bible. I have not read the bible. I will not read the bible any time soon. I don't care about the bible.
1) You might not have a problem against homosexuals, but then WRITE like you don't have a problem. It looks like you have a problem against them by keeping to refer that the bible finds them EFYL. I don't care, I don't wanna care and I will not care about the bible, the Koran or any other religous boohah book.
2) No I have not noticed that in earlier post you had no problem against homosexuals. See above.
3)  

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Again, I'm a christian, the bible says homosexuality is wrong, does that mean I have anything against people who are gay? I don't. Personally i'm never gonna be gay, but if someone else wants to be, thats their own choice, and I respect that.

See 2.
4)  

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Drace, you are a moron.

Yes I am. You are one too, thank you very much.

0)
 

So, the Greek/Hebrew/whatever says that homosexuality is wrong? Did you know that in the time that the bible was wrotent that homosexuality was the most average thing on the planet? It was in Rome where almost all Emperors did it. It was in Greece. It was in the entire place where the bible was wroten.

Uh-huh. You don't care about the bible, you have not read it, so when I say something about the bible. I don't know what you were trying to do with that responce, but it sounded a lot like you were trying to disprove what I said about the bible.

1) Ok, well from now on, since you don't know how to read a few posts above your own, I guess I'll have to copy everything I say in every post. I've said that a lot of times that I'm not agaist gays, its not my problem if you're too lazy or stupid to actually read the topic before replying  to it.
2) see 1
3) see 1
4) Yes, I know, saying what another sorce says about homosexuality makes me a moron. After all, I wrote the bible, so natuarlly if theres something in there that you don't like, you think of me as a moron. So yes, blame me for being a moron since another book says homosexuality is wrong, blame me for not copying every thing I said in every post and repeating them. Blame me for being a moron because your wrong.

[RPG LORD]

If it's for me, this topic makes people annoy eachother.

[Archem]

We need some gays in China.

[DragonBlaze]

Originally posted by Archem2
We need some gays in China.

Lol, the ultimate population control :p

This reminds me of that one episode in South Park were the crab people tried to make everyone gay.

You can learn a lot from south park.