What IS it?

[Archem]

Originally posted by Meiscool

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Originally posted by drenrin2120 quote: Originally posted by Drace Supposidly to the Christians, God kicked Adam and Eve out of paradise or whatever it's called. Well they're right, not the story of Adam of Eve though, but he kicked us out. He doesn't care how we live of our lives, he wants us to be independant. If he didn't wanted that, there would be no wars, no diseases, no pain at all. But God is a bastard and we should all see that. People kill people. People bring diseases. People are the plague on Earth. Seriously, think about it. If people weren't around, would there be global warming? Mass compilations of 3rd world countries dying of AIDs and other human-born diseases? Pollution? Unnatural extinctions? F*ck no.

That's like saying: If intellegence wasn't around, then the world would be a better place.

That might be a true statement, but it's also a dull and boring one as well. Life, without problems, is worthless.

In other word, to each risk, its own reward.

Reward: The end result of any action, mostly positive.

[Razor]

That's a nice one Warxe. But I prefer the argument of "there is no God, prove that he exists."


Or, you could go by Friedrich Nietzsche's famous statement, and say that God is dead.

Basically,  

God is dead. God remains dead. And we have killed him. How shall we, murderers of all murderers, console ourselves? That which was the holiest and mightiest of all that the world has yet possessed has bled to death under our knives. Who will wipe this blood off us? With what water could we purify ourselves? What festivals of atonement, what sacred games shall we need to invent? Is not the greatness of this deed too great for us? Must we not ourselves become gods simply to be worthy of it?

[charaman]

I've always thought Nietzsche's concept was an interesting one; that humanity has become so jaded and distanced itself from God so much that It no longer can play a part in our lives. It happened through the secularization of religious affairs, such as the heirarchy of the Roman Catholic Church warping the message of a great philosopher. It happened in the blatant hipocrisy of the Jewish faith leaders before them. religion has lost its purpose in mortal hands, killing God's effect in our world.

[EXO Muffin]

What I think is this:

((TIMELINE ))
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Space-time is being compressed.
Space-time folds in on it self and the Big Bang happens.
Cool down.
Radiation cause mutagens, that alter matter into new matter.
Matter mutates into microorganisms and etcetera.
Microorganisms mutate and start evolving.
Evolution.
Something evolves into a human. Oh noes!
Humans get smarter.
Humans create religion.
^--Humans make up things that happen in death, because their      knowledge brings them fear, fear of being nothing when you die. They  were too smart. This disrupted the celestial being of reality, and because they thought of gods, their now were. Intelligence being their own downfall. As a quote...

Originally said by Benjamin Franklin

            Ignorance is bliss and wisdom is folly.

And in my personal religious opinions, here's a timeline of what will probably happen when I die:
((TIMELINE))
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Soul manifests into a ghost.
Ghost is called by higher-ranked ghosts into an afterlife, in which good deeds get better on the class, (like, hotels with first class, second class, etc.)and bad deeds will get worse.

After a long time, depending on my astrological sign, I'll get reincarnated into someone with the same.
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I actually don't like rules of most religions, so I make a conglomerate.(A mixture or fusion)

Sorry if I kicked the topic, but you know...kick-kick can you kick the can-can? If you can then I can, can-can, want to kick the can-can? Can can can can can.....

[Cosmos]

Omg..Just stop the can can thing... Jesus friggin crist..*goes off muttering*

[Emerates]

Think about this, though.....

The universe runs too perfectly to be just an accident.  I mean, gravity keeps us grounded, and keeps the Earth from falling apart into a giant dust ball.  Electrons revolve a nucleus, but never collide.  Atoms come together, make bigger molecules, and eventually become objects or fluids.  Fluids flow between objects, without destroying all the other particles.  Planets revolve around the sun without plummeting into it.  Moons do the same with the planets they're attached to.  And everything eventually dies.  All those particles break apart and join up with the surrounding environment, thus repeating the cycle over and over again.

To me, that sounds a bit complex for a bunch of matter and energy spontaneously erupting.  When an atom bomb goes off, does it make things come together to make new things?  Or does it just destroy everything in its blast radius?  And if the Big Bang theory is correct, where did all the matter and stuff come from?  If people suggest that it was just always there, then they may need to rethink their hypothesis before they say they've got the answers to the universe.

[Tomi]

Originally posted by Emerates
Electrons revolve a nucleus, but never collide.

Err, yes they do. Unless you worded that wrong.  Either way, it supports your point.

[charaman]

Originally posted by Emerates
Think about this, though.....

The universe runs too perfectly to be just an accident.  I mean, gravity keeps us grounded, and keeps the Earth from falling apart into a giant dust ball.  Electrons revolve a nucleus, but never collide.  Atoms come together, make bigger molecules, and eventually become objects or fluids.  Fluids flow between objects, without destroying all the other particles.  Planets revolve around the sun without plummeting into it.  Moons do the same with the planets they're attached to.  And everything eventually dies.  All those particles break apart and join up with the surrounding environment, thus repeating the cycle over and over again.

To me, that sounds a bit complex for a bunch of matter and energy spontaneously erupting.  When an atom bomb goes off, does it make things come together to make new things?  Or does it just destroy everything in its blast radius?  And if the Big Bang theory is correct, where did all the matter and stuff come from?  If people suggest that it was just always there, then they may need to rethink their hypothesis before they say they've got the answers to the universe.

Thats the medieval attitude. If you don't understand it, attach a supernatural signifigance to it. I'm not saying I disagree or agree, I'm just saying your logic is really not logic at all.

[Meiscool-2]

Emerates's Logic < Duh.

[EXO Muffin]

Well, yeah. Those are pretty weird questions, and I don't really have answers, but, I mean...that's why so many people want to know the meaning of life. I guess I don't, though, because that knowledge would not be comprehendable, and I wouldn't be able to handle it. Best to wonder than to know everything, because that just makes life pretty freakin' boring. :p

[charaman]

Originally posted by EXO Muffin
Well, yeah. Those are pretty weird questions, and I don't really have answers, but, I mean...that's why so many people want to know the meaning of life. I guess I don't, though, because that knowledge would not be comprehendable, and I wouldn't be able to handle it. Best to wonder than to know everything, because that just makes life pretty freakin' boring. :p

You should see the movie Pi.

[MrMister]

Originally posted by charaman

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Originally posted by EXO Muffin Well, yeah. Those are pretty weird questions, and I don't really have answers, but, I mean...that's why so many people want to know the meaning of life. I guess I don't, though, because that knowledge would not be comprehendable, and I wouldn't be able to handle it. Best to wonder than to know everything, because that just makes life pretty freakin' boring. :p

You should see the movie Pi.

Pi was great, but watch Primer. That'll **** you up with out the.. boringness. Pi had a really great ending though.. argh, thinking about Pi has given me a headache.. which means I'll have to try an old family remedy! POWDERED BABIES!

[MrMister]

DELETE POST PLX RIGHT NOW.
That is LAME of you, and you totally didn't get that film. He was trying to find the true name of God, you dickfuck.

[Emerates]

According to science, matter does not just spontaneously appear.  Therefore, I see it as there had to be something or someone to make all that matter and energy in the beginning anyways.  That's just my perspective on things.

[EXO Muffin]

You didn't have to be that harsh, but, you're right. I didn't get it at all. Sorry if I incorrectly stated things. (I remember that he was trying to find the name of God,now,thanks for helping me remember, but it was contexted in a way that's hard to decifer,at least for me.) I don't remember too well, and I might have been watching a different movie. The movie doesn't really tell you what's going on. Something about forbidden knowledge and a 214-decimal sequence was involved. If I got the ending wrong, then, yeah. It's the wrong movie.


Also, if it's about the meaning of life and God, then why is it called,"Pi?" Is it because knowing Pi is to know the name of God? Maybe it's comparing the unknown knowledge of the name of God with the infinity of Pi. Hmm...time to drill into my head, now!

EDIT!:I know now, I didn't pay attention that much,but thanks to my good friend, Wikipedia, I know.