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Offline karlc

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« Reply #75 on: August 17, 2006, 06:38:40 PM »
actually im thinking squares best series are
FM
Dquest
Kingdom hearts
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« Reply #76 on: August 17, 2006, 07:12:24 PM »
FM? Dragon Quest was Enix, not Square. That means its not Squares best, but Enix's best with the royalties and copyrights under SquareEinx. As for KH, its popular, but it was a money game. They could have easily made that game without FF characters and had it be just as serious, but they knew Disney only wouldn't sell, so they whored of FF chars to get the money.
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« Reply #77 on: August 17, 2006, 07:47:01 PM »
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i think cloud and tifa should make babies
same with link and zelda

yeah and metal gear for ps was fun but it became stupid as snake became a grandpa


Now if you payed attention to the games and news on MGS4, you would've know why.

As you know (if not, your brain is to retarded to play any MGS ever again) Solid Snake, along with Liquid Snake, are clones of Big Boss.

But, they aren't perfect. True, they look like the perfect fighting machines and soldiers, but they have a lot of flaws. One for Snake being rapid age. The cells of his body have a rapid aging producere, thus making him old in the fourth MGS game.

Also, you should remind that Snake was around BEFORE MGS1, since the "Les Enfants Terribles" project from 1972. Seeing as MGS1 takes place in 2005 and MGS2 in 2007 and 2009 (2007 being the Tanker episode; 2009 being the Big Shell episode), this makes Solid Snake 37 á 38 at the end of MGS2. Seeing as MGS4 will take place further in the future (In my opinion, probably somewhere around 2015, making Snake 43 á 44) and with the rapid aging, it seems plausible for me.

You're an awesome machine for knowing that much.
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FM? Dragon Quest was Enix, not Square. That means its not Squares best, but Enix's best with the royalties and copyrights under SquareEinx. As for KH, its popular, but it was a money game. They could have easily made that game without FF characters and had it be just as serious, but they knew Disney only wouldn't sell, so they whored of FF chars to get the money.

I can agree with this.
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« Reply #78 on: August 17, 2006, 07:53:53 PM »
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Shut up you ignorant French-Canadian Nazi wannabee. I bet you don't like it because the story is to heavy for you. Go play mindless storyless games you retard! Go play Super Mario Bros. or something and don't come near Metal Gear Solid EVER AGAIN!


First, Hindenburg isn't Nazi. Second, the reason I don't like it is because it isn't the kind of game I like to play, not because of the story. Actually, story isn't always important for me. Some games' story sucks, but are still fun to play. For exemple, Link's awakening's story isn't that great... it actually sucks, in my opinion... ( for those who don't know, you're in a dream and your goal is to wake up by bringing 8 instrument to awake the Wind Fish ) but I still like it. And, some games has great storyline, but isn't fun to play at all... Yes, MGS is a good game, probably has a good storylin, just not the kind of game I like.

Anyways...
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« Reply #79 on: August 17, 2006, 08:18:27 PM »
Where's the love for StarOcean... I can't be the only fan here...

Fayt would win in a fight against Cloud and Link.

Claude on the other hand... Would get his whiney little behind kicked.
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« Reply #80 on: August 17, 2006, 08:41:16 PM »
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Where's the love for StarOcean... I can't be the only fan here...

Fayt would win in a fight against Cloud and Link.

Claude on the other hand... Would get his whiney little behind kicked.


I seriusly doubt that Fayt, a 19 year old game geek can defeat a Jenova-cloned soldier or the hero of time/wind whatever.
(Kind of spoiling but Fayt is kind of weerd after that little incident but I still doubt it)

But of course it all depends on what games you are talking about...
There are sooo many LoZ games and the only conected ones(that I can think of for the monent) is Ocarina of time and majoras mask and Oracle of seasons and Oracle of Time so there are many different Links.(Oh and Super Smash too)

And Clouds fighting is not that good in FF7, kinda stiff... And stuff.
But in KH he is alot of cooler but still not that great, since KHII hasnīt been released here  I donīt know what he is like there.
And I havnīt seen him in FFT, but in Squares cute little movie Advent Children where Cloud got 6 swords that he combine...Yeah itīs like a Matrix/DragonBall/or whatever animee. Pretty much über if I may say so myself.

So if you decide to have a battle between AC Cloud and any young Link on our Earth then Iīd say that Cloud would win... Just pointing it out.

But ZKX would woop their asses!
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« Reply #81 on: August 17, 2006, 08:49:27 PM »
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Where's the love for StarOcean... I can't be the only fan here...

Fayt would win in a fight against Cloud and Link.

Claude on the other hand... Would get his whiney little behind kicked.


I seriusly doubt that Fayt, a 19 year old game geek can defeat a Jenova-cloned soldier or the hero of time/wind whatever.
(Kind of spoiling but Fayt is kind of weerd after that little incident but I still doubt it)

But of course it all depends on what games you are talking about...
There are sooo many LoZ games and the only conected ones(that I can think of for the monent) is Ocarina of time and majoras mask and Oracle of seasons and Oracle of Time so there are many different Links.(Oh and Super Smash too)

And Clouds fighting is not that good in FF7, kinda stiff... And stuff.
But in KH he is alot of cooler but still not that great, since KHII hasnīt been released here  I donīt know what he is like there.
And I havnīt seen him in FFT, but in Squares cute little movie Advent Children where Cloud got 6 swords that he combine...Yeah itīs like a Matrix/DragonBall/or whatever animee. Pretty much über if I may say so myself.

So if you decide to have a battle between AC Cloud and any young Link on our Earth then Iīd say that Cloud would win... Just pointing it out.

But ZKX would woop their asses!


I swear to god I love yeh man. Like internet family XD

But actually, alot of people believe that OoT, MM and WW were all connected. Except WW's Link is the bloodline descendant of OoT Link. Hell, in WW's Master Sword room there are stained glass windows in the shapes of the 6 sages. There are also other theories like the tree people (forget the names) are the kokiri and the Rito clan are genetically related to Zoras.
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« Reply #82 on: August 17, 2006, 08:55:28 PM »
Link=Epona
                              }Cloud
Cloud=Motorcycle
                                   }Link
Link=Biggoron Sword
                                    }Cloud
Cloud=Ultima Weapon
                                     }cloud
Link=Kokori Sword
                                  }Link
Cloud=Buster Sword
                                 }Link
Link=Master Sword
                               }Link
Cloud=Ragnarok
                             }Cloud
Link=Picori Blade
                                }Cloud
Cloud=Any Weapon
                                }Cloud
Link=Bow
                      }Cloud
Cloud=All Out
                      }Link
Link=All Out


Link Vs. Bahamut
Link has hookshot and wind Waker Can stop time then hook onto it's horn and kill it. If Link can defeat Ganondorf's Final form then he can defeat bahamut.

Link W/ Magic and everything Vs. Cloud W/ Magic and everything
Link's Sword can easily chop Cloud in half before he can hit Link.
Link's Magic dominates Clouds Magic.
Link.

Link Only Master Sword Vs. Cloud Only Buster Sword
Link.

Link earned all his swords, Cloud just stole 'em.

Link's my favorite.

P.S. YAY Snake!
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« Reply #83 on: August 17, 2006, 10:18:08 PM »
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Fanboy stuff.



XD. Sorry, your logic made me laugh.
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« Reply #84 on: August 17, 2006, 10:22:35 PM »
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If Link can defeat Ganondorf's Final form then he can defeat bahamut.


Uhm... not sure for Bahamut, but he sure can't defeat Bahamut Zero.
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« Reply #85 on: August 17, 2006, 11:19:47 PM »
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If Link can defeat Ganondorf's Final form then he can defeat bahamut.


Uhm... not sure for Bahamut, but he sure can't defeat Bahamut Zero.


Mirror Shield + Magic Armor + Nayru's Love + Master Sword = Invincibilty, reflcect attacks, and power
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« Reply #86 on: August 17, 2006, 11:25:48 PM »
Not sure Mirror Shield is strong enough to reflect Bahamut Zero's Mega Flare or whatever it is called, though. And I don't remember any Magic Armor... and forgot what Nayru's Love do... and Link can't reach Bahamut Zero.
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« Reply #87 on: August 17, 2006, 11:34:37 PM »
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Not sure Mirror Shield is strong enough to reflect Bahamut Zero's Mega Flare or whatever it is called, though. And I don't remember any Magic Armor... and forgot what Nayru's Love do... and Link can't reach Bahamut Zero.


Magic Armor = Bonus mini quest item from WW. It makes you invincible.  Nayrus Love is a magic shield. Mirror shield can reflect anything. Link just activates his two shields, absorbs Bahamuts attack with mirror shield, shoots it back at Bahamut, knowns him down, and drives the Master Sword into Bahamut. Link gets the win.
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« Reply #88 on: August 17, 2006, 11:43:01 PM »
Ah, maybe Bahamut, but Bahamut Zero is huge, far bigger than Neo Bahamut, who is bigger than Bahamut, and attack from the space and cause some kind of big explosion, wich is why I'm not sure the Mirror Shield can reflect it. Even if it does, the reflect probably won't return to him or bring him down. If Link can beat Bahamut Zero, than maybe he'll win against Cloud... just maybe.
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« Reply #89 on: August 17, 2006, 11:47:21 PM »
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Ah, maybe Bahamut, but Bahamut Zero is huge, far bigger than Neo Bahamut, who is bigger than Bahamut, and attack from the space and cause some kind of big explosion, wich is why I'm not sure the Mirror Shield can reflect it. Even if it does, the reflect probably won't return to him or bring him down. If Link can beat Bahamut Zero, than maybe he'll win against Cloud... just maybe.


Mirror shield can reflect anything. Besides, he'd still have the Magic Armor. And the only reason to consider bringing Bahamut into this topic is if you say Cloud summons him, meaning Bahamut would only attack once, and Links magic shield would protect him, allowing Link to attack Cloud whilst he was recooperating from the summon.
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